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MercadoLibre.com, the argentinian eBay in 13 latin american countries since 1999 (whose 18% is owned by eBay) announces ongoing Bitcoin integration project for their payment platform (scalability pressure rises) (diariobitcoin.com)

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[–]sgtpepper999 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

mercadolibre is huge in Argentina, both in commerce volume and visits. http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/AR

[–]ItsAboutSharing 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, this is big pre-news. Might be big for BTC in those countries though. After all, many have said BTC will first be big where it is really needed, and it certainly is needed there.

When Amazon and Ebay accept BTC, I will really start using it regularly.

[–]BitcoinHolic 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can actually buy stuff from amazon with Purse.io. I have used it and have got huge savings from it.

[–]ItsAboutSharing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I use Purse.io but I am in Germany. Amazon.de stopped allowing it and now only Amazon.co.uk is the only source for me. Sometimes it is cheaper to just by from .de with no discount, considering the Euro Pound conversion and shipping.

[–]UnderpaidBIGtime 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is where Bitcoin needs to be! The most inflated country's of the continent.

[–]bawlaw 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

hope that I can withdraw in bitcoins

[–]Cheve5 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too early to know for sure, but seems like you can't.

[–]Avatar-X 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doubtful.

[–]Avatar-X 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had already translated to English the actual MercadoPago page from where this was announced yesterday. will repost it here I guess:

Still unknown who will be able to use it first. But more than likely only for fully registered sellers with a top standing. But MercadoLibre is the eBay of Mexico and Latino America and it is still the biggest E-commerce player. In the meantime, let me translate the linked page to English:

MercadoPago

Your customers now will be able to pay you with Bitcoin!

[Image: Always Innovating in payment options]

You business will now count with the latest technology in payments systems.

In MercadoPago we continue improving so your customers can count with more ways to pay you. Maintaining your business with a foot into the future.

This new payment option is completely transparent to you and your customers. They can utilize Bitcoin to pay you and you will recibe money in an instant.

How I am going to be paid in Bitcoin?

You don't have to do anything. We will activate it and your customers will be able to start paying you with Bitcoins at any moment.

1.- Your customer selects the Bitcoin payment option at the time of sale.

2.- MercadoPago will manage the transaction, completely insuring it.

3.- You will transparently receive the money from your sale in your MercadoPago account.

How do will I see the payments in my MercadoPago account?

In the transaction details, you will be able to see if it was paid with Bitcoin.

You will receive the details of each payment in an E-mail, just like always.

We would like to know your opinion about this new option via a brief survey.

And that's it.

[–]kegslap 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

How would ebay even work without chargeback/customer protection? Why would the person ever actually send you the correct thing ever without the threat of the money going away?

[–]somedaysitsdark 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think this is where someone says something smart about smart contracts and escrow or something.

[–]danielravennest 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Simple, the marketplace holds the funds in escrow until the buyer gets the item and is satisfied, then funds are released to the seller. That's how the Silk Road operated, in a market with much less trust than Ebay or Amazon, and it worked just fine by all reports.

[–]kegslap 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I mean, a third party and chargebacks is the obvious correct answer but then why use bitcoin at all instead of not doing that?

[–]lclc_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No bank account or credit card needed.

I don't know how many people in Latin America are unbanked, but I guess even those people have a smartphone, so they could trade on this platform with that and Bitcoin

[–]danielravennest 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because bitcoin probably has less inflation than the Venezuelan Bolivar (over 60% the past year), or Argentine Peso (15-25% in the last year). Bitcoin also allows you to get around capital controls and buy stuff from other countries without currency exchange overhead.

[–]kegslap 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Okay but mercadolibre isn't going to be an illegal market, like there is zero chance it's going to help you with illegal activities why would it be any help with "getting around capital controls"?

[–]danielravennest 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mercado Libre is incorporated in Delaware, USA. They already have to work around the insane capital controls in Venezuela (read that section of their quarterly report). If bitcoin lets them do so more easily or attract new customers and seller fees, why would they not do it?

The topic headline is wrong, by the way, it is not an Argentine company. It's a US company operating in Latin America.

[–]kraml 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Competition in escrow drives down the prices.

[–]Karma9000 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Reputation systems provide the incentive. Only buyers that have it established can charge a price premium people will pay, which is valuable; not sending goods promised would (in theory) destroy more value than hanging on to the inventory saves.

[–]kegslap 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

If no one will buy from first time sellers than how can they get reputation?

If some people will buy from first time sellers why wouldn't scammers use that forever to steal money forever?

Why would I pay a price premium at all instead of using normal people money with normal people consumer protection that solves these problems already at no price premium?

[–]Noosterdam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Burn bitcoins for initial rep. Or get a referral from someone who already has rep (a sponsor).

[–]peoplma 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bitcoin trades consumer protection for merchant protection. Consumers scam merchants all the time with fraudulent chargebacks, ask anyone who's ever sold seriously on Ebay.

[–]theonevortex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed it makes sense for third world countries who's currencies have been inflated to death to first begin accepting btc. By doing this both the users and the site will flourish as they continue to give bitcoin value and bitcoin in turn gives them value back by increasing in price. This will eventually and ultimately put pressure on first world sites like ebay to begin accepting bitcoin.

[–]judah_mu 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody wants to store spammy consumer transactions on the blockchain. The blockchain should just be a settlement layer for the big boys. Wait a few years until Lightning Network, ya numb nutz.

*waits for pat on head by theymos

[–]paulmadore 0ポイント1ポイント  (19子コメント)

"Scalability pressure rises." WTF?

[–]yoCoin 18ポイント19ポイント  (15子コメント)

Yes, 7tps is our scalability issue. Companies are hesitant to use a globally shared payments network that tops out at 7 transactions per second. There's an argument we will increase the block size when we see a need, but by that time project managers have already passed on Bitcoin.

[–]Atyzze 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haven't you heard? 1MB block size limit is simply too small.

[–]btchip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes might be a bit early to say that without seeing both volumes generated and payment processor chosen

[–]giszmo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where can I verify that claim? I have an account with mercadolibre.cl since 2 years and haven't gotten any such mail ever, probably cause I opted out first thing back then. Anybody got the mail? Anybody who could share it in full text?

[–]Hakuna_Potato -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

yay gubatron!

[–]T62A 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

First Mexico, now Argentina, i guess Mercado Libre will implement bitcoin for all the branches. Furthermore, seems like the system will consist on a Bitpay style payment method and not one of those messy-terrible methods i've seen around.

[–]xerdopwerko 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly, though, MercadoLibre is absolute garbage in many countries. For example, in Mexico, it's filled with scammers, shitty re-sellers and spammy shit products.

I want BTC to succeed in my country, but MercadoLibre is only going to hurt its image. It is absolute fucking shit.

[–]Argo_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS!!

[–]muyuu -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

(Attempts to induce panic intensify)