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ArticleChris Brown denied visa to tour Australia on character grounds (theguardian.com)

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[–]JojoSexy 200ポイント201ポイント  (12子コメント)

He was denied entry to NZ before he even handed in his application. He was denied and it was public news as soon as the tour details confirmed there will be a NZ stop.

Source: 6PM local news (TV3) a few days ago.

[–]ThatisPunny 3918ポイント3919ポイント  (420子コメント)

Relevant, Best thing to ever be on Fox News Channel.

[–]Richtofen-72 774ポイント775ポイント  (40子コメント)

That was fantastic! Thanks for spreading that.

[–]moistbutter 272ポイント273ポイント  (24子コメント)

This guy is hilarious

[–]zephrythos 174ポイント175ポイント  (6子コメント)

this comment also works in /r/gonewild

[–]LostMyMarblesAgain 36ポイント37ポイント  (5子コメント)

If I had a nickel every time I said that

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    [–]DigNitty 1786ポイント1787ポイント  (73子コメント)

    "Really though, the only thing Chris brown is guilty of...is a felony."

    [–]The_Unitologist 197ポイント198ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Way to go Jeremy Renner.

    [–]drukqsxSpotify 323ポイント324ポイント  (33子コメント)

    Riggity riggity wrecked son

    [–]Iceman467radio reddit 141ポイント142ポイント  (28子コメント)

    Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!!

    [–]405freeway 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Awwwwwwwwww SNAP!

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      [–]cheesestrings76 505ポイント506ポイント  (20子コメント)

      Haha, I like this guy. Not the other guys who ruined his dry, beautiful sarcasm by laughing at all the wrong times, tho.

      [–]barukatang 397ポイント398ポイント  (5子コメント)

      "after he gave rihanna multiple contusions to the face" (bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha)

      [–]fzw 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I don't know how it is now, but Red Eye was hilarious when I watched it years ago. But ever since Greg Gutfeld got promoted to mainstream Fox he's acted more conservative and it's just...eh.

      [–]Fastbird33 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Red Eye and Shepard Smith used to be the only 2 things I could stand to watch on Fox News.

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        [–]derekandroid 74ポイント75ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Fox News can't even get the best thing to be on Fox News right

        [–]mutatersalad1 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Greg Gutfeld is actually hilarious on his own. These two usually play off each other.

        [–]RandPaulsBalls 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Honestly I think reddit would love Red Eye if it wasn't on fox news and gave it a chance...

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            [–]foxh8er 211ポイント212ポイント  (34子コメント)

            [ ] Not Told

            [✓] Told

            [–]hinckley 259ポイント260ポイント  (31子コメント)

            [ ] Required two checkboxes

            [✓] Required a single checkbox

            [–]RRRIIICKBRUISERRR 80ポイント81ポイント  (30子コメント)

            I like this joke of how you typed this out.

            Good on you. Good on you.

            [–]NoLongerAPotato 153ポイント154ポイント  (28子コメント)

            [ ] Not good on him

            [✓] Good on him

            [–]dahelll 91ポイント92ポイント  (18子コメント)

            [ ] Still a potato

            [✓] No longer a potato

            [–]tr3v1n 69ポイント70ポイント  (15子コメント)

            [ ] Joke is getting old

            [✓] Joke is not getting old

            [–]livevil999 44ポイント45ポイント  (7子コメント)

            [ ] This box is checked

            [✓] The box above is not checked

            [–]AquaticBliss 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

            [ ] This sentence is false

            [✓] The previous sentence is true

            [–]RRRIIICKBRUISERRR 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You paradoxing ASSHOLE HOW COULD YOU?!

            [–]bradstah 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            [ ] Not a paradox

            [✔] A paradox

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              [–]postslongcomments 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

              [ ✓ ] Create alternate comment branch where paradox never occurred, but as a result everything is slightly different?

              [ ] Do not create alternate comment branch where paradox never occurred, but as a result everything is slightly different!

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                    [–]Brutal_Ink 50ポイント51ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    [ ] C-c-c-combo breaker [ ] beat dead horse [x] How do you do a checkmark?

                    [–]bobinort 81ポイント82ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    [ ] Look up alt codes

                    [ ] Use a character with a similar function

                    [✓] Just copy paste it

                    [–]skyman724 77ポイント78ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    [ ] Fuck you

                    [ ] Thank you

                    [✓] Get schwifty

                    [–]Gsus_the_savior 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    [✓] Take off pants

                    [✓] Take off panties

                    [✓] Shit on the floor

                    [–]dannytheguitarist 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    [X] open door

                    [X] get on the floor

                    [X] walk dinosaur

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                              [–]jonosvision 96ポイント97ポイント  (7子コメント)

                              This was uploaded 4 years ago and I'm just seeing it now? What the hell reddit!?

                              [–]whiskeytab 58ポイント59ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              ...you've only been on reddit for 3 years according to your profile haha. seriously though this was posted a ton of times and it is amazing

                              [–]jest3rxD 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              How did you miss it? It got posted all over reddit when it happened.

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                                [–]clearwater007 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Andy Levy reminds me of Jeremy Renner

                                [–]Amiable_Gnashings 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                With just a splash of Alan Tudyk, perhaps?

                                [–]faployst 75ポイント76ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                By far the most accurate statement ever made on the channel. That guy fucking destroyed brown.

                                [–]b1u3 59ポイント60ポイント  (65子コメント)

                                Redeye is usually pretty non-Fox News, though.

                                [–]ThatisPunny 46ポイント47ポイント  (62子コメント)

                                Well... Greg Gutfeld is on "The Five"... and his new weekend show...

                                I mean yeah, Red-Eye is quasi-satire humor... whereas much of Fox News is... Newsy.

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                                  [–]SunshineBlotters 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  One of the few times I applauded Fox News

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                                    [–]polaus 1574ポイント1575ポイント  (102子コメント)

                                    I guess some context is needed.

                                    In Australia we had a new Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, take over from Tony Abbott a couple of weeks back. Since Turnbull started in the job, several women have died at the hands of their domestic partners. This has sparked national outrage.

                                    The Australian Government has now, within the past week or two, announced a a domestic violence package and has pledged an additional $100 million to work on addressing the issue.

                                    Chris Brown has applied to enter Australia at a very good moment for our Government. Denying his visa is a political move, one of which I agree with personally. They are using this as a chance to take a public stance against domestic violence. Chris Brown has a number of young fans in Australia. The Government want to make it clear that he is not a suitable role model.

                                    Edit: Fixed some spelling.

                                    [–]Lemurians 191ポイント192ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Very helpful. Thanks. This makes a lot more sense to me now that I know about the recent events.

                                    [–]Lucky-bstrd 61ポイント62ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                    I hope it gets applied to sport people in future too.

                                    [–]Themirkat 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    Wayne fucking Carey shouldn't be on TV

                                    [–]federal_reserve_cock 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    They denied the visa to Floyd Mayweather earlier this year for the same reason.

                                    [–]dangermousejnr 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    "But... but... look at all my money! Doesn't that count for anything?"

                                    [–]__DesignerGenes__ 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    Well there goes basketball and football.

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                                      [–]GenericUsername16 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                      Do you know this was a political decision, made by a politician, like Peter Dutton or Malcolm Turnball?

                                      Because convicted criminals are denied entry all the time.

                                      [–]polaus 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Yes, you're certainly right in saying that convicted criminals are denied entry into Australia all the time. A refusal or cancellation of a visa under section 501 of the Migration Act 1958 (Cth) (refusal/cancellation based on character grounds) is to be made by the Minister or delegate.

                                      These high profile cases definitely make their way up to the Minister. Peter Dutton (current Minister for Immigration and Border Protection) has acknowledged that the executive have taken action to refuse Chris Brown a Visa. Further, Michaelia Cash (Minister for Women) has openly expressed that she would be recommending that Peter Dutton take steps to refuse entry to Chris Brown.

                                      So, yes. It's a political decision.

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                                        [–]TrepanationBy45 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Thanks for explaining that. I mean, I got the idea anyway, but it's good that you said it too.

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                                          [–]illmatic708 1124ポイント1125ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                          Unless he agrees to let a Australian kick him in the ass with a very large boot, then he may not enter the country.

                                          [–]LiquorballSandwich 398ポイント399ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                          Disparaging the boot is a bootable offense!

                                          [–]Victernus 165ポイント166ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          Well, it's one of our proudest traditions.

                                          [–]Officer_1-b-d-i 114ポイント115ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                          That's a bloody outrage it is! I'm gonna take this all the way to the Prime Minister!

                                          [–]Beefaroni420 133ポイント134ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                          goes to fence OI! Mr. PRIME MINISTAH!!

                                          [–]AvarRyrira 78ポイント79ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          ANDAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY

                                          [–]juntmaster 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          NINE HUNDRED DOLLARY DOOS!?

                                          [–]PrincipalAmzy 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          TOBIAS! DID YOU ACCEPT A SIX HOUR COLLECT CALL FROM THE 'STATES'?!?

                                          [–]AvarRyrira 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          OH MY GOD, THERE'S NOTHIN' WRONG WITH THE BIDET IS THERE?

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                                              [–]puppiesgoesrawr 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Hey! Mr. Prime Minister! Andy!

                                              [–]oliBAM 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Oi mate! What's the good word?

                                              [–]seantorious 48ポイント49ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              It's just a little boot in the bum.

                                              [–]smokinJoeCalculus 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              The flag

                                              [–]CSnopurpose 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              don't tread on me.

                                              [–]bogidyboy 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I'm surprised you were able to write so legibly on your own butt

                                              [–]Nermelzz 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              https://youtu.be/Pt4mwy9OBNA

                                              [–]balloonman_magee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Heehee.. look at this country, you are gay.

                                              [–]drunkenstyle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              What kind of a sick country would kick someone with a giant boot?!

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                                                [–]Shizo211 616ポイント617ポイント  (110子コメント)

                                                Rihanna forgives, Australia doesn't.

                                                [–]FlyAwayStupidKite 484ポイント485ポイント  (86子コメント)

                                                The day I heard on the news that Rihanna and Chris Brown got back together was the day I knew the girl had low enough self-respect that I at least had a sliver of chance to sleep with Rihanna.

                                                [–]Echelon64 288ポイント289ポイント  (59子コメント)

                                                I don't think that's it, it's much bigger than that. In general abuse victims try to find some excuse for their abuse for whatever reason.

                                                It's why in general you should never white knight for DA victims, let the proper authorities handle it.

                                                Or just never white knight at all.

                                                [–]E83PDX 136ポイント137ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                                Reminds me when I was back in my college dorm, I was walking to my room when I over hear a girlfriend and boyfriend fighting and was escalating quickly. She was yelling at him to leave and I pass by right when he grabs her. This is when I intervene, we end up getting into a scuffle in the hallway and she was able to close and lock the door.

                                                The next day they are in the dining hall having lunch like it never even happened. I felt so worthless. I hear that he ended up sending her to the hospital a few weeks later. He is in jail now.

                                                [–]OrangeredValkyrie 92ポイント93ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                It's why police dread domestic dispute calls the most. They know that if they arrive and even pull one person off the other, if they're also a couple, chances are the victim will start beating on the cops demanding the abuser to be released.

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                                                  [–]restthewicked 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                  What if there's a black knight terrorizing the village?

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                                                    [–]DismemberMama 77ポイント78ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                    That's very common in domestic violence situations and has less to do with self-esteem and more to do with emotional manipulation by the abuser.

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                                                      [–]8utthole 31ポイント32ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                      She lets you under her umbrella

                                                      [–]ilovezam 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      The South(?) Remembers

                                                      [–]Bobby_Marks2 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      To be fair, Australian Rihanna is much much bigger than American Rihanna.

                                                      And also poisonous probably.

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                                                        [–]rickashay19 214ポイント215ポイント  (132子コメント)

                                                        Didn't this also happen to Tyler, the Creator?

                                                        [–]cpmpal 180ポイント181ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                        He didn't beat anyone though

                                                        [–]SlouchingTowardsSLC 315ポイント316ポイント  (47子コメント)

                                                        Exactly. Tyler was going to get banned for the lyrical content of his music, which is ridiculous. Chris Brown is getting banned for his actions, which makes sense. Totally different.

                                                        [–]ThaDonKilluminati 90ポイント91ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                        bill o'reilly beat his wife...infront of their daughter. Where is the outrage?

                                                        [–]notmathrock 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        Exactly. Banning someone for lyrics is insane. Chris Brown on the other hand...

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                                                          [–]EffayStudios 44ポイント45ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                          It nearly did, but he chose to postpone his tour due to the controversy surrounding the visa, he got banned in the UK though.

                                                          [–]Joghobs 6ポイント7ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                          Why would they ban him ?

                                                          [–]itrainmonkeys 25ポイント26ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                          Lyrics. Literally based on words he wrote. Some of his old lyrics are certainly controversial but I am surprised he's been banned by countries (or at least almost banned) because of them. They are words.

                                                          [–]Amnerika 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          This would make Frank Zappa turn in his grave. He once turned down the equivalent of a Dutch Grammy he got because a edited version played after it was announced to alter a certain lyric. he said the guy who butchered his song deserved the award because the song was more that guys than his. also I feel like he was in court in England over some lyrics in a song he preformed at Albert hall.

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                                                              [–]VersaceSandals 53ポイント54ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                              Nah I'm pretty sure they tried to get him banned, but he just ended up cancelling the tour himself. Probably was going to get denied visa anyway.

                                                              [–]CRC4LIFE 39ポイント40ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                              He stated he was banned and cancelled his tour a few days before he was actually banned.

                                                              [–]VersaceSandals 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                              Yeah he tweeted saying he was banned (which I think turned out to be false?) which unleashed a fuckton of threats and shit towards the group and their leader (forgot her name) trying to get him banned. And so he did end up getting banned did he? I stopped following it once he cancelled the tour

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                                                                [–]DroppedMyPeaches 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                He was also denied entry to the UK

                                                                [–]Rapter5000 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                The difference is that Tyler The Creator didn't rape or beat up a woman.

                                                                [–]st_stutter 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                I know he was banned from the U.K.

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                                                                  [–]Krankite 334ポイント335ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                  Surely he can beat this

                                                                  [–]HyperLaxative 1253ポイント1254ポイント  (453子コメント)

                                                                  Domestic abusers enter and leave freely all the time in Australia.

                                                                  I am not sure why Chris Brown - as detestable as his actions were - is being treated differently simply because he is famous.

                                                                  [–]Crustice_is_ServedPlease disregard this message 411ポイント412ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                                                  he's being denied a work visa. Its not as if he's going on vacation. He cannot go there and perform or conduct business.

                                                                  [–]NatioLuporem 110ポイント111ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                  Yeah, a lot of people seem to be completely missing this fact.

                                                                  [–]SantaMonsanto 76ポイント77ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                  Thats actually a huge difference

                                                                  The wording makes it seem as though he's not allowed in the country. He's simply being denied the right to work (perform) in Australia.

                                                                  [–]perthguppy 10ポイント11ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                  He applied for and was denied a work visa. Same conditions apply to a visitor visa if you have a criminal record, so if he applied for that he would be denied as well

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                                                                      [–]DatJazz 543ポイント544ポイント  (108子コメント)

                                                                      Everyone else is making shit up but anyway, you cannot get into Australia with a criminal record.

                                                                      [–]vagabond2421 72ポイント73ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                      Depends on the criminal record. Any extended stay in prison disqualifies you and any assault charge is suppose to disqualify you as well.

                                                                      [–]Yorubaland 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      It's not the charge, it's the conviction that disqualifies you. People who are found not guilty of assault are still charged with assault

                                                                      [–]Sing_me_your_PMs 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      Your last sentence is wrong. If the disposition is "not guilty" then a person is no longer charged; he was charged, but not anymore. An on-going charge can make you inadmissible to a country for criminality because it constitutes reasonable grounds to believe you may be guilty (e.g. Murder, assault, etc.)

                                                                      [–]Yorubaland 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      True, I didn't think of that, good point

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                                                                        [–]SwingAwayBatter 468ポイント469ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                                        The irony is that's how the Aussies got there on the first place.

                                                                        [–]DatJazz 130ポイント131ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                        I know it is kinda funny but still, you can't go to america with a criminal record either.

                                                                        [–]JoelTheSuperior 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                        It depends. If you've committed a crime involving moral turpitude, whatever that means (ie it's sort of up to the guy at the border to decide) you will be denied ESTA (assuming you admit this when you apply for it, which you should do, if you've committed one), which means you have to apply for a visa, which may well then be denied, and then you'll have to apply for a waiver and then for the visa.

                                                                        Most countries I've seen have similar laws regarding this.

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                                                                          [–]MalHeartsNutmegPandora 33ポイント34ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                          No, a good bulk of the population were free settlers that wanted a better life.

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                                                                              [–]PMmeYourNoodz 79ポイント80ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                              Domestic abusers enter and leave freely all the time in Australia.

                                                                              that isn't 100% accurate.

                                                                              [–]Valleyman1982 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              Well it is accurate if they are citizens. But for a work visa... You'd have to have some water tight extenuating circumstances to get in. Fuck, it's not even 10% accurate. If anything famous people got special treatment in the past, which was bullshit.

                                                                              Canada and the U.K have denied that piece of shit before as well.

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                                                                                [–]UnoriginalRhetoric 129ポイント130ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                I am not sure why Chris Brown - as detestable as his actions were - is being treated differently simply because he is famous.

                                                                                Because he was well known enough, and his case high profile enough, and his visit planned far enough in advance that gave the citizens of Australia enough time and incentive to petition to their government to not give him endorsement for travel to perform.

                                                                                Poor abusive Chris Brown is just a pawn of circumstance in the machinations of Big Anti-Domestic Violence.

                                                                                [–]ChooChooBoom 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Poor abusive Chris Brown is just a pawn of circumstance in the machinations of Big Anti-Domestic Violence.

                                                                                Oh my god my sides

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                                                                                  [–]ShangZilla 978ポイント979ポイント  (118子コメント)

                                                                                  Government publicity stunt to take attention away from their other shitty stuff.

                                                                                  [–]PepeSilvia123 45ポイント46ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                  It may be a publicity stunt but the other side of it is that they send a public message that Australia doesnt accept certain behaviour.

                                                                                  [–]tomdarch 112ポイント113ポイント  (88子コメント)

                                                                                  Exactly what I was suspecting. I don't feel sorry for Brown, but it's bullshit that this pathetic government is going to grandstand using one guy as a distraction. I have the sneaking suspicion they aren't terribly effective at reducing domestic violence, domestically.

                                                                                  [–]Show_Me_Your_Rocket 341ポイント342ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                                                  Actually, domestic abuse is dealt with heavily here in Australia.

                                                                                  The issue is getting women to speak up about it.

                                                                                  [–]DazBlintze 55ポイント56ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                  And there have been a couple high-profile murders in the past week where men killed their partners in public places.

                                                                                  Another thing to consider is that our previous Minister for Women wasn't exactly cut out for the job.

                                                                                  [–]Jetbeze 375ポイント376ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                  You could always beat it out of them.

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                                                                                    [–]Bruce-- 49ポイント50ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                    The stats of domestic violence in Australia are apparently rising, which indicates that it's happening more (bad), or being reported more (good--means less is slipping under the radar).

                                                                                    [–]engebre5 17ポイント18ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                    Not just one guy, wasn't Tyler the Creator not allowed a visa a few months back?

                                                                                    [–]SendintheGeologist 101ポイント102ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                    Disagree. Mayweather was refused entry on same grounds this year.

                                                                                    [–]Inquisitorsz 34ポイント35ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                    And all the other celebrities denied entry due to criminal records. He's not being singled out

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                                                                                        [–]be-happier 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                        Domestic abusers enter and leave freely all the time in Australia.

                                                                                        false, criminal conviction = no entry.

                                                                                        [–]ControlBear 162ポイント163ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                                                        Perhaps because rather than just being a nobody walking around who almost nobody will remember, his personal character has the ability to greatly influence the Australian population as he will essentially be a domestic violence criminal on public display and glorified at massive concerts. The greater influence of your character, the greater responsibility to be a decent human being.

                                                                                        [–]seantorious 46ポイント47ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        There was a guy on reddit who caught his daughter and friends saying he was right to beat her up and had to educate them why this was wrong. When it comes to the stage that there are people that influential we need to hold them to a higher standard.

                                                                                        [–]ngulin 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        Domestic abusers enter and leave freely all the time in Australia.

                                                                                        source pls

                                                                                        [–]MaxFreedomMoussa 36ポイント37ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                        Domestic abusers enter and leave freely all the time in Australia.

                                                                                        Source?

                                                                                        [–]SuperCoolant 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                        Because everyone in the world who pays a hair of attention to our pop culture knows he's an abuser. The same could not be sad for Hank Fairfax of Hawaii, an unassuming manager of an Office Max whose violent outburst at his wife was never really entered into the public light and no one in Australia knows anything about. Also, Fairfax does not have an army of fans who he influences the morals and behavior of.

                                                                                        [–]TheKharmeleon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Australia isn't the only country who won't let you get a Visa for stuff like this. This isn't even that unusual, it's just that for some reason Chris Brown is still popular and touring.

                                                                                        [–]epicbrewtality 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        The best way to set an example is to use someone in the public eye.

                                                                                        [–]iolex 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Source one case...

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                                                                                          [–]CantHugEveryCat 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          I wouldn't even know who Chris Brown is if it weren't for the Rihanna beating.

                                                                                          [–]Tune-chi 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                          Can we refuse him reentry on character grounds. It would be hilarious to watch the game of not-it player by various ports of call.

                                                                                          [–]RememberEzio 79ポイント80ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                          Is this where I come to proclaim my moral superiority?

                                                                                          [–]JustinPA 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          To Australia or Chris Brown? In this thread both are acceptable.

                                                                                          [–]OrangeredValkyrie 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                          Depends. Have you beaten someone to the point of putting them in the hospital for very poor reasons?

                                                                                          [–]GenericUsername16 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          I beat my girlfriend to the point of putting her in hospital, but I assure you it was for very good reasons.

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                                                                                              [–]Vip3r20 136ポイント137ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                                                              The advocacy group GetUp created an online petition this month calling for Brown to be banned from entering the country, saying that allowing him to tour would send the message that Australia does not take domestic violence seriously.

                                                                                              “Chris Brown is not the point of this campaign,” a senior campaigner for GetUp, Kelsey Cooke, told Sky News on Sunday. “It is about domestic violence and taking that seriously, rather than turning a blind eye.”

                                                                                              Cooke said the “high-profile example” of Brown having his visa denied was a “good sign of the times changing”.

                                                                                              They're LITERALLY using Chris Browns celebrity status to bring awareness to their cause. If this has nothing to do with Chris Brown then why are they even involving him? He toured there in 2011 and 2012, wasn't a problem then.

                                                                                              [–]chetdude 180ポイント181ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                                                              Different Government back then. Also, the new PM just announced $100m funding towards stopping Domestic Violence so it was just really good timing for GetUp.

                                                                                              [–]Guerillagreasemonkey 52ポイント53ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                              And a 12yo girl was beaten to death by her stepfather...

                                                                                              Ill make "All she had to do was make the sandwich" jokes about domestic violence till the cows come home, but somehow I didnt see the humor anymore

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                                                                                                [–]xgozax 64ポイント65ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                They said "Chris Brown is not the point of the campaign" which means their main goal isn't banning Chris brown it's to bring awareness to the issue. Banning Chris brown is a means to bring awareness to the issue.

                                                                                                [–]fillingtheblank 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                They're LITERALLY using Chris Browns celebrity status to bring awareness to their cause.

                                                                                                You say it as if this was something bad.

                                                                                                [–]cherak 44ポイント45ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                If this has nothing to do with Chris Brown then why are they even involving him?

                                                                                                You answered your own question:

                                                                                                They're LITERALLY using Chris Browns celebrity status to bring awareness to their cause.

                                                                                                Not really seeing the problem with this.

                                                                                                Also, why are you talking about domestic violence against women as being 'their cause'? - it's a pretty huge cause and a very important one, they're hardly alone.

                                                                                                [–]Bingotatter 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                Guy's a piece of shit, and his career absolutely should be in ruins. This is good. And you're such a little cunt for trying to throw rhetoric around.

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                                                                                                  [–]labadee 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                  He has already been banned in Canada, the UK, NZ and other countries as well for the same reason. This isn't an entirely new development.

                                                                                                  [–]Chestnut_Bowl 58ポイント59ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                                                                  Seems odd to this now, six years after the attack.

                                                                                                  [–]grawsby 99ポイント100ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                  A few weeks ago 2 women were killed by their partners in very violent and public circumstances. (One was run off the road then beaten by her partner, another was shot close range at a McDonalds) Another woman was chased in the street with a machete by her partner. A young girl was found dead in her home, dad was arrested later in the day.. his other daughter was injured as well. Another girl, just the other day, was found dead - her stepfather has been charged.

                                                                                                  And then there was the girl who was picked up from school, taken out to a farm and killed by a male friend. While that happened there was yet another body being looked for by another woman who had been picked up and is now missing, assumed murdered - she was pregnant.

                                                                                                  All of this was happening over the last month.. maybe two months. And most of it happening in one city.

                                                                                                  Now the reason it's "NOW" is because our new Prime Minister stepped up instead of burying his head in the sand, he launched a new cabinet, including putting a woman on as the Minister for Women. He then announced $100m to go towards funding Domestic Violence, retraining police, increased support. And, while that was happening the Minister for Women did say she wasn't too keen for Chris Brown to be entering the country - New Zealand had already blocked him, why not us.

                                                                                                  Will it stop men from beating women? Probably not directly. But it is helping to open a conversation and for us as a nation to say "No, we don't accept that." Yup.

                                                                                                  [–]samdaman222 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                  There have been a spate of domestic violence that have been high profile in Australia in the last couple weeks. The govt is flexing some muscles and just spent $100M in attempts to improve the rates of domestic violence.

                                                                                                  [–]evanescott 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                  He has committed a number of other crimes, including assault, in recent years.

                                                                                                  [–]Adon1kam 48ポイント49ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                  This group managed to get Tyler the Creator banned even though he doesn't have a record for this stuff, just things in his lyrics.

                                                                                                  [–]NothappyJane 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                  Well, he hasn't had a good enough career to this point to come out to Australia.

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                                                                                                    [–]shittyp0stwonder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                    "is shithead" sounds valid to me

                                                                                                    [–]Donnadre 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                    Commonwealth countries like Canada, UK, Australia all routinely deny entry to anyone convicted of a serious crime. This should come as no surprise to Brown's lawyer, unless that lawyer is incompetent.

                                                                                                    [–]JawnLee 53ポイント54ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                                                                                    I'm still mad no one in the industry checked him for what he did. Instead, they all befriended him smh. No rapper, nobody checked him.

                                                                                                    How can these niggas have no problem with what he did? If I'm an industry nigga I'm puttin that nigga on smash in front of everyone. I'm talkin son presents me with an award I'm swinging on live TV type shit.

                                                                                                    Downvote me all you want, but I'm just bothered that he never truly got what he deserved out of all this. Bad press doesn't mean shit to duke considering he used the situation to turn into a bad boy and not give a fuck.

                                                                                                    Now he actin like a jealous psycho over Karrueche who dumped him LAST YEAR. Anybody likes her pics on instagram or takes a pic with her and he threatens them.

                                                                                                    He needs a beating, man.

                                                                                                    [–]Sadsharks 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                    They let Dre do it too.

                                                                                                    [–]Acheros 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                    Nobody in the mainstream put him on blast. Plenty of underground rappers had lyrics about him after it happened.

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                                                                                                      [–]Pwnspoon 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      He got the boot

                                                                                                      [–]moistbutter 38ポイント39ポイント  (43子コメント)

                                                                                                      Good. I dont see how a man that beat one of the worlds biggest pop stars can still have a thriving career and supporting fanbase.

                                                                                                      [–]misbrichi 32ポイント33ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                                      same way a dude who murdered tons of dogs could come back and be the starting QB for a playoff NFL team. you do the crime, get punished, and then you can start re-building your image.

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                                                                                                        [–]Martin-wav 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        ITT: people who hate said celebrities but can't stop talking about them

                                                                                                        [–]akckkc 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        Favourite part about this was his post on Facebook claiming that presale tickets sold out in 2 minutes- I work for Ticketek and we still had tickets left before the call to deny his Visa was made public.

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