A stunning victory for Men’s Rights Activists
Give yourselves a pat on the back, fellas. You deserve it!
Never let it be said that Men’s Rights Activists cannot effect meaningful change in the real world through the power of their activism.
At least if your definition of “effecting meaningful change in the real world” is “voting their preferred definition of MRA to the top spot on Urban Dictionary.”
Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, the regulars are celebrating this rare victory as if they’d just won men the right to vote or something. No, really: they literally compare themselves to the suffragettes.
Another commenter warns his comrades that the battle isn’t over yet.
Go forth, young men! For there is more crap for you to upvote on the internet before you secure your victory!
Posted on September 21, 2015, in antifeminism, entitled babies, grandiosity, MRA, reddit, slacktivism and tagged anti-feminism, antifeminism, men's rights, MRA, reddit, urban dictionary. Bookmark the permalink. 45 Comments.
Totally unrelated, but my favorite “today I learned” from this week was that IBM’s Jeopardy-playing computer Watson was once taught the contents of Urban Dictionary, and then was promptly un-taught them when it learned to swear.
Well. Shocking. Just shocking. I’ll be clutching my pearls and gasping for air on the fainting couch. If anyone needs me please bring the smelling salts.
I want to make a joke, but I’m speechless. If an Urban Dictionary definition is a victory to them, well… uh, congrats? I guess?
Urban Dictionary? It’s not exactly the OED, guys, it’s just a website where people go to look up jokey definitions of sexual euphemisms and swears. So, yay for you? *fist bump*
“Hey everyone, did you notice how an organized group of people can game any sort of website based on voluntary voting to push a message?”
“Awesome! I’m so glad we all hang out on reddit together!”
Given that 99% of the top-voted definitions are either “A swear word we just made up,” “A sex act we just made up” or “THERE’S FEMICOMMUNAZIS IN MY SOUP, ALEX JONES AND HITLER WERE RIGHT” anyway… Good work pissing in an ocean of piss, fellas!
As dumb and insignificant as it is, even this “victory” is unlikely to last very long.
The preferred MRA-for-MRAs definition has about 7k votes for and 1k against right now. But the six current runner-up definitions all have somewhere around 15k for and 10k against. And every single one of those runner-up definitions mock MRAs as being idiots.
So basically, they got a big mob of manbabies to dump all their yes votes into one obscure manbaby definition that most urban dictionary people have never bothered to look at, let alone vote on. Or it WAS obscure, rather, before they got it slapped up at the top of the page. A page full of anti-MRA entries with fifteen thousand yes votes apiece.
Nothing could go wrong with this plan.
How can they overcome hate when that’s what their bowel movement is based on?
Also does this mean that they’re going to stop threatening people online?
If this puts an end to their shitty behavior then I say we let them have the win.
After that we can train all of the flying pigs to become part of our air force.
Normally I’m of the opinion that M is the wittiest of us, but Prios narrowly takes the lead here.
Wild guess: No.
Oh goody, they were able to vote! Now the world can take them seriously as suffragists!
Maybe they ought to consult a real dictionary from time to time…
@Buttercup QS
Haha! I totally missed that perfect piece of irony.
Well, I know it looks like they’ve gotten the upper hand, but I’m sure our heroes will figure a way out of the cliffhanger next week.
… Wait. Shit. This wasn’t about Doctor Who at all, was it.
@Falconer
Everything is about Doctor Who, it can just take a while to work out exactly how.
@matchstickuk, now that I think about it, the comparison between the MRAs and the Daleks is a little unfair, and I’m sorry for it.
Sure, they’re both hate-filled, blustering, knock-it-all-down trolls who spend all day shouting slogans, but the Daleks haven’t actually hurt any real people, and the MRAs contribute to very real online harassment.
@Falconer
the Daleks also do some good by (if I recall Genesis of the Daleks correctly) uniting other, disparate forces of the universe into a coalition to oppose them.
“Taken seriously as suffragists”? What… exactly is the type of “suffrage” they’re seeking? I know they occasionally try to convince folks that they are feminism for men, even as they demonize feminism, but I’ve never seen this direct comparison to a group that had a tangible human right (voting) as a goal.
So far, the most I’ve seen them truly try to accomplish is to fight for the “right” to be taken seriously in the absence of any serious activism.
@Kirbywarp: They stand against the tyranny of other people being allowed to have an opinion and they fight for freedom from criticism.
In your last post you disparaged Elam and his visionary strategy of using a teeny-tiny Revolutionary Vanguard to overthrow Bourgeois Gynocentrism. You thought that the whole thing was just sour-grapes posturing to spin the fact that AVFM is hemorrhaging visitors. But who is spinning now but the Feminist Running-Dogs?!!! In the face of this earth-shattering victory, brought about entirely by the advanced Strategy of Our Dear Leader, you can do nothing but spin. For the armies of justice have LIBERATED Urban Dictionary from the occupation of the SJW Hordes!!!!
Ever Onward To Victory!!!
./jk
@ Falconer
There’s an interesting debate going on at gallifreybase about the latest Dr Who episode (well I say interesting, more like a train wreck).
To give you an idea of the level of discussion my favourite quote so far is:
“Well at least the Daleks will be pleased to know that there are some people more concerned about ethnic purity than they are”.
@Alan Robertshaw: Oh my god, is it because of the black guys at the beginning? Is gallifreybase losing its shit over the implication that the Kaleds and the Thals might include other than pure Nordic types?
(That guy who ran after the boy was the bravest person in that whole episode.)
@ Falconer
Wow, you’re psychic!
[There’s also a bit of a meltdown because 12th Century England was portrayed, albeit historically accurately, as not exclusively white]
@EJ, OT, but no worries about not managing to meet up on the demo last week. It was an awesome afternoon and I made friends with a woman who’s helping take supplies to the make shift camps outside Calais including ‘The Jungle’, I was able to help her out with some donations the following week.
As far as the MRAs go, wow what a victory, Urban Dictionary isn’t mocking them quite so much for the time being! Now they just have to win hearts and minds over on Encyclopaedia Dramatica, which may be tricky as those guys tend not to have either.
‘First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they go back to ignoring you.
Then you alienate your few allies by throwing a big mantrum all over the place about how unfair it all is.’
– Galileo
Horray….?
Thank you for posting the link David. Being a petty-minded internet user, I just took five seconds to go to U.D. and cast a few votes regarding that entry.
Are they sore because feminism had its “good” definitions as top results for ages?
I just checked and all the first page are positive definitions with 33.000 to 42.000 upvotes and 4.000 to 7.000 downvotes.
Hey everyone!! We’re all like super suffragettes or something!! Matriarchy and the End of Times!!
@Charles Miller
I loved that story, Watson is totally Skynet waiting to happen…
I hope they back-date male suffrage when the MRAs achieve that victory. I’ve been voting for quite a while now and I don’t want to get into any trouble.
They’re all a bunch of legends-in-their-own-mind; every trite little thing they do is a big deal to them.
@Alan: No, I’m not psychic, but my time capsule is!
Have I mentioned how much I look forward to “Think of these female characters misogynistically and then blame Moffat for it” season? Because guess what just started.
Apparently, Moffat is a bad writer because Missy is just exactly like River.
@ Falconer
Well, they both are women who like shooting things.
I’m currently following a thread where someone is complaining that the BBC is trying to sell black people to us.
Now I know they’re looking for alternative ways of funding beyond the license fee, but I agree that this is a step too far.
@Alan, buying black people certainly hasn’t worked out so well for us in The Colonies.
It’s almost, y’know, like it’s a crime against humanity or somesuch.
@ Falconer
Nah, apparently the real crime against humanity is marginalising white people on TV. Turns out we’re severely under-represented.
It’s not like Moffat is perfect or anything, but the hate has gotten so over the top that I feel compelled to defend him. If he’s so terrible, why still watch it? It can be fun to hate watch things sometimes, but I don’t see the value in spending hours on the internet complaining about a show nobody is making you watch. ASOIAF book purists do this too much too. And the can suck it because GoT just cleaned up at the Emmy’s :)
@Alan, Falconer, WWTH:
Honestly, the way you keep on about Doctor Who, you’d think he fucked a dead pig or something.
@WWTH: Yeah, if it’s not making you happy, stop doing it.
But no, Someone Is Wrong on the Internet. And that Someone is all of us who say, yeah, Doctor Who’s not perfect but we’re enjoying it more and more every series. (Heaven forbid someone confess that Amy Pond added to their lives.)
@EJ: Well, he did just have a new series premiere. Is that the same thing?
weirwood: Nobody hates like a TrooFan.
I, too, voted down that silly self-pandering definition in favor of the second one :).
Also, i can’t resist:
So, slightly off topic, but still relevant to the site as a whole (and because I have no where else to put it at the moment besides the old personal threads):
I have secured permission from David to put up an Unofficial WHTM store via Zazzle!
My thoughts on this were: If I managed to set up an Unofficial store, I could include designs on inside community jokes and the like for people to purchase, and there’d still be an official store where you could purchase Offical WHTM gear.
The Unofficial store would have similar branding to the Official one, but it’d be a little goofier (I was thinking about putting a googly eye on the mammoth. I can’t brand when I’m tired apparently.) and would most likely be called “We (kinda) Hunted The Mammoth: The Unofficial WHTM store”, or just We (kinda) Hunted the Mammoth or WKHTM for short. (Could use some work though.)
However, as I was lying in bed thinking about it instead of sleeping last night, I did hit on a few things that I would like to go over with the rest of you lovely people before I put it into effect:
– Would you purchase anything via the store if an Unofficial store was made?
I would first like to make sure that before I do this, or put any plan of mine into effect, that there’s a market for it.
– How much money should David receive via this store?
Personally, I mark up all my items by 20%, as that’s the standard for another site I work with, and I figure that way, I can at least make a few bucks off of each item.
However, since this stuff will all have designs (created by me) based in this community (that David created and all of you contribute to), I was wondering if you lovely commenters think that David should get at least some of the money, and what percent of that 20% you think should go to him.
– Should I just submit the designs to the Official WHTM store?
David did suggest that I could submit designs to him to put into the “Official” store. Do you think this would be a better idea?
I would be happy to do this for David at no charge, especially since I couldn’t donate to the last funds drive, and if it could make David money, I’d be happy to consider that my contribution.
However, this would mean that I have no control over how the products are formatted, only the designs that get placed on them. David would have all control over the formatting. (And no offense to David, as his store’s items look fantastic, but that does make me a teeny bit nervous. These would be my metaphorical babies, after all.)
– If you would purchase anything from the Zazzle store, what kind of items would you be interested in seeing?
Zazzle has a lot of different items to choose from, so if you could take a look and mention things you’d be interested in purchasing if it had a bit of WHTM design on it.
– Any ideas for designs I could make?
Is there any community in-jokes that you’d like to see be made into a design?
So far, I have:
– Asshole is not a mental illness
(Though, this requires Scented Fucking Hard Chairs’ permission, as they’re the clever little bunny who came up with it. This would also include a NSFW and SFW version, which means one would include “Asshole” and the other would include something that means the same thing but isn’t considered a swear word.)
– Scented FUCKING candles
(This would include a NSFW and SFW version)
– Houses DIRECTLY on the beach
– Something about Katie
(I was thinking of a few designs for this one)
– Shut up Woody
– Hufflepuffs Against Honey Badgers
(I think this one is self-explanatory if you’ve read my posts in any of the recent Honey Badgers threads.)
A Yay or Nay on any of these designs would help!
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Whew, that was a lot of my notes to get through…but I’m nothing if not thorough and dedicated to do this right!
I just don’t know where anyone ever said that men and boys do not have difficulties and women are all spotless angels. For example, my mother was the emotionally, sexually and physically abusive parent. Does that mean all mothers are bad, all women are bad? I can only speak for me and I would never say men and boys do not suffer. That being said, that is not the same as institutionalized patriarchy. As well, patriarchy harms men and boys. In the example above, regarding my family, patriarchy teaches that men should display less emotion and should be able to help themselves (after all, they are top of the food chain according to patriarchy), and therefore due to this pressure, they tend not to seek therapy for horrible childhood abuse. I don’t get why they can’t see patriarchy exists and it does no one any good.
Holy crap, really? I’d be honoured! ^_^
Hooray! Thanks, SFHC! °˖ ✧◝(○ ヮ ○)◜✧˖ °
I’ll do my best to make you proud!
No one said it. But they think we did, and to them, that’s good enough. In their headspaces, feminists are playing favorites with women, and that women are all good and moral, and that’s why we support them.
They think that by focusing on one particular group, we care about them the most, when in reality, we just want to give help to those we can and those we know who need it.
To the point where they’re legitimately baffled when a feminist doesn’t immediately fully support everything a (usually traditionalist/MRA-supporting) woman does, considering it to be an example of a feminist failing to live up to her principles. It’s kind of hilarious.