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The day /r/buttcoin almost died. (self.Buttcoin)

Delusionalbull が 投稿

I'm making this post as per /u/cojoco request.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3lnrmo/dont_post_personal_information_in_this_subreddit/cv8fs3e

About a year ago this sub had a mod run monthly nomination thread for the biggest captains of the industry. One user nominated pirateat40.

https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2014/lr23090.htm

Pretty low profile guy huh.

This was the second such nomination thread. Shortly after Cojoco banned said user for supposedly doxing another member of reddit. Pretty odd since pirateat40 doesn't and has never posted on reddit as far as anyone knows. The user messaged the mods confused as to why he was banned. Cojoco decided it would be best to just start name calling admitting that he doesn't take his modding this sub seriously and basically acts like a child.

http://imgur.com/NfjLe9W

Does it appear to you that the user was being too sassy and out of control before Cojoco banned him.

His recent claims was that the user was banned for linking a reddit user (he isn't) with an offsite forum. The other mods agreed that Cojoco made a wildly stupid call and stuck up for the banned user. Cojoco didn't like that his authority was called in to question and began take away all the other mods powers. There was talk in the buttcoin IRC of all the mods quitting but they decided it was best not to give /r/bitcoin something to laugh about. One of the mods did quit at this time after hours and hours of bullshit.

Do you know how Cojoco got his top mod spot of this sub? He is a known subsquatter. He waits until a sub has gone quiet for awhile and then asks the admins to give him control of the sub. Did you know Cojoco also mods over 150 subs? Did you know he resigned from /r/undelete because he was restoring anti-jewish posts that had since been deleted and that he was doing it under the guise of "free speech" Killhamster and Borderpatrol are the rightful head mods of this sub but as I mentioned they had the entire sub stolen right from under their nose.

Cojoco is as shady and tyrannical as Theymos. The only difference is that Theymos actually gives a shit about his sub. /r/buttcoin is just another merit badge to sew onto his mod sash.

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[–]spookthesunset 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a lot of text and I'm just an ideas guy. Does this mean I should buy more bitcoin?

[–]RagdollPhysEd 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was buttcoin ever "quiet" though?

[–]edward_snowedin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

what does this have to do with butts

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[–]muddgirl 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't give a shit about this sub, either. Do I qualify to be a mod?

I mean, seriously. What precious resource is lost if this sub degrades?

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Was the users ban justified for posting about pirateat40?

[–]edward_snowedin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

does 1btc = 1btc? checkmate statist

[–]muddgirl 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do I agree with reddit's rules about doxxing? No, I think they go too far and protect scam artists and serial abusers. Was a user ban in line with reddit moderation policies? I thought so at the time, and nothing here is new or disproves that.

[–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (54子コメント)

For completeness, this was posted by the banned user,

https://www.reddit.com/r/Oppression/comments/2esyfx/

That lovely screed was cross-posted to buttcoin by a now-shadowbanned user:

https://np.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2esyzj/ever_see_a_post_from_cojoco_in_here_me_neither/

The banned user also asked a teenager in her AMA about her potential rape at a bitcoin conference.

Not sure why you say: "Almost died".

I banned one user for several reasons, who then proceeded to throw a tantie, which caused another mod such emotional distress that they demodded themselves.

I'm not sure why you regard that as potentially fatal.

[–]Poop_is_Food 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't really understand this situation, but I wonder why do you want to mod here if you're not very interested in the content?

[–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am actually interested in the content, although I don't have an in-depth knowledge of it as do many posters here.

Also there's a lot of necessary mod work in the sub, which I quite enjoy.

Also there are a lot of good-natured trolls here, which I also quite enjoy.

Mostly, though, it's for threads like these, which are ambrosia for attention whores such as myself.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you mod 150+ subs because you are an attention whore?

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You obviously don't understand how reddit works.

Most of those subs are inactive.

[–]nobodybelievesyou 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

tbf, i demodded myself after you removed everyone's mod privs in a panic when they asked you to leave because you were banning someone for "doxxing" the most notorious scammer in bitcoin history, which you were unaware of because you are a subreddit squatter and have no idea about anything having to do with bitcoin.

You goof.

[–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

you removed everyone's mod privs in a panic

I removed your banning permissions because I didn't want you to add haviq again.

I don't know where you got an impression of "panic" from.

[–]nobodybelievesyou 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well now that we've established that you actually removed permissions from the entire mod team in the other comment, I can post the screenshots of the modmail insurrection if you want.

It would probably be easier to just stop lying about things, but idk, whatever.

[–]cojoco -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sure, go for it.

Do you have the IRC logs?

I've never seen those.

[–]nobodybelievesyou 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

<everyone> cojoco is a retarded squatter and should leave

I'm paraphrasing but I think it is pretty close

[–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

How many people are actively commenting here, and on your side?

Four?

Is that all you could rustle up?

[–]nobodybelievesyou 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Huh? I really don't care any more, man. You are objectively terrible and should leave, but not to the extent that I'm going to expend effort drumming up troops or whatever dumb thing you are implying.

Telling you that you should fuck off and stop lying about things is good enough for me.

Goddamn you are a weirdo.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

From the other mods of this sub in the buttcoin IRC chan is where.

[–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

But I wasn't even there.

They're drama hounds, for sure.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Better a drama hound than a sub hound.

[–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For the life of me, I don't know why.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (11子コメント)

I saw the supposed "rape thread" and the banned user never participated in that thread.As I recall he linked to a bitcoin thread where the girl was asking if she would be safe going to a bitcoin conference with so many guys. The banned user made a sensationalized headline in this sub about if its possible to be raped by going to a bitcoin conference. You know you seem to be twisting a lot of things that went on around here.

Teenage girl wanders into /r/bitcoin to inquire if it's possible to attend a bitcoin conference without being raped.

[–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

The banned user made a sensationalized headline in this sub about if its possible to be raped by going to a bitcoin conference.

Which was cross-posted by totes_meta_bot into the AMA, where the girl would doubtless have seen it.

I'm not sure why asking a teenager about her rape is more forgivable if you do it behind her back.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

No one asked a teenager about anything. What are you even talking about? This is similar to the whole deleted reddit user incident that was brought up for the guys original banning. You kept babbling on about some deleted reddit user which was supposedly part of the reason he was banned and as usual you just dance around the question.

[–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm not going to cross-post links to that one, you'll just have to take it on trust.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm looking at the thread now and nowhere in there do i see that banned user asking that girl anything or even posting in that thread. So your trust doesn't mean shit. Should I post the /r/bitcoin thread so we can see you are full of it or you going to go ahead and admit the banned user did nothing other than post a link with a somewhat tasteless title in this sub.

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

If you post anything about that thread here, I'll remove it.

People can make up their own minds about the rights and wrongs of the situation, I don't really care.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

So did he post in the thread like you said he did or did he not? Or did you totally just fabricate the story about him asking a teenage girl or anyone in that thread about rape? It's either a yes or no question. Yes he posted in that thread or no he did not post in that thread.

[–]b_coin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

can yous guys send a PM to someone with the link to said thread

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Anyone reading the thread could have pieced together answers to those questions, but I'll summarize our discussion so far.

  • He posted a message in /r/buttcoin wondering if a teenaged girl was concerned about being raped at a bitcoin conference
  • Totes_meta_bot reposted the link in the bitcoin AMA, where the teenager would have seen it.

Personally, I think that posting questions about reddit teenagers being raped is a shitty thing to do whether they see it or not, but she would definitely have seen it.

You must be somewhat butt-hurt to have such a clear recollection, and record, of events that happened over a year ago, yet I still believe my original actions were justified.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe he should have posted something antisemitic instead? Would that have been up to your censorship standards. Maybe the problem is just that you are overwhelmed in modding 150+ subs and cant even keep track of whats going on, that or you must be a pathological liar as evidenced from all the backtracking you keep doing throughout this entire thread.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

As I recall that mod demodded himself because you were stripping all of the other mods power. And it would have been fatal as the entire mod team was ready to leave. You know the ones that actually produce content and participate in the sub. Seems from the screen shots the only one acting like a child was you.

[–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (14子コメント)

As I recall that mod demodded himself because you were stripping all of the other mods power.

That's not my recollection.

I removed banning/unbanning privileges from a single mod.

And it would have been fatal as the entire mod team was ready to leave.

What prevented them?

You know the ones that actually produce content and participate in the sub.

Sure, and I have never prevented them.

Seems from the screen shots the only one acting like a child was you.

It was certainly an enjoyable morning.

[–]nobodybelievesyou 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Your recollection is wrong. That is literally what happened.

http://i.imgur.com/zYKZvzn.jpg

[–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh, okay ... so I removed access permissions from everyone, and left the other permissions intact.

[–]nobodybelievesyou 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Phew, they could still post on the wiki!

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow the useless ones. But hey, nice job trying to keep your story straight.

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

access permissions are used only for banning, and banning is pretty rare in buttcoin.

I removed them for only a few hours IIRC, but as you've discovered, my memory of mod actions from more than a year ago is not perfect.

[–]GreatGuy_GG 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

This is the first time I see someone being butthurt about moderation here. You might remember my admiration for the mod team from the time this 'journalist' from CCN wrote about r/buttcoin including my comment.

If you're confident on your modding decisions and would like to prevent future butthurt, you could use something like public modlogs for transparency.

[–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

I run /u/nucensorship which provides transparency to a number of subreddits, but I don't want to do that here, as it is one of the doxiest subs I mod.

Several of my subreddits, including /r/Snowden and /r/FreeSpeech, have public mod logs.

I'm not confident enough in my ability to remove dox from public modlogs to run one here.

[–]GreatGuy_GG 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I get what you mean but public mod logs through a sub you have control over isn't the ideal solution. It's even part of OP's butthurt.

[–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sure, I agree.

But leaving somebody else responsible for removing dox which appears in this sub is not the ideal solution either.

There are several undelete mirrors, but no uncensorship mirrors.

It's even part of OP's butthurt.

Sorry, I think I missed that part?

[–]GreatGuy_GG 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sorry, I think I missed that part?

The part about you and /r/undelete

I agree that doxing is a strong counter argument though. I wouldn't be surprised to hear it was a common occurrence in /r/bitcoin but to me it's weird to hear it happens often in one of the most anti-bitcoin subbredit.

[–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I think that statement is an outright lie and I seriously doubt there is any significant amount of doxing at all in this sub.

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more than in the other subs I moderate.

Any amount of dox is significant.

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The part about you and /r/undelete

Oh, yeah, they're not butt-hurt about transparency, they're butt-hurt that I restored a non-rule-breaking comment to the sub.

I did resign in protest at that, but then /u/EMR1028 got kicked by /u/IAmAnAnonymousCoward and I was eventually added back.

[–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's weird to hear it happens often in one of the most anti-bitcoin subbredit.

Both bitcoin and buttcoin are full of trolls, it's one of the attractions of this sub.

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    [–]cojoco -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hi Ed :D !

    [–]Delusionalbull[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Both of those links occured after the events of this post. What is this supposed to prove?

    [–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    That's not true.

    [–]Delusionalbull[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

    From your first link I see the quote.

    "You're an ass, trying to get me shadowbanned. Permanent."

    So it obviously happened after the permanent ban.

    [–]cojoco -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    No, that was a modmail conversation that appeared to be designed to get me to discuss dox.

    How else would I get shadowbanned from this ludicrous situation?

    [–]Delusionalbull[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yet here you are making a thread about doxxing and then making it a sticky. The user was asking for an explanation on why talking about a WELL KNOWN person who isnt even a a member of reddit was worthy of a doxx ban and you danced around the question and pretend there is some conspiracy to get you shadowbanned.

    [–]cojoco -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Life is shitty sometimes, isn't it ?

    [–]Prom3th3an 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No, that was a modmail conversation that appeared to be designed to get me to discuss dox.

    Which is a discussion that needs to happen. If posting already-public information about a public figure is "doxxing", then the definition needs to be clear.

    [–]fucknozzle 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Phew! I was starting to really worry that /r/buttcoin didn't have the same tedious bickering and whining about mods as /r/bitcoin has.

    [–]cojoco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I like tedious bickering and whining, it's my reddit bread-and-butter.