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breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads が 投稿

I'm wondering if we can maybe re-evaluate what we post from RPW. This sub is primarily a satire sub, so the majority of what we do is make fun of ideas and postings. When someone is posting something about treating others like shit, I'm all in. But I see posts from RPW where the OP is legitimately hurting and confused, and they haven't done anything wrong. We may consider them misguided or disagree with how they approach their relationship, but they don't deserve to have their post linked to a sub for the intent purpose of making fun of it. It's like adding insult to injury and I think those posts provide a legitimate argument for those who dislike TBP.

Posts where the poster is being horrible to others, or replies that are absurdly bitchy or bad advice should be free game. Let's post and make fun of things that are damaging, not people who are feeling damaged by bad ideas.

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[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

Can you give specific examples?

RPW tries to enable and justify the abuse and victim blame that an OP is just not being subhuman enough. I believe RPW mocking is about that, not about mocking the victim.

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

There's currently a post about a RPW who was dumped by her bf for being too submissive. And it's the only one currently up, but it's definitely not the only post that I've seen along that vein.

[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

I mean examples of the victim being mocked rather than RPW ideology

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

So like I said it in my reply to the other poster, because this is a satire sub (as we've repeatedly said) posting something here implies that it should be made fun of. If this were a discussion sub, that would be different. Posting here would just mean it was something to be discussed. But that's not what we are. We exist to make fun of ideas and situations that are harmful. I realize that the idea behind that post (and other posts like them) are to show how damaging those ideas can be to relationships. But posting the original post here says, "This post deserves to be made fun of." It means that because we have repeatedly said that's what it means. "We're not opposition to RP, we make fun of it." "We're not here to argue about RP, we're a satire sub." We've been emphatic about it. That means that when a poster sees their post on our sub, they can reasonably assume that we mean to make fun of their post.

I would be okay with creating a "discussion", or "serious" tag that means that the post is for discussion only and not a mockery of the poster. But as of now, what we've told the rest of reddit is that we mock RP. And that's it.

[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

That means that when a poster sees their post on our sub, they can reasonably assume that we mean to make fun of their post.

I agree it's a reasonable initial assumption but it can also be easily verified whether it's true by reading the comments to that post.

[–]dundundundoneenjoy the recliner 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

the top comment is pretty mean, IMO (along with a few others). if anyone said that to me after i was unexpectedly dumped, i'd feel really hurt.

[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I see. Very heavily upvoted too so we probably need some guidelines about these things. I don't want to say we should stop posting about RPW altogether though.

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I definitely don't think we need to stop posting from RPW all together! The place is a gold mine for examples of prime, bitchy, RP related content. I would prefer that we be aware of how our posts might affect innocent people though. Even if the intent wasn't to harm someone, we should think about how we would feel coming across that.

[–]murloclove 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably my comment.

I see it that way, they leash out on others (where the SO turned redpill) how she didn't see how unhappy her boyfriend was. If you can be mean to others, you might expect that it might come around to bite you in the butt.

And I didn't attack her, I brought up how there are guys out there (contrary to TRP believes) who WANT an equal partner and doesn't just want a show put up for them.

[–]wonderingwhether54prime minister of the pussy cabal 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

And they are cruel to women who have jobs, do not work from home, are not sahm, are feminists ( they mock us). I don't understand why we are trying to treat them with kid gloves, they are fucking terrible to women.

[–]dundundundoneenjoy the recliner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's not everyone; just the RPW who post about trying hard in their relationships and being blindsided by failure (or similar situations). it's cruel to mock them, especially if you've ever experienced something similar in your own life. i don't know that i even think discussing it is bad, but reacting to someone genuinely hurting and confused with comments amounting to 'lol duh what did you expect dummy' seems really unnecessary.

[–]wonderingwhether54prime minister of the pussy cabal 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like that post. And most of the comments were about feeling bad for her anyway, not very mocking. But, meh, her attitude is stupid and their desire to force every women into a submissive cookie cutter box is evil. It is. it is just as hurtful as trp and they are just as defensive when you challenge them. I thick we are ok to mock them. They are not victims.

[–]captainspazzmuffin 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have a feeling this might be about my post. In my defense, I didn't make it to make fun of the OP. I made it to give an example of how the redpill can ruin relationships. I think it's important for people to see those examples, especially lurkers on the fence.

[–]wonderingwhether54prime minister of the pussy cabal 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

and people like me.

[–]FailedTech 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the fact she didn't really love him ruined their relationship...

But that is my 2 Cents

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand the motivation and the thought is legitimate. But if the point of this sub is expressly to make fun of things, then you can't post something here without insinuating that it deserves to be made fun of. And that could potentially be hurtful to someone. You're not the only one who has posted things like this and they always make me uncomfortable. If we were simply a discussion sub, that would be one thing. But we have repeatedly stated that we're a satire sub.

[–]dundundundoneenjoy the recliner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

i agree; i sort of thought that recent thread crossed the line a little (or rather, some of the responses to it did). i don't often disagree with commenters here, but some of those comments seemed cruel.

[–]wonderingwhether54prime minister of the pussy cabal 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am sorry but I disagree. Their ideas are just as harmful as trp's ( if not more so) and they are more than capable of being bitches. Sorry, we cannot have glove hands for them because they are women.

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I 100% agree with you. We shouldn't handle them with kid gloves because they are women. Their ideas ARE just as harmful as trps. But when a woman posts "I just got dumped", I don't think that kind of post is something we need to jump on. That woman is a real person who is going through something difficult. This isn't about her being a woman, it's about her being a person and respecting the fact that she's probably in pain right now. We don't need to add to that.

Now if she's posting something along the lines of, "Women are shit for not being submissive. If more women were like me, then my boyfriend wouldn't have dumped me." That's a post that I'd be more than happy to make fun of. But she didn't hurt anyone and she's not blaming others for her break up or making broad statements about how others should behave. Those are the things that we mock about RP... If a post lacks those things, then we're just bullying someone for having a different preference for a relationship structure.