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Meister Eckhart and sunyata (self.zen)
Pistaf が 1年前 投稿
I recently picked up a copy of Mysticism: Christian and Buddhist by DT Suzuki. This Meister Eckhart guy is a focus of it and he's fascinating.
While I subsisted in the ground, in the bottom, in the river and fount of Godhead, no one asked me where I was going or what I was doing: there was no one to ask me. When I was flowing all creatures spake God. If I am asked, Brother Eckhart, when went ye out of your house? Then I must have been in. Even so do all creatures speak God. And why do they not speak the Godhead? Everything in the Godhead is one, and of that there is nothing to be said. God works, the Godhead does no work, there is nothing to do; in it is no activity. It never envisaged any work. God and Godhead are as different as active and inactive. On my return to God, where I am formless, my breaking through will be far nobler than my emanation. I alone take all creatures out of their sense into my mind and make them one in me. When I go back into the ground, into the depths, into the well-spring of the Godhead, no one will ask me whence I came or whither I went. No one missed me: God passes away.
[–]smellephantpseudo-emanci-pants 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (12子コメント)
Good stuff! It should not be surprising that this understanding does not respect religious boundaries. Letting go is letting go. Of course it is only a matter of time before someone accuses us of being filthy perennialists.
[–]JayWalken 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (1子コメント)
Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.
- Meister Eckhart
[–]Pistaf[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (9子コメント)
Gotcha! Take this perennialist scum away, boys!
:)
I absolutely love seeing what we might think of as eastern thought popping up in western culture without any obvious influence from the east. This isn't Buddhist or Christian or anything else. No one has a monopoly on wisdom.
[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (8子コメント)
For what it's worth, I think there's only one enlightenment that could be attained outside of intellectual understanding.
[–]Pistaf[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (7子コメント)
What enlightenment is that?
[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (6子コメント)
The one outside of intellectual understanding.
[–]Pistaf[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (5子コメント)
And what is enlightenment?
[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1年前 (4子コメント)
Outside of intellectual understanding.
[–]Pistaf[S] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (3子コメント)
This feels like an Abbott and Costello bit.
[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (1子コメント)
I laughed a lot at my last response.
[–]s0undscap3s 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (0子コメント)
Proud of you, young Oat. (:
[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1年前 (0子コメント)
Radical!
[–]singlefingerlaughing 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (0子コメント)
I alone take all creatures out of their sense into my mind and make them one in me.
This made me feel like there is FIRE IN MY SHOES!
[–]5baserush 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (4子コメント)
I'm not really understanding this. Does someone care to elucidate this? I don't see the connection to sunyata.
[–]Pistaf[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (3子コメント)
I don't know that I could do it any justice. Please allow me to quote DT Suzuki which may clarify things:
With him God is still a something as long as there is any trace of movement or work or of doing something. When we come to the Godhead, we for the first time find that it is the unmoved, a nothing where there is no path (apada) to reach. It is absolute nothingness; therefore it is the ground of being from where all beings come.
And later
What would Christians think of "the divine core of pure (or absolute) stillness," or of "the simple core which is the still desert onto which no distinctions ever creep"? Eckart is in perfect accord with the Buddhist doctrine of śūnyatā, when he advances the notion of Godhead as "pure nothingness" (ein bloss niht).
[–]5baserush 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (2子コメント)
That was deep. And clarifying. Looks like I have a new book to check out, thanks.
[–]Pistaf[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (1子コメント)
It's pretty good so far! Also it is $0.99 for the kindle. Or it's infinitely cheaper here
[–]5baserush 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (0子コメント)
Oo thanks for the link
[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1年前 (1子コメント)
sounds like a good description of a DMT trip.
[–]s0undscap3s 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1年前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, I don't see how this has to do with Zen and I'm don't get the passage. Probably a good thing.
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