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beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder が 6時間前 投稿
[–]dessimus 97ポイント98ポイント99ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
Maybe all the other black wizards and witches went to Historically Black Schools of Witchcraft and Wizardry.
[–]Leecannon_ 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
The Muskegge Institute!
[–]capnpitz 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Hogward University
[–]R88SHUN 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 35分前 (0子コメント)
Spellman
That's an easy one.
[–]CptTurnersOpticNerve 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Widdlygramblingtonks
[–]PM_ME_YOUR_BOBBIES 641ポイント642ポイント643ポイント 4時間前 (8子コメント)
Jesus you people are really fucking dense. The story focuses on Hogwarts, so obviously it's mostly white people. They ban people that practice black magic.
[–]Zandrick 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
hey ohh
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 60ポイント61ポイント62ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Love it
[–]Kinetic_Waffle 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
How many reddit comments become part of your show? :P
[–]McWaddle 743ポイント744ポイント745ポイント 5時間前 (130子コメント)
White fantasy writers can't think of a fantasy they like more than "no black people."
That was the funniest part.
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[–]Beverages_ 49ポイント50ポイント51ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
Too be fair that Chinese girl probably had more sceen time than the blacks too
[–]cigerect 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 58分前 (0子コメント)
the blacks
[–]I_SPLIT_INFINITIVES 169ポイント170ポイント171ポイント 3時間前 (9子コメント)
If I don't see at least one black person, one Hispanic person, one Asian, one Jewish person, one physically handicapped person, one mentally handicapped person, and one Native American in every single piece of media I consume, I get absolutely outraged.
[–]thach_weave 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Don't forget the token gay!
[–]Scrubtac 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 52分前 (1子コメント)
He's so brave.
[–]iSalad 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 26分前 (0子コメント)
Sure, but is he sassy?
[–]Badgerisbest 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 1時間前* (1子コメント)
Token diversity to cover all the bases is almost as bad as not having any diversity anyway.
Everyone ends up being this walking stereotype. Or the kid in the wheelchair.
[–]WizardofStaz 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 47分前 (0子コメント)
Remember kids, the only options are two extremes, no matter what the issue is! If someone complains about one thing, they can logically only ever be demanding the extreme opposite of it!
[–]papske 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Just go stare at the front of a standard highschool math textbook.
[–]Zenith_and_Quasar 92ポイント93ポイント94ポイント 4時間前 (79子コメント)
There are black people in England tho
[–]ion9a 66ポイント67ポイント68ポイント 3時間前 (27子コメント)
JK Rowling began writing the first Harry Potter book in 1990, the book that essentially established all the main characters as far as I'm aware. According to this analysis of the 1990 UK Census, there was a grand total of 2% combined Black African and Black Caribbean in the UK - 1% each.
[–]WizardofStaz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 46分前 (0子コメント)
New characters are added every book with the new years, but you're right that the majority of the main characters are established from book 1.
[–]redpenquin 96ポイント97ポイント98ポイント 4時間前 (4子コメント)
When you get out of London and Birmingham, there aren't really a lot of black people in England. They only constituted 3% of the population in the 2011 census.
[–]sethboy66 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
BUT WE CAN'T BE SEEN AS RACIST. THAT'S LIKE THE WORST.
Meanwhile actually racists are living on.
[–]CRCasper 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I grew up in south Hampshire, you could count the number of non-white people that went to our secondary school on one hand.
[–]Wanted9867 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 42分前 (0子コメント)
I grew up in rural Florida. You could count the number of non whites in my secondary school with no hands.
[–]lordcheeto 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 3時間前 (6子コメント)
2011 Census: 3.01%
If anyone has a breakdown of the talktime by actor, we can see if the ratio matches. The films are almost 20 hours long, but by no means is that all talking.
[–]capnpitz 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
The six minutes is all nonwhite actors, not just black actors. So the real comparison is to the 87 percent that's white and the 13 percent that's not.
For the ratio to match, the 6 minutes of nonwhite actor speaking time would have to compare to a total of about 40 minutes of white actor speaking time across those 20 hours of film.
[–]HarveySpecter- 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
I think Hogwarts is a private school as well, so there's going to be even less black people.
[–]MolemanusRex 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
But it's free, so money wouldn't be a barrier.
[–]askinnydude 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 41分前 (1子コメント)
Don't they have to buy books and wands and shit? And hire the little hobbit goblin man that cleans the dormitory?
[–]kunal18293 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 39分前 (0子コメント)
Paid for if the students cant pay for them. See Voldemort.
[–]zolzks_rebooted1 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
All non-whites are about 12% (from your link).
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[–]D-DC 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 4時間前 (27子コメント)
its really not fair how this shit is only brought up about blacks. Nobody whines theres no swedish guy or no asian guy. Even though alot more of the planet is asians/indians than black.
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 4時間前 (19子コメント)
The 6 minutes is 'non white actors' meaning the Asian, South Asian, Black, and other non-white racial minorities. I imagine if it was just black people, then number would be even lower.
[–]raznog 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 4時間前 (16子コメント)
What about cho?
[–]capnpitz 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 4時間前* (15子コメント)
Including Cho.
Edit: Guys, it's easy to answer these questions. Just watch.
[–]ShrimpFood 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 3時間前 (4子コメント)
I like how they included centaurs, that's pretty great.
[–]capnpitz 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Yeah, but because the actor was black. Not, like, because they thought centaur was a race.
[–]nearlyp 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
Same with LOTR. The only person of color in Fellowshop is, I think, a Maori actor that plays an orc. There are more actors of color playing orcs in the other two.
I'm actually kind of impressed that HP managed to pull 6 minutes of speaking time across the series.
[–]capnpitz 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
The centaur thing, at least, is in keeping with the proud tradition of black male actors in equine roles.
[–]WhamBamMaam 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Wow, there were only like 4 recurring characters of color and none of them ever really carried conversations other than Cho (who was just a love interest without substantial dialogue). Not like it's a big deal, it is England after all. But a few of those movie sections really whizzed by lol.
[–]Randommook 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Makes sense though. They generally had a bit more of an active role in the books but the movies had to significantly cut a lot of the side characters' roles down to focus on the main protagonist and his friends which doesn't leave a whole lot of room for characters like Cho.
[–]Deckkie 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I wonder how many minutes of talk there is in total (excluding the 3 main characters).
[–]IAmJacksPokedEye 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
That seems ridiculous, Cho has more than six minutes of screen time on her own, let alone other non-white characters.
[–]capnpitz 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 3時間前 (4子コメント)
Not screen time. Speaking lines.
[–]Flaming_Baklava 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
...that's because a lot more of the planet is asian/Indians. how do I explain this lol.
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Thanks - that's the tag I use on stage. I tried adding it to the shot, but it crowded the screen too much.
[–]JayceMJ 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Would have made a great title.
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Yeah you're probably right, but it's like a nice little secret treat for the people who click through now I guess..
[–]untrustableskeptic 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
It made me chortle, so yeah man. Thanks I guess.
[–]M1key112 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
Probably because they're in fuckin England.
[–]Mudchute 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 31分前 (0子コメント)
Well, Hogwarts is in Scotland.
But in any case, in the nineties, when Harry Potter is set, the UK was overwhelmingly white, even more so than now.
[–]Eighty6_ 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Fuckin tea sippers
[–]QuantumDisruption 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 15分前 (0子コメント)
But we should give black actors and actresses more roles in films because they haven't had the same opportunities to break into the acting scene as white actors. hahahahaha YOU PC BRO!?
[–]DoDope_FuckHope 235ポイント236ポイント237ポイント 6時間前 (122子コメント)
well, I guess you wouldn't really imagine a lot of black people walking around a big castle in england but I still get the point
[–]archdeco2 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 5時間前 (13子コメント)
There's a black dude in Asgard. And he's pretty important!
[–]iamPause 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
So you be Thor and I'll be Odin, you rodent, I'm omnipotent
[–]OnMemoryLane 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 5時間前 (103子コメント)
There are plenty of black British people though..
[–]off_the_grid_dream 75ポイント76ポイント77ポイント 5時間前 (7子コメント)
Yes....2% of the population.
[–]DTMickeyB 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 41分前 (0子コメント)
And not even that when potter was written
[–]marvelous_persona 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (4子コメント)
3.5%*
[–]off_the_grid_dream 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Thats weird. The first time I googled it the top thing said 2%. When I searched again it said 3.5. Weird.
Edit: Found it....2% was 2001, 3% for "British" 2011, 3.5% for England specifically.
[–]HITMAN616 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 40分前 (0子コメント)
They're... breeding...
[–]OnMemoryLane 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Fair enough.
[–]heidurzo 72ポイント73ポイント74ポイント 5時間前 (14子コメント)
Not that many actually, it's easy to get a wrong impression from London or other big cities though. Only around 3%.
[–]thatmethguy 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 2時間前 (12子コメント)
It seems like black people get a lot more representation on tv over there than in the U.S
[–]Zandrick 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (8子コメント)
Somewhat over represented to be honest with you, and most definitely under represented here in America.
[–]BeakerandBunsen 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 1時間前* (5子コメント)
What? Black people are under represented in tv in America? You're crazy. They only make up like 12% of the population and are in a ton of things. Watch any commercial and see if there is more or less than 12% black people. Hispanics are the one that are under represented.
edit: Yeah you're wrong. Look at this paper page 5:
The groups chosen for this study were based on race and ethnicity, sexuality and weight. For this study, African Americans and Caucasians were excluded from the subordinate groups since they are actually considered over-represented in prime time, making up 74 percent of all characters compared to only making up 69 percent of the U.S. population.
[–]qwertpoi 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
I've noticed this and its honestly a little absurd.
Any type of 'typical' product/service commercial seems to have like a 40% chance of having a black person/family, a 45% chance of a white person/family, and like a 10% chance of hispanic with the remaining five percent divided between the 'other' ethnicities.
I am sure that part of this is that black families are overrepresented in urban areas (where these commercials are mostly targeted) but if you assumed they were a representative sample, you'd be very surprised to find out the truth.
From an advertiser's perspective, I imagine that it has to do with covering your bases, and there's very little risk trying to broaden your appeal.
[–]BeakerandBunsen 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 41分前 (0子コメント)
That and if you don't have black people in your commercial it can be seen as racist which in America is the worst thing you can be.
[–]rabidbot 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
You don't feel that black people get about 10-12% of screen time?
[–]DTMickeyB 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 40分前 (0子コメント)
Actually over represented in tv in both countries, but especially British tv.
[–]JustinPA 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Probably has something to do with many of the black people in the UK are relatively new to the country and still have some of that immigrant work ethic.
[–]DoDope_FuckHope 50ポイント51ポイント52ポイント 5時間前 (4子コメント)
I know, but how many black british people are wizards?
....Exactly.
[–]Crashmo 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Only Ainsley Harriot.
[–]Langston_huge 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Estelle is a crystal Gem. Does that count?
[–]reginalduk 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Possibly Kris akabusi too.
[–]Tappen_Zee[🍰] 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
Yea, a whopping 3.5% of people in England are black.
Edit: and as pointed out, only .8% were black in the 90's.
[–]SentientHAL 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
There are more non-white people than just black people. In total it's about 11%.
[–]AnorexicBuddha 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
That wasn't what he asked for.
[–]SentientHAL 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I was more referring to the OP.
[–]Cletus99 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
There's actually hardly any if you look at the statistics.
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 149ポイント150ポイント151ポイント 5時間前 (66子コメント)
But black British people in castles? Unthinkable!
[–]joe_bot_ 255ポイント256ポイント257ポイント 5時間前 (64子コメント)
They still only make up 3% of the population now. This was 0.8% during the 90s, when the books were written. Considering there's only 170~ named human characters in the series, having just one accurately represents the time and place it was written.
[–]czhunc 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 4時間前 (7子コメント)
Yes, but what percentage of each ethnicity become wizards?
[–]joe_bot_ 66ポイント67ポイント68ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Dunno, never got a letter.
[–]IllIIllIlIlI 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Filthy muggle get of this website
[–]1stOnRt1 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
I imagine there is actually something to this though.
While there are muggle born witches in wizards, It is largly a hereditary feature (barring squibs). Most of the wizarding community would be white.
The black men and women originally brought to england were brought up as slaves, and I reckon an african witch/wizard would be able to get away
[–]Zahahac 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
The black men and women originally brought to england were brought up as slaves, and I reckon an african witch/wizard would be able to get away not get captured in the first place.
I FTFY
[–]WizardofStaz 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 42分前 (1子コメント)
If white witches and wizards are cooperating with slave traders, they could totally be captured.
[–]Zahahac 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 28分前 (0子コメント)
But then I feel like that would also answer the question of why they wouldn't be very prominent or abundant in the wizarding world. Wizards and witches seem to be a lot more resistant to change than muggles.
[–]Badgerisbest 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Affirmative Wizard Action.
[–]CoryGM 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
What percent of the British population is talking snakes?
[–]joe_bot_ 44ポイント45ポイント46ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Well if you're to believe some people the entire population of Westminster.
[–]Great_Zarquon 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
You should write for late 20th century British sitcoms.
[–]LitrallyTitler 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Why is everyone fixated on the damn snake? There's other shit to use guys, like the damn Jews er...Goblins and Dragons and centaurs and werewolves and phoenixes and basilisks and Grindywinks or whatever the fuck those things were called
[–]teedubya -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 5時間前 (13子コメント)
The English had the foresight to not bring hundreds of thousands of African slaves back to Britain.
[–]johnny_appletits 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 4時間前 (12子コメント)
I thought it was funny
[+]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-23ポイント-22ポイント-21ポイント 5時間前 (33子コメント)
Yeah I mean I should have probably looked up census data and compared it against the screen time so this would be an accurate statement, rather than a funny joke.
Nobody ever holds a joke against other races to this much scrutiny. Enjoy it for what it is, a joke.
[–]JRutterbush 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
If it weren't obvious that you meant it to be more than just "a funny joke", you'd have a point. But it's pretty clear that you're also trying to make a statement here... so, yes, you should in fact try to make sure that it's an accurate statement.
[–]Tartra 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Jokes and facts aren't the same thing?!!
Oh. Ohhhhh. I owe so many apologies to so many people.
[–]somethingrelevant 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Nobody ever holds a joke against other races to this much scrutiny.
What level of scrutiny do you think is being applied here? People have said "okay but england is super white so that's probably why there's not many black people in it," and that is a straightforward response to someone implying Harry Potter is racist because there's so few black people in it.
Enjoy it for what it is, a joke.
It's a joke prefaced by the statement that harry potter is a racist (???) and followed by another statement that white fantasy writers enjoy writing stories with no black people in them. What kind of response to that were you expecting?
I enjoyed the joke. It's an amusing observation. Every conclusion you've drawn from it is nonsense.
[–]JesusPimpHand 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Society doesn't like racists. If you're joke is based on "LOOK HOW RACIST THIS PERSON IS THEY LIKE SNAKES BETTER THAN BLACK PEOPLE", yeah dick move. Especially if their intent was to be inclusive at the time, considering other writers would have just had no representation.
[–]boisterous_innuendo 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 4時間前 (16子コメント)
I kind-of agree, but I think political/ethical jokes generally should have some level of truth to them?
[–]joe_bot_ 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (9子コメント)
It's just a prank, bro.
[–]Whales96 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Are you implying that Family Guy may not portray historical facts truthfully?
[–]swohio 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
so this would be an accurate statement, rather than a funny joke.
Too bad it was neither.
[–]Captain_Jake_K 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
There were very few in Scotland in the early 90s. Britain was over 90% white when Harry attended Hogwarts. Statistically, there are actually more named ethnic minorities than you'd expect. A quarter of the DA are non-whites.
[–]czhunc 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Like, modern day England?, we're not talking about the middle ages, you know.
[–]SandfordNWA 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Hogwarts is in Scotland
[–]takesthebiscuit 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
North scotland to boot.
The % of non-white people is about 1% - 1.5%
Here I even have a source: http://www.gov.scot/Topics/People/Equality/Equalities/DataGrid/Ethnicity/EthPopMig
[–]capnpitz 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Right, but it took in students from all over Britain. It wasn't, like, the local school.
[–]flamehorn 202ポイント203ポイント204ポイント 5時間前 (49子コメント)
It's almost like the rest of the world isn't the USA.
[–]off_the_grid_dream 101ポイント102ポイント103ポイント 5時間前 (24子コメント)
Totally. Just like Tyler Perry movies, or Bollywood, or Nigerian movies. Oh wait....It's only bad if you don't have other races in your movies if you're white.
Like seriously, she was writing to a specific audience and used what she knew. It is not some conspiracy against a race. It's called "writing what you know".
[–]Hot4_TeaCha 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
Tyler Perry movies usually have at least one or two token White people in them.
Big budget Bollywood movies also get lots of shit within India for disproportionately focusing on fair skinned stars from just a handful of states in Northern India. So they're not really innocent there either.
[–]off_the_grid_dream 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
Honestly I don't think there is anything wrong with having movies with mostly/all one race. Or mixed, or whatever. I like good characters and a well thought out plot. Or just stupid shit that makes me laugh. It's when people start picking at shit like this that pisses me off. Who said every piece of work needs the exact make up of race representation. Why wasn't Harry Potter full of Asians? There are more of them in the world than anyone? It's fucking ridiculous. Black Green Lantern, white green lantern, who cares?
I heard an ad on the radio about people hoping for the first female or black Prime Minister in Canada. I get that we want ALL people to have a chance in politics/work/life. But if you think for one minute I make a decision on race/gender you are very wrong. How about we focus on getting someone honest and competent into the job instead.
Edit: I grew up being told not to care about race/gender and focus on the person. But now I am told we need to make exceptions based on those exact things. It's very frustrating.
[–]Devilsdance 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
Regardless of whether you "care about race", people (kids in particular) are heavily influenced by the representation of races in media. We unconsciously make associations between people who look similar, so if the majority of blacks on tv/movies are presented as nothing more than a stereotype ( often as criminals) then people will develop an unconscious bias toward those people. Similarly, lack of representation as characters with depth will reinforce the stereotypes presented from other sources.
Just as an example of how these unconscious biases effect behavior, there was a study that required trained police officers to make a split second decision of whether a person was holding a gun or a cell phone. If the person was black they were much more likely to assume they were holding a weapon than if they were white.
It's "just" a kids movie, but there are kids of all races watching it, and not having representation of people of their race has effects on their own self worth regardless of whether people like you decide not to pay attention to race.
[–]CornFedMidwesternBoy 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I DEMAND MORE WHITE PEOPLE ON BET
[–]bzsteele 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前* (3子コメント)
Also, the black characters has way more lines in the book. They also made a black character in the book white for the movies (Lavender Brown.)
Also, Lee Jordan talked a lot in the books and kinda a lot in the movies since he the announcer.
Edit: I fucked up.Lavender Brown was black in the earlier movies and was white in the later ones.
[–]tw1260 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Lavender brown wasn't black in the books. It never said what race she was. Her name was brown, not her skin
[–]bzsteele 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Fuck, I messed that up. Lavender Brown was Black in the earlier movies but was replaced by a white actor later in the movies.
[+]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 5時間前 (9子コメント)
It's called "a joke." Nobody holds jokes where the target is a minority to this much scrutiny, but once white people are the target everyone comes out of the woodwork to explain why it's wrong.
It's a joke told by a comedian. I'm not a philosopher, a political scientist, or even a well read average civilian. I try to make people laugh, that's it.
[–]Happyhotel 34ポイント35ポイント36ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
Nobody holds jokes where the target is a minority to this much scrutiny
Ummm are you sure about that?
[–]Cletus99 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I think everyone's offering a lot of scrutiny, because in your other posts here, you seem to truly think that this is racist. The ignorance is astounding.
[–]CowFu 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Chill man, every race based joke gets these kinds of comments, no need to be so defensive.
You're completely wrong about the minority targeted jokes though, they get these exact same comments. It's just the way commenting works. It's not a big deal, let it go.
[–]Beverages_ 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Reddit is quick to attack sjw's but as soon as /r/standupshots starts poking fun...
[–]NewAnimal 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Yikes, nothing more cringey than an artist "defending" his arts validity. especially comedians.
[–]obiwancomeboneme 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Cool bro, you PC too?
[–]astrobeen 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 6時間前 (10子コメント)
Is there a way to tag this with a "grand wizard" reference?
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 6時間前 (9子コメント)
I had that idea when I initially wrote it, but then I saw a bunch of people make that joke on the AV Club forums, so I dropped it. Right now I tag it with a line about white fantasy writers being incapable of finding a fantasy they like more than 'No Black People.'
In my set, this is sandwiched between a joke about minority representation in Star Wars, and one about how we should have guessed that Michael Richards was a racist.
[–]HorrendousRex 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 5時間前 (5子コメント)
Depending on how the public reacts to one of the main characters of the new Star Wars movie being black, that joke might might need some tweaking. I mean, I don't know, but just a heads up in case you don't follow the previews coming out.
(Love the joke!)
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 5時間前 (4子コメント)
I'm a huuuuuge Star Wars fan, so believe me I'm watching those previews like a bald, fat hawk.
Right now the basis of it is that they didn't call Billy Dee Williams to make an appearance in the new one because they'd already filled their 'one black guy' quota, and didn't want people to think Spike Lee directed it.
[–]LuxNocte 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
A bald, fat hawk is an eagle.
MERICA!
[–]beef_boloneyNYC - @jeremythunder[S] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I am legit sitting next to a huge American flag tacked up on my wall
[–]cakedestroyer 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Dude, you're crushing these back to back. Love it.
[–]aedeos 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I like how you feel the need to clarify fantasy writers as white as though it would be anything but.
[–]MisterWonka 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
What's the Michael Richards joke?
[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
You look exactly like what I'd expect the type of person who would make this joke to look like.
[–]JesusPimpHand 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Goony beard men.
Look how progressive I am!
[–]BoltWire 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Yeah JK Rowling is just SO racist....
The movies, not the books. In the books, there are scores of characters with little to no physical description. Picture any race you want!
[–]scarsAndFlames 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
yeah, and most obese people (The Dursleys, Pettigrew, Crabbe vs Molly Weasley) in harry potter are evil and I'm not complaining either
If a character is well-written, then it doesn't matter, what gender, ethnicity, etc. he/she is
[–]iwonderhowlonguserna 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
There's also zero inuits and native americans. Such racism!
[–]Bragzor 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 4時間前 (5子コメント)
Yeah, because there are so many black people in the GB. Especially in not-London. Besides, most of it is in a semi-posh boarding school in Scotland. I'm more surprised there's actually any non-white students there at all.
[–]HarveySpecter- 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Boarding school in Scotland? Need more Russian and Chinese kids with bulging bank accounts.
[–]Bragzor 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
I'm not up to date on the lore, but I think they have a wizarding school in Russia.
[–]hasapoint 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Durmstrang, alma mater of Headmaster Karkoff and Quidditch superstar Viktor Krum.
[–]draaakje 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 47分前 (0子コメント)
Durmstrang is in Bulgaria.
[–]MrSamsonite 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
is joke
[–]1demrte 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Is this guy fucking sirius?
[–]ZPTs 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
#snakelivesmatter
[–]devilbutt 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Lame joke. Just sounds more like a complaint than a joke. I don't see the snake as comical, because it's actually a pivotal point of the whole story. Seems this guy just watched the movies on one lame Saturday night with his neckbeard allegiance and wanted to not be like every "white cis male" this fucking generation is stupid and way too offended. I watched BET the other day and there wasn't enough cats. What are they animal abusers. Fuck this forced lame joke.
[–]Rohasfin 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I've seen some interesting comments about race relations in the past... but... calling snakes white? An underbelly doesn't define a character, man. That's some serious stigma you're throwing around there, lumping snakes in with those white devils.
[–]gatorbite92 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 4時間前 (9子コメント)
I think the reason you might be getting some shit for this here is because a lot of Tumblrinas like to bitch and moan about "muh racism in harry potter." Joke is funny for American audiences, but it's a British book. There's a reason there's no black people. Still, I laughed.
[–]lalilulelo09 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
I don't know how to tell you this but, black people exist in the UK.
[–]DTMickeyB 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 26分前 (0子コメント)
Literally less than 1% when the books were written
[–]benthamshead1 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Oh wow, these comments...
I hope you learned your lesson about trying to talk to Reddit about race!
[–]FricasseeingRabbitNew York City 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 5時間前* (6子コメント)
when I see one of my buddies from real life submit to standupshots, got a ton of upvotes and get downvoted to hell in the comments section
[–]RangoBronson 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 4時間前 (10子コメント)
I wish standup shots was banned instead of fat people hate....
[–]ProfessionalRedneck 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
The story is based in the UK. Everyone in the book speaks in perfect English so it's probably safe to say they didn't immigrate from another country. The UK has a population that is 87% white, do the fucking math. Perfect English speakers from the UK that have no accent, pretty good chance they are white. All of the main characters have been featured in artwork before he movies, as guess what, white. This guy is a fucking idiot.
[–]triggerheart 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (37子コメント)
Let's all remember that the actress who played Lavender Brown was black until her character became important. Suddenly, Lavender Brown went under an MJ-esque transformation.
[–]sterreg 59ポイント60ポイント61ポイント 4時間前 (13子コメント)
I remember reading somewhere (probably the Harry Potter subreddit) that when the first movies were filmed, there wasn't really a physical description of her in the books, but in a later book there was and she was white.
[–]PlatonicTroglodyte 34ポイント35ポイント36ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
This is true. Also, the black actress playing Lavender is not exactly serving as anything but an extra. She could have been credited as "random student #65" and no one would have been like "wait, where's Lavender?"
[–]capnpitz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (9子コメント)
I don't believe any book actually described her complexion, her hair color, or anything else that would provide a clue to her race. The closest they came was a line about how she and Ron were wrapped up together so it was "hard to tell whose hands were whose."
[–]sterreg 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 3時間前 (8子コメント)
That's a pretty big clue, considering Ron was a pale ginger
[–]BoxingBlueberry 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 4時間前 (7子コメント)
No, there wasn't a description of her skin color until she became important. Stop trying to see racism in everything lol.
[–]Will_billy 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
And also, the opposite happened with crab/goyle!
[–]BoxingBlueberry 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Well, he went to jail and ironically was replaced by a black guy.
[–]rkellyturbo 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
That was an entirely different character.
[–]polite-1 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
white people really cannot take a joke.
[–]strowen 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
God forbid a story that would logically feature mostly white people features mostly white people....but no no it's cool if the Japanese Attack on Titan movie replaces every white character with a Japanese one, in a story where one of the characters being the last surviving Asian is a major plot point
[–]Mutiny32 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Meh. Bad example.
[–]ShrimpFood -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
It's a joke, not a thesis.
[–]Casemods 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Black people see this shit and think that we actually think it's racist...please stop.
[–]leadstriker -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Sneks
[–]prettyprincess90 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
I guess everyone forgets about Cho Chang...
[–]capnpitz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
This includes Cho.
[–]prettyprincess90 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I mean the movies aren't really a good representation of the books in that sense they seem more whitewashed than the books. I mean he obviously had no problem with Cho or going to the ball with an Indian girl. I know the pictures a joke but still.
[–]njm1314 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
There is no way this is true. Hell the announcer kid alone should take up that time. Between him, the two Indian girls, and the Asian girlfriend, and that deep voiced black guy (Shackleford? Shacklebolt? Something like that) I don't think it is possible for this to be true.
[–]Theditor 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Am I the only one that's having a hard time remembering snakes taking in Harry Potter for longer than 6 minutes?
[–]wakka54 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
It's England.
[–]Phanfamous 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 47分前 (0子コメント)
Maybe if they were written today half the people in the book would be named Mohammed?
[–]blh1003 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 45分前 (0子コメント)
Didn't realize blacks were the only minority until this thread
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[–]jedimasterbates420 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 39分前 (0子コメント)
is this supposed to be a crisis or something? lmao
[–]darockerj -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 39分前 (1子コメント)
I feel like it has potential, but it just doesn't seem complete. Like, it's a good setup, but it needs a stronger punchline than the "snakes" bit.
[–]Jimwa7 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 26分前 (0子コメント)
It's correctly proportioned, didn't you know they are more talking snakes than non-White people? /s
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