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[–]Cringe_Revolution 272ポイント273ポイント  (232子コメント)

Complaining about MRAs and "Rape Sim" videogames.

The funny thing is this was probably drawn by a legbeard. Meta.

[–]Pacer2020 22ポイント23ポイント  (31子コメント)

What's a MRA ?

[–]lapzkauzactually it's called a "trilby". 86ポイント87ポイント  (1子コメント)

M'lady's Righteous Avenger

[–]dior_show 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is my new favorite name for them.

[–]DontMentionLobsters 28ポイント29ポイント  (18子コメント)

Martinique Rifle Association. It's quite small.

[–]BaldHubert 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mascara Refund Army

Apparently it is a bitch to return mascara because its disposable. The issue has become pretty heated with mascara consumers banding together to fight for the right to return faulty product within 30 days.

[–]2kittygirl 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll take lashes for our lashes

[–]bunker_man -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

An obscure subreddit that some people think is this infinitely large body of people for some reason.

[–]RetardedSquirrel 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, at least they got the large body part right.

[–]martini29>tfw no indian gf 227ポイント228ポイント  (176子コメント)

MRAs are pretty cringey though. I mean i can get behind better divorce laws so you don't get fucked six ways to Sunday and all that but all they do is fuckin complain about feminism

[–]WeHaveIgnition 135ポイント136ポイント  (121子コメント)

There are a lot of legitimate issues that need to be addressed in our society. But so many MRA groups just complain about new wave feminism.

Divorce laws, child support law, Child custody laws, Paternity leave(this is often coupled with Maternity leave), Male suicide rates, work place death rates, homelessness, VA care is often times a male dominated issue.

[–]Poopsturrbator 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd also throw circumcision in there too.

[–]nope_nic_tesla 38ポイント39ポイント  (43子コメント)

Not to mention toxic masculinity and the alienation of men who don't fall into traditional masculine gender norms.

[–]CactiChill -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I frequently go to Italy, which is an extremely masculine country for someone like me(Dutch). When I go out to eat at a fancy restaurant they give my gf the menu without prices. And waiters never make eye contact with her or ask her anything. Compared to the U.S. They react pretty mildly on gay people getting married. I think that says a lot about the U.S. And their "masculinity" (the way a lot of us men dress casually also says a lot dare I say).

[–]Poogans 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you're confusing "masculine" with "sexist" because the things you described are sexism.

[–]CactiChill 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It often goes hand in hand though.

[–]rootyb 10ポイント11ポイント  (14子コメント)

There are a lot of legitimate issues that need to be addressed in our society. But so many MRA groups just complain about new wave feminism.

This is what prompted the creation of /r/menslib.

[–]KTY_Fat Pink M'ast 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is what MRAs were about less than two years ago (at least on Reddit). But they were constantly being ridiculed by certain feminist groups ("Feminism fights for these issues too! So your group shouldn't exist!") so over time it became less about fighting injustices men face and more about fighting feminism/false rape accusations and that's when I abandoned ship.

[–]iaruoksid 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Plus they spend way too much time complaining about how men have it so shitty, when the feminists they hate are actually trying to fix their situation. All I ever see them do is bitch about the draft law, which is one the things feminists are trying to repeal. They care less about actually helping and more about disproving sjws.

[–]Caelrie 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

All I ever see them do is bitch about the draft law, which is one the things feminists are trying to repeal

And at the same time, these guys usually oppose letting women join combat units. That's the men's rights movement in a nutshell... Bitch endlessly but perpetuate the problems instead of trying to fix them.

[–]TheJewsisLoose -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let's take this moment to ackowledge that we can have daughters today and they can actually grow up to be that admittedly annoying like Honduran chick from aliens

[–]JesusWasABlackMan -1ポイント0ポイント  (52子コメント)

But so many MRA groups just complain about new wave feminism.

Luckily, the MRA community on Reddit isn't one of those groups. They raise awareness about all the issues you mentioned...

Divorce

Child custody

Paternity leave

Suicide

Work place deaths

Homelessness

[–]TedTheGreek_Atheos 62ポイント63ポイント  (16子コメント)

All those posts are old as fuck. Just look at the front page now. At least half are bitching about feminists.

[–]Bannakaffalatta1 47ポイント48ポイント  (16子コメント)

Luckily, the MRA community on Reddit isn't one of those groups.

I don't think we spend time on the same website man.

[–]doomsday1216 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

"raising awareness" is a key phrase today that means "doing nothing but making a lot of noise online about something"

[–]TeelxFlame 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

MRA community on Reddit

[–]iaruoksid 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Half the stuff you linked is whining or moaning about a topic. Now, its not anti-feminism, but it sure isn't anything close to discussion. They're not raising awareness, they're circlejerking.

[–]RandomRedPanda 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Holy shit, /r/justneckbeardthings has actually been overtaken by neckbeards.

[–]goblinthunder 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nice argument

"Fuck, cant come up with anything constructive... I know, ill call them neckbeards! This'll be awesome."

[–]RandomRedPanda -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey, why don't you tell us how to better win an internet debate. Because that's totally not what /r/justneckbeardthings mocks.

Lol.

[–]jacob8015 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep no more internet debates. Fuck trying to further your own knowledge by examining other viewpoints this is the internet, we're only allowed to be funny here, anything else is too kneckbeardy for me.

[–]ZombieRonReagan 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

But its so much easier to use the straw man argument and say they hate women.

[–]Dunkcity239 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

As someone who's been through the whole paternity/custody ordeal. I support the idea of men's rights. The community on reddit gives it a bad name to the point where you can't even have a discussion about the issue without being labeled a woman hating neckbeard

Dude until you spend a day in family court or see how men get fucked by these laws you won't really understand. It's such an unfair system it's hard to believe it exists

Obviously women have their own issues but this shit is something that effects me personally so I'm more inclined to bitch about it online

[–]sonny_sailor 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck it I'm on a 5 hour car trip I have time for this story.

It was summer time in Michigan and school was coming up. I had been fighting off a cough that my mother was worried might turn into something more serious. My father calls up and asks my mother if I can come with him on a fishing trip in Traverse City. My mother declined saying I was ill and unfit for the trip. He proceeded to scream at my mother over the phone and proclaimed he was divorcing her (all because I was sick and could go fishing, bullshit.).

The following years were absolute hell. All throughout middle school I had to repress my guilt for not doing as my father asked and spent many many months going to the court with my mother who had custody of me (and shouldn't have). She was a housewife, not a provider. She relied on hand outs from church and what small child support she got from my father(initially). Her refusal to work made me resentful towards her and caused major anxiety on my part. Some days, after sitting in court, I would go back to school and throw up in the restroom before returning to class worried about what the others would ask. I lived in constant fear people would find out. My mother was very public about her situation however and it left many parents baffled and soon other kids began to poke fun. Pokes turned to jabs which then turned to stabs and they got more vicious.

Because she was so public about her situation she was given a scarlet L for lazy as she refused to work. She felt that she was entitled to help from everyone because she was going through a divorce (one which she prolonged far past its expiration date). It wasn't until 8th grade the divorce was finalized. However she continued to harass and demand more money from my father (who was by no means innocent in this whole endeavor). Every time she asked for more money, the court said yes. They fed her bullshit and it just got worse. My siblings ( three) were all at different stages of development, myself being the oldest. When I turned 18 I was kicked out because I no longer "paid the bills" with my existence.

TL;DR mother used me to get entitlement money from father.

[–]Fudgms 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thankfully I have never had to experience that. However I have heard stories (from reliable people) about how fucked the custody system is.

Most memorable one is the woman failed a drug test 3 times and still got custody over the father. And it tested positive for hard shit, not just pot.

The system is willing to send a baby to a cracked out mom over a clean father.

[–]Dunkcity239 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was very fortunate to win custody of my daughters. But it wasn't easygoing it was almost a two year process and cost about $5000. Whereas the mom was eventually ruled an unfit parent. I still had to spend so much time and money and she was just the winner by default. Even after close to a year of no attempt at contact with the children the judge was very reluctant to give me full custody

[–]BrainBlowX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you taken so much as a gander at their actual frontpage, rather than those ancient threads? It's basically populated primarily by redpillers.

[–]natanaj -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

true. All ive seen on this thread have been feminist bs and straw MRA arguments.

[–]nouakchott1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I knew it. I'm surrounded by neckbeards.

[–]DontMentionLobsters 51ポイント52ポイント  (8子コメント)

making fun of neckbeards

...

making fun of legbeards

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supporting some things that some neckbeards support

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supporting some things that some legbeards support

http://i.imgur.com/Up8bbjr.jpg

[–]WarWeasle 27ポイント28ポイント  (7子コメント)

No one uses DOS anymore.

[–]DontMentionLobsters 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

/r/retrobattlestations does

I actually wonder when hipsters will start using MS-DOS ironically.

[–]dbx99 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Random parts of the government uses Dos

[–]the_wandering_nerd 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does George R. R. Martin count as a hipster?

[–]DontMentionLobsters 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Until he gets off the beach and finishes the goddamned series, he'll count as whatever the hell we want him to, that lazy bastard.

[–]derfherdez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are the ones demanding 3d card acceleration for Quake 2 for MS-DOS..... Even better, they did it.

[–]RumpleForeSkin72 7ポイント8ポイント  (13子コメント)

I was banned from /r/ mens rights (no linky from me to that bastion of whiners) for having that audacity to suggest that one has the obligation to care for a child born... whether one wanted the pregnancy to go full term or not.

They actually feel that they should hold no responsibility or obligation to said child because they wanted to abort.

Selfish, petulant children is what they are.

[–]goblinthunder -4ポイント-3ポイント  (12子コメント)

If you agree with abortion, why would you agree with that?

[–]RumpleForeSkin72 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

I fail to see how supporting abortion enters the equation...

Are you insinuating that support for abortion is the same as their willful abandonment?

[–]goblinthunder -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

I support abortion. Since a man cannot force a woman to abort, he should be able to opt out of having to raise a child in the same way abortions do for women

[–]RumpleForeSkin72 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

I too support abortion, but when there is a third human being involved as well, shit starts to get fuzzy regarding responsibility don't you think?

Is having unprotected sex the same as making a donation at a sperm bank?

[–]goblinthunder -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

No, but same goes for women. If a chick has unprotected sex, and doesn't want a kid, should she be able to have an abortion? If a guy has unprotected sex and doesnt want a kid, he doesnt biologically have the option to have an abortion. So should he be able to walk out? I feel thats fair.

[–]RumpleForeSkin72 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

"a/the kid" isn't some inanimate object, I don't understand why you seem to be so dismissive of that.

In this scenario now that it does in fact exist, is it fair to the child that dad just didn't feel up to it?

[–]goblinthunder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good response. A response to that would probably be, if the man isnt prepared to be a father it might be worse for the kid than not being a father. Its definitely circumstantial, like putting a kid up for adoption. My view has been shifted a bit by your response.

Edit:wording

[–]theJigmeister -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why isn't the mom who birthed the baby without a willing father in the picture shouldering any of the blame? It was her choice to have a fatherless baby in that scenario.

[–]2kittygirl 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

At that point, it's no longer about your rights, it's about what's best for the now-real, living human child that needs food and clothing.

[–]goblinthunder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This argument actually changed my view a bit. See my last comment in this chain :)

[–]mullanaphy 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first stuff I heard from MRA were divorce/alimony stuff and kind of went "yeah, that makes sense", then I went to some of the subreddits and just didn't even know what I was looking at anymore... It was a scary and sad place...

[–]Loop_Within_A_Loop 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's because it's the counterpart to tumblr feminism.

[–]HubbaMaBubba 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's the counter part to normal feminism?

[–]Loop_Within_A_Loop 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the groups in Canada who try to respond politely to the tumblr feminism people who shit over anything they try to do?

[–]coolmap 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Some MRA's only complain about feminism, like how some feminists only complain about MRA's and men. I don't think it's really fair to judge either group on the actions of some.

[–]BrainBlowX 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Some MRA's

r/mensrights does literally nothing but complain and whine with "the feminists/women" as either the direct threat, or implied as an evil, lurking force in the background screwing over men.

And yes, I am using the word "literally" correctly here. I wish I wasn't.

[–]coolmap 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol but a bunch of whiny faggots on reddit doesn't embody a whole movement, just like a bunch of whiny bitches on tumblr doesn't encapsulate the whole feminism movement.

[–]BrainBlowX 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They dominate pretty much every discussion you can find on the internet that isn't heavily modded.

Doesn't matter if it's reddit, newspaper comment sections, youtube, etc etc etc They've spread like the plague over the past couple years, and are more vocal than the "sjw" boogymen they fear ever were.

Now you've even got fucking presidential candidates like Trump pandering to that crowd with the "I don't like political correctness" shit. And he's still at the top of the polls.

[–]coolmap 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not liking PC has been a thing long before MRA's man, and it's not really an MRA thing at all. You're just generalizing a whole group, and that's not cool dude.

[–]bunker_man 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are, but they're an obscure thing that is on more or less reddit only. The average neckbeard has probably never heard of them. Which means making them into a huge thing is like people being paranoid that radical islam is out to get them in america. They're not a synonym for every annoying person.

[–]sweetjingle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone complains on both sides. Fuck both of them. Live life and try to get equal, not over the other person and be an asshole.

[–]robeph 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

MRAs aren't so cringey themselves, what is is that the radical mix of TRP into the MRA groups and their acceptance of that. It's no different than the sound feminism which has been overtaken by radical feminism in almost every group. They can't simply do away with them because then feminists themselves become ousted. It is unfortunate for all of the closer to midline involved.

[–]natanaj -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

femminists are annoying as fuck though. I dont blame them

[–]Augtheripper 21ポイント22ポイント  (11子コメント)

Those things are pretty neckbeardy though, I wouldn't say this is a "legbeard" kind of opinion.

[–]bunker_man 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It kind of is. Like how radical islam is bad, but... if someone sits around paranoid about radical islam at random times, it tells you more about that person than about some group that you're never going to see otherwise. The name mra is used by a few people in obscure parts of the internet no one else goes to. The people complaining about them are probably 90% of when most people hear about them. And then they randomly justify this by using mra for everyone they dislike, some of whom have no idea that the term even exists, and are nothing like them.

[–]PolackTopKek 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

Legbeards are known for constantly complaining about MRAs and "rape simulator" videogames. Despite the fact that in the real world most people have never heard of an "MRA" and there's yet to be a shred of evidence that playing videogames affects real-world actions.

[–]FriendlyCommie 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

I... I think rape Sims are distasteful regardless of whether they cause actual rape.

[–]DepravedMutant 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is people talk about "rape sims" as if you could go into any gamestop and pick one up. They're an incredibly niche thing that you'd have to seek out if you wanted and really aren't worth worrying about.

[–]Deceptichum 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you hear GTA is a misogynistic women beater sim?

[–]ImperatorTempus42 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What are legbeards?

[–]zombiehunter696 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tumblr feminists.

[–]ImperatorTempus42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahhh. Thought so. So, the term 'SJW' is taboo and/or off limits?

[–]vattenpuss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, them upvotes. I had no idea this sub was populated mainly by neckbeards.

[–]WatchOutRadioactiveM 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Pretty sure the artist is Dave Kelly aka "Shmorky," some gross babyfur who did The Flash Tub on SomethingAwful and also did LP's with Lowtax.

EDIT: Yyyyep. Thanks u/theporkster