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Meta: posting from RPW (self.TheBluePill)

breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads が 投稿

I'm wondering if we can maybe re-evaluate what we post from RPW. This sub is primarily a satire sub, so the majority of what we do is make fun of ideas and postings. When someone is posting something about treating others like shit, I'm all in. But I see posts from RPW where the OP is legitimately hurting and confused, and they haven't done anything wrong. We may consider them misguided or disagree with how they approach their relationship, but they don't deserve to have their post linked to a sub for the intent purpose of making fun of it. It's like adding insult to injury and I think those posts provide a legitimate argument for those who dislike TBP.

Posts where the poster is being horrible to others, or replies that are absurdly bitchy or bad advice should be free game. Let's post and make fun of things that are damaging, not people who are feeling damaged by bad ideas.

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[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Can you give specific examples?

RPW tries to enable and justify the abuse and victim blame that an OP is just not being subhuman enough. I believe RPW mocking is about that, not about mocking the victim.

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

There's currently a post about a RPW who was dumped by her bf for being too submissive. And it's the only one currently up, but it's definitely not the only post that I've seen along that vein.

[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I mean examples of the victim being mocked rather than RPW ideology

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

So like I said it in my reply to the other poster, because this is a satire sub (as we've repeatedly said) posting something here implies that it should be made fun of. If this were a discussion sub, that would be different. Posting here would just mean it was something to be discussed. But that's not what we are. We exist to make fun of ideas and situations that are harmful. I realize that the idea behind that post (and other posts like them) are to show how damaging those ideas can be to relationships. But posting the original post here says, "This post deserves to be made fun of." It means that because we have repeatedly said that's what it means. "We're not opposition to RP, we make fun of it." "We're not here to argue about RP, we're a satire sub." We've been emphatic about it. That means that when a poster sees their post on our sub, they can reasonably assume that we mean to make fun of their post.

I would be okay with creating a "discussion", or "serious" tag that means that the post is for discussion only and not a mockery of the poster. But as of now, what we've told the rest of reddit is that we mock RP. And that's it.

[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That means that when a poster sees their post on our sub, they can reasonably assume that we mean to make fun of their post.

I agree it's a reasonable initial assumption but it can also be easily verified whether it's true by reading the comments to that post.

[–]dundundundoneenjoy the recliner 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

the top comment is pretty mean, IMO (along with a few others). if anyone said that to me after i was unexpectedly dumped, i'd feel really hurt.

[–]EsailijaSocial Justice Fury Warrior 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I see. Very heavily upvoted too so we probably need some guidelines about these things. I don't want to say we should stop posting about RPW altogether though.

[–]murloclove 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably my comment.

I see it that way, they leash out on others (where the SO turned redpill) how she didn't see how unhappy her boyfriend was. If you can be mean to others, you might expect that it might come around to bite you in the butt.

And I didn't attack her, I brought up how there are guys out there (contrary to TRP believes) who WANT an equal partner and doesn't just want a show put up for them.

[–]captainspazzmuffin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have a feeling this might be about my post. In my defense, I didn't make it to make fun of the OP. I made it to give an example of how the redpill can ruin relationships. I think it's important for people to see those examples, especially lurkers on the fence.

[–]breadfollowsmeirrelevant gonads[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand the motivation and the thought is legitimate. But if the point of this sub is expressly to make fun of things, then you can't post something here without insinuating that it deserves to be made fun of. And that could potentially be hurtful to someone. You're not the only one who has posted things like this and they always make me uncomfortable. If we were simply a discussion sub, that would be one thing. But we have repeatedly stated that we're a satire sub.

[–]dundundundoneenjoy the recliner -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

i agree; i sort of thought that recent thread crossed the line a little (or rather, some of the responses to it did). i don't often disagree with commenters here, but some of those comments seemed cruel.