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[–]Limon_Lime37k + 48k Knight Commander - Order of the GET 244ポイント245ポイント  (60子コメント)

Yep because it was easy to hate Jack because he was on the right for a lot of these people, but when Sarkessian who I see is worse than Jack, is the target. Oh noes, gotta protect the women folk. How can we have equality when there are people willing to coddle others from anything bad? Fuck Anita Sarkessian and her political propaganda.

[–]atxyankee02 164ポイント165ポイント  (54子コメント)

I'm gonna get downvoted for this, but it's not just because she's a woman.

She's a progressive woman.

The progressive side of the political spectrum for a long time has had no problem sheltering their own and protecting their own in heinous ways. Ways that for a lot of people I'd bet they were unaware of until the Nyberg crap came to fruition.

That kind of carte blanche protection never existed on the authoritarian right.

Further, during the 90's when Thompson was in his ascension, so was the loosening of restrictions on free speech. A hard pushback against censorship was in full swing. That also doesn't exist right now (I don't categorize gamergate as having the severity that existed in the 90's, but i'm open to discussing that).

Admittedly today I'm kinda melancholy over everything that went down with the UN, and a general feeling of the culture fight is more or less "over". Now it's just a matter of sorting out which side you're on, and seeing how it is fought in the political arena.

[–]qwertygue 22ポイント23ポイント  (25子コメント)

Okay, am i missing something, I know the UN thing went down but how I feel from yesterday or the day before hasn't changed at all. In fact, I'm pretty chipper that the UN looks more buffoonish by the day. What's there to be melancholic about?

[–]atxyankee02 46ポイント47ポイント  (23子コメント)

In and of itself you're right, the UN is pretty much a joke. The problem is the connections required to get in there to speak. That's not so much a joke.

Edit: It's tinfoil, but it worries me that ZQ and Sarkeezy were able to pull the connections to get there to speak. I somehow doubt that ZQ is riding off of Lifschitz because his daddy wouldn't risk his business helping them out. If they have those level connections, mixed with apparent connections at google, what other ones are we missing, and where is this entire thing headed/how badly are we out gunned?

[–]MaximoffZero 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

This has worried me too, even before this UN event. These people are either A) incredibly persuasive off-camera or B) have someone (or more likely a group of someones) very powerful pulling their strings.

[–]MrDuck 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

I feel like I should post this on /pol/ but....

Clinton. This just smells so much like what went down in the 90's I would be amazed if the DNC isn't opening doors ahead of the presidential election. Clinton has a long history with the UN as the US secretary of state, She has a long history with UN women, she delivered the now infamous speech back in 1995 in Beijing.

This kind of moral panic coupled with a feminist edge reminds of the drama surrounding the the violence against women act was passed with an equivalent amount of drama and false premise. Clinton was counting on women to come out and throw themselves at her feet and that isn't happening. So she looks for other ways to rally the base, it doesn't hurt that she has already detailed plans to restrict 'inflammatory' speech online. This UN briefing folds perfectly with her own ideas about a tightly controlled internet and rallies the troops to support her important work.

[–]MaximoffZero 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

When you first said "Clinton", I thought you were referring to Bill and you were going to explain how he slept with all of these women and now owes them favors. lol.

But yeah, your theory on Hilary sounds eerily plausible, at least to some one like me who's not up on political happenings.

[–]MrDuck 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]BasicallyADoctor 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fortunately people are seeing through Clinton and see her for the lying shill that she is. The Sandersjerk might get annoying, but he is certainly not a Clinton.

[–]DStoo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if you don't like or know who Bernie is your current choices are:

Hillary or Trump and the rest of the GOP zoo.

Just by deduction anyone halfway progressive should default to Bernie because the other candidates are just that bad.

[–]AnomalousOutlier 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clinton also has close links to the very highest levels of Google. At one stage, after the diplomatic cables leak, Assange met with a delegation that turned out to be a mix of high level Department of State staff and Google Ideas people.

https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/

[–]tom3838 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if its that they have one or more powerful allies pulling strikes. I think they are useful for people that want to make a certain argument or narrative work.

When you think "online harassment of women" those are the names that come up, and maybe only because I know about GG, but maybe they are legitimately the most notorious women online who claim to have been heavily harassed.

So it makes sense to me, for companies or organisations who want to push a narrative that the online world has these hidden dangers that are harming women, to go to the loudest pots and pan - bangers, the people kicking up the most noise about this shit, and recruit them.

[–]lumberbaron 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

When m00t gave his "goodbye" 10 hour stream he talked about how "someone" during one of the "events" was massively connected. The way he said it basically implied it was Quinn during gamergate. That is why the topic was taboo there for so long.

[–]Guglio08 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's the daughter of some very rich people, so I'm not surprised.

[–]IIHotelYorba 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

In a way, we are very outgunned. But so were people who protested corruption in organized religion.

Part of the reason they seem to be everywhere is feminism really is widespread. So don't be too surprised to see them anywhere, just like you wouldn't really be that surprised to see an evangelical in almost any part of society.

They are just longstanding and well established, and their ideas haven't really been questioned publicly. That type of criticism is really just now breaching the mainstream.

Most people just haven't been clearly shown the difference between the basic idea of helping women and feminist philosophy, or the difference between advocates and money hungry demagogues.

[–]weltallic 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

so were people who protested corruption in organized religion.

Sinnead O'Conner says Hi.

[–]Etios_Vahoosafitz 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

WELL, the protestant deal is a lot more complicated than that. There were several lords and dukes and kings adopting the tenants of lutheranism, like the entirety of scandanavia.

[–]IIHotelYorba 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Haha I really just meant any backlash to corruption in organized religion. :) Take the situation with the Catholic priests and child molestation. People didn't want to hear it, much less believe it.

[–]Etios_Vahoosafitz 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh I dig. I remember there was a giant backlash in Ireland a decade or so ago about the priest-pedophilia thing. A lot of Irish are atheist now.

[–]NightOfTheLivingHam 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

remember Sinead O'Connor getting shat on for her ripping of the image of the pope and everyone said she was nuts and a liar for saying priests rape children?

[–]Etios_Vahoosafitz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not claiming to speak with any authority on the subject, if that's what you're asking.

[–]Ilik_78 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The 30 years war was decided by political factor and opportunism, why else would a catholic country, France, fight on the side of protestant ?

[–]Goladus 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's tinfoil, but it worries me that ZQ and Sarkeezy were able to pull the connections to get there to speak.

i think this is backwards. I doubt they "pulled" connections. The connections invited (read:used) them to promote a narrative supporting the desired outcome. They're poster children.

[–]kathartik 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's what it felt like to me too. and since these people are pushing a criticism=violence narrative, they got what they wanted. because here we are criticising them. of course, it's absolutely necessary to do so, but at the same time, it's what they want.

[–]RavenscroftRaven 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Diglet dig, diglet dig...

Time to break out our shovels once again... sigh.

[–]NightOfTheLivingHam 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The UN exists to make small countries feel important when in reality, those with the nukes have the ultimate say over the world's affairs, everyone else is just keeping their heads low.

Example, Ukraine. What power does Ukraine hold against Russia? None. Where is the UN on Ukraine? Not available to help.

The US won't even intervene directly because in doing so, Russia has threatened to use their nukes if provoked. Likewise, if the US decided tomorrow to take over Venezuela or Cuba, and Russia for some reason got pissed off and told us that they are going to go in and stop us, we'd likely hit them with the same threat.

[–]DevTrooper 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To further the tinfoil rant, I think a larger thing is at play, politicians, who ever they may be, as well as two large tech companies, are on thier side, think about that. GG at it's core is pro consumer, meaning it will probably be consumer vs company soon.

Only the companies that really deal with average consumers can really take our side on this, because they need us.

I am on my phone or i woulda typed more, and I may do an opinion post on this with my own theories later

[–]Inuma 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fear has a greater flight response than cool logic.

[–]tempaccountnamething 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nobody would bat an eye if you said "fuck Sarah Palin".

I think your point stands.

[–]websnwigs 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a damn good point. People were shitting on Palin constantly. Though it should be noted there were women who supported her, simply for being a woman. I knew a woman who votes democrat but was adamant about supporting Palin. Not McCain and Palin, just Palin. So the sexism is still a vital component for some people

[–]RoxWilco 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

No kidding. A lot of people are all "when someone criticizes Hillary, it's misogyny".

BUT

When someone spews vitriol about Carly Fiorina, nobody even thinks about misogyny.

I don't get the double standard.

[–]NightOfTheLivingHam 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

REAL women are liberal, didnt you get the message? /s

and according to Tumblr, REAL women have a penis.

[–]legayredditmodditors 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of people are all "when someone criticizes Hillary, it's misogyny".

BUT

I've never seen that, tbh. But had seen it ABOUT Palin. To be fair.

[–]ThisIsWhoWeR 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm gonna get downvoted for this, but it's not just because she's a woman. She's a progressive woman.

Has KiA really gotten so bad that you would be downvoted for saying that? It's objectively true.

[–]Aurondarklord 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

Nothing is over, SJWs may be getting into the halls of power (as guests), but they're rapidly losing public support, and as soon as the politicos realize that, they'll jump off the bandwagon as fast as they jumped on.

[–]atxyankee02 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

Politico's aren't monolithic, the public isn't either. There's a litany of things that have been shoved down the American public's throat that they have been adamantly opposed to. Further with a current environment where being in the "in clique" can mean escaping prosecution at the federal level, it signals a troubling time to me. Admittedly a lot of this is just "gut" feeling, but there's a lot of positioning going on, and it seems like something major was missed if they were able to pull this off.

[–]Aurondarklord 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Anita may be awful, but she certainly hasn't done anything that should earn her FEDERAL PROSECUTION, none of them really have except the pedo, and that's probably past statute of limitations since she didn't actually molest anyone (that we know of...)

[–]atxyankee02 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't necessarily saying Anita had done something worthy of federal prosecution, there are other political issues with other sectors of the progressive movement however that are, and have thus far avoided any sort of sanctions.

[–]Vorpal_Spork 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anita may be awful, but she certainly hasn't done anything that should earn her FEDERAL PROSECUTION

Wire fraud, among other crimes.

[–]Aurondarklord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anita has not committed wire fraud, she's missed project deadlines, that's not a crime.

[–]zero17333 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm gonna get downvoted for this

Gets 60 upvotes

Its weird how Reddit works

[–]Keorythe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really agree with this. We've seen progressive throw conservative, libertarian, and moderate democrat women under the bus when they don't toe the line. That's been going on for a while. When #NotYourShield first started up they definitely threw any woman under the bus that showed up. As usual it all falls under internalized misogyny as if they have some medical condition rather than free will.

[–]NightOfTheLivingHam 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

let's not forget when Whoopi Goldberg went to bat for Roman Polanski for drugging and raping a 13 year old. "It's not rape rape, it's just rape"

[–]VidiotGamerTrigger Warning: Misogynerd 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

The progressive side of the political spectrum for a long time has had no problem sheltering their own and protecting their own in heinous ways.

Not going to downvote you, but everyone does this. Every single fucking political group ever. There has never been a group of people ever in the history of mankind that hasn't at least once been guilty of this sin. It's human nature.

That kind of carte blanche protection never existed on the authoritarian right.

Actually, at one point it did. Maybe you're not old enough to remember? The point is, these things come around.

Further, during the 90's when Thompson was in his ascension, so was the loosening of restrictions on free speech. A hard pushback against censorship was in full swing. That also doesn't exist right now (I don't categorize gamergate as having the severity that existed in the 90's, but i'm open to discussing that).

I agree with you here. Free speech has been under assault for years (it's perpetually "under assault", but particularly recently). There are few if any champions anymore on the "Left" for it and there has almost never been any champions on the "Right", so asides from a few Libertarian (or actual Liberal minded people) in the press, we're pretty much fucked.

Just means you have to complain louder I think.

[–]Iconochasm 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually, at one point it did. Maybe you're not old enough to remember? The point is, these things come around.

What are you old enough to remember? Nixon stepped down when others in his party told him they weren't going to defend him any longer. Overlooking wrongdoing by your allies is basic human nature. But believing that your allies can do no wrong because their actions are sanctified by the purity of their intentions, is a very ideological thing. Some protestant types have this feature. Progressivism has it in spades.

[–]atxyankee02 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man, you're gonna have to show me an actual example of this level of protectionism. We're talking about outright pedophilia at this point.

[–]Maxcoseti 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

And she has been a gamer all her life, and she doesn't want to take games away from anybody, and she is such a valuable industry ally, Isn't she great? Isn't she wonderful?

[–]Wolfbeckett 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

FACT: Criticizing Anita online is literally just like shooting her in the face. All of you people are MURDERERS and belong in prison!

[–]kathartik 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

she isn't just wonderful, she's brave and beautiful!

[–]SomeThrowAwayForKiA 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh noes, gotta protect the women folk.

This is what makes my blood boil. McIntosh knows his fucking puppet is the perfect shield for him. I just... well I'm not going to voice it here, but honestly fucking Josh is a huge faggot and giant loser. Fuck you Josh. Go to hell. You're worse than a fucking pedo, and I fucking hate pedos.

[–]thegreathobbyist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If Anita's supporters truly believed in feminism they'd let her fight her own battles because by defending her, they rob her of her own agency. They treat her like an object. They lash out at people who dislike Anita almost as hard as someone on /a/ will last out against someone who talks shit about their waifu.

If you ask me, I'd say Anita's own supporters objectify her. Meanwhile I just see her as a person I want nothing to do with because she's trying to control what game developers say and do.

[–]IronShoggoth 66ポイント67ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's always ironic that had Quinn and Sarkeesian been men, nobody would have cared.

She reminds me of way back when I was a small kid, you'd have that one girl who'd start shit with you then tell whichever adult that you'd started it while crying. Then silently poke her tongue out at you while standing behind them as you get chewed out.

"I j-just want them to stahp!"

[–]eyeballfrog 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's always ironic that had Quinn and Sarkeesian been men, nobody would have cared.

The further irony is that Full McIntosh claimed several times that people would never pay attention to the things he said if they were said by a woman.

Yes, this is the exact opposite of reality.

[–]drkitteh 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Josh is delusional, who would have guessed it

[–]Earl_of_sandwiches 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The word your looking for is "instigator". It's actually a penalty in hockey. Definitely described Anita, Zoe, and co. to a fucking T.

[–]Cyberguy64 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think I've ever seen such a punchable person in my life, and I subscribe to the outdated beliefs that a man should never take hitting a woman lightly.

[–]mgod19http://i.imgur.com/nigrDxc.jpg 48ポイント49ポイント  (7子コメント)

Sounds like we got some cyber violence here.

[–]da394ba8f4646fabe414 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

weee wooo! www wewww!

PC police reporting for cancer duty o7

[–]M1ST1C 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

You PC to bro?

[–]EnderWyatt 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I call WOO WOO on you!

[–]M1ST1C 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

WOO WOO

STOP APPROPRIATING ASIAN PEOPLES LAST NAMES WITH SIRENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]TheMasterpass 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

please stop capital letters and punctuation are my 14th and 84th most severe triggers :-(

[–]Ezreal024 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

CYBER TOUCHING

[–]Ozerh 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cyber Bad Touch? QUE DA BEAT!

[–]Hum1l1ation 32ポイント33ポイント  (12子コメント)

I hope South Park or some other satire platform target her. If they want to be equal, then treat them equally. Mock them, shit on them for their mistakes, do whatever you would do to someone else. Public figures need thick skin, they are constantly under a magnifying glass

[–]ThriKr33n 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd laugh so hard if at the end of the episode, she takes off the mask and it turns out she was Jack Thompson all along!

[–]Hum1l1ation 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd die. They would threaten to sue South Park and Matt and Trey would shrug and make next weeks episode. They might actually have the balls to attack the movement,,,

[–]JQuiltyJohn Quilty, TechRaptor 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've gone after Scientology. Zoe and Anita could never aspire to that level of checking your ass to avoid lawsuits.

[–]_pulsar 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact that she had to do a video telling everyone why she's not Jack Thompson only serves to make the comparison stronger. It's pretty fucking hilarious imo. And yes that would be a solid ending.

[–]QuasiQwazi 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anita hates equality. Her entire career is dedicated to special privileges for women.

[–]FiveThou 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminism used to promote the idea that women were strong and capable people, but now it appears the message is that women need a leg up because they are fragile.

We're told that gender is a social construct, and that "the idea that men are naturally stronger than women is, of course, a myth", yet at the same time, women need special protection and privileges.

I don't know whether Sarkeesian genuinely cares about how society treats women or not, but she must be able to see how her actions paint society's view of women, surely? "You must portray women the right way in fiction. You must not say mean things to women" Why? These things are trivial.

[–]TheGameWonk 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Buckle up, buckaroo!

Given they're into games and this is an SJW season, we might very well see it.

[–]acathode 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

South Park

I so hope the current PC principal story goes with Cartman discovering "fat shaming" and how he can completely manipulate PC principal by playing the oppression olympics, attaining power he could only previously dream of, and getting PC principal to violently beat up any kid or adult he wants that even look at Cartman the wrong way.

Then the whole story escalates with Cartman managing to convince the PC bros that the Jews are the most privileged group in America, and that it therefore is ok to beat jews senseless because they are "punching up". Eventually, Cartman convince the PC bros to round and send the Jews to the death camp of tolerance where the Jews are forced to "check their privileges"...

Then Mr. Garrison shows up - and because Mr. Garrison is a m->f->m post-op trans*, ex-gay ex-lesbian now straight man, with a long history of mental disorders, while simultaneously being the most bigoted and hateful conservative in the whole town - he manages to short-circuit all of the PC bro's brains, frying their brains and leaving them drooling on the floor. Garrison then proceeds to fuck PC principal to death, and South Park is yet again back to "normal".

[–]justiceavenger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just got my hopes way up lol.

[–]Adamrises 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They already did something along the fat shaming lines with the Honey Boo Boo episode where he gets a rascal, as well as abuses the idea of being trans to get his own bathroom. But I would still love more because its very ripe for mockery.

[–]Tsalnor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never seen South Park, but if they ever made this, I would binge watch the entire show.

[–]justiceavenger 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If South Park did a whole episode abut shitting on Sarkeesian and how much of a fraud she is I would be so happy.

[–]GirlbeardJ 27ポイント28ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think the reason Penny Arcade haven't overtly given her the finger is because they don't want a repeat of dickwolves that hurts the brand and the things associated with it (PAX and Childs Play).

[–]swissch33z[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, their silence has tarnished their brand in my eyes...

Not like how I feel matters. I'm not a goony beard man or some hipster bitch writing for a glorified tabloid on the internet.

[–]Wolfbeckett 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mine as well, but people that care about Gamergate (on either side) are not the majority. As businessmen they have to please their main audience, who by and large don't give a shit about this. Injecting drama for drama's sake into their business is not a winning play, as they have discovered in the past not just with the dickwolves thing, but also when Mike said some stuff about trans people that got him a ton of flak on social media.

[–]ARealLibertarian 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mine as well, but people that care about Gamergate (on either side) are not the majority

Do you honestly think most gamers like Anita?

Do you honestly think most people like SJWs?

Hell no, they just haven't gotten to the point where we are yet.

That's going to change though, it's already started.

[–]Mashiki 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's probably closer that they don't want their families threatened again.

[–]StrongStyleFiction 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Fuck Zoe Quinn.

Fuck Randi Harper."

I'd rather fuck Milo and I'm not even gay.

[–]Magicians-Red 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

AAAhhhHHhhh I can't take all this Cyber-Violence. I...I think I'm developing Cyber-PTSD

[–]TehRawk 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

I lost both my arms. After getting cyber bombed on Twitter.

[–]Cyberguy64 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

With all this cyber-talk going around, it's finally my moment to shine!

[–]TehRawk 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cyberguy64!!!! That is 5 away from 69. So triggered.

[–]Aurondarklord 33ポイント34ポイント  (12子コメント)

Why would we downvote this? Most of us don't like her anymore than you do.

Fuck Anita Sarkeesian indeed.

[–]swissch33z[S] 42ポイント43ポイント  (11子コメント)

KotakuInAction's community has kind of a reputation for sacrificing what needs to be said for the sake of our "image". I was worried people would just see the post as whining or a troll post or something Ghazi would pick up to "call us out" (as though we give two shits what Ghazi thinks).

I'm glad to be proven wrong.

[–]Owleh 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like that sometimes. On topic, I agree, fuck Sarkeesian and the rest of her ilk. They are a fucking stain on the internet. What worries me the most is that they are starting to rotato out of video games (which is a good thing), and into a position where they are directly trying to alter the internet like some spiteful cunts (far worse than just fucking with the internet).

[–]xenar01 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't worry too much, there are still a few on here, like me, that don't give a shit about PR or our "image" and speak our minds. It's funny I've actually been called a troll on here at least once just for my opinion.

[–]TuesdayRB"I'm pretty sure Wikipedia is a trap" 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We have our own "loud minority."

The average KiA person is hostile to concern trolling and "muh PR", but there are still some who are naive or ignorant.

[–]ManOfBored 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

KotakuInAction's community has kind of a reputation for sacrificing what needs to be said for the sake of our "image"

That's really misrepresenting it. Lots of us are careful about what we say not only because people are watching and waiting for something to exploit, but also because we want to make sure we're actually being reasonable and level-headed. It's not "muh PR" like people always whine.

[–]Neo_Techni 42ポイント43ポイント  (5子コメント)

Fuck Anita Sarkeesian

Not for all the anime in japan

[–]Ozerh 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't know, man... There's a -lot- of good anime in Japan. Enough, maybe, to even wash the Sleezian out of your mouth.

[–]Agkistro13 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Jeez, he said fuck her, not kiss her. Eww, man.

[–]Ozerh 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you even foreplay, bro?

[–]WrecksMundi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. No kissing. Julia Roberts taught us well.

[–]ClingingMars 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

not for all the vidya in the world (I don't do anime)

[–]SaltyChimp 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anita sucks and is a liar.

[–]gossipninjaArmed with PHP shurikens 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

dat cyberviolence do....

(it's ok, you were being an edgelord)

[–]szopinInternalized geometry! 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

But she's a hero and a wonderful woman and n

[–]CHIM_ERA 71ポイント72ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is Anita Sarkeesian really so above ridicule that you can't even publicly say a basic statement of displeasure about her, like "Fuck Anita Sarkeesian"? I mean, what else even has that sort of power?

The synagogue. The mosque. The church. The sacred grove. The shrine. The Parthenon. The messiah. The prophet. The savior. The divine.

If you were to say "Fuck the church, it contributes nothing but bigotry and paranoia." You would be branded a blasphemer, a heretic. You would be accused of persecuting Christians.

If you were to say "Fuck the Prophet, he fucked kids and used fear tactics on his own soldiers." You would be accused of islamaphobia.

If you were to dare to say "Fuck Anita Sarkeesian, she's a proven liar and encourages needless hysteria in women who involve themselves in games." You're a sexist. Plain and simple. Let's hope you were real good at making sure you can't have your private details leaked online.

But when you think about it, who hasn't been accused of being anti-Christian? Who hasn't been accused of being anti-Islam? Who hasn't been accused of sexism.

It is with religious fervor that Anita Sarkeesian is defended and it is religious emotion that will be used. Doubt is blasphemy to these people. Transgression is witchcraft.

"He's a misogynist." "He consorts with the devil." There's no difference.

When you're expressing displeasure about a religious figure, followers of that religion will take it as a personal insult. Take it from me, when I was a young boy in bible study, I pointed out that god himself admitted that he is not perfect. (Exodous 20:5 "I the Lord thy God am a jealous God") I was punched clean in the nose.

Same behavior from feminists. You don't like a woman therefore you hate all women, therefore you hate femininity, you hate femininity you hate their god, you hate their god therefore you're an infidel and must be punished with holy wrath.

[–]swissch33z[S] 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just pinpointed exactly why I, a former feminist, am no longer a feminist. It's a religion, at this point.

I'm no more "anti-feminist" than I'm "anti-Christian", but I'm also neither a feminist not a Christian.

[–]Agkistro13 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you were to say "Fuck the church, it contributes nothing but bigotry and paranoia." You would be branded a blasphemer, a heretic. You would be accused of persecuting Christians.

Yeah, maybe if you live in fucking Vatican city or the 1980's. In case you haven't noticed, nobody gives much a fuck if you slam Christians anymore.

[–]Cyberguy64 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Christian here. Can confirm. We're the ideological straight white males.

[–]skitzokid1189Cause of six-gorillian complaints 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fox News does

[–]atxyankee02 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

We need a shirt

Fuck Jack Thompson 2.0

[–]Maxcoseti 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

yes! perhaps with the a and s in teal and magenta

[–]atxyankee02 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do green and purple with the highlighted letters offset.

[–]XenoKriss 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've always been for criticizing, mocking AND insulting these loathsome Professional Victims.

[–]Raunchy_McSmutbagBrave New Feminists expansion pack 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the criminal justice system,cyber based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated cunts at the UN who instigate these vicious internet harassment felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Professional Victims Unit. These are their stories.

[–]Wolphoenix 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I Agree.

Fuck Sarkeesian. Fuck Thompson. Fuck any journalist who uncritically parrots her censorship happy views and ideas. Fuck any dev that does the same.

[–]demiurgency 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is Anita Sarkeesian really so above ridicule that you can't even publicly say a basic statement of displeasure about her, like "Fuck Anita Sarkeesian"? I mean, what else even has that sort of power?

Mohammed

[–]JakeWasHere 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I note that at this time it's been ten hours since you posted this, and nobody has given the obvious "Fuck Mohammed" reply yet.

[–]Vorpal_Spork 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck Mohammed and fuck whoever inevitably suicide bombs me for saying that.

[–]PeytonHS 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Criticism isn't harassment. Even aggressive criticism isn't harassment. Their definition of harassment is akin to the radfems who say that just looking at a woman is a form of rape. Them constantly saying every little thing they get that isn't kissing their ass is harassment is fucking ridiculous.

Harassment is an issue, and I don't doubt that they get harassment. Even though everyone hates the whole "Grow thicker skin" thing, it is something that you really have to do to an extent when you are on the internet, and even more when you are a public figure.

And also, maybe kind of unrelated, but Anita has many more enemies than just people in GG. I know about 11 or 12 people that hate Anita, but all of them know next tonothing about the entire GG controversy. Saying all of the "harassment" Anita gets is from GG is just a trick to try and paint us as monsters, and to make it easier for the corrupt media to get people on their side.

So yeah, fuck Anita.

[–]Mozgus 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well we know that one of them attempted to eat all the dicks. That's on record. And her mass increased substantially around the same time.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I guess where tom cruise failed to drain Muhammad's power of being censored, we finally find someone who's capable.

http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/4445/32/16x9/960.jpg

[–]MeMyselfandBi 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I both want and don't want South Park to go after Anita Sarkeesian. I want them to because I know they would destroy the entire anti-GamerGate side in a glorious meltdown of her narrative, but I don't want South Park to do it because it would get her even more attention that she doesn't deserve.

[–]DStoo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't want South Park to do it because it would get her even more attention that she doesn't deserve.

Because everyone remembers Snookie and because of the episode they did about her?

[–]SupremeReader 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

I wouldn't fuck any of them, thank you very much.

[–]Rygar_the_Beast 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dont say that she sucks on YT, that's harassment, bro.

[–]ThishorsesucksIndominus REKT 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This reminds me of Jerry Falwell vs Hustler/Larry Flynt. I can say fuck you to whoever I please.

[–]MSMPlanThe first 46k Knight - Order of the GET 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

And the way this will get reported: See? GG hates all women. Look at the title of this thread!

[–]swissch33z[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely correct.

At this point, I say let 'em. Fuck them, too.

[–]poiumty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, and I share the sentiment. Fuck Anita Sarkeesian. Fuck Jack Thompson. Fuck Zoe Quinn.

I should relish being able to say these things while I still can.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

She is dishonest, manipulative, abusive and is campaigning for the very tools that enable systemic oppression of marginalized groups, making her dangerous also. She is the perfect example of why we NEED to be able to express dissent with someone's opinions, because without any pushback we would find ourselves in a police state faster than you could blink.

[–]frankenmine/r/WerthamInAction - #ComicGate 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anita Sarkeesian is just a meat puppet and a meat shield for Jonathan McIntosh, the quintessential privileged straight white male patriarch.

The appropriate sentiment here is Fuck Jonathan McIntosh.

He started up the racket that all the other con artists you've listed have latched onto.

[–]Maxcoseti 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

She feeds on your hate, the more hate she harness, the more powerful and influential she gets, and it's absolutely ironic that she leads a campaign to end harassment, while she wouldn't even have a fucking career to begin with if it wasn't because of harassment, the same goes for Quinn.

And it's funny that you mention Penny Arcade, rule #1 is a reminder of what happened when Penny Arcade dared to go against the SJW "establishment".

[–]swissch33z[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

She feeds on your hate, the more hate she harness, the more powerful and influential she gets,

People say this, and for most it makes sense. They get "called out" and they shut up.

But no matter how big she gets, that will never stop me from saying "fuck Anita Sarkeesian".

And as long as I'm still saying "fuck Anita Sarkeesian" she will never achieve her goal of eliminating ridicule.

[–]Maxcoseti 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

idk man, IMO it's kinda like with trolls you know? Don't feed the troll doesn't mean shut up, it just means not play their stupid game, she wants you to say something like "fuck anita sarkeesian", she literally gets money out of it, but that doesn't mean you should ignore her, you make really good points in your op, but then the title is "fuck her" and you've automatically lost, because it's her game, it's unfair, but no ammount of complaints are gonna change that.

I don't want you to tone down btw, but I think you are playing into her hands.

[–]swissch33z[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't feed the troll doesn't mean shut up, it just means not play their stupid game,

How are these any different?

I also think Anita should be treated differently from "trolls". Trolls don't have political influence.

she wants you to say something like "fuck anita sarkeesian", she literally gets money out of it

Oh, I don't doubt that, but

you make really good points in your op, but then the title is "fuck her" and you've automatically lost

You're missing the point. I don't lose as long as I can still say "fuck Anita Sarkeesian". Frankly, Anita can have all the money in the world for all I care. I don't give a shit. Using the "she makes money don't say those things!" excuse is exactly that: an excuse. All it does is prevent me and other people from saying "fuck Anita Sarkeesian" more than she ever could.

but then the title is "fuck her" and you've automatically lost

If the title is the problem, if that hadn't been my title, then I would've lost.

[–]Maxcoseti 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't feed the troll doesn't mean don't engage the troll, it means don't believe the troll is anything but a troll and you'll be fine, or "don't engage the troll in its own terms" if you will.

Anita only has influence because she recieved harassment, if she hadn't, no one would even know who the fuck she is, and I know there is a difference between her and trolls, but I'm not saying she is just like a troll, my point is that it's the same mechanism in action, the troll wins by enraging you, and so does Anita.

You will always be able to say fuck Anita, it's your right, and no one is trying to silence you, like I said, I'm not trying to tone you down, I'm just asking you to be mindful of the manipulation at play here, you do you, always.

When it comes to "losing and winning" we seem to stand on opposite paradigms, which means different priorities, I personally prefer not to say fuck her if that moderation means I'm not helping her get away with being despicable, but you are free to believe otherwise, of course.

EDIT: edited 1 paragraph for clarification.

[–]tony_abutthead -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nah, the games journalists had been pushing these two since 2012. This whole shitstorm started because we discovered the LWs had literally been fucking the journalists in exchange for press coverage.

Ignoring them wasn't working.

There's a silver lining though. We've been saying these two are the new Jack Thompson 2.0. And now it's official. The UN paper links Jack Thompson 1.0 in the "facts" section. They also claim Nintendo is satanic and kids are being turned into killer zombies. While the SJWs crow victory, the real victory is they had to expose their hand. They've been denying their goal is censorship for multiple years. Now they've thrown in their lot with Jack Thompson. That's an epic misjudgement in their part.

[–]JustABaku 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

She cannot be criticized because she has a vagina and is a feminist. Now watch as this comment get downvoted because 'muh PR muh evil MRA hatespeech'

[–]BlutargA riot of fabulousness! 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

I downvoted you for using two "muh" in a comment. One I can stand, it's the written equivalent of nails on a blackboard, but two is too much.

[–]GOU_NoMoreMrNiceGuy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

ugh.

no fucking way.

you fuck them.

[–]GreatRedYeti45k get! / Bakes a keen copysagna 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

1, 2, 3, not it!

[–]Ephraim225 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck all of them.

I'm not touching any of them even if you pay me >_>

[–]HariMichaelson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck that and fuck Anita. Fuck Zoe Quinn. Fuck Randi Harper. Fuck Sarah Nyberg. Fuck Brianna Wu. Fuck all of them. I say this both because they're all horrible people and because I can say it. They can eat all the dicks.

Repeating this in solidarity of the original poster. We should never lose the right to call people flaming idiots. Even if someone is calling me a flaming idiot.

[–]ilovecreamsoda 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

did that bitch actually say the words 'being called a liar is an aggression'?

[–]Scientologistics 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"in front of the UN"

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

[–]danielmann862 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Take each and everyone of these "oppressed" idiots, throw 'em on a plane, send them to a third world country and lets film it for a reality television special. Let's see how long these "oppressed" idiots last when faced against real oppression.

[–]JakeWasHere 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't that what Eli Roth's new movie is about?

[–]danielmann862 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much. Just with Cannibals and no reality television aspect :)

[–]BoneChillington 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"What you need, my son,
Is a holiday in Cambodia"

[–]Toyotomius 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tell us how you really feel.

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[–]AlseidesDD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can eat all the dicks.

Photoshop into every picture~

[–]KentWayne 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not even with your dick.

[–]secretgamerX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to understand that GamerGate and KiA are trying to establish itself as a none hate group. So is probably the reason why so many here don't promote that kind of stuff. You see people disagreeing with a post but hate speech is very low here.

Of course this is my opinion and this is how i see it.

[–]Slutmiko 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

FUCK YOU ANITA

EAT A LOAD OF SHIT

[–]genericusername348 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i just wish everyone would stop being so salty over the UN. its the ultimate impotent organisation that stands for absolutely nothing. speaking in front of the UN is equivalent to getting up and wanking yourself off in front of people who want to wank themselves off about how good they must be.

the whole wave of posts about it confirms people are reading way too much into it. the UN is basically just anita / zoe on a very large stage so they fit in pretty well there actually...

[–]Stoppingto-goForward 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anita & the rest of them are no different than the moral panic movements that came before. We've seen it time & time again both in videogames & music & movies. Look Jack Thompson wasn't around in the 90s. Jack came along with the rise of Grand Theft Auto 3 back in 2001. Before him it was games like Doom & Mortal Kombat that brought the waves.

People like Eugene F. Provenzo who said the following about Mortal Kombat back in the day

have almost tv-quality graphics [but] are overwhelmingly violent, sexist and racist.

Here is an interview with Dave Grossman from 2001 on the topic of violet videogames such as Doom. Here is a snippet from the end of it on Litigation:

Litigation. Finally, the answer to this problem is as American as apple pie. Sue the bums. Because of our litigation system we have the safest cars and the most well-trained cops in history. The real answer is to hit the whole violence industry right where they live: in the wallet. They sell violence in order to make money. (And don't say they have the right to sell it because people will buy it, that is drug dealer logic.) If they are full members of the market place, then the health of the society demands that they be fully liable to law suits just like anyone else who provides a product or service in our nation.

How far away from Anita or anyone of these people saying the same? In the end they're the moral panic movement & until everybody sees them that way then they're freely gonna use the "these are just attacking women" card. Calling what they are forces them to answer the accusation.

[–]Templar_Knight07 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck all the lousy game journalists that threw us under the bus for these lowlifes, that's what I say.

[–]RazeGamerGate 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How could I ever downvote this when it's the truth?

[–]EmpReb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will beleave leftist when they throught these idiots out of the camp and call the bullshit but all see leftist come together to fight big bad right when ITS MOSTLY LEFTISTS LITE AT THE DAMN TOP. Fucking hell I have issues with people in the right camp but they called this PC Social Justice Bullshit straight from day one and the left did nothing and look now where we are.

[–]Neverdied 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You forgot "Fuck J McIntosh"...because he is a pussy too and he also can eat all the dicks

[–]Diblongson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck everybody, but especially fuck Anita. Fuck Trump, fuck Anita, fuck Ronald Reagan, fuck Zoe Quinn, fuck Brianna Wu, fuck Matt and Trey Parker too.

Seriously I want to fuck Matt and Trey. What's a guy gotta do, huh

[–]legayredditmodditors 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is she really above it? It sure seems that way, unless we deliberately go against it (like what I'm doing now).

Yes, because it's "Misogynist hate mongering" or Sexism, or Rape culture or add anything that's barely even tangible yet gets people foaming at the mouth.

figuratively of course

I think with the mountain of bullshit they pull from, they can eat all the literal dicks.

That would be fine.

[–]swissch33z[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Heh I set up a Chrome extension to replace "rape culture" with "The Boogeyman".

[–]legayredditmodditors 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel it would be better with 'giant fluffy cookie monsters'

If I could make addons, I'd do that one.

[–]Letsgetacid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, aside from some little indie comics that nobody outside of our circle knows about, Sarkeesian has never been mocked. No mainstream gaming media source, serious or farcical, has ever ridiculed Sarkeesian. Is she really above it? It sure seems that way, unless we deliberately go against it (like what I'm doing now).

It's not the lack of ridicule that wrangles my johnsons. It's the fact that no major media gaming outlet has ever criticized, corrected, challenged, or any sort of action that wasn't glorified boot-licking. It's a baffling thing to see. They will rake other Kickstarters over the coals for missing their goals, but not this one. I suppose 3 years late is totally okay, because reasons.

Surely, there's one person at a major game site that would like to write an editorial about FemFreq that isn't complete ass-kissing. Someone that realizes the arguments presented are often times taken out of context or sometimes completely incorrect. There must be a general fear that giving detractors any sort of legitimacy will just completely open the floodgates to Red Pillers or something.

[–]friendlyoffensive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

SJW has all qualities of a religion, that's why.

[–]War_and_Oates 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, well fuck you too, dipshit.

[–]cybermiester 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck that and fuck Anita.

Fuck Zoe Quinn.

Fuck Randi Harper.

Fuck Sarah Nyberg.

Fuck Brianna Wu.

Fuck all of them.

Not even with your dick.

[–]henlp -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not all the dicks, mine is going to be kept far away from all of these fuckers, men and women alike (equality).

But yeah. Sometimes you just have to say it.

[–]Bhaldund_Ahldankasyn -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jack Thompson was a cis white male though. Can't you understand the difference?! /s

[–]MrFatalistic -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's ok because they said they were wrong about Jack, that he got a bad wrap. That's in the past, duh.

[–]oroboroboro 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The problem is not Fuck . It's just a stupid venting. The problem is calling a lier, lier, becoming harassment. This UN this is going to backfire, becouse every reasonable person in the world can see their madness. Assuming the quotes are correct, I still find it hard to believe they are so dumb, it would be a major assent to show the GG truth.

[–]swissch33z[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no, the problem is "fuck", too.

I should be able to say "fuck you" to whomever I please, especially if they deserve it.

But yeah, I should also be able to call a liar a liar.

That's even more important, but both are important.

[–]Armorium 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And fuck the authoritarian left and the free range, fair trade Horse-kin they rode in on.

[–]lethatis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called gynocentrism. Only women's well being really matters. Only women's feelings count. Only women deserve protection.

Fuck gynocentrism.

[–]GrandmasterSexay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She has Muhammad's goo.

[–]StefanAmaris 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, what else even has that sort of power?

The French Aristocracy

More specifically;

a legal characteristic of the individual, which was held or acquired in specified ways, and which conferred specified rights and privileges

And that didn't end well for anyone either.

Everything I see in these people is about creating a very selective, privileged class immune from attack or critique. And through a lack of critique, immune from removal positions of power, something even Marie Antoinette didn't achieve.

[–]Vorpal_Spork 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been saying it from the start. She's an evil con artist cunt and hell is too good for her. They'll have to invent a whole new afterlife just to punish her properly.

[–]Tyvor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone with a brain in their god damned head that knows the most basic things about video games can see that Sarkeesian over exaggerates her findings on possible correlations between violence and video games in order to substantiate her career as a professional victim artist.

One good thing about Anita's brand of third wave feminism is it lets me know who not to associate with. Had a couple of Anita apologists earlier this year in college, was really nice listening to everything they had to say about the world with an imaginary asterisk next to it... friggin freshmans these days.

Fuck Anita and her professional victimhood.

[–]thatJainaGirl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Watch out, the UN is gonna getcha.

[–]EssBen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right in the ear!

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[–]resting-thizz-face 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Please read before downvoting"? Son, I came here to upvote without reading.