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HUMOR[Humor] Tonight's Rick and Morty certainly had some choice quotes (imgur.com)

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[–]BansheeBomb 189ポイント190ポイント  (60子コメント)

First South Park and now Rick and Morty. It seems to finally be socially acceptable to disagree with these slacktivists.

[–]Spork_Of_Doom 73ポイント74ポイント  (9子コメント)

"Now" Rick and Morty?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOBoKxEcVAA

[–]katsuya_kaiba 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was hoping for that video, was that video, am pleased.

[–]ZorbaTHut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hell, that's the video that got me into the series.

And now I can never leave.

[–]Evenon 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ghazi comments on this scene:

Iirc, that was a scene highlighting Ricks hypocrisy and him being an asshole to Morty's rational explanation for Rick not being allowed to say the word. I'm pretty sure the viewer isn't supposed to side their politics with Rick's (case in point: Raising Gazorpazorp)

The point there, i thought, was that Rick was being an asshole to Morty's rational, reasoned argument. People sided with Rick because "what is satire"

[–]Spork_Of_Doom 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Justin Roiland has gone on the record, multiple times, as hating SJWs.

[–]ZorbaTHut 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The politics of Rick and Morty are kinda complicated. Rick represents cold callous rationality - he would cheerfully sacrifice one to save two, or five to save himself. He is not a nice person and Ghazi's right on that point, we're not meant to side with him.

Morty, however, represents naivete. And if there's one recurring plotline in Rick and Morty, it's that Morty's naivete is constantly smashed upon the rocks of realism.

Morty's nice. We are meant to like him. We are meant to agree with him. And the show makes us suffer for it, because in the end, Rick is right.

(Usually.)

[–]RarelyReadReplies 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Forgive my ignorance, but who's "Ghazi"?

[–]Evenon 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/GamerGhazi

[–]non_consensual 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

'tis a silly place

[–]RarelyReadReplies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ohh oops. I thought it was the username of some person that you guys idolized or something. Like your hero falling off his pedestal type of thing. Thanks.

[–]LILwhut 88ポイント89ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's society that's stupid and not us!!!

-SJW reply

[–]achesst 79ポイント80ポイント  (2子コメント)

Am I so out of touch? No...it's the children who are wrong!

[–]zenmod3 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

"south park is dead"

[–]studiosupport 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why, there's no one here at the 4H club either!

[–]Zero132132 44ポイント45ポイント  (32子コメント)

Still can't tell if we have something to do with it, or if the shifting cultural zeitgeist is why GG went the way it did. Either way, FeelsGoodMan

[–]randdomusername 73ポイント74ポイント  (23子コメント)

South park has always disagreed with this type of thing, we had no effect. I'm sure the people behind rick and Morty also just feel this way

[–]The-red-Dane 31ポイント32ポイント  (13子コメント)

Exactly, in the case of South Park, they've had to fight against the PC crowd since they started.

[–]thegreathobbyist 38ポイント39ポイント  (12子コメント)

Except it was easier back in the day because it was mostly mothers and religious zealots. That's easy just to laugh off or make fun of. But today, the PC crowd has a different makeup to it

[–]The-red-Dane 20ポイント21ポイント  (10子コメント)

And Scientology, and black people, and politicians, and celebrities, and Mormons, and Japanese, and Canadians, and so forth.

South Park has been pissing off people for a long time, they're VERY used to being told "You can't do that!" and they've only ever relented ONCE, which was Muhammed, and then they made an episode making fun of the fact that they had to censor a picture of Muhammed that ended with Muslims "retaliating" with a drawn picture of Jesus taking a poop (if I recall)

[–]LuminousGrue 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Canadian here. Can't think of anyone I know who ever found South Park specifically offensive to Canadians.

[–]favoritedisguise 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except for Scott, he's a dick.

[–]DeeDoubsFounder of Kek's Giving Day 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

What did the Japanese and the Canadians ever have to say about South Park? Hell, or Mormons for that matter (remember that the end takeaway of the Mormon episode was that while Mormon was a profoundly stupid religion with a profoundly stupid origin, vanilla Christianity was still equally stupid in both respects)? I don't recall South Park ever getting much backlash outside of Scientology and Islam.

[–]Polymarchos 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

Actually I remember from the commentary on the Mormon episode that the episode was well received by the LDS.

Mormons are quite comfortable with what they believe.

[–]blessedbyyeezus 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Somehow that's awesome

[–]Onithyr 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's even better is their treatment of the Book of Mormon play written by the same people who write South Park. They actually bought ad space in the play bill with lines such as "the book is always better".

[–]mandatory_french_guy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And they have the same reaction to "The Book of Mormon" actually!

[–]Wawoowoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I couldn't find a satisfactory answer, so you'll have to settle for this:

NSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7lxSI8Irno

[–]DeeDoubsFounder of Kek's Giving Day 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't even know why they bothered to provide new dubs for some of these.

[–]Roast_A_Botch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Matt and Trey didn't censor that episode, Comedy Central did after telling them it wouldn't. They're just as shocked as everyone else when it aired. They had no intention of holding back, as they'd already featured him drawn in Super Best Friends(which CC stopped re-airing after all the controversy), as well as having him in the intro,(without anyone noticing I guess) for well over a year.

[–]VaccuousCDROM 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is so important to grasp. Pretty soon our generation will be known as the parents who censor their own children. It will be like the 50's all over again.

[–]BeardRex 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Dan Harmon has always made fun of it.

[–]demiurgency 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wait, what? Because my best feel on Dan Harmon (after watching Harmontown) is he appears be SJW lite. Have I got him all wrong? I would be happy if so.

[–]Ad__Hominem 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Justin Roiland is definitely the social libertine on the show.

Dan Harmon is more of a liberal progressive type, but he's spent enough time on the unpopular side of public opinions to not believe in compromising artistic integrity in the name of appeasing the masses.

[–]mandatory_french_guy 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

My impression based on the various podcasts I heard is that he shares a lot of "social justice" ideologies (as do I, for that matter) but he will absolutely reject any form of censorship or "thought police". And while he have his own ideologies he'll be very comfortable making jokes about the worst subjects without flinching. Because it's humor and that's what he respects.

[–]GarryMcMahon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Social Justice People are cool. It's the Social Justice Warriors who are cunts.

[–]hydromorphone_dream 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I got that impression as well. I think that when speaking publicly as themselves, a lot of celebrities are legitimately fearful of being crucified for holding the wrong views. Including their true feelings in their creative work is the only way for them to be honest without having their career be ruined.

[–]BeardRex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Listen to the Harmontown podcast, watch Rick and Morty, watch Community. Not trying to pin down your politics over one term, but "SJW-lite" tends to be used by people on the right (not saying being on the right is a bad thing) to describe leftists who are nothing like SJWs. It's like calling a conservative a neo-con or christian a bible-basher. He's definitely on the left, but he hates extremists on both sides. I think he'd agree that there are inequalities and double standards we face in first world countries but that there are more important things to worry about. Also, he's very much against censorship of media. I can't remember if it was on Harmontown, but I remember him making jokes about people thinking video games cause violence and other bad stuff.

[–]hydromorphone_dream 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's because they are intelligent critical thinkers. Anyone who is would see this SJW bullshit for what it is.

[–]theaviationhistorian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It just shows that this generation of socjus became so large that it infected outside of the scope of GamerGate. If they weren't an annoyance in other areas, they wouldn't have been picked up on the radar of these TV show writers.

[–]Polymarchos 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

South Park has always been extremely libertarian in their philosophy.

I think it was Trey Parker who said, "I hate Conservatives, I fucking hate Liberals."

[–]Zero132132 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't just mean South Park. I hear more rumblings about this shit elsewhere in the real world, and I definitely didn't a year ago.

[–]TheCodexx40k GET! 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think we did. Before us, it was a lot easier to bury complaints of their attitude by cutting it off from a soapbox and labeling it as "bad". And it wasn't on anyone's radar. Ironically, even people who were publicly very anti-GamerGate started complaining about websites pushing agendas. Patton Oswalt is probably the most notorious celebrity who agrees with us in principle but won't acknowledge that because he's convinced we're the baddies. Oh well.

It's fine is they put us down as bad people. They can call us the villains. I don't mind. I'm not here to improve my reputation. I'm here to bring attention to hypocrisy. And so far, we've done a stunning job preventing SJWs from burying theirs and from burying us.

I'm skeptical if South Park and Rick & Morty would be addressing this viewpoint if it wasn't escalated in the media lately, and we're a huge part of that. People will try to undercut our accomplishments, say that all this stuff would have happened anyways. SJWs certainly seem convinced we're impotent and that this sort of thing is a sign of "something that's always been there". All the evils in the world are against them and have existed since of the dawn of time. Oh, and in spite of our impotence, they manage to complain about our existence constantly. And in spite of existing for all time, quite a few of the things they have problems with are symptoms of their own beliefs. They've constructed a bubble where all they love is good and all they hate is bad.

Make no mistake: we've gotten the FCC to crack down on rogue advertising tactics. We've gotten the general public to notice who is complaining, even if they don't consider them powerful nor particularly threatening. The media is slowly becoming recognized as unreliable. Wikipedia continues to be seen as illegitimate in the eyes of librarians and educators everywhere; Academia will never recognize a publication built on tribalism over good editing. We helped oust one bad reddit CEO, founded an alternative to cuckchan, led The Escapist to revamp their entire website and choice in entertainers... this is leaving out all the charity stuff, which is frankly unimportant to the main goal.

We've done a lot and we brought SJWs into the spotlight. And they're struggling without the ability to just cry harassment as a smokebomb and then drop back into the shadows.

[–]AltairsFarewell 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really think we did anything (in regards to larger culture) We just tapped into a growing sentiment that many in society had already been feeling. I'd like to think of us as early adopters.

[–]hydromorphone_dream 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And now they're seeing that there's a huge group of internet "warriors" that will back them up if they dissent from the narrative, and even support them and fight on their behalf. It was fear that was keeping them silent before.

[–]throwaway7575751 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Kinda like the chicken and the egg. Is GG a symptom of this backlash against identity politics or was this backlash started by GG?

[–]GeltonZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno if I'd put it that way but yeah. I mean most of us were anti-SJW before this all happened. Often for YEARS! It was just that GG brought us together into a collective mob of people who are fed the fuck up.

Now that there IS a large group of people who are fed up, more and more foks realize they aren't alone. Even if they buy into the harassment narrative, if we make them think about how BS the SJWs are then it doesn't matter.

I guess you COULD say we..."started a conversation"? :D

[–]manageditmyself 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

symptom

read "the Misandry Bubble" and you'll see this was predicted 6 years ago

[–]Cross_of_CoronadoSEA LIONING! BAM! 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

With Rick & Morty I'm kinda safe and sure that they won't go SJW. If Dan Harmon goes SJW, ALL is lost.

With South Park however.... eeeeeh... let's look where they're going this season. PC Principal is alive and well.

[–]Azurenightsky 17ポイント18ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'd argue pc principal is meant to be something of a caricature, more so than south park usually pulls. Lol said it best, Cartman aligns himself with greatest evil, he sees the fact that pc principal literally beat him into a hospital with no repercussions, that's true power. To do an act of evil, then be praised for it? That's right up Cartman's alley. Look at the Coon

[–]sinnodrak 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Cartman is definitely going to use the PC police. He's going to out PC them with Kyle being a Jew. This is the Cartman that insisted he identified as a woman to use the girls bathroom.

[–]hydromorphone_dream 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Am I the only one that feels like Jews are perhaps the only minority SJWs aren't quick to defend? I see a lot of antisemitic rhetoric among the SJWs (jews control the media, Zionism, etc), and Muslims certainly trump Jews on the victim scale.

[–]sinnodrak 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jews have a high thetan/privilege level.

[–]iknownuffink 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

They are quick to turn on east asian's as well. The Chinese, the Japanese, probably the Koreans too, are only considered to be PoC when it's convenient for their agenda, and considered to be white when it isn't.

[–]hydromorphone_dream 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is true. Now this is going to sound bad, but it's empirically true; ethnically Jewish people and Asians on average have higher IQs than everybody else, and despite being a very small minority in most of the West, actually make more money than whites in those places. and integrate incredibly well into a liberal society. It could be their culture, ethnic genetics, situation, who knows. But it's the truth, and I think the problem with those ethnicities is that they disprove the basis of the SJW belief system.

[–]Cross_of_CoronadoSEA LIONING! BAM! 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're very likely right, but with the South Park Makers you never know and I better be prepared for everything.

[–]DeeDoubsFounder of Kek's Giving Day 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only winning move with South Park is to roll with the punches and hope that whoever else they are punching doesn't. Anyone who tries to say South Park isn't fair or is intellectually dishonest is going to just get laughed at on the broader stage.

[–]Azurenightsky 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's also true, time will tell.

[–]BuckeyeBentley 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I expect a season long arc leading to the PC frat being destroyed. Like the Scott Tennerman chili incident but much more grandiose.

[–]iamoverrated 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you kidding me? Matt Stone and Trey Parker have been defending offense speech (not just free speech) since day one. The South Park catalog as well as their movies are littered with the ethos that it's either all okay to make fun of or nothing is okay to make fun of.

[–]ufailowell 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk man the way Morty went off it seemed like they were trying to frame him as an asshole for thinking that. Just the way he got really angry and in her face while she was calm.