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Naughty America's response to why Bitcoin subscriptions are 66% more expensive than Credit Cards... (i.imgur.com)

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[–]i_can_get_you_a_toe 33ポイント34ポイント  (47子コメント)

Ask them why you're gonna get your porn from torrents from now on.

[–]A__Random__Stranger 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would be a hilarious response to that asinine email

"Your material costs 100% less through torrents.

Thanks,

Your former revenue stream"

[–]rydan 1ポイント2ポイント  (33子コメント)

I'm going to steal your stuff because you charged me more to use bitcoin?

[–]_supert_ 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

Fun fact: Porn is not copyrightable in Germany, as not a 'useful art'.

[–]incorrectlyapplied 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Any official German sources stating this?

[–]Halfhand84 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any official German sources stating this?

No, they're all too busy fucking off camera.

[–]BlacknOrangeZ -3ポイント-2ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're in the wrong sub if you think it's ok to do something wrong just because an arbitrary law happens to permit it.

[–]XMooseThrowaway 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd say online piracy is morally ambiguous at worst.

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a little bit difficult. If someone creates digital content to market as their product, then I don't think you have any right to use that if you are unwilling or unable to pay the requested fee. You could definitely argue, however, that it gets a bit morally unclear when, due to geoblocking for example, a willing consumer is not permitted to transact with the creator. On one hand, the product is not for sale in the region, the seller hasn't really lost any potential income from that piracy and is probably completely unaware and unaffected. On the other, you've still gained from their creative endeavour and avoided paying them for that with the convenient excuse that you can't; what right do you have to profit from them against their will?

And though I was speaking in vague terms, I was replying to a specific example. If someone produces porn and distributes it freely as art, then fair enough. If someone produces porn as a marketable product, then I'm not sure you have any right to pretend that just because you live in Germany you can ignore their pricing, costs, and intellectual property rights to claim their product for "free" due to some arbitrary state categorisation of their product.

[–]Brizon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd assert that intellectual property has no real basis in reality and therefore people have no real claim to their creation besides in some made up capitalistic construct. I don't see the immorality here.

[–]theswapman 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're the one in the wrong sub, pal. Information and knowledge should be free and open to all.

and why don't you stop being such a humongous smug hypocrite talking about how unjust "arbitrary state laws" are and then citing

intellectual property rights

which are just arbitrary state laws, as a valid reason for copyright nazis to use state violence to coerce consumers

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So how is a company that makes games supposed to survive?

How would we get Hollywood blockbusters if producers can't charge a dime for the film they've invested $50m to create?

Where is the incentive for Apple, for example, to create the iPhone if Chinese factories will simply copy the software onto their generic identical replica and openly market it for 1/10th the cost?

What would be the point of R&D in medicine, technology, science, entertainment, etc if there are a dozen competitors looking over your shoulder waiting for the moment you have a breakthrough so that they can benefit from your extremely expensive investment. Do you have any idea how quickly and completely that would destroy innovation in all of those industries?

If people make a porno to sell it, to cover their production costs and hopefully even profit, then they have every right to. It's their work, that's the deal, that's fair. If you want to view it, then pay the fee. If you don't want to view it, don't pay the fee; if you don't want to pay the fee, don't view it. If some 3rd party authority announces that all porn is now free, does that make it ok to benefit from that person's work without paying? What right does that authority have to make such a ruling?

Maybe I am in the wrong sub. I thought there was a significant proportion of libertarian/anarchocapitalist types here.

[–]Kaell311 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't aware we had established the perfectly moral copyright laws. Tell me, which country if any had it right? And why are the others choosing to be morally wrong?

[–]Explodicle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since copyright is a moral right and not arbitrary itself, for how long is one entitled to it? Are only governments justified in doing something about it?

[–]lechango 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're in the wrong sub if you think it's wrong to do something just because an arbitrary law happens prohibit the sharing of certain bits and bytes.

[–]esterbrae 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're in the wrong sub if you think it's not ok to do something good just because an arbitrary law happens to prevent it.

[–]BlacknOrangeZ -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. If this was meant as a counter argument, you'll have to explain how.

[–]A__Random__Stranger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Steal it? Is he going to break into their office and swipe their drives, or do you just not understand the difference between copyright infringement and theft?

[–]i_can_get_you_a_toe -5ポイント-4ポイント  (17子コメント)

Oy vey, a porn company will lose a few cents, it's gonna be the end of the world, let me get my fucking violin.

[–]ToroArrr -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Torrents? What are you old? Its all about the pornhub