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[–]UrButtMyFace__Wait 111ポイント112ポイント  (12子コメント)

But Fonda don't got motor in da back of her honda

[–]Garconanokin 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

Now, tell us about your snake

[–]Barteringram 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

It don't want none.

Unless, of course, you happen to possess buns, hun.

[–]themikeswitch 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

You can do side bends or sit ups, but please don't lose that butt.

[–]sloaninator 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

Actually Sir Mixes A Lot there's clear evidence that spot reduction is a myth and fat must be lost as a whole you cannot choose where it comes off from simply by doing certain exercises, even though the appearance of muscle can lead some to believe that it does.

[–]themikeswitch 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't ruin my silliness with facts

[–]jorellh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://beatsyouup.ytmnd.com

[–]bobers654 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally read half of it to the beat before realizing it probably wasnt meant for that.

[–]Raff001 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/fitness

[–]MonkeyDCody 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just call me Jane Fondle myself

[–]Syliss1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This what came to mind immediately.

[–]PM_ME_FRECKLE_PICS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

if the motor was in the back, she'd be a VW.

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    [–]kierkegaardashians 134ポイント135ポイント  (61子コメント)

    Wow, I didn't realize reddit was so... patriotic?

    [–]SpeakLikeAChild04 126ポイント127ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Seriously. People in this thread aren't very Fonda her, are they?

    [–]Pun_Evaluation_Bot 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Better than ~57% of puns

    [–]semwichbender 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Goddamn it i came here with the sole purpose of making that pun and it's gone already

    [–]asshat123456 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    She's a great anti-American piece of ass. No more

    [–]TommySawyer 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The Viet Cong are fonda her.

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      [–]Rizuko 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

      They sound like my conservative father. Apparently the rules of my house (I.e. Don't mention Fonda unless you wanna hear about how horrible she was) also apply to reddit.

      [–]GrandpaRotten 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

      And most of the "Hanoi Jane" posts are by people who's parents weren't even born yet when the war was going on. I'm 60 and I wasn't old enough to go to Viet Nam, yet we suddenly have dozens of guys older than me on here giving a shit? Get the fuck out of here. A bunch of personality starved 20 year old douchebags who want to pretend to be pissed off is even more aggravating than anything Jane said or did.

      [–]ass_cash253 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You're 60 and not old enough to have been in Vietnam? Fucking bullshit. That would make your birth year 1955. The last American troops were pulled out in 1975. Draft age is 18. You very fucking well could've been in Vietnam, for at least 2 years or so, give or take a few months. By your logic, Americans who weren't old enough to serve aren't allowed to feel anger towards a women who cost American POWs their lives? Fuck you. She's a traitor and should've been treated as such.

      [–]virtigo31 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

      She literally got American POWs killed....... Like literally. She called out one prisoner trying to slip her a paper with everyone's ssn on it.

      Yeah, she's garbage.

      [–]DrPreppy 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I thought that was disproven? What's your source here?

      edit: not defending her, but... that particular story has been called out as being false.

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          [–]atlasimpure 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's not so much the patriotic factor as the betrayal of men in bondage.

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            [–]Brinkibon 48ポイント49ポイント  (7子コメント)

            Non-American here... I feel like I've walked into a lynching.

            [–]Carson369 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Young American here, I have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

            [–]CaptainAssPlunderer 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Read about what she did during the Vietnam war. She supported and aided the country we were at war with. Was very disrespectful to the troops, most Vietnam veterans hate her with a fury that is still white hot to this day.

            [–]LegendLength 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

            She sided with the commies during the vietnam war.

            I'm on the right and dislike her for doing that. But I'm also a big fan of free speech, even in times of war.

            As long as speech doesn't directly promote violence it should be allowed in my opinion.

            I realize in the case of Fonda she may have directly caused some US soldiers to be killed, so if that's the case then that speech was morally wrong by my system. Otherwise people should be allowed to say what they like, offensive or otherwise.

            [–]plazmablu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            British here, any chance someone could explain what all the fuss is?

            [–]UrNotAMachine 93ポイント94ポイント  (66子コメント)

            FWIW she has since apologized for the Hanoi Jane pictures

            I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families. [...] I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft gun, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless.

            Not saying it changes anything or excuses her behavior. I'm just adding some more information to the thread.

            Edit: Actually, I take that back. She fucked up and she's sorry about it. Move on.

            [–]CarrotIronfounderson 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Hey everyone, blame the girl who shittily made jest in an effort to end a horrible war. Don't blame the politicians that started it, forced young men to go, and didn't pull out for way too long! Remember, hate the hippies and draft dodgers! Because they're the bad ones!

            [–]_Dans_ 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

            If you're counting on Americans to read books, rather than look at girly pictures to form opinions regarding war - and the people truly responsible - you're going to have a bad time.

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              [–]Chicken-n-Waffles 18ポイント19ポイント  (41子コメント)

              Not saying it changes anything or excuses her behavior

              I think it does. She was a kid and kids do stupid things. She called herself out and apologized. What more do they want? There's worse that people have forgiven. It's pointless to keep this rhetoric alive.

              [–]the_whore_whisperer 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

              as an adult, I would like to point out the fact that adults also do stupid things

              [–]mr_poppycockmcgee 88ポイント89ポイント  (27子コメント)

              She was 35. 35 years old. That is not being a kid. That's being an adult by well over a decade.

              Also, I'm confused by your use of "rhetoric." It doesn't make sense.

              [–]bongozap 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I've done dumb things at many ages.

              I'm 52. I still do dumb things. I still make mistakes. I still do things I regret. Thank God, I haven't done any of them with reporters and cameramen recording my every move for posterity.

              It's a lot easier for me to admit I was wrong, to apologize and to forgive now than it was when I was younger..

              My dad died in Vietnam. I knew people who were in the Hanoi Hilton. I've never really liked Jane Fonda and I still don't really like most of her movies.

              But she took responsibility for her actions, she explained her motivations (which I believe were honest), she acknowledged the pain she caused, she called out specific things she did and she said she regretted them.

              She apologized. From what I can tell, she is sincere.

              I don't know her. She's not enough of a pop culture presence to annoy me. I don't have to like her.

              But I see no reason to carry any animosity toward her any longer. Even if she hadn't apologized, it's wasted emotion. Being that she has apologized, it would be a pointless one.

              [–]draggingalong 7ポイント8ポイント  (17子コメント)

              we all do things we regret, I hate how reddit looks at celebrities in black-and-white, I've seen it so many times here, and whenever the beatles comes up on reddit now I see: "yeah, but did you know that john lennon beat women?!?!?!" -

              the difference between us and celebrities is that our mistakes aren't broadcast to the entire world

              in reality, if someone does something you disagree with do you automatically imply they're evil and incapable of remorse?

              I personally admire anyone who openly apologizes about fucking up in the past, that shows a lot of self-awareness and personal progress

              and I think s/he was referring to this definition of rhetoric: "language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content." as in 'empty rhetoric' as in, everyone's extreme jane fonda-bashing in this thread is full of empty, hostile rhetoric that doesn't make sense to some of us

              [–]quantic56d 21ポイント22ポイント  (11子コメント)

              Fonda called returning POWs "hypocrites and liars," adding, "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed. ... Pilots were saying it was the policy of the Vietnamese and that it was systematic. I believe that's a lie." https://patriotpost.us/pages/80

              She said these things while sitting an on anti-aircraft gun that was used to shoot down pilots that were being held as POWs a hundred yards away. She was 35.

              Now just imagine if it was ISIS. Still admire her?

              [–]dendybarthemottled 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

              And yet there are 35 year olds who think that Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and that Saddam had WMD. I guess getting suckered by propaganda is only bad if it's the wrong side's?

              [–]quantic56d 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

              What is your argument? That there are idiots in the world? I think we can call that one a definite yes.

              Do they use their fame and power to call POWs hypocrites and liars on the national stage? No. This is what people were pissed about. To put it in a modern context, it's like saying that prisoners being tortured by ISIS are just making it up and people shouldn't be so gullible, and they are just lying about it.

              It really should have ended her career.

              [–]LegendLength 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              and that Saddam had WMD

              Considering he prevented inspections for years before the war it's a kind of forgivable belief is it not?

              [–]JnnyRuthless 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Those people are worthy of loathing as well.

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                [–]riptide81 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I agree as far people being complex and deserving of forgiveness on a personal level. On the other hand, there seems to be this sentiment that once someone is a celebrity they always have to be a celebrity and anything less would be cruel and unusual punishment.

                She has continued to pursue a career that is basically a public popularity contest. She has also continued to voice her opinions on social issues. Those who don't think she deserves the platform shouldn't have to applaud her or remain forever silent.

                Even in this thread there are many learning about her past for the first time.

                [–]mr_poppycockmcgee 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                I don't mean to say that people, and Jane Fonda, can't be remorseful and guilt-ridden, all I'm saying is that she definitely was not a kid when she did that, so the whole "kid's do stupid stuff" doesn't really hold up.

                Okay, I get where's he's going with "rhetoric" but it's still not exactly the right word; there's no rhetoric to begin with. It's more like vestigial bias.

                [–]demonlicious 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                counterpoint; she was a hot blonde, that's got to take away a decade or two on her maturity!

                [–]spittafan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I believe the term he was looking for is "discourse"

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                  [–]UrNotAMachine 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  Yeah. I think you're right, actually. She says she fucked up and she's sorry. I'm gonna change that part.

                  [–]brajohns 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  No one is obligated to give a shit if she's sorry or not. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is the only named crime in the Constitution for a reason. People are right to hold a grudge.

                  [–]UrNotAMachine 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I'm not saying anyone is obligated to accept her apology or forgive her. I personally believe that people have been forgiven for far worse. I'm of the opinion that true remorse won't reverse the damage of one's crime but I'm not going to hold a grudge against her for something she deeply regrets. Feel free to hate her for as long as you see fit, though.

                  [–]popejubal 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  We give aid and comfort to the enemy every day. How much gas do you put in your tank each week. How much gas do I put in my tank each week? How much money does Saudi Arabia pour into terrorist bank account ts each year?

                  Jane Fonda was an idiot. She thought that she was doing the right thing, but she was arrogant and naive. So what's the difference between Jane Fonda and most of the rest of us? She admits that she was naive and arrogant and wrong. Most of the rest of us try to pretend that we aren't naive or arrogant. And God help us, we can't admit when we are wrong.

                  [–]purpleooze 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  People who don't admit it go on acting like idiots.

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                      [–]NEVER_SUBMIT_2_BROKI 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      Except I believe her account of what happened. It was completely blown out of proportion.

                      It happened on my last day in Hanoi. I was exhausted and an emotional wreck after the 2-week visit ... The translator told me that the soldiers wanted to sing me a song. He translated as they sung. It was a song about the day 'Uncle Ho' declared their country's independence in Hanoi's Ba Dinh Square. I heard these words: "All men are created equal; they are given certain rights; among these are life, Liberty and Happiness." These are the words Ho pronounced at the historic ceremony. I began to cry and clap. These young men should not be our enemy. They celebrate the same words Americans do. The soldiers asked me to sing for them in return ... I memorized a song called "Day Ma Di", written by anti-war South Vietnamese students. I knew I was slaughtering it, but everyone seemed delighted that I was making the attempt. I finished. Everyone was laughing and clapping, including me ... Here is my best, honest recollection of what happened: someone (I don't remember who) led me towards the gun, and I sat down, still laughing, still applauding. It all had nothing to do with where I was sitting. I hardly even thought about where I was sitting. The cameras flashed ... It is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese had it all planned. I will never know. But if they did I can't blame them. The buck stops here. If I was used, I allowed it to happen ... a two-minute lapse of sanity that will haunt me forever ... But the photo exists, delivering its message regardless of what I was doing or feeling. I carry this heavy in my heart. I have apologized numerous times for any pain I may have caused servicemen and their families because of this photograph. It was never my intention to cause harm.

                      http://www.janefonda.com/the-truth-about-my-trip-to-hanoi/

                      According to what she said, not only is her apology enough, I honestly don't think it was necessary beyond a simple "it was a misunderstanding"; because from the sounds of it, it was.

                      [–]_Dans_ 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Yup.

                      She got meme'd.

                      Into a Rorschach of everyone's hang-wringing over how we lost that unwinnable quag.

                      /end poli

                      [–]quantic56d 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Oh bullshit:

                      Fonda called returning POWs "hypocrites and liars," adding, "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed. ... Pilots were saying it was the policy of the Vietnamese and that it was systematic. I believe that's a lie." https://patriotpost.us/pages/80

                      [–]-888- 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      "In my anger at the torture story that was being allowed to spread, at how the entire situation was being manipulated, I made a mistake I deeply regret. I said that the POWs claiming torture were liars, hypocrites, and pawns.

                      I said, “I’m quite sure that there were incidents of torture…but the pilots who are saying it was the policy of the Vietnamese and that it was systematic, I believe that’s a lie.”

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                        [–]g-g-g-ghosts 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Yeah pretty much any time she has a new movie or some reason to appear in public she has to apologize all over again.

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                          [–]hummtaut 53ポイント54ポイント  (15子コメント)

                          I wonder if a picture of Henry Kissinger would get as much hate as this...

                          [–]SmoothNicka32 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Post a picture of Steve Harvey on reddit. And bring a fucking raincoat so you don't get soaked in the circlejerk of hate.

                          [–]Straelbora 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That chicklet-teeth clown deserves all the hate.

                          [–]conjectureandhearsay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hate for his physical ugliness. Lots of hate if you're from Chile.

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                            [–]StretchFrenchTerry 64ポイント65ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            ITT: Nam Vets

                            [–]ObamasVasDeferens 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Yeah wtf who knew there were so many Brut-wearing, John Grisham-reading, Easy chair-farting, grizzled old uncles on Reddit. All came out of the woodwork when this hottie hot the front page

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                              [–]joagarc 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I thought this was Nicola Peltz from Bates Motel...and then went back and read the year. But holy shit do they look identical.

                              [–]_Dans_ 25ポイント26ポイント  (10子コメント)

                              Barbarella has to be hottest B movie character of alllll time !!!

                              edit: 3 min trailer. WATCH IT !!!!

                              [–]MeatloafWiz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              So good! Trippy as hell plus fine ass Jane Fonda

                              [–]hansblitz 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I'm not sure what I feel, a main character named dildano? So much beautiful wtf

                              [–]_Dans_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Hah. The guy playing her "pipe organ" is named Doctor Durand Durand. (See how much she likes Beethoven's 9th?)

                              The band took its name from him.

                              edit: correcting Ludwig's movement

                              [–]10tothe24th 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              One of my favorite movies of all time. I got a friend to watch it recently because he loves cheesy movies and sci-fi, expecting we would bond over this flower-child space-adventure masterpiece, but I was shocked at how sexist he thought it was. Sexist!? Because Barbarella dares to have sex and shows some skin? If it was a Bond film, no one would bat an eye if he had sex with multiple partners in a film... actually, they would if he didn't. But Barbarella decides to have sex with more than one man and suddenly she's not a person?

                              I learned that day that my friend was not as progressive as he seemed, he was just a prude.

                              [–]g-g-g-ghosts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              She's also really beautiful in They Shoot Horses Don't They? Especially if you're into sad girls.

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                                [–]unrequited-dream 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                If my dad saw this post, he'd throw his computer off the balcony and go on a rant for 5 minutes about how she's a piece of shit. Yup, he's a Vietnam Vet.

                                [–]NYRangers1313 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                My uncle too he's also a Vietnam Vet. He'd probably smash the computer with a baseball bat. Thankfully he doesn't know about reddit.

                                [–]DJEasyDick 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Ahhh yes, both of your family members would break their computers over a picture on the internet. Thats normal

                                I just showed this to my step dad and he didnt give a fuck

                                Hes also a vet, had a grenade thrown in his tent, jumped out and everyone but him died in that tent...his buddies.

                                He got into a firefight with the people who were left and they fended off the attack. He had a nv soldier run up on him and pull the trigger, he was out, so he bayonetted my step dad in the knee. My step dad was also out of ammo, so he coulsnt shoot...but there was a gun next to him, grabbed it and shot the guy off of him.

                                Wasnt able to walk right ever since. And he doesnt give a fuck about Fonda. He hates the people that sent him and his buddies to war

                                Maybe your guys relatives need meds, or maybe yall should stop bullshitting or pretending to know how they'd feel about this post. It probably isnt as bad as you think. At most they probably just say "fuck that commie"

                                [–]KeetoNet 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Tell your dad he's a bad ass for me. Not just for the obvious stuff, but for knowing which shit matters in life.

                                [–]blomqv 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Fuck yeah, some perspective.

                                [–]MrBojangles007 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                has your dad been to the War Remnants (Crimes) Museum in HCMC? Because its horrible beyond words what the US did in Vietnam. So tell him to get off his high horse, and start apologizing to the people of Vietnam.

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                                  [–]NEVERDOUBTED 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  oh my

                                  [–]UlfricRainCoat 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  I'm really sick of this subreddit being OldSchoolFap.

                                  EDIT: TIL never go to OldSchoolFap.

                                  [–]ChewsOnRocks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I didn't listen. I should have listened.

                                  [–]CombativeAccount 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I am too. Luckily, I had a comment saying something to this effect the other day, and a ton of people agreed with me. They also helpfully indicated that perhaps I would like /r/HistoryPorn, which I totally do. Subbing that in addition to here will net you a pretty good collection of submissions.

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                                    [–]Chobbs74 112ポイント113ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                    Old school traitor.

                                    [–]KillYourTV 75ポイント76ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Old school traitor.

                                    You're right, but let's be clear about what she was a traitor to. Her unforgivable mistake was to put blame on the American soldiers, men and women who didn't have a say in the mission they were given and who were put into deadly situations. That she let herself be used as a pawn by the North Vietnamese is naivete on a criminal level.

                                    But let's not forget that this was an evil war brought on by politicians and war profiteers who never understood (or cared) that the Vietnamese were fighting for their independence. We started out supporting a colonial power, then stayed because of our "anything but communism" ideology. It allowed us to justify bombed civilian locations and lower ourselves to commit war crimes that didn't put us any higher than the enemy we fought. But that's what war like this does: it lowers the moral level of all sides.

                                    [–]LegendLength 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    You ignore the horrible things the north was trying to do, and ended up doing after we left. Happy to supply references.

                                    [–]plentyoffishes 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Not saying Fonda was right with the tank pic but the soldiers still pulled the triggers, lit the villages on fire, and raped the women. This is all documented. I agree the politicians are scum for sending them to this ridiculous, pointless war, but they can't be let off the hook either.

                                    [–]OptimusMine 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    YOU TELL 'EM, DAD!!!

                                    [–]Skank2dis1 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Yes, true, but would you hit that though!?

                                    [–]_yawn_ 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    Hanoi Jane. Absolute trash.

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                                      [–]EPIC_BOOOBS 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                      Because Hollywood runs on pure talent, not who your parents are.

                                      [–]cheekybeeboo 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      I think she's a legitimately good actress. Watch Klute if you're ever in any doubt about that. Now her brother Peter on the other hand stinks. Apart from maybe a couple of passable performances, most notably in Easy Rider, he's absolutely awful.

                                      [–]GrandpaRotten 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      And he mooched off of Jane for decades.

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                                        [–]PM_ME_UR_SMALLBOOBz 72ポイント73ポイント  (48子コメント)

                                        Why the down votes for people referring to her as Hanoi Jane? Her being hot doesn't excuse her actions.

                                        [–]Chicken-n-Waffles 17ポイント18ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                        Because this is not /r/politics or /r/history. This is about how cool and hot she was and still is.

                                        [–]rover53 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        I think the argument some people are making is that despite the fact that she's hot and this photo is old school, her actions in the past are not cool.

                                        [–]steve0suprem0 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                        not still hot.

                                        [–]OptimusMine 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Okay Dad.

                                        [–]plentyoffishes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        What were her actions? Posing for a stupid picture in a tank? That's FAR less egregious than the war itself, all the innocent lives that were lost at the hands of US politicians and soldiers pulling the triggers and dropping the bombs.

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                                          [–]jimminyflickit 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          I would like to do the Jane Fonda

                                          [–]AcidHousemate 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          ITT : "HURR DURR HANOI JANE HURR DURR MURICA"

                                          Abandon thread

                                          [–]FelipeDNL 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          You were just waiting for the perfect moment to use that gif weren't you?

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                                            [–]clonebloom 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b8/33/0f/b8330f95f129e57a25e5f3b183b587a7.jpg.

                                            [–]malakon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Dont know bout her politics but shes got a nice pair of hogans.

                                            [–]BroganHemsley 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Jane Fonda, 1970's: http://i.imgur.com/UjwOAva.jpg

                                            [–]chrisac12 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Holy Jesus my grandpa absolutely hates this woman

                                            [–]OneDayIllOwnALambo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            50s was the time to be alive

                                            [–]toomanywheels 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Barbarella!

                                            [–]TheMarraMan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I be smittin'.

                                            [–]X_Static_X 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Jesus

                                            [–]potus_george_clinton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fonda called the returning POWs "hypocrites and liars and pawns", adding about the prisoners she visited, "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed."[43] In addition, Fonda told The New York Times in 1973, "I'm quite sure that there were incidents of torture ... but the pilots who were saying it was the policy of the Vietnamese and that it was systematic, I believe that's a lie."[44] Her visits to the POW camp led to persistent and exaggerated rumors which were repeated widely in the press and continued to circulate on the Internet decades later. Fonda, as well as the named POWs, have personally denied the rumors,[40] and subsequent interviews with the POWs showed these rumored allegations to be false as the persons named had never met Fonda.[42] - yeah, she's great. such a very, brave and powerful woman.

                                            [–]quelques_heures 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            God damn, that girl was gorgeous, though! Man, if I'd been in high-school with her!

                                            [–]rossagessausage 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            WOW.

                                            [–]im_a_naive_idiot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            way hotter than monroe

                                            [–]Eyewatchapplesauce 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Jane Fonda don't got a motor in back of her Honda vtec

                                            [–]DeeznutsbeeatchBallz 17ポイント18ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                            Soldiers in Vietnam really thought highly of her.

                                            [–]CynicalYetOptimistic 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            We need an /r/oldschoolbeautiful

                                            [–]redditor1256 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                            I can't believe the amount of bullshit and lies floating around about Hanoi Jane.

                                            She created radio broadcasts designed to demoralize American troops and convince them to retreat. That was her offense. The rest of it is either unimportant or untrue.

                                            Jane spent her life trying to do the right thing and getting led astray by one bad person after another. She backed the black panthers for Christ's sake, she was clearly retarded!

                                            That said, she did a lot of good in her other philanthropic work and I think she always had her heart in the right place

                                            [–]ConcernedSitizen 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            She created radio broadcasts designed to demoralize American troops and convince them to retreat. That was her offense. The rest of it is either unimportant or untrue.

                                            I think you're conflating Hanoi Jane (Jane Fonda), with Hanoi Hannah, the handful of English-speaking Vietnamese women who broadcast radio shows in an attempt to demoralize US service men.

                                            [–]Oafus 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I think that is the first time I have heard someone levy legitimate criticisms against her while acknowledging that she was not evil incarnate.

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                                              [–]thee_tickler 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              It seems a lot of commenters forgive her for her actions during Vietnam. If she would have said the N word decades ago it would be a totally different story.

                                              [–]blackoutHalitosis 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              WTF are you even saying? Please elaborate! Vietnam was a hugely unpopular war- America's first war that the people didn't rally behind, and an enormous waste of teenage lives- mostly from below the upper-middle class- and tons of them not white. But what does your hypothetical situation of her using a racial epithet have to do with anything at all?

                                              [–]thee_tickler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              The fact she openly supported the people killing those young teenage lives you're talking about?? And I was referring to the fact that her actions are being excused while Paula Dean is chastised for saying the N word about that same amount of time ago. You're defending her actions of being a undeniable propaganda tool used against those teenage lives. While if she had said the N word back then the media and hipsters would call for her head.

                                              [–]kameo747 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Fuck Hanoi Jane.

                                              [–]PleasantSensation 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Oh my god I totally would. I'd fuck her right on the AA gun if she wanted it.

                                              [–]grouchti69 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Fucking Treasonous Whore! DOWNVOTE!!

                                              [–]itsukraits 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Fuck Fonda.

                                              [–]bicyclingfool 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I really thought the top comment would be about what a hottie she was back in the day. Reddit, I've misunderestimated you.

                                              [–]two-wheeler 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Yea, she can go to hell.

                                              [–]Paound_town 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Fuck you, jane!

                                              [–]Fmeinthegoatass 7ポイント8ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                              I can't believe anyone is still upset at her for the Vietnam era stuff. I know it was a big deal at the time, but now we can acknowledge That it was an unnecessary venture. I have family that fought over there and they felt the same.

                                              PS: Commie Babes are hot!

                                              [–]RebelLemurs 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Fucking traitor

                                              [–]xander_man 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              fuck Hanoi jane

                                              [–]BuickMcKane 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Hanoi Jane...

                                              [–]Dreyyy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Piece of shit

                                              [–]MyMoronRadarFoundYou 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I wish I was Catain America back then so I could fuck the communism right out of her.

                                              [–]Y-Not 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              That rack looks just about perfect.

                                              [–]dopplerdog 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              ITT: Proof that the US has learned nothing since Vietnam.

                                              [–]A10_go_BRRRTTT 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                              Fuck Jane Fonda. She's been a traitor since Vietnam.

                                              [–]Xeonflash -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              You mean Hanoi Jane?

                                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Fonda

                                              [–]millertime5309 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Hell ya I would

                                              [–]vivajeffvegas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              2015, still a whore

                                              [–]VACWS -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Fucking Treasonous Whore! DOWNVOTE!!

                                              [–]KwyjiboTheGringo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Now that's a handsome woman.

                                              [–]verafides 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Hanoi jane. Pfft. Killing is killing. She poses in a U.S. aircraft gun and you're all okay.

                                              It's not about the killing, it's about the label on the gun. She got labelled Coke, and you're all Pepsi.

                                              [–]Tom_Bombadilf -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                              She's great. Fuck the Vietnam apologists. America and Americans should be deeply ashamed of what happened there.

                                              [–]SpitfireIsDaBestFire 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                              Yeah! Fuck the south Vietnamese for wanting to govern themselves as well! The French also had no part in the conflict either, just America!

                                              [–]Brinkibon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Come on. The South Vietnamese government was appealing to the West because it wasn't Communist - not because it was in any way representative of the population. The government and the people were in that instance two very separate entities.

                                              And you're brushing atrocities and a more or less engineered war under the carpet because "the French were involved too!"

                                              Yeah, the constant attacks on America get old after a while. But this war is almost the epitome of why they started - it's not a great topic to take a stand on. I'd say you need to pick your battles better, but if that advice ever worked we might not have gone into Vietnam in the first place.

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