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Red Pill ExampleHypergamy in medical school (self.TheRedPill)

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3689109

I was reading this research paper from 1987 about sex differences in sexuality among medical students and it's basically once again confirmation for everything that TRP preaches.

'Townsend (1989) surveyed medical students regarding their perception of how the availability of marriage partners changed as their educational careers advanced. Eighty-five percent of the women indicated that "As my status increases, my pool of acceptable partners decreases" (p. 246). In contrast, 90% of men felt that "As my status increases, my pool of acceptable partners increases" (p. 246). [7]'

Modern feminist narration tells that women don't need man to provide for them because they have their own careers, but it's actually the opposite. More woman makes money, more she will demand for his spouses career. Career women are the most hypergamous women of them all.

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[–]1whatsazipper 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

Career women are the most hypergamous women of them all.

No, they're all hypergamous, but career women have the fewest options to satisfy their hypergamy, especially as their education and career derived status increases.

It's a good time to be a successful man. Your competition is often taken out for you.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's a good time to be a successful man. Your competition is often taken out for you.

The problem is that successful women have additional demands without providing additional benefit. And in many cases, the personality traits that make a woman successful also make her more masculine, and thereby less attractive. For most hetero relationships, sexual polarity is a key component of attraction.

If we're talking about cost-benefit ratios, successful women just don't measure up to dumb, unambitious women. How's that for idiosyncracy?

[–]1whatsazipper 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is that successful women have additional demands without providing additional benefit.

Which is always good for a laugh. You can call their bluff. The jig is up when you're frequenting social circles of educated young professionals, and the sex ratio is ridiculously distorted to the benefit of the men.

Moreover, as men, so long as we ignore the shame, there's nothing holding us back from also dating women below that level of education or career attainment. I do it all the time.

There's nothing better than a cute girl going out of her way to get my attention and please me. It's a whole lot more refreshing than a career-girl digging around for information about my education, career, vacations, etc.

[–]fundude1 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I was in med school, this was very common.

Women literally became far more hypergamous after they went through medical school.

Also, they were often looking to marry another doctor and drop out of the profession.

Why marry another physician woman who is in debt and drops out?

All you get is a woman in her 30s who has a bunch of debt and "big ego due to being a physician".

The younger , attractive woman is better without an education.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women have this odd idea that higher and higher education means they should have access only to higher and higher value women. They really do not understand that education really means nothing unless you actually did something with it, and even then... Looks are still number 1.

[–]fundude1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many of these women stop working as well if they can snag a richer dude.

[–]Five_Decades 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

How many of these women actually end up in a happy relationship? From what I've seen many either end up bitter or they get desperate and settle for a bad relationship.

[–]Kolbath 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Strong point. I don't recall any really successful female business owners in good marriages off the top of my head.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I can tell they limit their pool of men, and they are absolutely awful at time management. Most of the female doctors who worked full time in a hospital were divorced and married to their job.

[–]TheReformist94 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

good. let em rot in their shit relationships. actions have consequences. deal with you hypergamy, and accept that the consequence for the action of choosing a high status career as a medic has the consequence of pricing yourself of the market due to your hypergamy

[–]cheeky_throwaway101 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Woah, calm down there sailor. I see someone is firmly in the anger stage.

[–]CrackityDiggity 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

No wonder successful career women are so often bitter cunts. Not only do they ONLY want top-tier men, those same men are choosing hot, young waitresses instead.

[–]Five_Decades 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

So many are unwilling to admit they don't bring nearly enough to the table to justify why a man they are interested in would want them back.

[–]CrackityDiggity 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only that, they think men value what they DO bring to the table--a successful career and a masculine attitude, instead of what they DON'T: youth, beauty and a pleasant feminine disposition.

[–]Kolbath 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone said this in another thread, I wish I could recall who:

"A woman who brings only sex to the relationship gets only sex in return. If she wants more, she needs to bring more."

[–]Raiden2 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also happens with female lawyers. A friend of my SIL got married while in law school to a great guy (beta) who she'd been dating for a few years, he helped support the two of him while they she was in school. As soon as she graduated she divorced him and moved to DC with her cats to be a yougogrrrl activist lawyer. No way she could be married to a car salesman with her law degree!

The happy ending is that she hasn't found anyone in two years and will probably die alone. No one told her how useless she would be on the market at 32, and anyone who is good enough for her standards (judge, senator, president) wouldn't look at her twice at her age.

[–]azpx00 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was 20 (32 now), I dated a lawyer who was 28 and was an assistant city-attorney. She liked the idea of having a boytoy and I actually enjoyed working part-time as her personal assistant/houseboy while going to school.

For the most part, the relationship was great until her friends started giving her shit for dating someone "who hadn't even finished college". They thought it was awesome she slept with a younger guy, but a relationship with someone who hadn't really gone anywhere in life yet was apparently a no-no. She broke off the relationship after a few months of harassment from her friends.

We've kept in touch over the years. She married some disabled, paper-pushing cop with a bad attitude a few years ago and is overall pretty unhappy with the relationship, particularly because she's now too old to have kids.

[–]epixs 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is very true. When I worked in the ER, most of the female ER physicians were either cat ladies, bitter single bitches, married to a badass specialty doc/surgeon, or a small percentage that were actually just normal.

Most of the female doc's stated they were depressed and actually wished they hadn't gone into the profession...hmmm I wonder why lol

[–]Nantafiria 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best thing about having two friends studying to become doctors is getting to hear stories of the way their female fellow studies bitch about things. Especially funny is hearing them talk about some girls being all frustrated because 'all the guys keep going for the nurses wtf.' There's so much projection in there, I'm not even sure where I'd begin were some chick to air such a concern to me.

[–]ransay3277 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dated a doctor once. NEVER AGAIN! Not only did she go around reminding folks everywhere that she was a doctor: but outside of medicine she had no common sense and was as dumb as a stump.

It's like a friend of mine who said no thanks to being introduced to an attorney. "Who wants to date a woman who argues for a living?"

[–]-Animus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your friend's quote is gold!

[–]moneyandsexislife 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Beautiful. Women can't win no matter what they do.

[–]ImHereAtLast 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

False. Women can win by being receptive to feedback from the TRP and MGTOW communities, and adjusting their behavior accordingly. Which would most likely require the voluntary relinquishing of a number of female-specific privileges they've acquired over the years.

And we all know how well that's going to work out... The past three decades have produced damning evidence that suggests that women would literally rather die alone and miserable than compromise their artificially-inflated standards.

They don't realize it (most, not all), but they're doing it to themselves; the obsession with status and the entitlement to be associated with the coveted, high-status men of our culture... Their refusal to abandon the pipe-dream that they've been conditioned to believe is attainable for all women is what's destroying their ability to have life-long happiness and satisfaction.

[–]Niko_Choski 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is something that's very obvious in the workplace. In the hospital that I'm at. Female doctors are either married to a doctor or someone who makes more than a doctor. When I point out to them that they have all married money and status, I'm the superficial asshole, for sleeping around.

The worst thing is that female doctors are generally unattractive and bitchy therefore, if you are a doctor and I'm one, why would you take the time of day to even consider sleeping with one?

Younger, fitter, attractive women exist in all areas of life, some with much less attitude that don't think that a bachelor in medicine and surgery has suddenly pushed their smv up.

[–]Futdashukup 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothin' dries them walls up quicker than a poor,dumb, broke-ass nigga.

[–]ImHereAtLast 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Eighty-five percent of the women indicated that "As my status increases, my pool of acceptable partners decreases" (p. 246). In contrast, 90% of men felt that "As my status increases, my pool of acceptable partners increases" (p. 246).

I love this. This is an excellent sound-byte explanation for why women will not get what they've been promised by the feminist gestapo by chasing careers and male status for themselves.

Would it be sexist to suggest that women who are not willing to compromise on their hypergamous instincts would be happier by working to make themselves more attractive and sexually appealing in the ways that men value, as opposed to trying to feed their egos by falling into the feminist framework of how a woman's life should be structured?

There's an ethics professor at my Alma Mater who makes a fair amount more than her husband (~100k vs. 40k) who seems to be very happy with her relationship and her family. She seems like the kind of woman who voluntarily decided to disregard her hypergamous prerogative to marry up, and appears genuinely happy as a result.

So I guess what I'm ultimately asking is, what are some messages that we can convey to American women that, if listened to, would not only make them less miserable, but would help mend the damaged relations between men and women?

[–]slooberki 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I guess what I'm ultimately asking is, what are some messages that we can convey to American women that, if listened to, would not only make them less miserable, but would help mend the damaged relations between men and women?

"No, you can't have it all."

[–]Nantafiria 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just as you proooobably shouldn't keep telling young dudes they'll get the pretty girl in the end as long as they stay nice, you also shouldn't tell young women they deserve an attractive husband just because they exist.

The main difference is that when you're a stereotypical nice guy, attractive women will ignore you for long enough that you'll realise people have been lying to you eventually, years as though it may take. Young women, OTOH, can often get attention and sex from attractive men long enough that when they learn they've been lied to(if ever), it's often too late.