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[–]nonorat 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

If the implication is that it "disintegrated" it did nothing of the sort.

When you watch the actual video, you can see the structure collapse downwards through the dust, which is left briefly suspended behind it.

[–]Redditsuckscaulk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly what happened.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (27子コメント)

[–]Redditsuckscaulk -2ポイント-1ポイント  (26子コメント)

Thermite didn't do that, correct. Gravity did. As the piece of building kept falling to the ground the dust was left in the air. Simple as that.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (25子コメント)

Hahaha That is one dusty-ass building!

House-keeping!!!

[–]Redditsuckscaulk -1ポイント0ポイント  (24子コメント)

You realize the building was just demolished around it, right?

You can see that the piece keeps falling until the camera view is obstructed by the surrounding buildings/dust cloud.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (23子コメント)

I realize the building just exploded into fluffy clouds of microscopic dust, yes. I'm seeing the "spire" disintegrating soon after.

Thermite?

[–]Redditsuckscaulk -1ポイント0ポイント  (22子コメント)

Sure..If by "disintegrating" you mean, fell to the ground.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (21子コメント)

I mean "turn to dust right before my eyes".

[–]Redditsuckscaulk -1ポイント0ポイント  (20子コメント)

I'm sorry you can't accept reality and the fact that the spire kept falling and the dust that was on the spire was left suspended in the air because as you may know the spire is much heavier than the dust.

Watch the videos closely you see it fall all the way until its blocked by a building or dust cloud.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

I've watched the videos closely and I see the "spire" disintegrate into fluffy dust. Much like the rest of the building.

Thermite?

[–]Redditsuckscaulk 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Oh, that's an interesting opinion you have.

"Thermite?" is not a valid question.

[–]downtowne 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ironic that you are sorry about someone else's acceptance of reality. Folks keep using their lying eyes for perception and that is a problem for someone like you.

[–]Redditsuckscaulk -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's a shame when someone can't accept what is so obvious in front of them. Very sad.

Should we not try to help those that are misled or confused by their lying eyes?

[–]Geralt23 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

LetsHackReality, do you believe in the DEW theory now instead of the nuclear bomb one?

[–]LetsHackReality[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. Nuclear demolition would cause this.

I just see too many holes with the DEW theory, most notably the lack of radiation and the "cool" operation, both of which are contradicted by evidence.

But DEW is what got me thinking, "No way could thermite do that!" and yanked me out of that way of thinking. It was a stepping stone.

And Judy Wood has one of the best collections of photos.

[–]holocauster-ride -4ポイント-3ポイント  (10子コメント)

This is the weirdest thing related to 9.11

[–]Slipgrid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are the weirdest thing related to 9/11.

[–]The_Noble_Lie -3ポイント-2ポイント  (8子コメント)

If a massive explosion underneath the towers was able to turn most of the metal above it into dust, then it all makes sense. Inherent in this explanation is that most of the energy would travel up the building, super-heating, pressurizing, vibrating and destroying the structure above it.

If not, I have no clue.

If this explanation jives with you, see Dimitri Khazelov's book (tome) 9/11thology.

[–]grandmacaesar 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

If that were the case, it seems to me this "spire" (actually the underlying structure of a corner of the building) wouldn't have fallen after the rest of the building fell...it would've been demolished as the reaction went upwards from the basement.

I'm not ruling out nuclear weaponry beneath the building. I'm just thinking.

But yeah, for sure it wasn't thermite, or at least not thermite by itself.

[–]The_Noble_Lie -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think if you go with the supposition a nuclear bomb exploded beneath the tower, whose chief purpose was demolition (Dimetri goes as far to claim with certainty that this demolition protocol was mandated to exist underneath the towers back when it was built,) then we are dealing with unprecedented demolition (at least to the public.) For instance, you say "as the reaction went upwards" but I would think it would be more instaneous, at least the shockwave and heat will permeate through the entire building before gravity accelerates the building downwards.

And even then, I am having trouble explaining how the tower began to fall from the large hole in the building. One theory I can propose is that the explosion beneath was calculated not to "dustify" the steel, but to super-heat it to the point where it would fail at the large hole in the building. Then everything comes crashing down on itself and becomes, for the most part dust. I know some things need work, but I am just beginning to wrap my head around this, at first, seemingly ludicrous theory.

Note that this theory seemingly doesn't match these images of the spire seemingly turning to dust before the tower even accelerates much. But, I notice that this might be a time perceptual deception if the time frames aren't posted on all the images, as this is a no brainer (basic science presentation skills) when producing these types of images side by side. The last image, might be unequally spaced into the future. Regardless some dust seems to outline the spire, but it might not have completely dissolved, which would make the above theory more plausible.

[–]IntellisaurDinoAlien -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still haven't written off the Hutchison effect as the means to weaken the frame sufficiently to cause the collapse. The only truly unfeasable and unbelieveable theory is the official one.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

The other half of Dimitri's explanation is no-planes. (Just as hard, if not harder to wrap your brain around, but I'm like 90% convinced.) The "impact points", then, are planted explosives. If we assume that the height of the pulverization zone from nuclear demolition was known, at least approximately, then maybe the impact points were chosen to give the illusion of "pancake collapse" -- i.e., it would give the casual audience a visual reason why the buildings started falling at that point.

Just a thought. I'm reading his book now, maybe it's explained further.

[–]The_Noble_Lie 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes I had the same reaction to "no-planes." But you know, it matters less than you think, whether it was an airplane, missile, or locally placed bombs. Each one, would require it's own explanation for the subsequent collapse. As for the pulverization zone. None of it coordinates with the OP's image of the spire. Dimitri himself suggests the pulverization zone was most likely calculated to end where the hole in the tower existed. The hole in the tower would also inevitable act as a pressure/heat release valve, which we'd need to watch for, before the towers collapse. But then why was the spire at least partially dustified? And then how was the collapse ensured to start at the hole in the tower?

I'm not decided on anything, merely thinking about every single possibility. Dimitri's tome is refreshing to read and definitely opens up some possibilities in my mind, but I am certainly not trusting all his claims. Definitely see if you can get through the most pertinent sections using your best judgment.

[–]LetsHackReality[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think the spire and top section dustified as they fell closer to the nuclear epicenter.

[–]The_Noble_Lie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's not really what those images are showing though, right?

[–]LetsHackReality[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah yeah you're right -- the section in these pics isn't a spire, but a remaining core column section, i.e. not falling.