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[–]SoRaiseYourGlass 37ポイント38ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't think you are wrong. You expressed an opinion about how this hookup culture makes people percieve you. Which is true. Some of my friends think I do drugs (I havne't touched any of it) Or I have wild orgys all the time (Also not true). Purely on the fact because I am gay.

People are jumping into this whole "slut shamming is bad" bandwagon too quickly. Don't let a few students who probably use tumblr to do all their activisim make you feel like your uncomfortable feelings towards hookup culture are wrong. You are you. You are entitled to feel that way.

[–]dreadnought_scout[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think my issue reflects an issue nearly any progressive movement has. To differentiate itself from the status quo, it is common for progressive movements to take the most absolutely radical position and then turn around and attack people who aren't quite as radical.

I just believe there can be a middle ground between being "sexually repressed" and having a culture where sexual imagery is being forced onto you, even if you don't want it.

[–]somekook 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you seen straight culture?

[–]YmirTheBear 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

We see it everywhere, every single day.

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[–]Reraizure 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

As part of my university's liberal arts core...

This is the issue here. University is a time when young people discover a broader world and new outlooks, yet still lack some of the fundamental perspective and maturity required to handle the new philosophies they encounter with equilibrium and wisdom. So, young (meaning early-mid 20s) students often express moral outrage based on concepts they think they have a full grasp of without taking the time to critically reflect on their true understanding of said concepts. It's a bandwagon.

I'm an older university student, and myself and the other elder students witness this trigger-happy moral outrage every single day (today it happened in a professional ethics lecture). We used to be those students. We've noticed it significantly subsides once a student has gained a little real world experience. I'm sure that must make us sound arrogant and condescending, and perhaps we are, but it doesn't make the situation any less true.

You are not slut shaming. Your classmates are the ones treating you unethically by attempting to disallow your legitimate expression of your independent viewpoint, which as you state does not involve you judging the behaviour of others in any way.

[–]Thirdatarian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

By nature of the fact that sexual attraction is the defining point on which the gay movement is based, it makes sense that it's what is most prevalent from our culture. For what it's worth, I agree with you that hypersexualization of gay culture is problematic because it creates the "right" way to be gay. If you aren't "sexually liberated", you're repressing your sexuality and a prude. Gay culture is synonymous with hypermasculinity and promiscuity because it tries to distance itself from hyperfeminine stereotypes and repressed adolescence/religious intolerance (in general, in my opinion). This is all sorta related to your post, but suffice it to say that I don't think not fitting into a super sexualized culture means you are slut shaming.

[–]madmaxfury 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you're not slut shaming. You're totally fine.

[–]sweetmatter 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have a right to your feelings of uncomfortability. Those are valid feelings. Classes like these are opportunities to use post-modern thought and ask yourself Why? Why do you feel uncomfortable next to sexualized gayness? I'm not going to tell you the answer to that question, but do some soul-searching and deep thinking and meta analysis. The answer to that question is the reason why the class you're in exists.

[–]John2Nhoj 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, not at all.

It sounds like you're dealing with a hypersensitive, militant PC crowd, who are often like (no mind of their own) members of a zealot group-think cult.

Many members of the gay community are like this too, believing there is only one way to be gay and they are in charge of dictating the correct way to be gay to everyone else and if you're not exactly like them then you are self loathing with internalized homophobia lol!

Ignore that bullshit and don't allow anyone to ever hijack your right to think and do for yourself.

[–]sjgrunewald 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care if someone goes out and barebacks every dude at the bathhouse every night of the week, I just personally wouldn't do it, and the thought of myself in that kind of situation makes me uncomfortable.

This is not slut-shaming

I also don't see how it's slut-shaming to be critical of the fact that the image of the gay community tends to be hypersexual and, frankly, bordering on pornographic.

This is a little, tiny bit slut-shamey. Gay male sexuality is often demonised and ridiculed in a way that straight male sexuality isn't and never would be. But I wouldn't have made a big deal out of it, just chalk it up to typical college overreaction and move on.

[–]avian_buddha 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're allowed to be uncomfortable with the hypersexualized gay community. I don't know why 'slut-shaming' is seen as bad when nearly 1/5 gay men have HIV. There have been good societal reasons for 'slut-shaming', such as to decrease incidence of childbirth out of wedlock and to prevent the spread of STDs, or to foster the formation of long-term emotional attachments, and these reasons are still valid.

[–]AlejoHoots 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Slut shaming stops HIV? Oh, that's news to me.

Slut shaming if anything increases HIV infection because people will be too riddled with shame to talk to their doctors about their sexual history/activity and get proper treatment.

How about we encourage people to be open about their sexuality in whatever form it takes for them without casting aspersions towards anyone? We live in a world with murder, corporate greed, the death of the environment and yet we want to police a built in human capacity for shared pleasure? Really?

And it's laughable that you intimate you can't have a lot of sex and have long-term emotional attachments. Really. Think about that one.

[–]avian_buddha 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a deliberate misinterpretation of what I've said.

Creating an environment where promiscuous behavior is looked down upon serves to lessen the frequency of that behavior.

And yes, people who have had many different sexual partners have a much more difficult time creating long-term emotional attachments with just one sexual partner.

In the words of Kurupt:

"Now this (this) is one of them occasions, where the homies not doin it right. I mean he found him a ho that he like, but you can't make a ho a housewife."

[–]victoriasbitter 0ポイント1ポイント  (17子コメント)

I just don't see how something you have no part in can bother you.

I mean if you don't like the idea of hook ups, just don't have one!

Sorry you were attacked like that, but I guess that's something to be expected in a class that probably consists of a lot of our old mates over at /r/tumblrinaction

[–]dreadnought_scout[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (14子コメント)

Other people's sex lives don't "bother me." What bothers me is the fact that sex is treated as a commodity in gay culture. What bothers me is that most gay "cinema" is softcore pornography with marginally better production values. What bothers me is that as a gay man, I cannot go into most gay spaces without being bombarded by sexual content. What bothers me is that as soon as I am somewhat critical of a hook-up culture that honestly hurts and exploits a lot of vulnerable young people I'm "slut-shaming."

I'll admit that I'm into absolutely filthy, kinky sex behind closed doors, and I have no problem asserting those desires with my partner. I educate myself about sex, and I take control of my sex life. I don't care what other people do in their private sex lives, I just find overly sexual displays in public to be a bit uncomfortable.

[–]victoriasbitter -2ポイント-1ポイント  (13子コメント)

Okay, I understand your point!

I'm not studying this, so I don't know if my opinion is really a valid one, but hear me out:

Being gay, at it's very core, is being attracted to the same sex. So when you visit these "gay spaces" why are you surprised that it's sex orientated?

These places aren't knitting clubs; being gay isn't a hobby we all have in common. It's a sexuality, and when you get a bunch of people with the same sexual orientation together, you're bound to be bombarded with sexual content.

[–]Firecrotch2014 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

Ive been to a few straight clubs and they dont have anyone dancing in cages like Ive seen at most of the gay clubs Ive been to.(youd have to go to like a strip club for that I guess) What he's saying makes sense to me. Gay clubs are a prime example of the oversexualization of the gay community. Gay pride parades are another one. You have guys running around in their tighty whiteys golden beads around their neck. Do you really expect the rest of the world to understand without being judgmental? I mean its one thing to have a good time and but its another thing just to be an attention whore for attention whoring sake.

[–]lazygerm 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think what we are forgetting is that we are guys... As formerly recently straight person, you could not get away with having cages with women in straight bars because there would be serious outrage by women. Plain and simple. The women who would do it or enjoy it, would probably be slut-shamed.

This is why the only socially acceptable place to see that is in a strip club.

What this discussion is missing is the difference between the sexes and the politics that go along with. Obviously because we are gay...homosexual.

We forget that we are hardwired differently because we are dealing with ourselves. I agree that it may not be my cup of tea...I have not had enough experience yet to form an opinion.

I find it terribly exciting and foreign to my previous experiences as a straight guy.

[–]Firecrotch2014 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then if you couldnt get away with it in the straight world why is it acceptable in the gay world? As we've been saying thats just another example of how overly sexualized our general culture and gay culture specifically have become.

I dont buy into this whole we're guys so it means we like sex more than women bit. There are places like hooters that are opening up for women now. Theyre kinda the new big thing. I think before now they didnt think there was a market for that kind of thing but they are finding out that there are women out there who want to look at half naked guys running around serving them food.

[–]victoriasbitter 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's cool if you identify with that side more, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here.

I've been to plenty of straight clubs too, and I find that it's just as sexualised, I've seen plenty with poles, foam parties, and pretty much sex on the dance floor.

I don't know if I really expressed myself properly. I'm trying to say being gay is a sexuality, of course "gay spaces" are going to be sexual!

If people will view you differently because they are judging you on a large, sweeping scale of what they see at gay clubs and pride parades, maybe that's their fault for being ignorant and judgemental?

I find gay clubs and pride parades to be a bit too much for me to handle personally, but I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

You wanna run around in your tighty whiteys wearing golden beads around your neck? Go for it! That's not really your thing? All good! There are places that are a bit more toned-down you can go to as well. Everybody has a place here, and nobody's doing anything wrong as long as they're not hurting anybody.

[–]Firecrotch2014 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

If being gay was in a better place in society where we werent stigmatized all the time by the mainstream then I wouldnt have such an issue with gay clubs and pride parades now. As Queen Latifah's character said in Hairspray we have, "a foot in the door one toe at a time." If you act like a fool who cant keep his dick in his pants do you really expect anyone to take you seriously? Probably not.

[–]victoriasbitter -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Okay, it's getting a bit personal with that last sentence, and a bit crazy on the other comment, so I'm just gonna leave it there. Please just be accepting of the stigmatised, don't cater for the stigmatiser. Please be nice to people!

[–]Firecrotch2014 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is that personal? I dont mean "you" as in you personally I meant "you" as in the universal "you". How can anyone act like a fool who cant keep his dick in his pants and then expect to be taken seriously?

Is that better? :P

[–]AlejoHoots 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you also have to look at it as a numbers game. Here in NYC the economy can support a variety of gay spaces and not all of them are sexual (or even bars). In a smaller town a gay space needs to be all things to all people and let's face it, for many gay people finding a safe space to desire who you desire is elemental. If you live in a big city that is more accepting and has more variety, we are privileged we are given this safety in a variety of ways. Not so much elsewhere.

That said, the Internet is a very handy tool. If you want a non-sexual gay space, set one up in your area on Meetup and arrange it. Create a book club, a movie night, a wine tasting, a hiking club. Sky's the limit. BE THE CHANGE.

[–]findingxanadu -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

gay men have been sexually oppressed and forced into closets since the dawn of time, now we're in an era when they can freely express their sexuality any way they want to and you want to shame them for it? your comment is really similar to the homophobic ones you see from reddit brogressives...

[–]Firecrotch2014 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just because gay guys were sexually repressed since the dawn of time doesnt mean that they should automatically go to the opposite spectrum and let it all hang out to the wind. I mean if that were the case by right African American people should be able to enslave white people and beat them and torture them as they see fit and treat them like property, right? No of course not. We are supposed to be a civilized society, not rabid savages who let every natural desire rule our every action. Just because you want to get your dick wet every night of the week with 2 or 3 different guys every night doesnt mean that you should do it.

[–]findingxanadu -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

why are you equating sexuality to race? civilization = less sex? lol why are you trying to control how often gay men have sex, it's literally none of your business, what happens in their pants is their own problem, not yours,

[–]Firecrotch2014 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As both are oppressed minorities its easier to sympathize with the other's plight.

And it becomes my problem when i cant go to a gay pride parade without having to see 90% naked guys running around acting like idiots. That reflects badly on the gay community as a whole. When im compared and treated as though im running around like a fool like they were when i woukd never do anything of the sort. Lets be real. Peopke generalize and stigmatize specific people who belong to whatever group they belong to. Gays get stigmatized as sex crazed fiends in part because of what happens at pride parades.

[–]DefectiveSpoon 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doesn't /r/tumblrinaction make fun of these kinds of people?

[–]victoriasbitter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, sorry that was unclear. I was referring to the people they post about.

[–]youarejustanasshole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

critical of the fact that the image of the gay community tends to be hypersexual and, frankly, bordering on pornographic.

Can you link to what you would consider typical hypersexualized gay images? What images are you basing this statement off of?

[–]_kore_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think you're slut-shaming, but you sure are making a statement about other people's lives and what you think of their behaviors. Is that a bad thing? Not really, especially since you were in an open discussion about the topic.

However, don't assume that only hetero normative, monogamous relationships are valid. Lots of straight, gay, bi couples have non-monogamous relationships and if that works for them great.

I'll echo some other posters here - this attitude reigns supreme during ages 18-25 in the gay community. I found myself saying these same things when I was starting University. As I grew older, I realized that my understanding of love and relationships had to evolve.

[–]BrobearBerbil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being fast to attack an opinion is an early college trait. As you progress, you'll see that the smart students are patient and reason through things without thinking they know the right answer first. I think it has something to do with high school training people to just know all the right answers instead of being critical thinkers.

[–]pat-mcgroin-1970 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're half and half, in my opinion. You're right to say that you're allowed to be uncomfortable with some aspect. That's a personal choice, and yours to make.

The moment you use the word 'critical' of the subjectively hypersexual community is where you start to morph into the shame nun, just a bit.

It's one thing to opt out. Nobody is forcing you to be a slut. It's another to be critical of others.

I also don't necessarily agree that gay culture is over sexualized, more so than any culture that doesn't involve kids. That's changing a bit, as gays are increasingly allowed to adopt and have kids, but you put a group of adults together in an enclosed space for any amount of time, and it's going to get randy and horny. Even a group of straight men are overtly sexualized, just in a straight way. So, this also might be a source of backlash when you single out one group as being hypersexualized, when not recognizing the same or similar in other groups. Plus, the media doesn't help persuade the public opinion much. It's probably undeniable and quantifiable how hypersexualized the gay media is, but that's not necessarily an accurate representation of reality. Just like the extreme standards of beauty are not real as represented in teen girl and women's magazines.

[–]weendogtownandzboys 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Voicing your value judgment of hook up culture is textbook slut shaming. You are welcome to those thoughts but when you voice them in public to people participating in that then you are shaming them.

[–]Daydreamerjt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it bad to have laughed? I think you're okay. We have the same opinion pretty much.

[–]karnim 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would actually say that in the context of the course, you were slightly in the wrong. There is no issue with you not wanting to do it or being uncomfortable thinking about yourself doing it, but it is something you need to be able to discuss in the course (since it came up). I would certainly be uncomfortable cutting someone open to perform surgery myself, but I would need to be able to discuss it academically (ignoring my personal feelings) were I in an anatomy class.

It gets difficult in the social sciences, particularly when you are studying your own group. By speaking about your own experiences within the culture, you're tainting your study of the culture.

[–]TS_Venture_PHD 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand your point about preconceptions tainting an objective study of a culture. However, could you really say that in the 2000's forward a gay "cutlure" really exist? Culture being generally defined as, a set of beliefs, moral values, traditions, language, and laws (or rules of behavior) held in common by a nation, a community, or other defined group of people... I think in the era of the AIDS movement and Stonewall riot you had a more defined "culture" because one needed to exist to advance a movement. Whereas now, being gay translates into much more than a specific thing. You have opportunity to live whatever type of life you want and being gay just not a defining factor anymore (for some). Do you think because of broader acceptance and resulting diffusion in the "mainstream" that a gay culture at large really exist? Thoughts?

[–]Isimagen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you slut shaming? Not directly, perhaps not at all. I think it's an easy trap to fall into though. I hope, in a good class anyway, they will learn they shouldn't jump down your throat so easily and perhaps you'll expand your horizons and understandings as well.

My issue is this: We have room for ALL types in our community (Our community being gays, men, humans, etc. whatever you want it to be.) The gay community has for a very long time been unable to have traditional-style pairing relationships safely in most of the world. As rights movements have gained momentum that has been more acceptable by society in general. But during those times where pairing and long-term relationships were unable to be safely experienced, men still had urges. So they acted on those urges when they had the chance to do so. Sometimes just finding another man to have sex with was all that mattered, the guy himself didn't even matter to some because you couldn't be picky.

So now, we're here and there is pressure for us to conform to "traditional" (re: conservative) models of relationships or sexuality. This is good and bad like most everything. Where it goes wrong is when you have people in the community that start to exercise intolerance towards those that helped them gain rights in the past. (Again, not black and white.) We have been raised to believe that life is man + woman + 2.5 kids + pets + picket fenced home. Many wanted that because they were taught that's the "best" way to live. This has confounded huge numbers of straight people too. How many women have lived with issues because they didn't want children? How many men just wanted to be single and sleep around but couldn't due to society? The "gays" didn't have to worry about that until recently.

For me personally, I don't slut shame though I do tend to judge behaviors by how I'd react if these people were in my life. An example: If you're someone who barebacks non-stop without any precautions or thought towards diseases, I don't condone shaming you as such but I think you're really misguided and I have huge issues with you being so careless because the rest of us pick up the bill for your treatment via insurance or walk-in healthcare costs. If you could sign a waiver of accepting no funds from the rest of us, I'd say have at it.

If you sleep around because you enjoy sex and are careful, take precautions, and make a best effort to find out about STIs and such beforehand, I have no problem with that as you're making an informed decision with responsibility. People may not LIKE that but I think we shouldn't be so quick to condemn it. Sex, especially in the USA, has become something rather shameful. A huge part of this is part of the fabric of the country and our roots. We were made up by a bunch of very, very conservative people who were so conservative that they felt persecuted and came here. So of course that lingers. This is why much of the world chuckles at us being so violent and accepting violence without question while we hold congressional hearings when a nipple is shown on tv.

So, rambling and perhaps making no sense, I just suggest that you consider why you feel the way you do in order to get the answer to your topic question here. Why are you uncomfortable with the sexuality of others? Is it different when it's straight people doing the same things you dislike in our community? Do you have the same issues with similarly charged topics?

[–]amelie_poulain_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the fact that you made a post here asking if you were in the wrong makes me believe you're a perfectly rational human being with a preference, not a "slut-shamer"

[–]TS_Venture_PHD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't really get mad at the "community" as a whole because people want to generalize and stereotype. Same gender relations have always been stigmatized as some form of deviancy. So I suppose it's understandable that gay folks would continue to be seen as not fitting in with the hetero-normative paradigm of monogamy, commitment, 2.5 kids and a dog. However, the thing is most straight people don't do a great job of prescribing to that paradigm either. That image is just granted to them because they have a wife and a kid although their marriage is a wreck and the cheat on each other constantly. Or the straight single guy who is a complete man-whore just "hasn't found the right girl yet." No one seems to care what he or she's up to as long as they can live in a dillusion where the world is or will be how they want it to be in their mind because the bias exist regardless of how you or I act. I don't know why they aren't demonized for it as much as gays, I suppose it has something to do with what I mentioned above.

As far as slut shaming is concerned I don't know how we ended up in a place where we are some how obligated to condone the behaviors of everyone else. You certainly shouldn't treat someone disparagingly simply because you do not agree with their values or lifestyle. But, you don't have to march in the parade they throw for themselves to justify their choices either. They are who they are, you are who you are. We are all different in our own unique way, that includes the way we think about things and how that affects how we act. So slut shaming, because you don't agree and voiced that opinion, I vote, no.

[–]ikonoclasm -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Here's the thing about opinions: until you've experienced something, you can hold an opinion, but it's not worth much. You don't know first-hand what you're talking about. You were raised with the societal mores inflicted on Western by such delightfully irrational religious groups as the Puritans and Catholics. You hold those opinions because that is how you were raised, not because you have any real world experience to back up the claim. You were raised to believe that open expressions of sexuality are hypersexualized and pornographic, with your connotations clearly being negative. That right there should be a big tip-off that you're slut-shaming when you consider either pornographic or hypersexualized to be de facto negative qualities.

If you had a mile long list of guys you'd fucked and weren't able to find someone to settle down with, your opinion would be worth considering as you'd have experienced the hypersexualized hook-up culture that puts low priority on intimacy and emotional connections. You've made it clear that you do not, so your opinion comes from a position of ignorance and rote recitation of the values you were raised with, which do slut-shame.

[–]dreadnought_scout[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like how you just automatically assume that I've never participated in hook-up culture. Buddy, I was the guy down at the bathhouse when I was eighteen trying to hook up with everything that had a pulse, I was the guy on Manhunt who thought all he wanted was to have sex all the time. The reason I'm uncomfortable now with hook-up culture and the omnipresence of sex in gay spaces is because I really feel like those experiences damaged me emotionally. It made me realize that I need intimate connections, and I was able to find more empowerment in being modest and selective about how I expressed myself as a sexual being than by spending every Saturday night with a new dude from Grindr.

[–]Firecrotch2014 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep you said it! Thats exactly why I feel that "hooking up" and "opening a relationship" are the exact reasons why people are so emotionally stunted/damaged now a days. When you expose yourself to that much sex or sex with someone you dont have an emotional connection with it makes certain people emotionally numb. Then they wonder why they cant find anyone to settle down and have a life with. If you go out and have meaningless sex and then try to suddenly slam on the breaks and change gears its going to take a toll on you mentally. I always asked myself is getting my dick wet for maybe 30 minutes with some stranger really worth the emotional fall out that would come after? The answer for me was always no. I think the only way people can separate sex and emotion is to become emotionally desensitized to it. Society doesnt help either when theyre flashing body parts at us on tv and magazines every 2 seconds cause they know sex sells. Thats why we dont bat an eyelash when we see someone's head get blown off on network tv anymore. Its also why guys on the internet and apps will just block you for no reason. They have no emotional connection to you to keep talking to you, so why should they? We're just too desensitized to it. I think thats gonna have some long reaching repercussions for future generations to come.

[–]thequirkyguy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

( '-' ) here's an up vote good sir +1

[–]Peemster99 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amen, brother.

I had a pretty similar experience coming up, and I think that it's incredibly telling that pretty much nobody is capable of actually arguing for hookup culture. They can insult, whine, deflect and maybe make snark a little about how sex is nothing different from taking a shit, but they can't say a word about beauty, passion or love.

[–]Anconia80 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't care if someone goes out and barebacks every dude at the bathhouse every night of the week...

Maybe you weren't slut shaming, but your statement makes it pretty clear that you would of given half the chance. I've never "barebacked" anyone but my husband and would never condone it, but your statement drips with self-loathing and hate of sexuality.

[–]dreadnought_scout[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't hate sexuality, and I'm not self-loathing. I'm very confident in myself as a sexual being, and I assert my sexuality in the way I want. I'm just bristling at the idea that my desire for a more intimate, private sex life somehow invalidates the choices of others and makes me a bad member of the gay community.

[–]everyone-is-a-victim -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, that's why you wanna avoid anything to do with the LGBT community. Everyone's an over sensitive butthurt. The LGBT community pretty much goes hand in hand with the age of the feminazi.