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A brief introduction to shill software (self.conspiracy)

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http://www.prweek.com/article/1254650/latest-software-helps-demystify-various-web-20-tactics

The company primarily targets nonprofit and advocacy groups, allowing them to mobilize their supporters through linking various social media. For example, the new technology lets groups send messages that include YouTube videos or news articles linked directly to online popularity sites like Digg, which can increase the material's visibility.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100330024930/http://collactive.com/partners (Active at least until 2013. This replaced Megaphone desktop. No idea what the replacement for this is)

Collactive is focused on licensing the Collactive Social Media Manager to give professionals an edge in today’s highly dynamic Web 2.0 environment.

Collactive enhances and expands the offering of:

PR Agencies
Advertising Agencies
Marketing Companies

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB117919015237802706

Features like most-viewed, most-popular and most-emailed lists [like Reddit and Digg] democratize news and information, advocates say, letting consumers play a role in what's deemed worthy of others' attention, taking it out of the hands of an unseen editorial elite. Now, though, a diverse group of actors -- ranging from spyware makers to a venture-backed start-up -- is helping push specific videos, articles and photos to the top of those lists. Some of the Web sites targeted now are having to grapple with how to draw the line between user input and unacceptable manipulation.

I'm sure this is just scratching the surface...

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[–]plato_thyself 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great post, thanks for raising visibility on this important issue. It's not just reddit, this is happening all over the internet.

[–]bittermanscolon 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh wow. Thank you for this post.

[–]PM_Me_Your_Photo_ID[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

X-post from /r/internetpr

There's tons of good info in that sub.

[–]bittermanscolon 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks very much, I will take a look. I may not understand it all but....the knowledge this is all out there is enough support for an argument that we're being manipulated on so many levels by so many people.

[–]LetsHackReality 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

/u/NutritionResearch has done a fantastic job with that sub.

[–]NutritionResearch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many thanks!

If anyone has any good information on shills, or public relations on the internet in general, please post it there.

[–]parrhesiaJoe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw this dropping in rank, so I made sure to upvote it... Who would downvote this? Oh yeah... I know.

[–]IntellisaurDinoAlien 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

The instant downvotes mean you must be on the right track, fucking shill scum.

[–]LetsHackReality 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

I do wonder, sometimes, whether we "good guys" should be using these tools and techniques too. We operate under a perhaps naive assumption that just telling the truth and playing fair will win the day in the long run. Meanwhile, we're posting against brigades of deceivers, arguing with shills and their 10 alts,...

I dunno man.

[–]CasioQuartz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean there are countless forums through which people and certain groups meet and stay in contact. They certainly use tools as shown by OP. Or think of intelligence agencies. Just two links which show the techniques that are used to infiltrate, manipulate & more..

[–]PM_Me_Your_Photo_ID[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shills are crafty and they have nothing but time and an unhealthy obsession with infiltration. I'd have to assume that one of them would "infiltrate" our super secret anti-shill network and "expose it." Then, that will drown out all mentions of PR agencies using the software, and place full blame on us. They did the same thing with Russia. All they do is point out how there's so many "Putin-bots" after one NYT article claimed there was a measly 400 Russian shills- a drop in the bucket.

[–]NutritionResearch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could be used in other ways. Maybe just to organize, not vote brigade, and stuff like that.

[–]LetsHackReality 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true. Take this very subreddit, for example. Hell, I have no way to prove that I'm not a agent, let alone you. And when AI really gets cranking, what hope is there?

The other extreme is that each person should just do their own thing. If we're all aligned to truth, that will be our overarching marching order.

I just can't see how a disorganized mob can make any head-way against an organized machine. Seems like wishful thinking.

[–]Mahat 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We should all be using this software for organizing government into the digital age. For connecting with our states and municipalities, our representatives. Ideally we could organize it to link voting records and to speak with constituents. It would hold all to accountability. This is why we use technology for subversive means. Because our crooks in offices globally don't want organisation to take place against their leadership and business practices.

The revolving door of business and government all but guarantees collusion against workers and citizens of any region.

[–]LetsHackReality 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that is a different frame, and I like it. It's the People's Government, not an insurgent group. We represent the will of the people. They are the terrorists.

This is literally true. Ain't that some shit.

[–]devotiontoadream 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't this sub be set to an "invite only" type of thing, so only people who have a post history and one name per IP could get on?

I know it would be a mod nightmare at first but surely something can be done? Voat is getting noticed by JIDF as well...

[–]ZioFascist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

yepppppppp and lots of JIDF shills.

[–]haf710 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Makes sense. Cannot be this many dumb people around.

[–]sharked 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wish there was some software that would ID shill comments and submissions.

[–]PM_Me_Your_Photo_ID[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

RES tagging? That's specific to each person, though.

[–]LetsHackReality 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

There may be a way to import "shill" tags from an external file:

The use would be that users keep a central list of known or suspected or known shills, then sync that list among ourselves, and auto-hide the shills. poof!

The downside is that most of the shilling effort is directed not at us, but at the lurker audience, largely made of casual users that probably won't have RES installed. And by us ignoring the shills, it grants them an uncontested stage before that audience.

Still, it might be worth doing. Or maybe worth considering, in some capacity, as a feature for a future Reddit clone.

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[–]metabolix -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wowz I gotta look into this

[–]LetsHackReality -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shills are the cancer that are destroying reddit. And if you call them on it, your comment will be deleted by a certain mod whose name I won't say but rhymes with "FlovereignFlan".