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[–]HOU_Civil_EconLunch break is the opium of the masses 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

What group of one economic Study/Theory are the most obviously/consistently /r/badeconomics?

[–]HealthcareEconomist3Krugman Triggers Me 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

C21.

ducks

[–]besttrousers"Then again, I have pegged you for a Neoclassical/Austrian." 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Anything specific in mind?

The biggest problem with C21 is that people keep saying it says stuff it doesn't. It's just not relevant to income inequality in the contemporary US.

I also don't think C21 is badeconomics - yeah, th growth model is weak, but getting the American public to purchase a book that has THREE! ENTIRE! EQUATIONS! is a big step up.

[–]HealthcareEconomist3Krugman Triggers Me 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anything specific in mind?

Mainly because I knew stating C21 would cause you to spontaneously combust :)

Also C21 probably isn't be but almost everyone who cites it is a single source warrior, there is a pretty enormous body of work on inequality and while C21 made some enormous contributions to the wealth inequality discussion it certainly wasn't earth shattering. Every other piece of work which is published is claimed to be the golden goose of inequality but are not.

The people who want to fellate Piketty for writing it are as bad as those who want to murder him for doing so.

[–]besttrousers"Then again, I have pegged you for a Neoclassical/Austrian." 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed on all points. I think I parsed the initial question somewhat differently than you did.

[–]VodkaHazereligion+gvt=economics 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm guessing C21's popularity created/rode the aftershock of the occupy wall street movement.

My pet theory goes as follows: whenever there's a lot of public outrage about something, it's the lid blowing off a slow cooker of a social mechanism. For example, the outrage about Martin Shkreli is about outrageous pricing in pharma, not about that dude in particular. The outrage about inequality really only flaired up in public discourse after 2008 as far as I can read.

[–]besttrousers"Then again, I have pegged you for a Neoclassical/Austrian." 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure how to parse your question. Is it basically "What paper is frequently cited by partisans, althought not representative of the entire literature on the subject?"

I'd go with:

  • CK1996 and NW2000.
  • The Second Machine Age: Work, Progress, and Prosperity in a Time of Brilliant Technologies
  • Krugman's work suggesting the possibility of effective protective regimes.
  • Real Business Cycles
  • Laffer curve napkins

[–]CatFortuneにゃんぱす! 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The final question from my series of questions earlier:

When people talk about the economic damages of piracy, how do they address the fact that many of the things pirated would not have been purchased anyway if they hadn’t been pirated? Is it still considered a loss? Is it an equal loss to someone who pirates things they would buy? How is it all figured?

[–]HealthcareEconomist3Krugman Triggers Me 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its not really possible to look at piracy in a manner where a definitive answer can be given. Certainly piracy reduces the incentives for new creative output but the technology which allows piracy to occur also increases creative output (simple example, file sharing makes it easier to pirate but also easier to publish).

While I am certain we can make some good tweaks here and there the current cold war where piracy is both discouraged but largely unenforced seems to be close to optimal. As creative products have basically no elasticity of substitution there are very few incentives for change, different products don't really compete so no publisher gains an advantage over another by adopting new distribution technology. Without torrent we probably would not have had netflix as publishers would not need to compete with piracy to distribute their products. At the same time if we had a massive increase in piracy such that there was a significant decline in the revenue creative goods generate there would have certainly been a decline in the quality and/or quantity of new creative goods.

When people talk about the economic damages of piracy, how do they address the fact that many of the things pirated would not have been purchased anyway if they hadn’t been pirated?

It depends on the study. Most examine trends in revenues or creative output after a disruptive technology becomes widespread. Music there doesn't appear to be any evidence that piracy harms markets (no change in creative volume/quality after Napster) while movies there appears to be fairly significant effects (but could simply be down to the method of distribution, I would strongly suspect that most of this effect will disappear now that digital distribution is ubiquitous).

[–]besttrousers"Then again, I have pegged you for a Neoclassical/Austrian." 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like this essay on chaffeur knowledge

After receiving the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1918, Max Planck went on tour across Germany. Wherever he was invited, he delivered the same lecture on new quantum mechanics. Over time, his chauffeur grew to know it by heart: “It has to be boring giving the same speech each time, Professor Planck. How about I do it for you in Munich? You can sit in the front row and wear my chauffeur’s cap. That’d give us both a bit of variety.” Planck liked the idea, so that evening the driver held a long lecture on quantum mechanics in front of a distinguished audience. Later, a physics professor stood up with a question. The driver recoiled: “Never would I have thought that someone from such an advanced city as Munich would ask such a simple question! My chauffeur will answer it."

I saw Krugman give a speech a few years ago. As a bit of a parlour trick, during the Q+A session I whispered the answer to each question to my wife, and was generally able to accurately predict Krugman response (the audience wasn't exactly a seminar population).

[–]Melab 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

How the fuck do I explain to an anarcho-capitalist that governments aren't monopolies? By pointing out that their "private courts" and "private defense agencies" are government?

[–]besttrousers"Then again, I have pegged you for a Neoclassical/Austrian." 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

They didn't respond to my question as to how exactly laws are over-priced and under-provided.

[–]Melab 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You are being far too generous. You don't need to ask those questions to see that it's nonsense. For one thing it's hard to see how laws can be "provided" or how they can be imagined as a "good" or a "service".

[–]besttrousers"Then again, I have pegged you for a Neoclassical/Austrian." 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see how you could conceptualize laws as a service.

I mean, hypothetically you can imagine governments set up like they arein Snow Crash. But it's not an especially useful metaphor in the real world.

[–]VodkaHazereligion+gvt=economics 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Warning: all of this is conjecture. Onto it:

Look at how any society self organized in human history.

At almost every instance, power aggregated in a few individuals (so to say power aggregated to an oligarchy or monopoly). This seems inherent, to me at least, since even completely individually formed societies (Middle east fertile crescent, Chinese ancient history, Olmecs/Mayans/Incas, etc.) conformed to it.

So there's no such thing as truly anarchic societies, since groups of humans have emergent properties. Having rules that transcend the humans taking decisions is a good thing, as we can see in modern western society's success.

[–]devinejohSecretary of the Bitcoin Treasury 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recommend watching the previous episode of "last week tonight", and than read the comments about it in reddit. It's funny when John Oliver goes against the opinion of reddit.

[–]brauer1Undergrad newbie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone have some good readings regarding foreign investment and how it helps both countries?