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[–]Rashkolnikov 203ポイント204ポイント  (22子コメント)

The guy is Hans Teeuwen, he was a good friend of the murdered filmmaker Theo van Gogh, who was killed by an islamic extremist.

[–]DeltaForcePanda 27ポイント28ポイント  (17子コメント)

was this before or after the shooting of this show? Just curious, but I'd assume it was before.

[–]Darminian 15ポイント16ポイント  (15子コメント)

I'd like to believe it was after just so I could be more impressed - let me know if anyone tells you.

[–]Hiterally--Litler 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

I just recently finished Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book, where she talks about being threatened by Muslims after speaking out against Islam, and she didn't really live in Holland after Theo was murdered due to the danger. As she was mentioned in the video, I'm guessing this was before that happened.

[–]rannie_pophe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder what if medieval Muslims knew that a French doctor made them his favorite subject in his prophecies. What would they have done to him?

[–]cukls 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I remember reading about that when it happened. So sad that it happened that way. Never did see that film, I'm going to try and find it.

[–]lordperiwinkle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is on youtube...submission is the title.

[–]Texas_sniper41 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya but he was asking for it for being a bigot and not politically correct!! /s

[–]theyrflockingthisway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Christopher Hitchens mentions Theo van Gogh in this clip where he urges people to resist Islam.

[–]Willravel 107ポイント108ポイント  (23子コメント)

The really sad thing is if they understood this guy's worldview at all they would have known better than to try and trap him that way, because they stood about a 0% chance of doing so. They're trapped in their own perspective.

[–]itsadate 59ポイント60ポイント  (13子コメント)

The questions they asked where the same over and over again. Instead of actually listening to the points he was trying to make and maybe learn something, they ended up thinking they were right and he was wrong. This is when I ask myself, what was the point of this "debate", if I can hardly call it that, for those women?

[–]BrokelynNYC 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oddly they called him out on using "one-liners" but that's not what he did. It was what they were doing...

[–]Gengar1118 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I asked for the news not the weather. I asked for the news not the weather. I asked for the news not the weather.

[–]helsquiades 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

The point of debate for most ideologies is to reinforce one's own ideology lol

[–]ZQMFGB 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Debate rarely influences the opinions of the participants except perhaps to deepen their conviction to their point of view, it's entirely for the benefit of the audience.

[–]jkljhlgfjh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

well, stupidly it opens up a lot of talking points for those on the fence. the debate did nothing for the womens POV but im sure there'd be a few converts the other way.

[–]Lurker_IV 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

what was the point of this "debate"

Its called 'daytime talkshow TV'.

[–]sufficing 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're trapped in their own perspective.

Living a devoted religious life-style tends to do that to people.

[–]TranquilBeard 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

Religious people think only they are allowed to be offended, but in reality, their entire religion is an insult to logical, good people everywhere.

[–]Willravel 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's certainly true that no one has a monopoly on being offended, as the comedian mentioned. The biggest problem is that absolutist philosophies—be they religious or political or economic or social—can't exist in modern pluralist countries. When your belief system says that no other belief system can exist, you're just begging to be a destabilizing factor in otherwise mostly stable places. Unwillingness to compromise, making out the other side to be evil instead of just another viewpoint, having a mandate to force your beliefs on others, etc. instigate completely unnecessary culture wars. I've seen Islam and Christianity and nonbelief coexist without any kind of major compromise of convictions or beliefs. All it takes is giving tolerance a chance, because tolerance is the first step to acceptance, so we can all stop fighting about things like religion and get back to what really matters: videos of Russians stopping people from driving on sidewalks.

[–]TranquilBeard 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Goddamn Russians, what will they do next?

[–]diMario 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Drink themselves into oblivion, as per usual.

[–]lurkers_unit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

With talk like that, are you really much better than these women?

Think about that.

[–]Yapshoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have you tagged, so i can remember to gild you when i'm not such a poor mofo

[–]RepostThatShit 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The sad thing is these people don't belong in a modern civilized society and can't adapt to one and we're bringing them in by the fucking truckload.

[–]Willravel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know that I would say "can't adapt". Some are adapting just fine. Others either actively choose not to assimilate or run into cultural (or economic, or political) roadblocks that they have difficulty getting around. The trick is to accept with open arms those who adapt as new fellow countrymen and aid those who have run into roadblocks by showing a willingness to engage in mutual compromise. By showing them humanity, you not only behave ethically but you also make it difficult for those who refuse to assimilate to get support. They end up isolating themselves from their own assimilating communities and face pressure not from without but from within to stop being stubborn.

One of the realities of living in politically stable countries is you're going to have immigration from less stable places, and fighting against it is an exercise in futility. It's not easy, of course, and certain lines do have to be drawn, but I'd have to imagine members of a civilized society can figure out how to let new people in without treating them as if they're all uncivilized by default.

When and if Syria finally becomes a more stable state and refugees return home, I think it would be better for everyone if they come home with stories of generosity, understanding, tolerance, and pluralism from their time as refugees. It's difficult to hate someone who has treated you with dignity and aid in your time of most desperate need.

If they're going to hate anyone, they should hate the Assad regime and the Russians/Soviets that backed them.

[–]RedPandabator 56ポイント57ポイント  (12子コメント)

how do these muslim women get an intolerant show like this in the netherlands? Are they guest hosts? Wtf is this?

[–]jackblack2323 37ポイント38ポイント  (3子コメント)

Europe likes embracing cultures that don't integrate well. They aren't very smart people.

[–]Freddy_Fedora 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

becoz if you wouldn't eat a bowl of immigrant shit you are literally a racist worse than hitler.

[–]Tzarlexter 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You would make a great spades player.

[–]drewpdoane 29ポイント30ポイント  (17子コメント)

Did they say, "We asked for the news, not the weather" in English?

[–]Gundamnitpete 26ポイント27ポイント  (13子コメント)

Most dutch speak english as a second language. In school they must choose another language to learn, most choose English because it's more similar to dutch than german/french/italian, and because it's the international language of bidniz.

Also means The Netherlands is a great place to visit as an English speaker.

Edit: corrected, must speak English AND another language.

[–]HelIoMeow 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

English is mandatory. Next to English, we have to choose another language, which could be German, French, or another modern foreign language.

[–]rumpumpumpum -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes, I was going to say that I had seen a documentary on polyglotism (speaking several languages) and the Dutch on average speak something like 5 languages fluently, which is amazing to me.

[–]HelIoMeow 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

5? No way. Most people's English is ok, but don't expect the average Dutch person to be fluent in German or French.

Just because we have to learn one or two languages in high school, doesn't mean we actually learn to speak them very well.

[–]MasterPsyduck 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I learned a few languages in high school and college (I'm American) and I can safely say I would not be fluent or very good at speaking/interacting with people in the languages I learned. I would have to probably live in the area (or maybe have a pen pal I called and wrote) to get a feel for the language since just learning it academically doesn't drive it home (at least for me).

[–]Vikingbloom 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The countries that teach English as a mandatory language often show a lot of English speaking movies and music. And now with the Internet there's a lot more English interaction from young age. It's also normal to start learning it from 6-7 years old.

The second language that gets thought is rarely used and often starts teaching later. So most people learn the super basics for tests and forget it all within a few years.

[–]ice_cu 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, that's a myth. I've heard it before and I don't know where that even comes from. We speak Dutch and English (everyone <60 y. speaks decent English) and that's about it. If we're talking to German people we'd rather just speak English because our German is gonna be broken and full of gibberish. Our French is almost non-existant, so that's "fluent" in like 2.5 languages.

The Flemish on the other hand are completely trilingual, they speak Dutch (native language) English and French fluently.

[–]rumpumpumpum 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ok. Yeah, I tried to find that documentary I saw but it was so long ago and it was only briefly mentioned, I had no luck.

[–]ice_cu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Strange how a little unchecked "fact" like that can slip under the radar somehow. I've heard Eddie Izzard claim the same thing, as well as some documentary. I wonder what the fifth language is? Danish, Spanish? lol.

[–]drewpdoane 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

So, do they just say some colloquialisms in English, like English speakers will say "c'est la vie"?

[–]lopendepaddo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Friends of mine start speaking English when they are drunk, They are as dutch as they can be... I think it's the Internets fault :P...

Mostly Dutch people integrate a word here and there from English into their speaking. Although this isn't thru for everyone. Most dutch people speak at least some English and most people of higher education speak fluently.

[–]Maxbet 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everybody has to take English in school. You can choose to do German and/or French (and/or Spanish, Latin ect.) on most levels. VWO has 2 foreign languages minimum though if I remember correctly.

[–]CarlCaliente 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh damn did not know this. I'll have to visit for the Ronde one of these years

[–]WhereAreMyBeers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they were trying to get under his skin with little jabs and failed.

[–]Geo_Hon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were the only ones using 'one-liners'

[–]YoshSchmengie 71ポイント72ポイント  (6子コメント)

Bimbos in Berkas

[–]germz05 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

100% accurate.

[–]smoothisfast22 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Those aren't burkas

[–]Repealer 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

alliteration is fun tho

[–]foyamoon 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

50% accurate.

[–]fuzeebear 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

50% is an F no matter where you go.

[–]Archeval 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

but hey they are in something though so i would say that's 60% and D's get degrees!

[–]warry0r 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was awesome, I love this guy! He just earned a new fan.

[–]spurlockmedia 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

"An insult is a truth that people are not ready to confront, or rather not confront at all."

He's hit the nail on the head.

[–]KrazyTaxiMan 56ポイント57ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cunts complain he is saying the same thing over and over when they keep asking the same question expecting him to suddenly say "I fucking hate you muslims" or something.

[–]Pyehouse 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I might have read it wrong but is that show called Bimbo's & Burkas ? that's funny right there.

[–]TheSortOfGrimReaper 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

That last comment... He says "well that is not what I meant", and the woman replies, "it doesn't matter, that what we understood it to mean."

Jesus Christ.

[–]TheVegetaMonologues 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It all comes down to feels > reals

[–]digital_end 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

What language is that?

[–]scruffy_water_mammal 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dutch

as spoken in The Netherlands

[–]digital_end 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gotcha. My wife was right again, haha.

[–]BurnySandals 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

For a small fee I'm sure /scruffy_water_mammal would be willing to change his answer so she never has to find out.

[–]azertii 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Funky german. Also known as dutch.

[–]zaviex 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dutch. Which sounds like a German having a bad go with phlegm

[–]lowrads 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's sad that europeans have to have these conversations on their own continent when they've already moved past them hundreds of years ago.

[–]DavesEnnui 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

this thing with being insulted is a little weird. their line of thinking is just really incompatible with western society. no one can every insult of ridicule you? really? lol, you're going to have a bad time...

[–]twogreenvials 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

And they do, and then they kill the insulter.

[–]canadiancarlin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's really interesting was that when he said he draws the line at violence, the women felt it was completely justified since he was making them "boil with anger." As if being insulted was a perfectly good excuse to kill someone.

[–]remyseven 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

talk about thin skin

[–]Oedipus_rekts 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hmmm, wonder what would happen if they had "slap a Muslim to a rack and make him questions about extremists" show staring jerks in merkins.

Fuck this shit.

[–]RepostThatShit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just extradite these shitstains to the moon. Their god will save them I'm sure.

[–]BlackPresident 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

jerks in merkins

Solid show title.

[–]Oedipus_rekts 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Solid fashion choice if we push it hard enough.

[–]BlackPresident 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jerkin' around the merkin.

Beating around the bush.

The palm in the jungle.

There should be a whole line of hair related fashion accessories.

I bet there's a ton of people who have that laser hair removal and then regret that hair is back in.

[–]TyneyTymey 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If someone asks someone else the (idiot) questions about freedom of speech that those women are asking that man...

regardless of what he says, how he says it, or if he dumbs it down... they are "not going to understand".

No one expects the (burka) inquisition.

[–]NOWiEATthem 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can someone provide some background on what show this is? I googled "Bimbos and Burqas" but I'm not getting much information. Is it supposed to be a comedy show? Is the crowd usually on the hosts side? They certainly seemed to be backing the guest this time. And who was the religious-looking guy they kept cutting to for stoic reaction shots?

[–]Veeno_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember watching this a while back. Great video. Made me laugh again

[–]nudemonkey 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man I really hate religious people, not all of course just the inability to understand other points of view some religious people have.

[–]roofied_elephant 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They keep asking "but why must you insult". The reaction they're giving him is precisely fucking why. Shock Comedians are trolls. That kind of reaction is exactly why they say the things they say. How is this so hard to understand?

[–]Just_Another_Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes I miss slotting the snackbars.

[–]themantherein 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He should have just told them individually how hot they were. Then he could just say whatever.

[–]twogreenvials 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

5:23 gorgeous man

[–]Pastogen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man those random english outbusrts were pretty unexpected.

"Hurt me baby!"

[–]TheVegetaMonologues 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]-SPACETARD- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"One develops a shield to deal with these things. That's what you do in a free society. Because you are inevitably confronted with things you don't like".

This man gets it. The current PC culture needs to understand this shit.

[–]Commander_Travis -4ポイント-3ポイント  (12子コメント)

[–]NiveKoEN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This video is scary to me as an American who lived in Germany for 3 years. If I went out into the city and walked to buy some fast food there would be Muslim people on the sidewalk following me afterwards, talking about their "kingdom" and speaking Arabic. One time I was followed for a few miles and had the sense to get lost in a crowded area before returning home. This video is startling and probably a little over the top, but I can see evoking pathos in the European populace when you don't feel safe on your own streets.

[–]Ischuros -2ポイント-1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Hm. It's pretty quiet in my neighbourhood.

[–]AlmostPrimate -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are religious people allowed to think that their belief is a belief and not necessarily the truth?

[–]sccdemir -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

We require incredible evidence for any sort of truth-based claim on every field known to man but religious people get a pass on this. Our tolerance to let people be willfully ignorant and posses warped views of reality has caused and is still causing humanity a lot of pain. So yes they are, but in truth they shouldn't be because people only commit atrocities in the name of what they think is the truth.

[–]roastbeeftacohat -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

anyone got a transcript, right now I don't feel like watching a video that I'm just going to have to read anyway.