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Winklevoss Bitcoin Exchange Gemini Approved for Launch in New York (coindesk.com)

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[–]lubechow 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Welp, here's to hoping it doesn't suck.

Wink it up boys

[–]MaxKK 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can someone make a few screenshots of the UI?

[–]romerun 6ポイント7ポイント  (11子コメント)

what are benefits over existing exchanges ?

[–]Egon_1 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

As a regulated exchange, it may attract more institutionalized global investors that don't feel comfortable with unregulated Asian exchanges.

[–]winky_pop 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's right -- Gemini Trust Company, LLC, a New York state limited liability trust company, which makes us a fiduciary, and allows us to accept both individual and institutional customers under New York Banking Law (unlike the BitLicense, which does not convey such fiduciary powers).

[–]smidge 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well here's to hoping those individuals and institutions start to accumulate BTC really fucking fast once the bell rings on Thursday.

[–]Louie2001912 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sounds legit. Good luck gentleman.

[–]winky_pop 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you!

[–]JohnStoltz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thank you for working with the old school, regulated side of all this shit that we fringe lunatics are totally allergic to. Not being /s either, i'm for all of it. The more the merrier. It's like Delmar said in O Brother after getting baptized, "C'mon in, boys. The water is fine."

[–]Chakra_Scientist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you make any comments if you will be filing a new S-1A including details of Gemini Exchange in it? Thanks

[–]BitChick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just curious, but is the Gemini exchange something that needed to be opened before the ETF is allowed to be launched? As great as the exchange is, I think the ETF is what is really going to be a game changer for BTC. I know that there might be rules as to why no comment can be made on this.

[–]laundrevity[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why no service to IL?

[–]ItsAboutSharing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, is this an actual exchange? I thought this was more of a futures type "exchange", meaning you can't take delivery of the BTC, they "hold" them for you. edit - Ah, this actually is an exchange, probably to speed up the ETF thing...

[–]AgrajagPrime 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

Happening level: It's

[–]jtos3 10ポイント11ポイント  (18子コメント)

https://blog.gemini.com/and-were-live/

We are excited to announce that Gemini has opened it’s doors to both individual and institutional customers. We have begun sending out invite codes so you can create and fund your account in preparation for trading, which officially begins on Thursday, October 8th at 9:30 AM EDT. If you haven’t done so already, you can request an invite code by clicking “Get Early Access” on the Gemini homepage.

https://blog.gemini.com/geminis-area-of-operation/

Gemini is available and open for trading in the following states:

California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Washington D.C., Wyoming.

[–]amerinsyd 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

Why is Texas not on that list? It's the best state in the US of A

[–]winky_pop 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

We love Texas too! Texas requires us to file as an Money Transmitter (MT) -- something we couldn't do before receiving our Certificate of Authorization from the NYSDFS. But don't worry, we are working hard to open in Texas very soon! Thanks for asking.

[–]IGETSHIVERSWHENIP 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can have a silencer mailed to my house in Texas, but can't use Gemini yet. Lol

[–]vocatus 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

What about Arizona?? :(

[–]winky_pop 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not yet -- but we are working to serve you and your state, please standy...

[–]todu 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Any plans on allowing users from other countries than the USA? Will users from Sweden be able to use your exchange?

[–]winky_pop 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely -- are looking at expanding our area of operation globally and will announce accordingly on our blog as things develop.

[–]calaber24p 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Only about half the states to go. Anyone know if they are applied for the other states, or the other states just dont have the regulation infrastructure at this point in time?

[–]winky_pop 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes -- we are working on being operational in all states. Some will be quicker than others, but now that we have our Certificate of Authorization from the NYSDFS we anticipate rapid expansion of our area of operation. We appreciate your patience -- please stay tuned...

[–]Kibubik 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nice work, guys. Despite the decreased price and the controversy in the Bitcoin world of late, you appear to have kept an unwavering commitment to Bitcoin.

[–]winky_pop 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Spartans hold! This isn't a month to month thing, its going to take years to build the infrastructure necessary to unleash the promise of Bitcoin -- we are in it for the long haul.

[–]Sexy_Saffron 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Woooooo! Got my early access invitation! :)

[–]linksss 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been waiting for this moment for all my lifeeeeee

[–]BaurusdB 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was unexpected.

[–]the_real_obola 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

So what is so special about launching a new exchange platform? We have plenty of them on the market, so what is so innovative for bitcoin this Gemini ? Ok they start in NY, they apply for license and what?

[–]hellyeahent 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

do u feel safe with okcoin ? (answer hell no) do u feel safe with bitfinex ? (answer dunno, but they got hacked and lost some coins, fortunately they could cover it ) do u feel safe with other exchanges which arent regulated and do not show us real time proof our coins are safe ?

I feel safe with them because they are under regulations so can sue them if they got hacked/will lose my coins

[–]solled 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same with Coinbase and itBit. Both highly regulated.

[–]the_real_obola -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Personally right now I don't use any of exchanges because I'm paid 100% in BTC. But back in time 10-12 months ago I was buying only from exchanges. 5 min using them. Enter - buy - transfer coins to my wallet - close the exchange - bye. Never give the opportunity to be hacked, robbed, scammed.
Even then I was buying BTC with my grandma details :)
But yes people are greedy and use the exchanges like their personal wallets or stay with coins in there waiting to sell them to make some bunch of other shity fiat. But those they get what they expect: shit.
Many of the exchanges are not created to help you to get in the bitcoin train... but to make them rich. If you are smart enough you can find your way do not be trapped into their game.

[–]BeardMilk 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

So your opinion of an exchange like Gemini is based 100% on your incredibly uncommon personal situation and you seriously cannot imagine any reason for the other 99.999% of the world to have a use for it? How about your USD deposits being covered by FDIC insurance in case of theft?

[–]the_real_obola -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why we have to go back always to some "insurance" from a gov? We are so weak that we can't protect ourselves? Don't you think that an "insurance" like that is just a form of covering a debt and at the end you are the one paying that debt in form of taxes.

[–]EdsterGB[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

It might be a stepping stone to the ETF approval.

[–]calaber24p 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Two weeks 3 days

[–]winky_pop 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If by 2 weeks you mean 3 days ;-)

[–]Introshine 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good news! We must be going to $198 within hours.

Kidding though... I hope - congrats /u/winky_pop and co.

[–]rePAN6517 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ooo some of that paperwork the boys filed got approved

[–]LaCanner 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

And Washington State?

[–]winky_pop 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Working on it, please stay tuned!

[–]bitcoingfevermania 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyone knows what's with the name? What's "Gemini"?

[–]EdsterGB[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're twins. Didn't you notice? ;¬p

[–]jaydoors 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very funny

[–]JCWilliams56 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What if I live in NJ but work in NY? Do you need to be a NY resident?

[–]winky_pop 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do not need to be a NY resident -- we currently support 26 states and Washington D.C. W/r/t to NJ, we are working to support this your state, please stay tuned!

[–]fpvhawk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

$400, Big Boys only exchange

[–]bitdoggy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In how many countries is Gemini exaclty available? 1/2?

[–]Sherlockcoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

to the M.O.O.N...

paging /u/tothemoonguy

[–]Tomhinueber 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn no Nevada? I really want to start trading

[–]nroose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems pretty amazing to have an article largely about 2 former Olympians and not mention the Olympics or their sport!

[–]Drunkenaardvark 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Per the Coinbase article: Will 'charge a 25 basis point fee to both buyers and sellers on each transaction.'

How does this fee compare to what the existing exchanges are charging?

[–]Buckyboycoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It’s official: the Winklevoss twins are ready to bring bitcoin to Wall Street. The Harvard-educated entrepreneurs — perhaps most famous for tangling in court with Mark Zuckerberg over the question of who founded Facebook — have finally won approval from New York regulators for their Gemini Trust to open a bitcoin exchange.

[–]Buckyboycoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://nypost.com/2015/10/05/winklevoss-twins-bitcoin-exchange-gets-state-ok/

[–]bitterdull 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

25 basis point commissions for both makers and takers. :-(

[–]TruValueCapital 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's available in Florida. Woohoo! Coinbase is not and many other BTC trading plat forms are not. Winkle Boys we hope its good. Wink Wink!

[–]Buckyboycoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

well looking real time not much trust in this. 238 real time now

[–]Buckyboycoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

well looking real time not much trust in this. 238 real time now

[–]alexgorale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How many times is this going to happen?

I feel like every other week they are approved or moving forward. It seems more like they're spinning the (speculative) obstacles they're encountering for the media.

[–]mustyoshi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh, opens the day after my next paycheck.

[–]MemoryDealers 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

With the attention the Winklevoss twins have, it would be nice if they would question the reason they even need to ask for permission from strangers at all.

[–]Richy_T 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same answer it always is: Nice not to have the men with guns showing up at your door.

[–]mastermind1228 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

To The Mars!!! ┗(°0°)┛

[–]linksss -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been waiting for this moment all my lifeeeeee

[–]DrLawyerson -5ポイント-4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ignorant, please explain.

I though bitcoin was banned in NY? So they get it banned and simply start another service, legally, that does the same thing, while criminalizing bitcoin? Am I missing something?

[–]AgrajagPrime 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It wasn't banned, they just made it really hard to get licensed, so a lot of companies left.

The Winklevii have got their company licensed and so are ok.

[–]BeardMilk 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I though bitcoin was banned in NY?

No.

So they get it banned and simply start another service, legally, that does the same thing, while criminalizing bitcoin?

Bitcoin isn't banned, it never has been.

Am I missing something?

Running an unregulated or unlicensed money transmitting service (yes, including bitcoin) is illegal. It has been for a long time. This is not the same thing as bitcoin being illegal.

[–]DrLawyerson -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can someone extrapolate on the "really hard to get licensed" part?

Also why everyone in this sub simply phrases it "you can't use bitcoin in NY," all the outrage over the laws passed a few months ago, etc etc

[–]AngryWriter 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

For a common person or a small startup, you essentially can't use bitcoins because the costs and process required to get licensed are too high. For someone with deep pockets, it's not impossible.

[–]Richy_T 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And for the right price, you can hire the people who wrote the law to help walk you through it.

[–]5tu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to adhere to the NewYork BitLicense to operate a bitcoin company there. It's expensive to do so only wealthy institutions will be able to offer bitcoin services.

The downside is the innovation from small startups will go to every other state/country due to these high costs, the upside is the remaining ones are likely to have deeper pockets for marketing and doing things professionally.

Time will tell if a license barrier will produce better services over more nimble start ups... It certainly good for Gemini since they'll have little competition there for a while.

[–]BeardMilk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can someone extrapolate on the "really hard to get licensed" part?

It's not. The BitLicense is actually a less restrictive set of regulations than what the traditional financial services providers already have to comply with.

[–]blizeH -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is gentleman.