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[–]blacksrule 23ポイント24ポイント  (16子コメント)

Needs fact checking

[–]RickAtsley[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (15子コメント)

I found similar numbers here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

[–]oscillating_reality 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

The classification for "school shootings" has become very broad though.

Gang violence that occurs outside of a school in a city isn't in the same category as someone going into a class room and randomly shooting it up, in my view.

[–]justin37013 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yea, for some reason everyday gang violence that kills kids in impoverished areas isn't news worthy. What's tragic is that it takes a massacre involving middle class white people to gain national attention

[–]djsumdog 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, for some reason everyday gang violence that kills kids in impoverished areas isn't news worthy.

Hmm... is this true. I'm looking at the wikipedia list and it doesn't seem to segregate by small or big shootings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

I don't think shootings happen every day, liked you'd think by watching too much The Wire or Dangerous Minds. I think there is probably a lot of gang violence outside of school. ... but there's also a lot of Mafia violence with adults too. The principal is the same.

It's interesting looking at that wikipedia page too:

August 16, 1856: Florence, Alabama, The school master had a tame sparrow of which he was very fond, and had warned the students that if any of them killed it, they will die by his hands. By accident, or intentionally, one of the boys stepped on the bird and killed it. Alarmed by the threats, the boy was afraid to return to school, but the Master begged him to come back. He did so, and after the lessons were finished, he took the boy into a private room, and strangled him to death. Upon the boy's father hearing what had occurred, he loaded his gun and went and shot the schoolmaster dead

WTF?

[–]Mooriarti -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

TIL gang members are referred to as kids. Also are you saying that only whites have been killed in every single school shooting?

[–]justin37013 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't say all gang members were kids, you're putting words in my mouth. Young kids in areas where there is a lot of violence, typically associated with drug and gang activity, are shot all the time. It gets no national attention when it happens because most people don't about these areas.

[–]Mooriarti -5ポイント-4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Also good to know that you think a school shooting in an majority black school would gain no national attention. Lets use this opportunity to make this a black vs white issue.

[–]justin37013 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Kids get shot at school all the time in poor areas and it gets no national attention. The nation only cares when white kids, college students get shot or a nice looking white girl goes missing.

[–]RickAtsley[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have death tolls listed on there as well. Have not tallied them up myself.

[–]giannini1222 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you believe a parody twitter account? Okie dokie.

[–]iamtheredditor 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

And even more will happen in the 8 years following Obama... this doesn't actually mean anything besides how fucked up it is that the shooters are damn near popularized by the media and take advantage of that.

[–]yankeetider1 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is that more Obama's fault or Fox New's fault, Shepard?

[–]eraser851 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, Obama!

[–]theFute 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Correlation does not equal causation.

[–]Quantumhead 1ポイント2ポイント  (21子コメント)

Retarded. Pieces of shit just being pieces of shit. It's Obama's fault that kids keep shooting up schools? He's the one pushing for tougher gun regulations and you idiots are the ones saying we need more guns.

[–]Freedom-Seeker 7ポイント8ポイント  (19子コメント)

So I'll bite here. If your answer is really more gun control, you realize that this campus in Oregon has the toughest gun control in the country, no guns allowed. The only people who got shot were the ones without guns. The entire less guns argument is flawed from the very beginning, as we have examples, many of them, of complete gun free zones being scenes of horrific gun violence.

[–]magrya2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://web.archive.org/web/20150317085529/http://umpqua.edu/resources-and-services/academic/student-code-of-conduct?showall=&start=4

the college permitted guns with written permission, check number 19 of their misconduct code. that doesnt seem that strict.

Other colleges in oregon outright ban weapons, no written permission or anything. http://www.armedcampuses.org/oregon/

At least try to stick to facts.

[–]Quantumhead 0ポイント1ポイント  (17子コメント)

So I'll bite here. If your answer is really more gun control

I absolutely adore how you said that as if America has too much gun control. Lmfao.

you realize that this campus in Oregon has the toughest gun control in the country

Do you realise that if you ban guns in Chicago I'm going to drive to Rockford and buy one?

The only people who got shot were the ones without guns

Yes, because owning a gun stops you getting shot. Great point.

The entire less guns argument is flawed from the very beginning

I think it is you who is flawed.

[–]Freedom-Seeker 8ポイント9ポイント  (15子コメント)

Do you realise that if you ban guns in Chicago I'm going to drive to Rockford and buy one?

Your living in fantasy land if you think the gang bangers in Chicago are going to give up their guns if a ban was put into place.

Yes, because owning a gun stops you getting shot. Great point.

What's the ONLY thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun?

[–]Quantumhead 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

What's the ONLY thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun?

Not selling him the gun.

[–]Freedom-Seeker -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

How is any law going to stop a criminal from buying a gun?

[–]Quantumhead 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

How is any law going to stop a criminal from buying a gun?

How is any law going to stop rape and murder?

So, following on from what you seem to believe is "logic", we should legalise and encourage rape, murder, and every other crime, on the grounds that some people will still do it even if it is against the law, yes?

Just like the last Forrest Gump I've just spoken too, you appear to believe that when people disobey the law, the correct thing to do is to legalise whichever crime they have committed.

Out of interest, have any of you stopped and considered why you are all using precisely the same fallacy that guns need to be legal because "criminals will buy them anyway"? No, I don't suppose you have, have you? People still buy child sex slaves, so should we legalise that too, you fucking dickhead?

[–]TreesnCats 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You realize that guns already circulate, that there's fucking tons of them? It's not like the slave trade or killing people, where every bit of it is and has been illegal for decades. To compare the two makes you sound genuinely retarded.

[–]Quantumhead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You realize that guns already circulate, that there's fucking tons of them?

I don't think you realise that having a problem is not a reason to argue that we shouldn't try to solve it.

It's not like the slave trade or killing people, where every bit of it is and has been illegal for decades.

Thanks for pointing out that your argument would also apply to slavery if we were talking in 1800. There are tons of slaves, and it isn't like we rape them, which has been illegal for decades. Let's keep slavery legal too, and encourage it. Because, you know, we'll never get rid of it.

[–]Quantumhead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In fact, your question is just outright nonsensical. If it is against the law to buy a gun, then the very act of buying a gun makes you a criminal.

[–]Quantumhead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your living in fantasy land if you think the gang bangers in Chicago are going to give up their guns if a ban was put into place.

Yes, good point. I'm also living in fantasy land that gang bangers don't murder and rape people, so let's legalise murder and rape too.

In fact, let's not bother making any new laws at all or tackling any sort of crime. I mean, I'm living in fantasy land to think that people aren't going to do these things anyway, right? So it makes perfect sense to just let people do what they want.

And if you disagree, then you're living in fantasy land.

I think that just about covers the incredible level of stupidity in the argument that we should abandon the law because some people refuse to obey it.

[–]Wizzad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

His comment reminds me of this.

[–]lactose_intoleroni -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post is obviously over your head. Go home, you're drunk.

[–]HS_00 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

That is because they are building up to an Executive branch initiated gun grab at the end of Obama's term.

[–]Throwaway4Censorship 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you're still around in 2016, I'll remind you that you said that.

[–]ScarredCock 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

RemindMe! 31 Dec 2016 "Executive branch initiated gun grab at the end of Obama's term."

[–]HS_00 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt you'll have to.

[–]antiward 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's almost like having a republican congress which blocks any attempts to pass reasonable gun control laws (the type accepted by the rest of the world) on account of their BAT SHIT INSANE AND BASELESS CONSPIRACY THEORIES has prevented any kind of progress in reducing mass shootings to levels seen by other industrialized nations with gun control.

And by the way, those countries with gun control haven't turned into 1984 dystopias.

[–]come_visit_detroit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you going to tell me that we had tighter gun control in the years previous to Obama's administration than we did during his, and that explains these mass shootings? If you did you'd be wrong. The sudden increase in mass shootings is not a result of gun control or a lack thereof - often times the 'reasonable gun control laws' would have done nothing to prevent them. For instance, Oregon already has universal background checks, and what laws would have stopped Lanza from murdering his mother and stealing her weapons?

There is something unrelated to gun control that is driving these school shootings. It isn't just mental health or people searching to be glorified in the media. The sorts that go on mass shooting have been ostracized from their community and have grown so bitter that they lose the empathy that prevents normal people from murdering one another.

The problem is that more people feel like they don't belong, and rather than kill themselves, perhaps numbed by prescription drugs, they simmer until they explode and take others with them.

I suspect that the same things that a driving down social participation (see "Bowling Alone") are responsible for the increase in mass shootings.

[–]lastwordisyours 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, they want the public disarmed and the police armed to the teeth, and they want it to happen fast.
They need these shootings to make that happen.

[–]lucycohen -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bingo! These 'events' are being planned by TPTB

[–]GoogleAlphabet -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

GETOFFGETOFFGETOFF GET OFF IT GET OFF IT

[–]redleftred 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Be rational about this. it's the internet and social media that enables radicalisation and feeds paranoia in the mentally ill. parody account too.

[–]gnovos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What could be the cause?

[–]tigereyeearth2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow great post, could it be because his administration is staging them!!!?!

[–]sharked 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guns are not going to get banned. They have no intention of ever doing so. Obama has been the best president for gun manufacturers. Gun and ammo sales are at an all time high.

So every time Obama mentions anything gun dick riders go out in droves to buy more. Gun lovers should be thanking Obama. I guarantee the manufacturers are grateful.

[–]zipperlt -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shills are hard on this. The fact is: 71 school shoot since 2010 vs 82 in 1966 - 2010. We are talking 71 in 5 yrs vs 82 in 44 year period as listed in Wiki List of USA School Shoots.

[–]Nerdherd99 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Look at what the nigger did" is what they really want to say!

[–]PublicEnemyNumber-1 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Let me guess, you are theorizing that these shootings we're all planned? Let me ask you this mortal, what could the U.S. possibly gain from this?

[–]MaryLS -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The US? Not much to gain. The globalists at the UN? Lots. They are already proposing putting police in US cities to deal with this kind of terror.

[–]PublicEnemyNumber-1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

What exactly would the United Nation globalists be gaining? Please be specific.

[–]AlwaysTurning 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate when people come here to ridiculous and won't even be bothered to do any research themselves.... You're on the internet you know... If you need an opinion laid out for you, you're in the wrong place.

[–]PublicEnemyNumber-1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not the issue here. I am simply asking him what the UN could get out of this, it's not necessarily about opinion. Also, I know that you were referring to him.