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[–]ColdEiric 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

I love these FRs from the recently unplugged guys. Compared to the rest of the non-approved posters, the recently unplugged write much rawer and truer posts. These kinds of posts are so Hemingway.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

These kinds of posts are so Hemingway.

I'll take that any day.

also, I'm not recently unplugged, but I might as well be. its been 2 years since I discovered TRP, but I guess part of me has wanted to believe the Big Lie, and I'm generally slow to adopt any belief system anyways. But, this day just took it all out of me. it was a doozie for sure

That being said, I'm convinced. I'm going to start fully applying the principles and stop making excuses. That's for damn sure.

[–]ColdEiric 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess TRP is about being Hemingway. Drinking, boxing, women, writing, Truth, being bold and manly, and so on.

[–]mugatucrazypills 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

hemmingway was a faggot commie that like to play war on a fishingboat tosing grenades at fish while real men were fighting the japs, then he ate a gun while living back in his moms' basement because he couldn't bench a crate of apples and was blue pill bitching about having become such a broken down drunk he couldn't even write for the shitty toronto star anymore.

you obviously have him mistaken for one of his characters

[–]Joesatx 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

Quick question from a noob (<24 hrs on this sub) about event 3: "Guy lives with his mom; lies about having a pimpin' loft/job to get laid"

I get the idea of Machiavellian manipulation in the sense of NLP and/or 'faking it til you make it' (alpha behavior-wise), and some of the stuff I've seen on TRP so far, which I really get, centers around becoming the man that gets what he wants (tail, LTR, etc) such as hitting the gym, going to school, starting the business.....but event 3 just seems to describe a pussy who is just lying about achievements to get laid instead of making them reality and getting laid based upon his improved real-life situation.

What am I missing here? Is it just the fact that he's only looking to get laid, vs an LTR that makes that a valid strategy? (I SERIOUSLY doubt he'd manage an LTR by initially lying about all that, then taking her home to his basement at ma's house, and telling her to visit him at his lunch break at McDonalds, when she thinks he's a successful professional with marble countertops).

Thanks!

[–]DPestWork 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good eye man. He's getting what he wants, but only for a minute and will be caught, probably establish himself as a liar, it's a foolish way to go about life. Just wait till he lies to the wrong chick and he wakes up dickless or his tires are slashed and she claims it was rape. He should grow up and get a real job and a real place if he wants to play that way.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is absolutely no way it would work for an LTR. You can't build a relationship on faulty ground like that. He is only lying to get laid and move on.

[–]B_uckets 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

lying about achievements to get laid instead of making them reality

You don't get a $300,000+ apartment overnight. It's gonna take a couple years. Why not get some action in the meantime?

Swearing off pussy because you think "I don't deserve it yet" is just stupid.

[–]Fulp_Piction 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You don't need a 300k apartment to get laid, unless you've got a gold-digger fetish.

[–]B_uckets 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you read the part we're referring to?

"I have a loft in (insert nice neighborhood), but its being renovated, you know, marble countertops."

Loft. Nice neighborhood. Worth installing marble countertops. That's probably $300k easy.

Also, a $300k place would scare gold-diggers away faster than herpes. That doesn't get you much in any nice areas.

[–]Fulp_Piction 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not attacking you, don't take it personally. This is a place for discussion.

It's ironic that you would berate me for not reading the point of your comment, whereas you've ignored the point of mine and chosen to instead talk about how much it takes to fuck gold diggers. That has nothing to do with anything.

You've used a tactic a lot of people use when they perceive a personal attack and clutch at straws to defend themselves, try to recognize it when you do it and when you see others use it.

I'll repeat my point for you, in case you misread it: You don't need money to get laid. The only thing you need to get laid is the right frame of mind.

[–]Fulp_Piction 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Came here to say this. Chicks don't dig liars, what kind of man has to lie about his achievements? It's an incredibly beta trait and screams weakness & insecurity.

While it is working for him, for now, it will all fall to shit eventually when he runs out of women or one of them (or a white knight 'friend') see's through his lies and tells everybody in the world, cause bitches & betas do that thing.

Reputation is everything, guard it with your life.

[–]1Jaereth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can kind of see your point, but there's this. I read that it's like 4 months into a LTR before a couple will be completely "honest" with each other. I don't think it screams weakness and insecurity. Basically, if you are sleeping with a chick within the first 4 months of meeting her (probably 99% of all U.S. sexual encounters) you are lying. At some point in time from first meeting her to hooking, both parties will be lying. It's just the way it is.

it will all fall to shit eventually when he runs out of women

Unless you live in a little farm town that will probably never happen.

(or a white knight 'friend') see's through his lies and tells everybody in the world,

If you are spinning plates right this will be of no consequence. Don't let hook ups into your social circles and vice versa.

[–]TheReformist94 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't matter if he lies,to get laid,or whatever.i see nothing wrong with pretending to want an ltr to get sex.women obtain commitment and withhold sex and lie al the time,so its fair game. Amoral works both ways,for women and men.cant play fair with a cheat,especially in the lop sided economy sex is. You have nothing to gain being honest with a slut

[–]nantucketghost 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

What I've learned about your lesson 4 over the years is this: It only works if you are willing to follow the threat through. You can't be a pussy (beta) and make an idle threat. That will never work. But if you're truly alpha, you're the person that can make the threat that you don't need the girl, can leave and move on with life.

You need to make that line and be willing to step over it and walk out that door.

Train them early in the relationship, let them know that you don't NEED them. Little things like if there's an argument early in the relationship just say "if you don't like it, you know where the door is. But if you walk out, don't ever come back." Hold frame and just move forward like nothing happened. If you beg her, she's the one with power and she will abuse it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

This. I literally walked out of an event and walked home when a plate did something I didn't like the other day. She immediately calls me twice and then came over and gave me a blowjob like her life depended on it.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's an important point, you have to be willing to actually walk. Its easier said than done. But definitely a must if you want to actually establish frame and dominance.

[–]dancing_junkie 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Had a recent plate tell me "You treat me like a child! We'll besides the part where you fuck me".

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

its fucked up but there's a reason some chicks call their guy "daddy", and even say "fuck me daddy". Like think about it, thats some fucked up Freudian psychology, pedophile type shit. whatever, I'm not gonna question the order of things.

[–]NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you interpret "daddy" not as "biological source of my DNA", but as "strong figure who protects and takes care of me", it makes perfect sense.

[–]clint_bronson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly, daddy as in the leader and supperior figure.

[–]DPestWork 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those lines make me feel like a pedo bear, even if it isn't coming from another girl half my age! But seriously, I usually block the daddy pet names out.

[–]yaardi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about "baby", used by both men and women?

[–]DPestWork 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You treat me like a child" quickly turns into a realization that they practically need you and turn into the situation from Ex 4's Lessons. They proclaim loyalty and exclusivity to you for begin such a helluva man, and don't really care what you do when they aren't around. Just don't slip up and say it back, unless you mean it.

[–]JeanValjean197o 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lessons learned from Events 1 and 2: who do chicks like to fuck? Drug dealers and star athletes. Not burgeoning intellectuals. not aspiring scientists. no. They like to fuck drug dealers who put them in danger, and are probably going to die or go to jail. They also like to fuck football players, who are basically wrecking their ability to think by smashing their heads into each other.

Well, technically, you said she was trying to fuck you when you turned her down.

You should've covered up and smashed the shit out of that pussy.

I mean, she tried to fuck someone else but he (you) turned her down. I bet a lot of "nice guys" just don't get it when a girl wants to fuck him. Or in your case, decided to have some scruples.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah, good point. But that's because I've found RP, and I lift, and I'm attractive, and I am decent with words. I have fun.

These drug dealers and football players are usually total dingbats. Dunces. But they're getting laid. The guys that are putting in the hours at the library to learn physics or medicine or law are not going to get laid just by virtue of their studies or their potential. Whereas, the moronic athletes get laid simply because they're athletes. And that pisses me off. Not because I'm hurting, I'm doing good enough. No, its just because, these hot chicks are rewarding stupidity and risky behavior, whereas they completely shun the gentlemen that are going to create the future.

I might be seeing the past through a rose colored lens, but back in the day, a desirable woman settled down at a relatively young age with a productive, successful or potentially successful man, and she stuck it out with him.

Honestly, we haven't even seen the full effects of the current dynamic. So many dudes are already dropping out or forgoing college, because it just doesn't pay off as far as getting pussy.

Another effect: if a guy is poor and wants to climb to the top (other than athletics or music), he's going to have to spend so much time alone and working on his craft and ignoring women while ignorant stupid fucksticks pound that pussy. And the man who dug himself out of the trenches by studying and working his ass off is left with the leftovers. SO, in effect, I think economically disadvantaged men are going to start checking out of the rat race, and men with privilege are going to just going to waltz into their high powered positions with little competition from the underdogs.

[–]Saiserit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a burgeoning intellectual with marble countertops does this mean I should tell them I live with my mom?

[–]tomdanksthethird 4ポイント5ポイント  (17子コメント)

I got to staring becoming better at lying.

Anyways thanks for the post. Very helpful.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (16子コメント)

you're welcome. me too. it works wonders

[–]tomdanksthethird 2ポイント3ポイント  (15子コメント)

I have a quick question, im assuming lying only works with hook ups. (I.e bangs them within the first week of meeting them.)

If your dating them your more likely to get caught, no?

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 7ポイント8ポイント  (14子コメント)

absolutely. in fact, one could argue that when people are meeting each other at a bar, they're all lying. they're all putting on their best show. The girls put on makeup, the guys wear their best threads, and everyone tells their most interesting stories, and laughs at each other. Nobody talks about their flaws. So everyone is lying in a sense, in that they're not telling the full truth, and they're emphasizing only certain things. My friend though, he just straight up lies. I don't do that, maybe I should though.

People only learn who each other truly are when you actually get into a relationship. That's where the "crazy" comes out.

[–]baystreetballing 3ポイント4ポイント  (11子コメント)

Lurker here.

I live in my moms basement and will be here for thr next few years.

This is the one thing that absolutely destroys my game/confidence. How do i lie about this without getting caught in a web of lies?

Lets say you only plan on hooking up, ie fuck them within thd first week of meeting them and then never calling them again.

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

First off, why do you care if you get caught in a web of lies? You did lie. Own it. Shrug your shoulders, smirk, and walk off into the sunset.

Lying is usually better than not lying, but if you're lying to get laid, and you get caught, own it, and laugh at yourself. After all, what do you care? There are always other girls.

If you're sufficiently non-apologetic you might even keep the girl interested in you.

[–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about just being unapologetic about living in your mom's basement? If you pay rent, I don't see why its an issue. And even if you don't pay rent, you could always lie about it.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't know. I don't lie in my game, because I suck at lying. But my buddy just straight up says his prehearsed lines, and I guess if they ask for details you just have to go with it.

I'm not really qualified to give advice on lying because I don't do it.

Also, why can't you move out?

[–]baystreetballing 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Huge student loans, and my parents dont make me pay rent.

Ive been told i have an awesome body as i bodybuild as a hobby for the last few years. I feel like if i can lie and bang then within the first week of meeting her, than i can lie about my current unemployment and living with parents.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

well your situation is understandable. a lot of people our age are living at home for the same reasons.

[–]DPestWork 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like 'tard said... it's pretty damn common. Don't let it hold you back. I sometimes hesitate before saying "let's go to my place out in..." The reputation of the town I bought a house in is pretty bad, but by the time I reveal my location, it doesn't even matter. If you have your own bedroom, you should be good. Make yourself a valuable part of the household (do ALL of the yardwork, chores, start cook) and say you take care of your parents.

[–]DPestWork 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't practice lying. That's what bitches do. You really want to borrow from the female play book? Pretty soon you'll be on pinterest, adding "Live Laugh Love" to your signature, and posting drama and attention whore memes on FB.
If you want to stay there, stay and make the most of it. If you want to move out, work hard and get the hell out of their house. The confidence boost from accomplishing your goals will have profound effects.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah that's honestly a much better idea

[–]B_uckets 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It won't matter unless you're trying to start a long-term relationship with the girl, so who gives a fuck?

You got what you wanted, if she decides to leave it's not your loss. If you think it is your loss, you're not getting it yet.

[–]DPestWork 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you're telling me here that TRP is full of guys who cant close without faking it? Some of my early mentors didnt fake shit. I act exactly the same the first night as the 20th night. The only faking on my end is how interested I am in her crazy shopping habits or childhood stories. So I steer the conversation away from situations that require such fallacies. Honesty gets me laid and more, much more often than a lot of people on here think.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, I'm not saying TRP is full of liars and fakers. I myself am not one. But, TRP does acknowledge that Dark Triad is a valid strategy, and part of being a machiavellian psychopath is lying through your teeth and being good at it. its not a strategy I can pull off.

[–]Hawadleh 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is truly a red pill day for you. This proven to me that all red pill theories are TRUE.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really was. It just kind of happened. I don't believe in fate or any of that shit, but it seemed like the universe was sending me a message.

[–]SrPildoraRoja 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty solid, man. Good examples and clear writing.

[–]fuckin_retard[S,🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it

[–]bl33dingr3d 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Go hang out with married couples now. Holy shit will your eyes be opened to how the modern woman expects her husband to hop to her commands but then passive aggressively resents him for it...all the while making eyes at you if you're fit.

Swallowing the Red Pill is the greatest/worst mental transformation for a modern BP man. On one hand you've been liberated from the fog of feminism, free to slay poon with pride. On the other, women's motives become so obvious and they will never cease to amaze you with their natural ability to manipulate and deceive.

[–]1Jaereth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go hang out with married couples now. Holy shit will your eyes be opened to how the modern woman expects her husband to hop to her commands but then passive aggressively resents him for it

Yeah, anyone starting thinking about TRP should do this.

I look at my friends from school that got married super early and the only impression I get from it is "Cool man, you wasted your fucking twenties with one girl you don't even like that treats you like shit".

I know maybe one guy who got married where I think (outside looking in) "Ok, this guy probably has a pretty good home life with his wife". Where the other 20+ seem absolutely miserable. Play your odds on that.

[–]pdtrading 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a great FR. You cover so many things along the line of attracting the girls. Such as keeping your frame, They go for the dangerous and alpha guy. Its sad, but being a good provider means your the guy they settle for at times.

[–]mugatucrazypills 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're a completely shallow hedonist who can't think beyond this afternoon I think Drug Dealer is a great choice in partner.

1) Drugs 2) Tingle Inducing ManDanger(tm)

good post though

[–]Tarnsman4Life 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

My good friend tells me he's been slaying pussy like never before. He's always been good, but he said he's been on fire recently. I recently met one of his plates and she is a bombshell. How does he do it? Well, amongst other things, he straight up lies to these bitches. He lives with his mom, but he's been telling these chicks "I have a loft in (insert nice neighborhood), but its being renovated, you know, marble countertops." He also lies about his profession. Then he goes to their place and fucks them. He's not even a bad guy, one of the best guys I know to be honest. He just knows the game.

In New Jersey they want to make that "rape by deception". How dare you fool some innocent slut "snow flake" into fucking you believing she can milk you dry for your millions!

[–]yaardi 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

"rape by deception"

Obviously a man couldn't claim he was "raped by deception" if she presents herself as a good girl™

[–]Tarnsman4Life 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's New Jersey, what do you expect?

[–]Phyzis -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good honest fr but don't act like you're in a position to be giving advice. Lying is weak shit and yes, can lead to short term victories but should be avoided.