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[–]BecomingTheArchtypeVault 13 291ポイント292ポイント  (71子コメント)

Oh thank god it won't be like skyrim on PS3 all over again.

[–]ThePotatoKing 61ポイント62ポイント  (41子コメント)

i doubt they would ever let that happen again.

[–]BecomingTheArchtypeVault 13 128ポイント129ポイント  (40子コメント)

The delays were mostly not Bethesdas fault. Ps3s system was stupidly complicated. PS4 System is very similar to Xbox so it will be easier to release both.

[–]A_Flaming_BananaRaven Rock was a inside job. 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

and they are just unpowered pc basically now.

[–]SingleLensReflex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, no. They're still very, VERY different from a computer where it counts in making games.

[–]TreeGuyThingICE CREAM 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

What happened?

[–]BecomingTheArchtypeVault 13 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically Ps3 version of skyrim was constantly having bugs. It took bethesda a year to just get the vanilla version of skyrim stable and we didnt get any dlc during that time.

[–]alexandermilton 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

I did like the Skyrim DLC:s, bugs aside. They felt pretty meaningful even if the content wasn't amazing design wise... It just felt like decent value.

[–]wolfwolfcat 14ポイント15ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah, even Hearthfire to me was worth the money mainly cause it was just awesome having something in the world that was actually "mine". Bethesda are always champs with DLC.

[–]Calzin_ZYes Man 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

Horse Armor.

[–]CodySpring༼ つ ◕ _◕ ༽つ 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Everyone complains about Horse Armor but I really didn't mind the small scale DLCs for Oblivion, at least when I was playing on console and couldn't get mods. Frostcrag Spire was pretty awesome, and I enjoyed the free mini-DLCs they had like that castle with the mini-quest to take control of it.

[–]superhole 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Free mini DLC with a castle? What one was this?

[–]ThisIsGoobly 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Battlehorn Castle.

[–]superhole 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That wasn't free though?

[–]ThisIsGoobly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I'm not sure why they said it was free.

[–]SycoJack 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the real argument here is that Bethesda tried something everyone was doing and realised it was fucked up and didn't do it again.

The fuckers actually listened to their fans. Hating on them for horse armor DLC after all this time seems wrong to me.

[–]alexandermilton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Horse Armor? Horse Armor.

[–]A_Flaming_BananaRaven Rock was a inside job. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

konami took some notes.

[–]alexandermilton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, I'd have called them crazy for the "Sims-approach" but actually trying it out, I had a lot of fun. Though I wish alla plants could regrow and that you could lock items to their positions >_>

[–]CSGOWasp 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

What happened?

[–]Will_billy 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

ps3 didn't get any dlc, or hell, any bug fixes or updates, for like a year after release at minimum. Even then it got them MONTHS later

[–]ThanatosLXIXThe lone upvoter 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Skyrim for PS3 was not a very stable game. The game would constantly find something new to crash because of and because of the instablity it had Bethesda had to delay DLC for almost a whole year just to get the PS3 version itself working. Can confirm played PS3 version

[–]cdreggyGaaaaarrryy! 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is that why I had not one, but two ps3s crash and become unresponsive while playing skyrim? Neither of them ever worked again.

[–]Blindman213Enclave 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

I piece of software cannot kill hardware unless it is specifically designed to do so. And is Skyrim had been, then it would have made major news.

You just had two PS3's crap out on you. That skyrim was in them at the time is coincidence.

[–]Pozsich 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guys, don't downvote someone for asking a question. He's not going around telling people "Skyrim destroyed my PS3s" he's asking if they did because he doesn't understand it. Questions should be encouraged, not downvoted.

[–]Bass255 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

That wasn't exclusive DLC nor was it planned to be that way. It happened because Skyrim ran like balls on the PS3 in the first place and they couldn't fix the original issues plaguing the game. You would have been more pissed if you sank further money into a games add ons if those worked just as bad, if not worse, than the original base game. Gamers are too quick to forget things.

[–]indigo121 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean it was planned exclusive. It just ended up being exclusive to Xbox and PC a lot longer than intended. Microsoft could've saved some money on that deal

[–]JoePsycho -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

To be fair, Bethesda completely fucked up Skyrim on PS3... There was a bug that made it unplayable for many who had put in hours of gameplay... PS3 exclusive dlc was a way to make up for it.

I'm assuming Bethesda had learned from that mistake.

[–]GiverOfTheKarma 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

PS3 had exclusive Skyrim dlc?

[–]JoePsycho 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Come to think of it, I might be mistaken. I may be confusing Assassins Creed with dlc with this... But there was a bug on Skyrim that effectively scraped my 60hr+ character. Made the game completely unplayable on PS3 for me. The game would lag so badly that it would take several minutes for me to take 3 steps in game...

I bought the game on PC after that and never looked back.

[–]ArctiKHDBrotherhood -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel bad for the console Skyrim players, the load times are longer than the actual gameplay

[–]windwaker910 56ポイント57ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wow, it's a shame this is even something that needs to be said. Console exclusive DLC is shitty.

[–]amalgam_reynolds 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bad for the consumer, companies make out like bandits. I hope that Bethesda make tons and tons of money from this and sets a good precedent for the rest of the industry.

[–]cyberpunch83Gary!!! 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now they just need to tell us how may DLC packs come in the Season Pass and if it will be included in the Pip-Boy Edition or not.

[–]blamb211 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That second part of the question is the answer that I really really want.

[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not exclusive, it's just timed. Which is still shitty.

[–]MacklemormontBethesda Defense Squad 73ポイント74ポイント  (10子コメント)

I wonder if Pete means no fully console exclusive or timed console exclusive. He didn't necessarily say which.

Hm.

[–]svenhoek86 54ポイント55ポイント  (6子コメント)

There were no fully exclusive with any other Bethesda game, so I'm guessing the latter.

[–]nosplet 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

we aren't doing a DLC exclusive with anyone

I swear you people are trying your hardest to make a good thing seem super sketchy and wrong or something. He means exactly what he says. There's no DLC exclusive BS with anyone, all DLC will be available for all platforms and they'll come out at the same time unless there's complications.

[–]dannysmackdownFallout 4 pls 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, corporations aren't exactly the most honest entities out there.

[–]Packrat1010 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It looks like the guy asked him that about a half hour ago.

[–]_EC3_ 346ポイント347ポイント  (42子コメント)

Good. They treated us like shit with skyrim.

[–]roflwaffleauthoritah 163ポイント164ポイント  (28子コメント)

Especially Playstation (not entirely their fault but ps3 users got the shortest end of the stick possible).

[–]_EC3_ 67ポイント68ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah. Didn't even get the free update for months.

[–]roflwaffleauthoritah 63ポイント64ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one with horse combat?

In the end I just quit and went with the PC version, although to this day I still haven't played most of the DLC because of how delayed it was. I know it wasn't entirely Bethesda's fault but it still annoys me.

[–]CountBubsOld World Flag 34ポイント35ポイント  (24子コメント)

Oh shit I forgot about that.

I thought PC was bad but PS3 got fucked

[–]Noirgheos 17ポイント18ポイント  (23子コメント)

What was so bad about the PC Skyrim?

[–]Diagorias 32ポイント33ポイント  (22子コメント)

UI was made for a controller and was really awkward to use with kb/m, can't remember much else atm.

[–]Noirgheos 56ポイント57ポイント  (15子コメント)

One simple mod fixed that all.

[–]TheFatHole 48ポイント49ポイント  (7子コメント)

While I love mods, it seems like it should have been part of the official release. I hate when developers kinda just say fuck it, some modder will figure it out.

Like local coop in borderlands

[–]Blindman213Enclave 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

The UI wasnt unplayable, just annoying. I expect FO4's UI to have the same large font and in general console feel. In a month or so, with or without the GECK, there will be a simple UI fix.

[–]ThePotatoSandwichEdible companions are best 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it's similar to Fallout 3's UI, it shouldn't be that bad.

[–]megafallout3fanEmbrace Democracy or Be Eradicated 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

How hard is it to add a slider in the options that controls the size of your hud. The Witcher 3 had it.

[–]A_Flaming_BananaRaven Rock was a inside job. 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

But it wasn't a 'simple' fix, it took one guy/team hundreds of hours to make skyui.

[–]Blindman213Enclave 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wasnt implying that SkyUI was a simple fix. Far from it, SkyUI did far more than just a simple UI scale fix.

But many of the first mods available for PC are simple UI scale fixes. They usually half the font, and maybe make windows bigger.

[–]dannysmackdownFallout 4 pls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly had no issue with the UI on pc.

[–]Psychoshy1101Gary? 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

You should not have to mod in PC support for a game that was released on PC

[–]Noirgheos -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, you shouldn't. Still, taking 5 minutes to hit a few buttons isn't very hard. I also used the default AI for the longest time without any mods, was fine for me.

[–]RabidMuskrat93 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely agree with you thought it seems like others don't at this time. While it is a hassle, it isn't a complete loss as installing the mod isn't too difficult (especially through steam). But there should never be a reason to have to do so. That shit should have been implemented from day 1 by the developers themselves.

Plus, I still use the regular UI and don't have any issues. I usually use the arrow keys though.

[–]conorf1807 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Still no fix for when you click a text option and because of the controller design it selects the one above or below

[–]Noirgheos -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never really had that happen to me. Disable mouse acceleration, or use WASD.

[–]A_Flaming_BananaRaven Rock was a inside job. -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

which took the guy and his team hundreds of hours to complete all for free. And after the paid mods stuff and how much hate he got, he's probably not gonna make another for fallout 4. Which suck bc the ui looks fucking terrible for kb and m.

[–]Noirgheos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was added a month after Skyrim came out. I doubt he spent hundreds of hours on it.

Also, Fallout 4's UI looks very similar to FNV and F3. They were both fine for PC. In fact it was easier to navigate than on consoles.

P.S. Even if he doesn't make one for Fallout 4, you bet your ass someone else will. It's not like he has copyright on UI mods.

[–]Mr_McChicken_420 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO, it wasn't that bad. I never felt the need to change it.

[–]alexandermilton 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

PC + controller is hella great though!

[–]Psychoshy1101Gary? 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm worried they will do the same thing with Fallout 4. They better not, considering that they are now relying on PC mods to boost console sales

[–]BennettF -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Say it with me now: SkyUI!

[–]SheparudVault 101 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

What happened?

[–]Monkiis[🍰] 56ポイント57ポイント  (8子コメント)

Because of a combination of technical challenges and a deal with Microsoft the dlc for skyrim didn't come to PS3 till like eight months after it came to Xbox.

[–]amalgam_reynolds 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

Still better than Destiny.

[–]mrNONDESCRIPTVacuum tube adeptus mechanicus 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well its the other way round for Destiny, and its twelve months.

[–]blamb211 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If ever. They literally aren't giving Xbox some DLC, because fuck Xbox gamers.

[–]MeesaHugeDickfaceSMELL THAT AIR 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

yall got halo tho, and halo 5 looks pretty damn good

[–]AmericanCobra 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think there was a deal with MS at all, IIRC it was because the PS3 was such a bitch and a half to code for that it took longer to get it right.

[–]wolfwolfcat 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually it was a bit of both, they did have a deal with microsoft but it is well known that the PS3 was hell on earth for developers to work with because of Sonys poor choice in processors which meant alot of difficulties for devs.

[–]SamuelBeechworthOops, wrong universe! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alot of difficulties is an alcoholic Alot with depression

[–]Jord-UK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was mostly because of the way PS3 handled file shit

[–]_EC3_ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

We didn't have dlc or updates for months.

[–]alexandermilton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, horrible combo trying to time releases while working with shit tech. Not sure what they could have done to better that situation other than plan more preemptively..

[–]Shamelesspromote 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wasn't the issue that Microsoft had to check the update themselves and they were just being super slow about it? same thing with ps3 but sony is slightly faster but they didn't get the DLC deal of having it released on that system first sort of what happened to all the CoDs'?

[–]TheUnspeakableHorrorNice hat ya got there. *BLAM!* 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool. I understand why they did it, but it was still annoying as fuck.

I may start looking at that season pass now. Can you imagine how pissed off people would be after preordering the pass, and still having to deal with exclusives?

[–]Elyna_LilyarelVault 111 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

"But will they come to xbone first?"

He literally just fucking said there will be no exclusive DLC

[–]ProfessorEpicI drink toilet water 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

If it was exclusive it would have only been on Xbox which he answered and said no to. If it was timed exclusive Xbox would get it first and the others at a later date. He didn't specify that it wasn't timed exclusive just that it wasn't exclusive. I'd assume he meant no to both but it was a reasonable follow up question.

[–]EnkiduV3 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

It wasn't a follow up question at all, he just repeated his question. It's not reasonable to repeat the answered question a second time. "We aren't doing a DLC exclusive with anyone," means there aren't any exclusives, timed or otherwise, with any platform.

[–]axaddonELIMINATE ALL SEDITIOUS MATERIAL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

ikr? I was looking through the comments, glad someone else noticed it

[–]GandalfTheGriefMeme kids 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The dude seems like he wants them to come to xbox first.

[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As if it mattered. I had bf3 when they did premium and I got everything before everyone else and it literally didn't affect me. Why should I care if I have it first? I only care if I don't have it while someone else does. Everything should be released at the same time for everyone as long as it is ready to be done.

[–]starshadowx2Frumentarii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A truly amazing chain of comments.

"Is this statement true?"

"No"

"Yeah, but is it true?"

[–]elulsweptAsk if I care 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good to hear. Back in Skyrim I used an xbox, so personally I really didn't care since I was getting it anyways first. However, now I have a PC so it's good to hear everyone will be able to get it first.

[–]RTCanadaDogmeat or no one at all 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

They've replaced that with the incentive towards Microsoft still that you get F3 free of charge with a purchase, along with mod support first. Very glad that it's a parity on future release software though.

[–]MISTER_SPANKY 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

F3 was only free if you preordered on Microsoft website I thought?

[–]ALPB11WE'RE THE TUNNEL SNAKES, THAT'S US 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think so, maybe just from Microsoft and select retailers.

If you want to play it on xbox one, it's gonna be backwards compatible by the time FO4 drops, so any old copy should work.

[–]AndrewFlashRemember the Divide 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

So it's not Destiny. Yay

[–]piercehead 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Correct. It's a game that's actually releasing on the PC, so obviously it's nothing like Destiny.

[–]nater255Paladin 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

It will probably contain actual content, unlike Destiny.

[–]BunkBuyOverseer of /r/FalloutShelter, Griplord of /r/gottagetagrip 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will probably good, so absolutely nothing like Destiny.

[–]jennyCKC 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

i dont think beth would have released a season pass if they knew they were a) going to do console exclusive dlcs, and b) have giant gaps between dlc launches for each console

also i don't understand why there were giant delays for skyrim dlcs on ps3 but no delays for fallout 3. Please dont fuck me over again Bethesda!

[–]Ironmunger2 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I could be wrong, but the reason for no fallout 3 delays on other consoles may have been because Microsoft might not have expected it to be as big a hit as it was, so they didn't bother getting any special times exclusive deals or anything. with skyrim, they knew it'd be big, so they made sure to get the special deals

[–]TechnologicalDiscord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Microsoft exclusivity was only for a month. The reason it took so long 5o release the Skyrim DLC was because the PS3 is needlessly difficult to program for.

[–]TechnologicalDiscord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fallout 3 DLC was delayed PS3.

[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Battlefield does season passes and bf3 had a funky release schedule because ps3 got everything 2 weeks early and if you had the pass you got it 2 weeks early so it went pass ps3 people, then pass xbox and pc. then no pass ps3, then everyone else. So if you had a ps3 and a pass, you got it a month before those without either.

[–]beastwick001 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exclusive should not be a word applied to a video game in any way.

[–]Sciencekitten 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good there should never be "exclusive DLC" for anything its a massively shitty thing to do to fans! good job Bethesda .

[–]TheInnerFish 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank god, they're done with that despicable practice.

[–]AdmiralSkippy 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Who cares? We'll just mod them in.

[–]Greengiant00 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? You did read that right, right?

[–]SingleLensReflex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya, I'll just mod official DLC into my PS4

[–]motu8pre -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good. As a PC gamer (where their games started!) I felt pretty shafted for supporting them for so long and being made to wait.

[–]MistahFixIt༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ➃ Bathmazda Pls 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good to know, but I thought the DLC release delay for Skyrim was due to the PS3's weird architecture?

[–]Dark_Lotus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was but the Xbox version still had 1 month exclusively

[–]snarfandfriends 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly lost track of this being a possibility but its certainty relieving to hear it won't be an issue.

[–]irradiatedWolfWelcome home 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good, no need to have one platform above another.

[–]Il1KECH33SE 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doin it right

[–]kereke12Tunnel Snakes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ohh THANK GOD, this is why I love Bethesda. Others should follow suit. Wow, I'm really happy!!!

[–]d_buehls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They learned from Destiny, exclusives hurt the community

[–]R88SHUN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fallout 4's pro-consumer policies are a direct result of an active and vocal community. Fanboys need to remember that the next time they consider complaining about people complaining.

[–]Layze 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Eph dlc talks let's just have more preorders of the pipboy already

[–]HaefenZebraBrotherhood 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I remember correctly someone asked them, and they said the company producing the pipboys for them told them they wont make anymore for them because it was encroaching on their other orders.

[–]NerdBerds 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't they be missing out on a ton of profit though?

[–]TreeQuizJingle-Jangle[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There isn't going to be anymore

[–]Psychoshy1101Gary? -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank God. I would be pissed if they ignore PC

[–]Greengiant00 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would be really strange if they did considering I'm pretty sure that's the majority of their player base. I play on xbox simply because I don't have the money for a good PC and the PS4 doesn't interest me, but I was kinda afraid the console users would be left out. Thank goodness for cross platform mods now.

[–]jazaniacAve -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, to be fair, PC users always get exclusive, free DLC.

[–]InSilico_AlbertBreach -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading this first I actually thought OP was saying that there would be no DLC's at all on consoles :O