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Why are students now cheering about the massacre at Charlie Hebdo?

2 October 2015

I witnessed something genuinely disturbing at Trinity College Dublin last night: trendy, middle-class, liberal students cheering and whooping a man who had just given the closest thing I have yet heard to a justification for the massacre at Charlie Hebdo.

It was as part of a debate on the right to offend. I was on the side of people having the right to say whatever the hell they want, no matter whose panties it bunches. The man on the other side who implied that Charlie Hebdo got what it deserved, and that the right to offend is a poisonous, dangerous notion, was one Asghar Bukhari of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee.

Bukhari defamed Charlie Hebdo as racist, the same dim-witted claim made by every Charliephobe who has clearly never seen an issue of this magazine that rails against the far right and prejudiced politicians.

He then offered us a potted history of French imperialism and brutality in Algeria. Why? As an explanation for why the murderers of Charlie Hebdo’s staff — who were of Algerian descent — did what they did.

There was a political context to their actions, he suggested, but the media ignored it in favour of depicting the killers as ‘brown savages’. Every time Bukhari mentioned Charlie Hebdo, he did so through gritted teeth, with a palpable sense of contempt; he spoke of Charlie Hebdo in the same breath as ‘white supremacism’. In contrast, he talked about the killers with what sounded a lot like sympathy, presenting them as the aggrieved products of French militarism in Algeria.

In his warped worldview, it’s almost as if Charlie Hebdo were the guilty party, a foul committer of Islamophobic speech crimes, and the killers were the victims — victims of history, victims of France, victims of prejudice, driven by political anger. The murdered are the oppressors; the murderers the victims. Real through-the-looking-glass stuff.

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I stood up to make a point of order. I wanted to ask if he felt that perhaps he was apologising for mass murder, justifying it even. But he wouldn’t take my point. So, somewhat impertinently — hey, I was pretty angry by this point — I interjected: ‘This is an apology for murder.’ His response? To accuse me of racism. To suggest that, like the rest of the media, I was treating Muslims as ‘brown savages’. Because of course, if you ask a difficult question of a Muslim in the public eye who is talking a colossal amount of rubbish then you must secretly hate all Muslims. What a cheap, reactionary shot: shut down criticism by playing the racism card.

Also, can we ponder the eye-swivelling irony of my being accused of racism by a man who once sent money to Holocaust denier and anti-Semite David Irving? In 2006, Bukhari sent £60 to Irving as part of his ‘fight for the Truth’. He encouraged Irving to continue to ‘expose certain falsehoods perpetrated by the Jews’. Yeah, sorry, I’m not taking lectures about racism from a man who funded Jew-hatred.

But there was something even more disturbing than Bukhari’s comments on Charlie Hebdo — the audience’s response.

It is of course in the interests of a representative of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee to exaggerate the hatred and difficulties faced by Muslims in Europe, because these unrepresentative community groups derive their moral authority from claiming to speak on behalf of a beleaguered, victimised minority.

So they’re inexorably drawn towards ratcheting up the victim narrative, to trawling for more and more examples of slights against Muslims, to treating as ‘Islamophobia’ everything from a scurrilous cartoon that mocks Muhammad (not ordinary Muslims) to a newspaper article that describes Osama bin Laden as an ‘Islamic terrorist’ (seriously). Because victimology is their fuel; it sustains their outfits and boosts their standing in public life. There’s a logic — a perverse logic — to their hysterical claims about widespread Muslim-hate.

But the audience at last night’s debate was not part of any cynical, self-styled community group. They were young. They were mainly liberals. They were pretty cool. Some were painfully PC. And yet some of them — a significant chunk of them — cheered Bukhari’s explanation for the Charlie killers’ actions, and applauded his suggestion that my question must have been motivated by racism.

During my speech, students had hollered ‘Shame! Shame!’ when I suggested that Robin Thicke’s ‘Blurred Lines’ should not be banned on campuses. And yet they listened intently, with soft, understanding, patronising liberal smiles on their faces, as Bukhari implied that Charlie Hebdo brought its massacre on itself. This is how screwed-up the culture on Western campuses has become: I was jeered for suggesting we shouldn’t ban pop songs; Bukhari was cheered for suggesting journalists who mock Muhammad cannot be surprised if someone later blows their heads off.

It provided a glimpse into the inhumanity of political correctness. The PC gang always claim they’re just being nice; it’s just ‘institutionalised politeness’, they say. Yet at Trinity last night I saw where today’s intolerance of offence and obsession with Safe Spacing minorities from difficult ideas can lead: to an agreeable nod of the head when it is suggested that it’s understandable when poor, victimised Muslims murder those who offended them.

No, a PC student at such a prestigious college as Trinity is very unlikely to kill you for being offensive. But if someone else does, they won’t be outraged or upset. They’ll think you had it coming. Nice? Polite? Please. Political correctness is murderous.

You can read Brendan O’Neill’s speech at Trinity here.


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  • MikeF

    “magazine that rails against the far right and prejudiced politicians”. I will defend the right of any publication to say what it wants but that sentence highlights the inconsistency in Charlie Hebdo’s outlook – the fact that it fails to recognise that the real threat to freedom of speech and conscience today comes from the left. It is something that you Mr O’Neill appear to have some recognition of but not yet quite enough.

  • amoorhouse

    You should cut Bukhari some slack. After all Mossad keeps stealing his shoes. Maybe the students felt sorry for him.

  • sammy jones

    Anyone know if the debate is coming on youtube?Would rather watch myself instead of taking the words of someone who seems he has been chewing some sour grapes for truth.

  • sammy jones

    Just goes to show you can say clearly that those journalists did not deserve to be killed but it makes no difference if you are not on the “right” side you will be called a terrorist apologist and your point of view will be twisted changed and ridiculed.In the name of Free speech as well, its a joke and a very old joke at that. Same old same old.

  • pes nevim

    I live in the Czech Rep where, presently, you can discuss what you want to discuss as they had plenty of time where they couldn’t do such a thing. Anyway, I was chatting with a young Swedish medical student and asked him how he felt about accepting 80k economic migrants/refugees in Sweden. He literally looked over his shoulder before he spoke and said he can only say how he really feels here, as at home PC has become a political tool enforced by the state and does not allow dissent from state line.
    He seemed really sad that his country is being destroyed and that if you mention the horrendous rape rises and immigrant on Swede crime over the last 10 years in, for example, Malmo the cry of raciiiist would go up. Here was a very intelligent and liberal young man silenced in his super liberal homeland and only free to speak in an ex-commie country.
    I really hope the general present contempt for PC in central and eastern Europe will continue, they were told how they could speak and think for a very long time and they definitely don’t like it.

  • anotherjoeblogs

    When is he off to Dubai then ? I thought he had enough of islamophobia here in limbo-dancing, backward bending, walking on egg shells spinelessistan ?

  • Muttley

    I hope to god these students grow up one day. Students have always held stupid views because the young have no perspective on life, but such idiocy usually didn’t survive an encounter with the real world when they finally entered it. Now, immaturity seems to extend well into adult life and PC prejudices don’t seem to be tempered by reason as they used to be.

  • jeffersonian

    ‘What a cheap, reactionary shot: shut down criticism by playing the racism card.’

    That’s what these people always do – since they don’t have an intellectual or logical leg to stand on.

  • derram

    Saw some protesters up in Canada recently. They were protesting a lecture by an equality group that has a focus on men’s issues as well as women’s, so of course the protesters were accusing them of rape apology.

    When asked why they wouldn’t debate instead of protesting and pulling fire alarms, one of the protesters said “Because you’re violent and we’re protecting ourselves from that violence.”

    So now debating ideas feminism disagrees with is violence, saying “Anita is a liar” is cyberviolence, and disagreeing with feminists is harassment.

    After spending all this time dehumanizing their opponents, they’re automatically assuming those opponents are violent towards feminists. Because they were discussing ideas.

    This is how you wind up with state sponsored massacres.

  • cartimandua

    There is a modern problem with the new ubiquity of media and what people are now learning through sheer repetition.
    The 9/11 conspiracy theories are a classic as is “they had it coming”. Its a retreat from rational post Enlightenment thinking.
    He was cheered for saying the journos had it coming? Cheered by what psychos?
    What was the student population attending?

  • cartimandua

    I was with you until you had to have a crack at women. You just cannot help yourself. A pop song about rape is also nasty. Its not free speech either.
    What many seem to ignore is that human beings learn, The students have learned that “little brown people” (the inherent racism of lower standards) have excuses for any evil action.
    They have learned they are not fully adult responsible human beings.
    The Internet has changed free speech but yes the racism of excusing the actions of non white westerners is indeed murderous.

    • Zalacain

      “(the inherent racism of lower standards)”. Very good point. Not mentioned often enough.

  • Acleron

    To suspend the right to free speech for any reason is reprehensible. If your position or belief is so weak it cannot stand dissent then you should question your own beliefs not resort to violence.

    To succumb to the threat of violence is understandable but wrong in itself and wrong because it is counterproductive.

    Why are well educated students rejecting free speech? Well one reason is the cowardly response of the media of all political stripes in the aftermath of Rushdie and now Charlie Hebdo.

    That some in the left, who should know better, are so supine is only part of the problem.

  • Kristof Van Hoeven

    This is exactly what drew me away from the far left. The almost immediate response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre from many liberals was ‘just because you have freedom of speech doesn’t mean you should exercise it’. This was the defining full stop of my passion for all what I thought was right.

    Any respect for those murdered in the massacre as well as free speech was very thin on the ground after the incident – this was very disturbing. My friend who has a doctorate in politics and had written for the Guardian, tried to justify the attacks by saying Charlie Hebdo’s humour “punched downward instead of upward”

    I’m a goddamn delivery driver with no degree and it shocks me how out of touch academics in the West are becoming – is this our future? PC totalitarianism? No doubt I’d be ridiculed or ignored for even mentioning so “stupid”

    • http://paulweston101.blogspot.com Paul Weston

      Goddam delivery drivers without degrees should think themselves lucky they managed to avoid the indoctrination centres that are now our universities – common sense, morality and decency are not values instilled in such North Korean style camps! George Orwell had a great deal to say about the so called intelligentsia and they are far worse now than they were then.

  • Maureen Fisher

    The spineless surrender of the hard left to Islamofascism is truly a shameful phenomenon. I suppose we shouldn’t be that surprised that they have so much in common since they are both equally intolerant and authoritarian in outlook.

  • sob3k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR4Na1Rshjo

    Asghar Bukhari getting bashed on sky news

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      “Asking the wrong facts” what a tool Asghar Bukhari is.
      Why do dumb fcks like this get airtime?

      • Zalacain

        So that we can see that they are dumb fcks.

    • sammy jones

      Douglas is a bigot Asghar lays it down here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30arXb-GEg

  • Davedeparis

    But yes Paul you are correct. In turn, David Horowitz in the US and years ago BA Santamaria in Australia, were also correct to identify that the true centre of gravity are the places of higher learning. Reform of the University system is essential for the survival of western civilization. Abolishing tenure would be the best measure we could take to restore freedom of expression and rational debate on campus.

  • Davedeparis

    In “Terror and Liberalism”, Paul Berman explains how so-called “liberals” cannot understand how anyone could not be like them and so fail to recognise brutish fascistic death cults for what they are. Instead they imagine that their violence must be a reasonable reaction to a great injustice of some sort. The more extreme the violence then logically the more sympathy the perpetrators deserve. Add to this there self loathing that extends to anything remotely western and one can see how the very worst crimes quickly whip them up into a self righteous blood lust.

  • Mark Buckley

    Tough shit Paul.

  • Mac Tíre

    Whats strange is that people seem surprised this character garnered support at this so called debate.

  • whatever name

    The Tories are all total TRAITORS like the Labour Party. They have flooded us with immigrants. Lets make the Tories and Labour PAY for their TREASON.

    NO SURRENDER TO THE LIB-LAB-CON. LETS MAKE ALL THE TRAITORS PAY THE JUST PRICE.

    We have already lost our country, lets make the traitors pay now. Hit them all with anything that you can. NOW is the time to make them all pay to the utmost.

    Hit them with everything.

    • Mongo Part II

      how do you suggest we make them pay?

      • whatever name

        Use your imagination chicken boy.

        • Mongo Part II

          OK…… voting UKIP?

          • whatever name

            Islamic State make you look like poofters. That is what you are. Poofer boy. We have already lost our country you wanker.

            • Mongo Part II

              IS don’t like poofters very much I gather – that’s why they throw them off buildings

              • whatever name

                The English are wankers and cowards. We have already lost our country. You are shit on IS shoe. Oh god is this a jew boy giving mouth when all is lost. Welcome to England.

                • Mongo Part II

                  are you another SNP Jock knuckle dragger?

                • whatever name

                  RIP England and the English. RIP

                • Mongo Part II

                  OK Slaveheart – keep whining and one day you’ll get your precious freeeeedom

                • whatever name

                  One day you will be dead.

                • Mongo Part II

                  deleting all your posts – how cowardly. it’s no fun when it’s not among pros right?

                • whatever name

                  (no reply to traitors)

  • Jane McDonnell

    Idiots,, they have no idea what they are being led into with eyes wide shut.

  • Sol Ad

    Hey I’m Brendan O’neill – staunch defender and advocate of free speech, no matter who it offends. Read my whiney article about how upset i am about what someone said one time. My pieces are tantamount to tabloid journalism and i always tackle the most controversial issues. Please suck on the end of my ball point pen won’t you all?

    • Mongo Part II

      weak attempt

      • Sol Ad

        what are we talking, 2/10? 3?

        • Mongo Part II

          2 maximum

          • Sol Ad

            for the internet thats not too bad! thats a solid 7/10 from my mum; she thinks I’m special…

            • Mongo Part II

              then you should be in bed at this hour, little fascist. Get mum to tuck you in

              • Sol Ad

                well, thanks for your personal opinion on a personal opinion. I’m starting to wonder whether that is actually “grumpy cat” as your avatar or just your actual face… I think we both know neither of us should be awake at this ungodly hour my furry friend, nonetheless i shall heed your advice and hit the hay

    • Realismista

      pathetic! come back and try harder next time: 0/10 (I’m an old-fashioned marker)

    • nicnac

      I’d like to invite you to suck on the end of your own ball point pen.

  • NotYouNotSure

    Let me be very blunt here, free speech is not some universal culture that is yearned by most. It is in fact rare to find societies that see it is some kind of right, Anglo Saxon culture is one of them. When you open the doors to world don’t act surprised that this no longer is held in value. Also PC did not start with Muslims, it started earlier, guess which group thought it was good idea to start banning criticism of them ?

    • Mongo Part II

      Christians?

  • Removes Kebabs

    What happens when someone massacres some of these leftist for their perceived racism and their constant and vicious attacks and slander against people?. Will they cheer the murder of their peers because they themselves marginalized a group and insulted them?

    The trend towards victim culture and the insanity of the PC left must be stopped. If it is not history will be vindicated as the pendulum of societal extremes comes screaming back towards the right while the smug smiles and casual racism and sexism of the left turns into caterwauling and screams.

  • Uplighter

    Recommended ‘Blurred Lines':
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz-OMn1o22Y

  • Margot5000

    Please support the Jesus and Mo books. They are sorely needed now.

  • deb black

    As a friend just pointed out to me: “Defending the principle of free speech is better than defending a minority … because, with a minority or a majority for that matter, you never really know who you are defending.”

  • http://www.zpub.com/notes/idle.html TNT

    Asghar Bukhari is the inbred loon who took to Facebook and YouTube to claim that MOSSAD had stolen his shoe. (Which he later found.) I think we know everything there is to know about him, and the lightbulb-dimming stupidity of his supporters.

  • lorriman

    For me, free speech is all about protecting and expanding liberty; it’s not there for its own sake nor so that we can offend people. Charlie Hebdo are fanatics unconcerned with liberty. Sure, let free speech be a legal right, but if someone smacks you in the mouth for comparing their mother to a dog, then it’s time to be magnanimous. Also, with Charlie Hebdo, not just lack of respect but actual disrespect….time to be magnanimous about the inevitable consequences, Charlie. There was no need, after all.
    Free speech means the State shouldn’t prosecute you, but that doesn’t mean you don’t deserve a smack in the chops.

    • Sue Smith

      It is simply a matter of degree….one man’s ‘smack in the chops’ is another’s ‘massacre’.

    • Mongo Part II

      ‘Charlie Hebdo are fanatics unconcerned with liberty.’

      ‘Islamists are fanatics unconcerned with liberty.’

      fixed that for you. Did you make a genuine typo, or are you another murder-condoning RoP apologist?

      • lorriman

        Perhaps you didn’t appreciate the irony. There was no need to ‘fix’ what was just fine.

    • ahmed

      People have a right to protest when insulted, or take legal action etc. But to smack people in the chops, slap, thump, scratch should not be condoned ever – even if the pope says its alright. Imagine all the things you couldn’t read if it hadn’t been for satirists (good and bad). I remember the uproar when Life of Brian came out (great film) – Malcolm Muggereridge (and a bishop i can’t remember) grilled John Cleese and Michael Palin as though they were school boys. Thats as bad as it got,

      • lorriman

        Life of Brain was boring and should have been banned for that.
        In many countries (and most of history), it’s not just that their mother is much loved, but that she risked her life to give birth. Do you think that, though they are not robots, they should be jailed for ‘protesting’ the insult with their fists? And what about God? Who in Chrstianity is so pained by the sin of the first parents that he incarnates and suffers a humiliating death by torture to save all humanity? Do you think a verbal protest is sufficient for blasphemy?

        • ahmed

          Lots of people have suffered because of accusations of ‘blasphemy’. Many in history have suffered
          as a result of pious priests. Most books on the airport shelves are boring, religious texts too – I don’t think they should be banned. Yes I do think verbal protest is sufficient – i’m not a fan of the notion of ‘blasphemy’ as there seems to be nasty violent types that police this. In Europe and America, women were burned at the stake… and look what happens now in a country like Saudi Arabia right now

          • lorriman

            I’m not talking about banning and burning. See my original post.

  • stag

    Sad, but unsurprising.

    You were a white-skinned man arguing against a brown-skinned man. An oppressor arguing against a victim. Bukhari was right, the scales were tipped – but not against him. You were bound to lose.

  • Italy GG

    These people don’t realize that if they had their rights to offend revoked they would not be able to cheer about Charlie Hebdo massacre.
    They are truly convinced that if they remove free speech, only that of their oppositors will be removed.
    If right to offend was revoked for a week we’d have jails stuffed with all those feminists and BLM folks who spend their days making racist/sexist statements against whites/males.

  • Ambientereal

    I don´t understand why so much discussion. If someone feels offended by anyone, then the way is to go to the justice.

    • Sten vs Bren

      Waste of money if only offended.

      • Sue Smith

        No. Wait. We have legislation in Australia which specifically invites people to prosecute, through discrimination laws, anyone who is “offended” by anyone else. Meanwhile, the rest of us mugs who didn’t get into the legal profession on the ground with all this are the real losers!!

      • Ambientereal

        Some harmless comments of me in “Die Zeit”have been deleted. I want to know why. I didn´t use insults and even the subject of the news was quite simple.
        2015-10-02 20:46 GMT-03:00 Disqus :

    • Mongo Part II

      if everybody sued everybody else everytime they were offended… good grief

      • Sue Smith

        That is PRECISELY what is happening!!! I’m only sorry I didn’t send all my kids to law school so they could make real cash out of all this.

      • Ambientereal

        Oh! Then it is better to kill everybody that offends you? You see? we are supposed to be “civilized” but we are worse than prehistoric people. We become more and more barbaric….incredible!!!

  • Sue Smith

    Of course nobody is going to “take my point” in this kind of rabble. These lefty extremists and self-justifiers are simply going to shout, “hey – look over there!”. It’s not like they’re completely transparent, or anything.

  • Velo

    On Thursday, an Israeli mother and father were shot dead in a terror attack by Islamists. The victims’ names are Eitam and Naama Henkin. Their 4 children were in the car during the attack. Why has this been ignored by the press in Europe?

    • Realismista

      i’m sorry to say that the European press ignores a hell of a lot in Europe.

      It has largely ignored:

      — the rapes, the child abuse and enforced prostitution that has been taking place in some of the German refugee, sorry, migrant camps in recent weeks;

      — the intimidation of Christians by Muslims in the camps which has resulted in Christians having to hide evidence of their faith because of fear of violence;

      — the fact that German riot police have had to be drafted in to control riots in some of the camps and have used tear gas (something that caused outrage throughout the world’s press when done by Hungarian border guards);

      — the fact that the German police have told women living near these camps to dress “modestly” and not go out at night alone;

      — the fact that the police are trying to keep the facts about what is going on in the camps quiet;

      — the fact that the father of that boy who was washed up onto that beach and photographed was, according to a woman on the same boat who also lost a child, a people trafficker.

      Welcome to the way in which the European press operates along PC lines and is very reluctant to tell the truth about what is going on in European cities and in European prisons, particularly when it comes to devotees of the Religion of Peace.

  • Louise

    “The man on the other side who implied thatCharlie Hebdo got what it deserved.” Charlie Hebdo was/is a disgusting outfit. But I don’t believe it “got what it deserved.”

  • T E

    If they won’t kill you, you can’t call them murderous you dumbass

  • Mc

    “Why are students now cheering about the massacre at Charlie Hebdo?”

    Because far too many on the Left believe that murderous tyranny is justifiable if it is employed to achieve their objectives.

  • Sean L

    You’re the wrong colour mate. End of.

  • serialluncher

    They think anti-Semitism and “islamophobia” is morally equivalent; ergo Islam should have protection. They’re clearly too thick to understand that criticising Judaism as a religion is not anti-Semtism.

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