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[–]BecomingTheArchtype 177ポイント178ポイント  (35子コメント)

Oh thank god it won't be like skyrim on PS3 all over again.

[–]ThePotatoKing 30ポイント31ポイント  (18子コメント)

i doubt they would ever let that happen again.

[–]BecomingTheArchtype 79ポイント80ポイント  (17子コメント)

The delays were mostly not Bethesdas fault. Ps3s system was stupidly complicated. PS4 System is very similar to Xbox so it will be easier to release both.

[–]TreeGuyThingICE CREAM 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

What happened?

[–]BecomingTheArchtype 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically Ps3 version of skyrim was constantly having bugs. It took bethesda a year to just get the vanilla version of skyrim stable and we didnt get any dlc during that time.

[–]alexandermilton 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I did like the Skyrim DLC:s, bugs aside. They felt pretty meaningful even if the content wasn't amazing design wise... It just felt like decent value.

[–]wolfwolfcat 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, even Hearthfire to me was worth the money mainly cause it was just awesome having something in the world that was actually "mine". Bethesda are always champs with DLC.

[–]CSGOWasp 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

What happened?

[–]ThanatosLXIXThe lone upvoter 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Skyrim for PS3 was not a very stable game. The game would constantly find something new to crash because of and because of the instablity it had Bethesda had to delay DLC for almost a whole year just to get the PS3 version itself working. Can confirm played PS3 version

[–]cdreggyGaaaaarrryy! -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is that why I had not one, but two ps3s crash and become unresponsive while playing skyrim? Neither of them ever worked again.

[–]Blindman213Enclave 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I piece of software cannot kill hardware unless it is specifically designed to do so. And is Skyrim had been, then it would have made major news.

You just had two PS3's crap out on you. That skyrim was in them at the time is coincidence.

[–]Will_billy 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

ps3 didn't get any dlc, or hell, any bug fixes or updates, for like a year after release at minimum. Even then it got them MONTHS later

[–]Bass255 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That wasn't exclusive DLC nor was it planned to be that way. It happened because Skyrim ran like balls on the PS3 in the first place and they couldn't fix the original issues plaguing the game. You would have been more pissed if you sank further money into a games add ons if those worked just as bad, if not worse, than the original base game. Gamers are too quick to forget things.

[–]JoePsycho -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

To be fair, Bethesda completely fucked up Skyrim on PS3... There was a bug that made it unplayable for many who had put in hours of gameplay... PS3 exclusive dlc was a way to make up for it.

I'm assuming Bethesda had learned from that mistake.

[–]GiverOfTheKarma 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

PS3 had exclusive Skyrim dlc?

[–]JoePsycho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Come to think of it, I might be mistaken. I may be confusing Assassins Creed with dlc with this... But there was a bug on Skyrim that effectively scraped my 60hr+ character. Made the game completely unplayable on PS3 for me. The game would lag so badly that it would take several minutes for me to take 3 steps in game...

I bought the game on PC after that and never looked back.

[–]windwaker910 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow, it's a shame this is even something that needs to be said. Console exclusive DLC is shitty.

[–]amalgam_reynolds 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bad for the consumer, companies make out like bandits. I hope that Bethesda make tons and tons of money from this and sets a good precedent for the rest of the industry.

[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not exclusive, it's just timed. Which is still shitty.

[–]_EC3_ 222ポイント223ポイント  (33子コメント)

Good. They treated us like shit with skyrim.

[–]roflwaffleauthoritah 112ポイント113ポイント  (21子コメント)

Especially Playstation (not entirely their fault but ps3 users got the shortest end of the stick possible).

[–]_EC3_ 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah. Didn't even get the free update for months.

[–]roflwaffleauthoritah 44ポイント45ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one with horse combat?

In the end I just quit and went with the PC version, although to this day I still haven't played most of the DLC because of how delayed it was. I know it wasn't entirely Bethesda's fault but it still annoys me.

[–]CountBubsOld World Flag 20ポイント21ポイント  (17子コメント)

Oh shit I forgot about that.

I thought PC was bad but PS3 got fucked

[–]Noirgheos 8ポイント9ポイント  (16子コメント)

What was so bad about the PC Skyrim?

[–]Diagorias 20ポイント21ポイント  (15子コメント)

UI was made for a controller and was really awkward to use with kb/m, can't remember much else atm.

[–]Noirgheos 30ポイント31ポイント  (8子コメント)

One simple mod fixed that all.

[–]TheFatHole 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

While I love mods, it seems like it should have been part of the official release. I hate when developers kinda just say fuck it, some modder will figure it out.

Like local coop in borderlands

[–]Blindman213Enclave 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

The UI wasnt unplayable, just annoying. I expect FO4's UI to have the same large font and in general console feel. In a month or so, with or without the GECK, there will be a simple UI fix.

[–]ThePotatoSandwichEdible companions are best 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it's similar to Fallout 3's UI, it shouldn't be that bad.

[–]megafallout3fanEmbrace Democracy or Be Eradicated 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How hard is it to add a slider in the options that controls the size of your hud. The Witcher 3 had it.

[–]Psychoshy1101Gary? 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

You should not have to mod in PC support for a game that was released on PC

[–]Noirgheos -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you shouldn't. Still, taking 5 minutes to hit a few buttons isn't very hard. I also used the default AI for the longest time without any mods, was fine for me.

[–]conorf1807 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Still no fix for when you click a text option and because of the controller design it selects the one above or below

[–]Noirgheos -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never really had that happen to me. Disable mouse acceleration, or use WASD.

[–]Psychoshy1101Gary? 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm worried they will do the same thing with Fallout 4. They better not, considering that they are now relying on PC mods to boost console sales

[–]Mr_McChicken_420 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO, it wasn't that bad. I never felt the need to change it.

[–]alexandermilton 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

PC + controller is hella great though!

[–]BennettF -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Say it with me now: SkyUI!

[–]Jack_Hat8978 points 4 hours ago -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

mods

[–]Dusty170Liberty Prime -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You could just use a pc compatable controller..

[–]SheparudVault 101 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

What happened?

[–]Monkiis 32ポイント33ポイント  (6子コメント)

Because of a combination of technical challenges and a deal with Microsoft the dlc for skyrim didn't come to PS3 till like eight months after it came to Xbox.

[–]amalgam_reynolds 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still better than Destiny.

[–]mrNONDESCRIPTVacuum tube adeptus mechanicus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well its the other way round for Destiny, and its twelve months.

[–]MeesaHugeDickfaceSMELL THAT AIR 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

yall got halo tho, and halo 5 looks pretty damn good

[–]Jord-UK 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was mostly because of the way PS3 handled file shit

[–]AmericanCobra 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think there was a deal with MS at all, IIRC it was because the PS3 was such a bitch and a half to code for that it took longer to get it right.

[–]wolfwolfcat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually it was a bit of both, they did have a deal with microsoft but it is well known that the PS3 was hell on earth for developers to work with because of Sonys poor choice in processors which meant alot of difficulties for devs.

[–]_EC3_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

We didn't have dlc or updates for months.

[–]alexandermilton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, horrible combo trying to time releases while working with shit tech. Not sure what they could have done to better that situation other than plan more preemptively..

[–]Shamelesspromote 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wasn't the issue that Microsoft had to check the update themselves and they were just being super slow about it? same thing with ps3 but sony is slightly faster but they didn't get the DLC deal of having it released on that system first sort of what happened to all the CoDs'?

[–]MacklemormontBethesda Defense Squad 40ポイント41ポイント  (8子コメント)

I wonder if Pete means no fully console exclusive or timed console exclusive. He didn't necessarily say which.

Hm.

[–]svenhoek86 36ポイント37ポイント  (5子コメント)

There were no fully exclusive with any other Bethesda game, so I'm guessing the latter.

[–]Mr_Milenko -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

The way its worded though is sketchy. Notice he didn't answer the follow up tweet.

[–]TheRealMe99 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

because he already answered the follow up

[–]slothking69 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because the guy repeated the same question...Coming to Xbone first is still exclusivity, it's just timed exclusivity.

[–]nosplet 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because the answer to the follow up is the same answer to the question, as they're basically the same question.

[–]Mr_Milenko -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

But they're not, one is asking if its exclusive to a specific console, or if it will be launched on a certain system first. He didn't directly answer the question of timed exclusivity, and blindly accepting what he said as an answer is stupid.

[–]Packrat1010 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It looks like the guy asked him that about a half hour ago.

[–]nosplet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

we aren't doing a DLC exclusive with anyone

I swear you people are trying your hardest to make a good thing seem super sketchy and wrong or something. He means exactly what he says. There's no DLC exclusive BS with anyone, all DLC will be available for all platforms and they'll come out at the same time unless there's complications.

[–]TheUnspeakableHorrorNice hat ya got there. *BLAM!* 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool. I understand why they did it, but it was still annoying as fuck.

I may start looking at that season pass now. Can you imagine how pissed off people would be after preordering the pass, and still having to deal with exclusives?

[–]elulsweptAsk if I care 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good to hear. Back in Skyrim I used an xbox, so personally I really didn't care since I was getting it anyways first. However, now I have a PC so it's good to hear everyone will be able to get it first.

[–]Elyna_LilyarelVault 111 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

"But will they come to xbone first?"

He literally just fucking said there will be no exclusive DLC

[–]ProfessorEpicI drink toilet water 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it was exclusive it would have only been on Xbox which he answered and said no to. If it was timed exclusive Xbox would get it first and the others at a later date. He didn't specify that it wasn't timed exclusive just that it wasn't exclusive. I'd assume he meant no to both but it was a reasonable follow up question.

[–]EnkiduV3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It wasn't a follow up question at all, he just repeated his question. It's not reasonable to repeat the answered question a second time. "We aren't doing a DLC exclusive with anyone," means there aren't any exclusives, timed or otherwise, with any platform.

[–]axaddonELIMINATE ALL SEDITIOUS MATERIAL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ikr? I was looking through the comments, glad someone else noticed it

[–]GandalfTheGriefMeme kids 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The dude seems like he wants them to come to xbox first.

[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As if it mattered. I had bf3 when they did premium and I got everything before everyone else and it literally didn't affect me. Why should I care if I have it first? I only care if I don't have it while someone else does. Everything should be released at the same time for everyone as long as it is ready to be done.

[–]RTCanadaDogmeat or no one at all 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

They've replaced that with the incentive towards Microsoft still that you get F3 free of charge with a purchase, along with mod support first. Very glad that it's a parity on future release software though.

[–]MISTER_SPANKY 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

F3 was only free if you preordered on Microsoft website I thought?

[–]ALPB11WE'RE THE TUNNEL SNAKES, THAT'S US 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think so, maybe just from Microsoft and select retailers.

If you want to play it on xbox one, it's gonna be backwards compatible by the time FO4 drops, so any old copy should work.

[–]AndrewFlashRemember the Divide 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

So it's not Destiny. Yay

[–]piercehead 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Correct. It's a game that's actually releasing on the PC, so obviously it's nothing like Destiny.

[–]nater255Paladin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will probably contain actual content, unlike Destiny.

[–]jennyCKC 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

i dont think beth would have released a season pass if they knew they were a) going to do console exclusive dlcs, and b) have giant gaps between dlc launches for each console

also i don't understand why there were giant delays for skyrim dlcs on ps3 but no delays for fallout 3. Please dont fuck me over again Bethesda!

[–]Ironmunger2 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I could be wrong, but the reason for no fallout 3 delays on other consoles may have been because Microsoft might not have expected it to be as big a hit as it was, so they didn't bother getting any special times exclusive deals or anything. with skyrim, they knew it'd be big, so they made sure to get the special deals

[–]TechnologicalDiscord -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Microsoft exclusivity was only for a month. The reason it took so long 5o release the Skyrim DLC was because the PS3 is needlessly difficult to program for.

[–]TechnologicalDiscord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fallout 3 DLC was delayed PS3.

[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Battlefield does season passes and bf3 had a funky release schedule because ps3 got everything 2 weeks early and if you had the pass you got it 2 weeks early so it went pass ps3 people, then pass xbox and pc. then no pass ps3, then everyone else. So if you had a ps3 and a pass, you got it a month before those without either.

[–]Psychoshy1101Gary? 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank God. I would be pissed if they ignore PC

[–]MistahFixIt༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ➃ Bathmazda Pls 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good to know, but I thought the DLC release delay for Skyrim was due to the PS3's weird architecture?

[–]Dark_Lotus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was but the Xbox version still had 1 month exclusively

[–]snarfandfriends 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly lost track of this being a possibility but its certainty relieving to hear it won't be an issue.

[–]irradiatedWolfWelcome home 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good, no need to have one platform above another.

[–]Il1KECH33SE 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doin it right

[–]beastwick001 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exclusive should not be a word applied to a video game in any way.

[–]Sciencekitten 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good there should never be "exclusive DLC" for anything its a massively shitty thing to do to fans! good job Bethesda .

[–]jazaniacAve 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, to be fair, PC users always get exclusive, free DLC.

[–]TheInnerFish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank god, they're done with that despicable practice.

[–]ProbablyHighAsShit -2ポイント-1ポイント  (71子コメント)

I just hope mod support doesn't take 2 years to come to ps4.

Edit: ITT PCMasterbaters. Nothing to see here.

Edit: console and PC gamers will never reconcile. We have different values when it comes to priorities for gaming. It doesn't have to just be graphics.

[–]Xrayruester 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

The way it sounded, Bethesda pretty much said it is up to Sony now. They are willing, but Sony needs to make it happen.

[–]ProbablyHighAsShit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for the reasonable response.

[–]motu8pre 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good. As a PC gamer (where their games started!) I felt pretty shafted for supporting them for so long and being made to wait.