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[–]Kekebean 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

How would we know for a fact if they are friendly or not?

[–]themadhat1 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

when you meet one you will know. i think many of us have and didnt realize it right away or at all. some of the other comments hit it bye saying something like we arent dead yet. i believe the alien abduction cases you hear about are being perpetrated bye individuals using aliens as a cover, to hide the real intentions of theyre acts. so they cast upon you fear as to keep you away.

[–]Kekebean -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Exactly, we haven't officially met one. Period.

[–]themadhat1 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

because we arent dead? end of story? that simple?

[–]Kekebean 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. "When you meet one you will know".

[–]themadhat1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

gotcha. i do believe they are here now.

[–]KodaJames[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

They have not enslaved us yet, that's how we no.

[–]johnnywalkah 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Either you're still young or like some of us you've figured your way out, but I think modern life in the western world is pretty much slavery with the illusion of freedom. (or worse you believe in that illusion).

Think of the matrix as a metaphor.

[–]xenopsych 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree. I think the window of opportunity has closed for a quick and clean invasion. Any invasion in the nuclear age will just create lots of fallout, mostly from nuclear IED/EFP. Which also brings up the fact that species at our level aren't allowed to run around with weapons. We need to evolve to be on the same level as the species that visit us, and we can't expect million year more advanced tech until we do evolve.

[–]KodaJames[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need to evolve to be on the same level as the species that visit us, and we can't expect million year more advanced tech until we do evolve.

EXACTLY!

[–]sfbreh 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Boyd Bushman, get the fuck out of here.

[–]KodaJames[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

What, do you think he was full of shit?

[–]sfbreh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[–]Tamtel_42 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do we know that they have not already enslaved U.S. and we are just not advanced enough to see it!

[–]KodaJames[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aliens didn't enslave the U.S. The U.S. Government enslaved the U.S. People. Edward Snowden, MK Ultra, The Entertainment Industry, The Music Industry. An so much more.

[–]velezaraptor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO we would probably find out "Friendly" isn't the best description, we should expand on this thought. In my eyes, emotions evolve, here is a quick description I came up with. "Good Aliens": Altruistically Curious and "Bad Aliens": Analytically Predisposed to an Agenda regardless of how benevolent the intentions.

What we think of Angry and Happy I'd assume evolves in to something we don't relate to, motives become more and more part of the whole agenda, while I can also assume every race has their exceptions to the rule.

[–]no1113 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some are. Some aren't. Some are indifferent.

Don't fall into thinking only one type of way. There are all types and kinds out there.

Just like humans. How silly would it be to ask "Are humans friendly?"

Some are. Some aren't. Some are indifferent.

It takes all types, bro.

[–]obsidian_butterfly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd imagine that, just like people, they have their own individual personalities.

[–]mandanasty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you can't really generalize by just saying aliens because there are dozens of races of aliens with all different agendas, and they dont all get along with each other. Its kinda like saying are people friendly? Depends on the person.

[–]SomeTallGy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

My instincts and common sense suggest to me that they are friendly within our means of understanding. I think the more important question is are we capable of being friendly to them?

[–]KodaJames[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, Hell No! We're not. Humans discriminate against other humans. It's so fucking SAD! Oh you're Mexican, stay over there. Oh you're black, use that bathroom. WHAT THE FUCK? Not trying to get racist here or anything, but seeing how white people basically run the world, it's so sad to see what they do with their power. It's shows the mindset of a fucking toddler... it's pathetic. An racism is still going on strong today, people are just quieter about it. If we can't except others because they look different then us, then how the Hell are we going to deal with Aliens? This world is fucking sad and immature.

Think about it. An Advanced civilization aka Aliens find Earth. They watch humans for hundreds or maybe even thousands of years, to THEM we look like cavemen based off of our mindset. Humans might hurt the Aliens and study on them even if they are friendly. So why the fuck would they come down here. BTW I'm also implying that Aliens do not discriminate against their own kind over simpleminded shit.

Humans: You look different Has temper tantrum

Aliens: You look different, cool. Lets learn from each other :D

To sum this up, they think we're stupid as fuck. Stupid, very violent and malicious. We are kids in a sandbox, they are the adults.

[–]outroversion -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's no such thing as aliens just people from other planets. Some of them are just like us and some of them are dicks.

[–]KodaJames[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If they are from other planets, we refer to them as aliens.

[–]zeuph 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes but what he/she's saying are that they have just of a vast culture and probably similar cultural problems like we do. Some aliens probably want to enslave us, some probably don't want to do that. Just like we have "bad" humans, they probably stumble upon "bad" beings similar to themselves.

The enslavement part are a whole different subject, some say the best invasion is a infiltration. If they wanted to kill, become or manipulate any human, they probably could. Now saying that, we kind of already seem enslaved, don't we? I'm absolutely not implying Barack is a reptilian. But imagine you being a leader of a grand empire and you could know anything, manipulate anyone of another empire, wouldn't you? Even if it seems immoral, I wouldn't be surprised it's a highly effective tactic.

[–]hashmon -5ポイント-4ポイント  (85子コメント)

There seems to,be friendly and unfriendly ones. The beings I've encountered during my DMT trips are incredibly friendly.

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity 2ポイント3ポイント  (84子コメント)

Hallucinations...

[–]hashmon -3ポイント-2ポイント  (83子コメント)

No, "hallucinations" imp,it's that the experience isn't real, but it's not only real, but deeply meaningful beyond what can be put into words. I've been lucky to do it many dozens if times.

Here's a documentary about DMT, if you're at all interested: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtT6Xkk-kzk

[–]zeuph 0ポイント1ポイント  (35子コメント)

The problem with this is not about people being misinformed what the DMT does. It's that DMT induces hallucinations weather you like it or not. You cannot say otherwise.

There was a story where I live about a man on LSD believing his friend was satan and he jumped out of a window, broke his legs and then got run over by a train. I know that "DMT and LSD are not the same thing" but both induce the human brain in hallucinations. Now I ask you, do you believe the man's friend really was satan?

Like with any DMT user, I don't believe you to take my words and go on with your life, proclaiming your many experiences as fabricated. However, I do believe I pushed you into a direction where you could grasp reality and think that maybe these experiences are not what they seem because without doubt you took drugs that creates a fabricated reality.

With that said, I don't know what DMT induces other than hallucinations. Because I have become rather spiritual over the last few months I cannot believe nor disbelieve what you're saying until I've had a experience myself. I have thought about doing it and probably will do it in the future. Until then, I'm sorry but I think I talk for everyone when I say that I cannot just believe you because you took a drug. I don't believe there's "that one way" to make contact with spirit beings.

[–]hashmon -2ポイント-1ポイント  (34子コメント)

There are a lot of ways to make contact with other intelligent beings. This is certainly one. I've done it myself countless dozens of times. If interested, you too could do it and have that experience, but it sounds like you're not interested. You can also read thousands of reports about it online- again, if you're interested.

You're brainwashed by the Drug War propaganda to believe "hallucinations" aren't real. If you start having these experiences, you find out exactly the opposite is true, at least in the context of the tryptamine psychedelics.

Keep an open mind and try it sometime. Or don't; it's your life, and if you want to stay ignorant, that's your choice. Peace.

[–]squidder3 2ポイント3ポイント  (30子コメント)

No, you're the one who is brainwashed. I've done dmt/salvia/acid countless times, and I've seen many crazy things, including other beings, but guess what, it's just a hallucination. It may feel real, but it isn't. You can't say the experiences with beings are real, unless you say every experience is real. One time I took dmt and was literally a part of the road and had people driving on me. Another time I was a human domino waiting my turn to tip over. I've been chased by stampedes, and even trees! Now, was all of that real? Of course not. I was just out of my mind because I took dmt. Believe what you want, but you're dead wrong.

[–]hashmon -2ポイント-1ポイント  (29子コメント)

Oh, well, obstinate asshole. Keep drinking that coffee and alcohol. Chug chug. Ego ego.

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]hashmon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should take the time to watch this documentary on ayahuasca, btw. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0XLVUq3WI

[–]hashmon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lots of coffee makes you really egotistical and closed-minded.

Well, whatever you're doing, stop. A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose, and you're on a fucking aliens subreddit.

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really, because the only egotistical one I'm seeing here is you.

I wonder what's causing that doctor?

[–]squidder3 0ポイント1ポイント  (24子コメント)

Have fun living in fantasy land.

[–]hashmon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you know you're on alp aliens subreddit.

"BUT LIFE IS MEANINGLESS AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE LYING BECAUSE I JUST DO."

All it takes is ten minutes to find out how wrong you are, asshole. I've dedicated years of my life to it.

[–]hashmon 1ポイント2ポイント  (22子コメント)

You should take the time to watch this documentary I ayahuasca, btw: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0XLVUq3WI

[–]squidder3 0ポイント1ポイント  (21子コメント)

I don't think you understand. I have experienced everything you are talking about myself. As I said, I have done dmt. The difference between us is that I know it's just hallucinations, and you think it's real.

[–]zeuph 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The thing is right, I am very open minded but I cannot believe something without my own kind of proof or something that follows proof like laws does (prove something several times). I don't disbelieve, lets put it like that. I'm sure that this is something we've not been done proper experiments about. However, our mind can do very strong things and I believe that many people don't really consider this. So far there's been a lot of accounts of people proclaiming that their experiences are real. This is all first hand account. Maybe they're all real, maybe they're not. Maybe one in ten person are having real experiences. Right now I cannot believe nor disbelieve this.

I will absolutely try this and I absolutely agree with you that the war on drugs are not on drugs, rather what would be unraveled if we open up to drugs. I am very open to something that could form my life to something different or even open up contact and if someone asked me to do it tomorrow, I would. I just haven't gotten to that point yet.

However, until I get that experience and can join that club, I have to still hold on to my theory that it could be hallucinations. I have seen many of the documentaries etc. I am just one of those pesky people who cannot fully believe something without their own experience. Haha Sorry if I came off as something different before.

[–]squidder3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

See my reply to him. I've done dmt multiple times, and you are absolutely correct about it just being hallucinations.

[–]hashmon -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, cool. -:) It's not something I was exactly inclined to believe until I had my own experiences either, but I was tantalized enough by all the stories to really give it a shot. When I casually tried it in college, I didn't really do it right, and I didn't get anywhere near breaking through, but when I did it in my late twenties, I really smoked it properly, and I burst right through that vortex (or whatever) that people talk about, and it was by a very long shot the most intense thing I've ever experienced. I was enamored with the phenomenon, so I smoked DMT almost every night for many months, having all sorts of bizarre transdimensional experiences. It's rich with meaning and seriousness and higher intelligence.

There have actually been two studies in DMT/ayahuasca, and both of them showed the majority of participants reporting "transdimensional" encounters. One was by Rick Strassman on DMT, the other by Benny Shanon, an Israeli professor, on ayahuasca. Shanon's study was large-scale, and it showed about 3/4 of people who took ayahuasca reported encountering entities and believing or reporting they were in some other dimension. If you listen to accounts of ayahuasca, this is the norm, not the exception. But, yeah, it would be great to have a lot more formal studies.

The basic question of- what the fuck is going on here?- has been explored by some writers. One is Jeremy Narby, who wrote an amazing book called "The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge." He's an anthropologist who spent a couple years living with ayahuasca-using people in the Amazon jungle, took ayahuasca himself and had one of these realistic experiences, them spent a year researching shamanism and found some really interesting information, such as that shamans essentially discovered DNA long before western scientists ever did. He also saw images like DNA, twin twisting serpents, ubiquitously in shamanic art and oral tradition. Pretty fascinating to look at closely.

They made lots of other discoveries before scientists as well. He came to theorize that DMT somehow acts as a key to let us see into this other dimension, which probably exists literally at the atomic or sub-atomic level. Maybe these "entities" have something to do with DNA; maybe they are DNA, or are embedded in DNA.

"The Cosmic Serpent" is really worth reading (I have a PDF of it) if you're intested generally in alien intelligence, as is Graham Hancock's book "Supernatural," which follows up othe same themes. I understand that no one can be or probably should be convinced or the existence of other dimensions and non-human intelligences being somehow embedded in a part of our minds that we don't usually use- until you have the experience yourself. However, if you really listen closely to what a range of people who both have these experiences and formally study the phenomenon say, it's at least very compelling.

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity -1ポイント0ポイント  (46子コメント)

I knew you were going to link to that crappy documentary.

Ya, sorry it's still hallucinations, no matter what that badly made "documentary" says.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine#Pharmacodynamics

[–]hashmon 1ポイント2ポイント  (45子コメント)

No, dude, I've actually had the experience many times so I know it's very, very real. It's the most profound thing you've ever encountered, and I hope you get to try it sometime. Try any psychedelic, really. Peace. /r/dmt

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity 0ポイント1ポイント  (44子コメント)

Ya, way ahead of you, I've tried them.

I've noticed that the rational people handled them well, because they knew they were hallucinations.

Those less informed start to attribute pseudo-spiritual, new-age, woo woo to them. As if they're some mystical gateway to another dimension.

Sorry, it's just a chemical that binds with your brain, and causes hallucinations specific to that chemical.

Anything else is just pure nonsense, and an example of "if you open up your mind too much, your brain will fall out".

[–]hashmon 0ポイント1ポイント  (43子コメント)

No, you don't know. Ignorance is pretending to know something that you don't know. Countless thousands of people encounter intelligent entities and non-human higher intelligences on DMT and ayahuasca. If you're interested, you can read or listen to our stories. We have no reason to lie, I'm certainly not a liar, and, honestly, fuck you for suggesting that I am. So many pretentious, egotistical people in the world. No wonder you haven't had a DMT breakthrough. If you stop drinking coffee and alcohol or whatever you're doing and you take some time to meditate, you too can have these experiences, and they're life-changing beyond belief. Peace out, man, you decide if you're open-minded or closed-minded.

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity 0ポイント1ポイント  (42子コメント)

"Ignorance is pretending to know something that you don't know."

Ironic.

Besides that point. I didn't suggest you were lying, I pointed out you were hallucinating.

You said the answer right there DMT and Ayahuasca(also DMT) cause these sorts of hallucinations.

Salvia Divinorum is another, a lot of people report talking to large plants that they feel is important, or God-like, and usually female.

These drugs effect certain parts of the brain, that cause certain responses to the stimuli from the drugs. Including the hallucination of intelligent beings.

Ever wonder why the intelligent beings go away when the drug wears off physiologically? hint, they were in your drugged up imagination

Also I love your use of "open-minded" as a sort of club to beat people into thinking the same way you do with no evidence.

If you'd take some time to actually learn something about these drugs, they wouldn't be such a total mystery to you.

Maybe I should go meditate more though, until my brain atrophies from lack of stimulation, and all of your points start to make sense.

[–]hashmon 0ポイント1ポイント  (41子コメント)

No dude, I've encountered alien intelligence in DMT and ayahuasca, just like thousands of people have. It's not a meaningless hallucination, as you ignorantly assume, despite thousands of people who are actually experienced in these things saying it's the exact opposite of a meaningless hallucination. I hope you get to have the experience someday yourself; everyone deserves to. I've been lucky to do it close to 100 times, so I'm very, very familiar with it. I've also read most of what's out there on the subject. I strongly recommend reading "The Cosmic Serpent" by Jeremy Narby or "Supernatural" by Graham Hancock.

I'm not a liar, and neither is everyone else who talks about these experiences- there have been two formal studies showing the majority of people reporting having transdimensional experiences on these substances. If you're not lazy, you can learn about the subject. No, it's not a meaningless hallucination, as you suggest; it's exactly the opposite. We all have no reason to lie, and, honestly, fuck you for suggesting that I'm a liar. These experiences are significant, meaningful and real, far beyond what can be put into words. If you're interested, you can start to read about the subject and ultimately try to have a breakthrough yourself.

I'd suggest you stop drinking lots of coffee or alcohol or whatever it is that's closing your mind and making you so egotistical. Peace out.

[–]MinisTreeofStupidity 0ポイント1ポイント  (40子コメント)

Hallucinations are an experience, and experiences can hold personal meaning.

Still doesn't mean that what you saw wasn't a product of the drugs you ingested.

Considering you admit to ingesting drugs right before seeing these entities, I don't really see what the mystery is here.

Also calling me lazy, while you know nothing about drugs, other than you took them, and you saw things. Hilarious. Then calling me egotistical, talk about the pot calling the kettle huh?