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Islamic extremist shot dead in Berlin after stabbing police officer (independent.co.uk)

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[–]bippity12 [スコア非表示]  (65子コメント)

The stabbed officer was taken to hospital for emergency surgery for her stab wound. She was also shot in the kidney by a stray bullet

Tough fucking day

[–]Type-21 [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

Police didn't miss a single shot. But one passed through the attacker and hit her :/

[–]GuapoWithAGun [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

I'm surprised the officer fired knowing she was behind him.

[–]FrySkyHigh [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

I know US police will commonly use hollow-point bullets that won't exit out the back of a person they enter, not sure what the procedure is in Berlin.

[–]sulami [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Afaik they do use hollowpoints with plastic tips. But depending on where and how you hit, even hollowpoints can just go through the target.

[–]splergel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Standard practice in most of Europe too, I believe. If I recall correctly the ammo is somewhat ironically banned for military use by the Geneva convention, but the military doesn't want it anyway while it's perfect for police use (which isn't covered by the convention).

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    [–]Pato_Lucas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Probably he thought that it was better risking shooting her than the certainty of keep being stabbed.

    [–]BeartrapSandwich [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    That's rule#4 right there.

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        [–]DavenF12 [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

        Fucking badass day, i bet she eats glass in the morning, without milk.

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          [–]p0tatoman 661ポイント662ポイント  (70子コメント)

          Dude looks as stereotypical as you can get.

          [–]candycanewalls 269ポイント270ポイント  (13子コメント)

          I was gonna say, he looks like he came right out of the Charlie Hebdo pages.

          [–]_Larry_Love_ [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

          this guy

          [–]phoxymoron 90ポイント91ポイント  (12子コメント)

          Looks like several of the edgelords I went to high school with.

          [–]ZQEE1 74ポイント75ポイント  (9子コメント)

          edgelords

          I love the English language, churning out vocab like this

          [–]fwipyok [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

          It works that way in other languages too. I would dare say 'most', because I only know 3 languages and in all 3 this works, but I don't want to risk it.

          [–]Rs90 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          Cheetolord is by far my favorite so far.

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              [–]Anivair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              Sort of, but if the headline read "Your Hipster Friend thinks Mumford and Sons is way more Fun on Heroin" he would also look exactly like I expected.

              [–]TheLurkerSpeaks 41ポイント42ポイント  (8子コメント)

              Dude looks like George Harrison

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                [–]dastweinerhund 86ポイント87ポイント  (12子コメント)

                After being convicted for his assassination plot, he was sentenced to eight years in prison. He was released early and allowed to stay in Germany, but had to wear an electronic tag. (There's your sign.)

                [–]Pro_Quote_Maker 352ポイント353ポイント  (188子コメント)

                For hours after the incident, it was reported as the actions of a mentally ill man, but after Rafik's previous convictions were revealed, it became clear it was an act of terror.

                [–]wine-o-saur 346ポイント347ポイント  (23子コメント)

                These are not mutually exclusive...

                [–]the_str [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

                "God wants me to stab a complete stranger in the neck." Clean bill of terrorism!

                [–]Asparachucks [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                Well, the Quran commands war against infidels. It's not unimaginable that some people read it for what it says.

                [–]DionysosX [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                It's an error to assume that every terrorist must be mentally ill, though. It's clear that the relatively high number of extremists in some demographics can't just be caused by genetics. It has been shown again and again that psychologically healthy people, if put into the right circumstances and given the right information, can turn into sadistic monsters.

                Assuming that it's only mental illness would completely shut down the discussion about the dangers of cultish mindsets that are introduced via sociological pathways. Actively resolving the problem is impossible if we were blind to this.

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                  [–]Pyriew 54ポイント55ポイント  (156子コメント)

                  What the fuck, German media?

                  [–]Hubinator 60ポイント61ポイント  (50子コメント)

                  Well he probably was mentally ill too.

                  [–]838h920 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  I've looked through several German media, and they all say that it is too early to determine whether or not it was an act of terror.

                  [–]Turambar87 39ポイント40ポイント  (25子コメント)

                  I'd say there isn't too much difference between the two.

                  "Crazy man stabs cop" vs "Crazy man stabs cop because Islam"

                  [–]Tintin113 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                  Yeah, what the fuck? Making a reasonable assumption and then correcting that with more accurate information later instead of jumping to the conclusion that he was a terrorist simply because he wasn't white?

                  If this guy was white and they'd jumped to the idea that he was a terrorist, I imagine you'd also be saying 'what the fuck?'

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                      [–]THIS-IS-FISH 1188ポイント1189ポイント  (704子コメント)

                      The 41-year-old Iraqi citizen....was one of three who were convicted for plotting to assassinate the former Prime Minister of Iraq, Iyad Allawi, during his visit to Berlin in 2004.

                      Wait, If he wasn't a German citizen and was a convicted terrorist then why the hell was he still allowed in the country, or not in prison for that matter? Is it common in Germany to let guys like this just wander about?

                      [–]Vorsplummi 211ポイント212ポイント  (69子コメント)

                      Did you read it trough? He did eight years in prison.

                      [–]spinh3ad [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

                      Sentenced to eight. Released early with an ankle bracelet.

                      [–]Schmohawker [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

                      8? I'm an American and am as outspoken as you can be against excessively long prison sentences (as my country is the worst offender), but 8 years for attempting to assassinate a world leader seems ridiculous. The reason I want non violent criminals, drug addicts, etc to see much reduced sentences is to free up prison space so guys like that can rot in jail for the rest of their lives. 8 years? Holy shit, that weak sentence almost cost somebody their life.

                      [–]Paleio [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                      but 8 years for attempting to assassinate a world leader seems ridiculous

                      In Germany you're sentenced because of attempted murder. It doesn't matter who you attempted to murder.

                      I think 8 years is a long time. But it was a very serious crime indeed, so that harsh sentence was justified. Also, releasing him early fits well into the German juristical system, which has the overarching goal to rehabilitate criminals, not to destroy them (yes, this does obviously not always work out).

                      [–]hotel2oscar [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                      Europe puts more stock in rehabilitation.

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                          [–]liptonreddit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          But 8 years was just the time to fill the paper work to get to stay in Germany !

                          [–]Sc3p 99ポイント100ポイント  (11子コメント)

                          Reading an article and educating yourself about the situation instead of spreading bullshit?

                          No way, this is /r/worldnews.

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                            [–]urbanfirestrike 281ポイント282ポイント  (526子コメント)

                            Because he would have been killed in his country

                            [–]THIS-IS-FISH 1354ポイント1355ポイント  (497子コメント)

                            So his refugee status overrides the fact that he was convicted terrorist? That's absolutely bonkers.

                            [–]bjarkebjarke 720ポイント721ポイント  (314子コメント)

                            So his refugee status overrides the fact that he was convicted terrorist?

                            Yes, in my country(Denmark), there was a story about a Taleban-leader getting protected asylum in our country because he defected from the Taleban and.. was thus, in danger in Afghanistan.

                            How nice our soldiers who fought with Americans and British in Helmand can go to the local Føtex for shopping and run into the guy who they used to chase, living off their tax money now.. That's fucked up.

                            [–]DerelictMuntersnatch 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            That kind of actually makes sense in a kind of Homeland-style way.

                            Political protection? Nothing new really.

                            [–]nattetosti 207ポイント208ポイント  (264子コメント)

                            Defecting from the Taleban, as in renouncing his old ways, thus putting himself and his family in great danger, does qualify for asylum I believe. Do you not? If this guy was still pro-Taleban I'd get your point.

                            [–]sirseal 75ポイント76ポイント  (22子コメント)

                            "You know, I'm really sorry about murdering those people. I have renounced my ways! No more killing!"

                            [–]crasher555 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                            Where is the accountability? There are consequences for his actions. A rapist cannot stop raping and just expect society to let him wander free.

                            [–]paper_liger [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            A rapist certainly can, otherwise we wouldn't let anyone out of prison ever. Sometimes people get involved with shitty organizations or make stupid disgusting choices. We can't just execute them. And we shouldn't if we could.

                            One of my friends in the military was in a gang before he joined. He had to have his gang tattoos removed to join up, but he did it because it was the only way he could make it out of that life, he did it for his daughter. Now he tells me that if he ever goes back and people from that life see him without his tattoos they'll kill him.

                            I've fought in the middle east, and I know better than most that not everyone we fought was a bad person. Some of them were fighting for what they considered noble reasons, and a lot of them were just young uneducated kids who were led into it by their elders. That didn't matter much to me if they started shooting at me of course, not much time for philosophy in a gunfight, but if someone surrenders, tries to change, you fucking need to capitalize on that.

                            Just because this guy acted like the proverbial scorpion on the frogs back doesn't mean everyone, or even most would.

                            So yeah, fuck this guy in particular, but treating your enemy as if it's a monolithic inhuman group of clones is just as ridiculous as the backwards religious stuff the Taliban believed in.

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                              [–]skinny_b 191ポイント192ポイント  (161子コメント)

                              Defecting from the Taleban, as in renouncing his old ways, thus putting himself and his family in great danger, does qualify for asylum I believe. Do you not?

                              Hell no. He made his bed so he can lie in it. What if I was a drug dealer that killed people and decided I wanted to stop because now I have people coming after me? Should my government say, "oh it's okay, you're reformed. Here, have some free government benefits."

                              How nice our soldiers who fought with Americans in Helmand can go to the local Føtex for shopping and run into the guy who they used to chase, living off their tax money now.. That's fucked up.

                              Extremely fucked up.

                              [–]Athole 216ポイント217ポイント  (138子コメント)

                              What if I was a drug dealer that killed people and decided I wanted to stop because now I have people coming after me?

                              It's called turn states evidence and it happens all the time. That's what the WPA is for.

                              Extremely fucked up.

                              Yeah, I mean I guess you would much rather have him out there shooting our soldiers still. If we don't incentivize the enemy to give up their fight, we don't win. This dude did, we won.
                              Instead, what you are saying, is you would rather the enemy have 1 more soldier, and you would rather his children grow up in an environment where they will certainly become the next generation of soldiers - or dead... because, you know, it's their fault their father is a dick, so we should punish them.

                              [–]luciferisgreat [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                              This kind of liberal thinking really bothers me. You would rather give the enemies free money so they can come to your country? These assassins who have no qualm about killing you or blowing you up?

                              That makes no sense to me.

                              [–]skinny_b [スコア非表示]  (86子コメント)

                              Instead, what you are saying, is you would rather the enemy have 1 more soldier, and you would rather his children grow up in an environment where they will certainly become the next generation of soldiers

                              You speak as if they completely change their ways once they immigrate. As if they're no longer "soldiers" once they become refugees.

                              Well here we have a "refugee" stabbing a police officer after walking down the street with a knife screaming about Islam.

                              I'd rather have him on the battlefield than in my hometown.

                              [–]ShaftGlutton [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                              I would rather he not exist

                              [–]cathartis [スコア非表示]  (38子コメント)

                              You speak as if you are dealing with manufactured products not with real people.

                              Every person, even Taliban members, is an individual, and should be judged accordingly to their own merits, not according to what some lunatic from a completely different country, whom they have never even met, has done with a knife.

                              Personally, whilst I would quite readily agree that the Taliban contains a large number of religious nutters, I also suspect that it contains a fair number of simple patriotic folk who simply joined up in order to defend their country from a foreign invader (i.e. us), without having a great deal of knowledge of the wider political situation.

                              [–]daimposter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Personally, whilst I would quite readily agree that the Taliban contains a large number of religious nutters, I also suspect that it contains a fair number of simple patriotic folk who simply joined up in order to defend their country from a foreign invader (i.e. us), without having a great deal of knowledge of the wider political situation.

                              I don't know why people find this hard to understand. The Taliban is not al Qaeda. They are a government....a government we don't' agree with but a government that think it is still the rightful ruler of Afghanistan. There are certain to be a lot of patriotic people in the Taliban that don't agree with terrorist groups like Al Qaeda

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                                [–]daimposter [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                                Well here we have a "refugee" stabbing a police officer after walking down the street with a knife screaming about Islam.

                                So an anecdate means it must be a major problem and thus we must stop giving asylum to anyone that has defective from something we disagree with. Got it.

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                                  [–]Antagonator [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                                  If we don't incentivize the enemy to give up their fight, we don't win. This dude did, we won.

                                  He stabbed a cop in a city, I'd say that's as bad as trying to shoot at our soldiers.

                                  Wait, that's fucking worse.

                                  Instead, what you are saying, is you would rather the enemy have 1 more soldier, and you would rather his children grow up in an environment where they will certainly become the next generation of soldiers - or dead... because, you know, it's their fault their father is a dick, so we should punish them.

                                  We don't have unlimited space, we shouldn't waste what precious bit we have on known terrorists and their families.

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                                    [–]twelvemongooses [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                    But surely as a governent you want your key enemy leaders to defect? You offer a sweet deal so they'll do so, not out of the goodness of your heart.

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                                          [–]Laxman259 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          No, the EU doesnt allow deportation/extradition if it is for a Capital crime in the country that they would be going to.

                                          [–]PSCLAI 48ポイント49ポイント  (50子コメント)

                                          Germany doesn't extradite persons accused of capital crimes to countries which refuse to guarantee that no death penalty will be carried out. It's called national sovereignty.

                                          [–]Vik1ng 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          So his refugee status overrides

                                          No. Facing the death penalty does.

                                          [–]Isord 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          It doesn't say anywhere that this guy was a refugee. It says he was convicted in 2004 (I.E. WAY BEFORE NOW) and was released 8 years later and put on parole, essentially. Where was he prior to 2004? How long has he been in Germany?

                                          [–]DerelictMuntersnatch 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          World news discussion as to why he was "let in":

                                          1. Refugee status overrode the fact he was a convicted terrorist due to leftwing political sentiment.

                                          2. He lied or tricked his way into Germany what with being a mischievous Muslim terrorist and all.

                                          Normal version of discussion:

                                          plus 3. It was a mistake and he just slipped through due to lack of resources and attention.

                                          [–]Monkey_Junk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          Seriously. There are over 7 billion people in the world. Some are going to get lucky/unlucky and fall through the cracks.

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                                            [–]Vanilla_Princess 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Pretty much. We had a 'refugee' who had a history of war crimes we couldn't send back because he would be killed.

                                            [–]chadderbox 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            He ended up killed in Germany. The only difference is he was able to stab a German police officer before it took place.

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                                              [–]CeterumCenseo85 [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

                                              We don't send away people if it is likely that they will be tortured or killed in their home country.

                                              He also spent 8 years in prison.

                                              [–]elfearsrbig [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                              Clearly those 8 years didn't change his ways. I'm not saying we kill people or let them rot in jail for every offence, but if this guy is willing to kill other people due to personal beliefs, I don't think he deserves our amnesty. Maybe he'll be killed back home, but I don't believe that it's our job to protect him if he's actively a danger to people in the country that's protecting him. I think there comes a point where people exhaust the good graces of their host countries. This is a good example of this ]

                                              [–]yosoymarijuana [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              No he didn't. He was sentenced to 8 years on 2008 but was released early.

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                                                [–]SquidBlub [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                After being convicted for his assassination plot, he was sentenced to eight years in prison. He was released early and allowed to stay in Germany, but had to wear an electronic tag.

                                                Europe pls

                                                I'm American so maybe this is completely off-base, or maybe growing up in a cutthroat fuck you kind of country has given me a unique perspective. I feel like you guys are basing decisions on how you'd like the world to be, rather than how the world actually is.

                                                Now obviously a revolutionary mindset is needed for change -- that is, if you want the world to change to some extent you have to base your actions around your vision -- but letting a known terrorist hang around in your country because the other terrorists don't like him is the height of frou frou we-are-the-world fuckery and you should've seen this coming. Who gives a shit if the Taliban kills him? He's not German. You have no obligation to care about him.

                                                Hopefully this'll be a catalyst for change in how Europe deals with flagrantly recidivist immigrants.

                                                What this says to me is "We care more about the safety of foreign terrorists than our own citizens"

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                                                  [–]bm117 55ポイント56ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                  Is the officer ok?? The article was pretty vague about her condition.

                                                  [–]838h920 [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

                                                  The stabbed officer was taken to hospital for emergency surgery for her stab wound. She was also shot in the kidney by a stray bullet, but is said to be "out of danger".

                                                  [–]Artess [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

                                                  I'm curious, does the second sentence mean that she was accidentally shot by her partner?

                                                  [–]NapalmRDT [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                  According to the information given to us, since no other shooters were mentioned, one can only assume so.

                                                  [–]838h920 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                                  Ihr Kollege gab daraufhin Schüsse auf den Täter ab. Dabei soll ein Schuss die Frau getroffen haben. Source

                                                  Her partner fired shots at the culprit. It is believed that one of them hit the woman. (translated by me)

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                                                        [–]FookMiFookYuu 54ポイント55ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                        Dude's got 3 eyebrows.

                                                        [–]moonflash1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                        This comment is addressed at some of the misinformation in this thread. This guy had been living in Germany since 2006. He was convicted of plotting murder of the Iraqi president in 2008 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. In 2013, he was released on probation and was required to wear an electronic leg tag 24/7. On 18. September, the police was alerted that the electronic tag has been removed and that this guy was at large. Same day, in another part of town, police was alerted that a mad guy is threatening some pedestrians with a knife. Police arrived on the scene and what do you know, it's the same guy. They tried to arrest him, he resisted, got shot. And nothing of value was lost.

                                                        Source for information about suspect

                                                        German article about the whole situation

                                                        [–]Ndafed1776 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                        Let's keep brining in more Syrians !

                                                        [–]Mnementh2230 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                        ...and nothing of value was lost. I'll shed no tears for a dead extremist.

                                                        [–]AmoebaMcSqueaky [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                        That unibrow looks like it can bridge the dimensions of heaven and hell.

                                                        [–]just_arealist 128ポイント129ポイント  (53子コメント)

                                                        As a non Muslim Arab I'm petrified of our future (our children) because of these animals not being able to control their barbaric religious impulses.

                                                        [–]czhunc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                        Stabbed AND shot within a few minutes. What a shitty day.

                                                        [–]redsfan17 289ポイント290ポイント  (53子コメント)

                                                        God help Germany now after letting in piles of these people. There will be lots of refugees who will contribute to the economy and society for the better but you know damn well there will be many bad apples amongst them. They get into our free and democratic countries because we are civil and let them but then they want to turn the country into a shit hole like their own.

                                                        I cannot wait for the day when religious fundamentalism is considered a mental illness. It's scary the foothold these people are getting.

                                                        [–]dizekat [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                        He's not part of recent refugees, he been there for years, been in prison, been monitored, was successfully prevented from obtaining anything but a knife. He's part of this constant tiny trickle of "they'll be killed in their home country for a reason, we disagree with killing anyone" refugees, not a part of "normal people run away from war" refugees that they're getting now.

                                                        [–]AntiChr1st [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

                                                        Don't worry, Sweden is being the canary in the mine, the problem will be solved.

                                                        [–]Junoh315 [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

                                                        Sweden is an example of the canary dying but the people thinking that it's still fine to keep going forward.

                                                        [–]AntiChr1st [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                                                        Canary ain't dead yet, don't worry, when he kicks the bucket it will be VERY noticable and the example set will move the rest of Europe to action

                                                        [–]humeanation [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                                                        I'm a bit /r/OutoftheLoop here, what's this about Sweden?

                                                        [–]Georgeorwellwaswrong [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                        As a Dane who visited Malmø this weekend i can tell you the Canary is definetly dead, i properbly saw 10 Swedish people at the most, the rest was imigrants from the Middle East, none of them spoke Swedish by the way,

                                                        [–]Pug_grama [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                        I think France will go down first. They are almost 10% Muslim and recently had soldiers in their streets trying to keep order. It is just a matter of time before civil war. Just like Yugoslavia. Any country with a substantial Muslim minority ends in civil war.

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                                                                [–]BumbleTummy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                This must be some sort of misunderstanding. I've been assured that all the Muslims filling the country are just looking for help and will only enrich this nation.

                                                                [–]lunarlumberjack 12ポイント13ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                What's with these extremists always pointing their finger in the air?

                                                                http://i.imgur.com/KvYMEE4.jpg

                                                                http://i.imgur.com/9Rr3B81.jpg

                                                                http://i.imgur.com/1qY1qE4.jpg

                                                                [–]Calaban007 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                You have to have these people infiltrate into western societies so they can plot and kill spreading terror with in them. Then as the governments peel back personal freedoms and liberties the public will go along with it because it keeps them safe from the terrorist the government unleashed on its own people. I'm not a conspiracy nut but god damn what kind of imbeciles would allow something like that to happen unless they had a ulterior motives.

                                                                [–]Legend9119 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                It's a shame some people have to ruin it for the rest.

                                                                [–]redditispants [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                immigrant allowed to stay in Berlin after being convicted of terrorism

                                                                Multiculturalism is absolute madness.

                                                                [–]Nicenightforawalk01 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                This happened yesterday and only reached the top now? Come on Reddit you can do better than that with this new system.

                                                                [–]-SPACETARD- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                We'll be seeing more of this as time goes on. It's not going to help public opinion either. I have a feeling theres going to be a ton of civil strife. People taking things into their own hands.

                                                                I'm also worried that all the hate for the refugees will push them into the arms of the radicals.

                                                                It's gonna get bloody.

                                                                [–]ihateslowdrivers 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                So peaceful

                                                                [–]Scotty70 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                Islamic extremists are like roaches. By the time you actually see and kill one in your home there are already hundreds more hiding in your home.

                                                                [–]drippinglead 39ポイント40ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                Am I supposed to be mad at Germany for allowing knives? Or, mad a the German police for shooting someone? Or, am I supposed to feel bad for non-extremists getting a bad rap for this?

                                                                [–]fiah84 [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                                                                islam doesn't kill people, knives kill people! All knives will be banned and you will eat your schnitzel with a fork

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                                                                  [–]d3pd 60ポイント61ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                                  Islamic extremist purist

                                                                  [–]particle409 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  His unibrow game was on point.

                                                                  [–]Matthew94 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  The stabbed officer was taken to hospital for emergency surgery for her stab wound. She was also shot in the kidney by a stray bullet, but is said to be "out of danger".

                                                                  God damn, what a bad day.

                                                                  [–]Solar_Cycle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Add this to the ongoing clashes (use google translate) between Turks and Kurds inside Germany and you've got a glorious multicultural paradise to look forward to.

                                                                  I expect this violence will escalate to guns/bombs as well.

                                                                  My standing immigration question would be - "how much does your ethnic, cultural, or religious identity mean to you?" Anything more than "it doesn't" and back you go to your cherished homeland.

                                                                  [–]noimportantone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Good.

                                                                  [–]TalenGTP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Good

                                                                  [–]derfury [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Rafik Y. Anyone else just thinking of the lion king?

                                                                  [–]Under3mployd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  "identified only as Rafik Y" - adding to the evil of his plan is how his name comes close tainting the Lion King movies. Sounds like the evil brother to Rafiki

                                                                  [–]m1ndbl0wn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Extreme monobrow.

                                                                  [–]Nerdenator [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Well... bye.

                                                                  [–]Jackmessier [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Couldn't they have just shot the knife out of his hand? Why'd they have to kill him? #jihadilivesmatter

                                                                  [–]WlknSpc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Nice! Wipe the islamic trash off the planet

                                                                  [–]MadMaxGamer 125ポイント126ポイント  (124子コメント)

                                                                  Germany treated east europeans like shit when they came to look for jobs in the 90s. Polish,czech,romanian, estonian, we all wanted to live there and didnt care about religion and ideals, we just wanted a decent life, but germans dont like people that aren`t exacly like them, so many of us got turned back. Enjoy syrians, Germany.

                                                                  [–]boppps 37ポイント38ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  They weren't black enough.

                                                                  [–]Absolute_Zoro 102ポイント103ポイント  (53子コメント)

                                                                  Thank you! That's exactly how I feel. My family moved to Germany from Russia in the 90s. My mother is ethnically German, so called "Russlanddeutsche". My family was "invited" to move to Germany and we were treated like shit. My parents couldn't find a job though both of them has a university diploma. We basically lived in poverty and even now not everythings is perfect.

                                                                  But now suddenly everybody loves migrants and want more of them in the country. It's a fucking farce.

                                                                  [–]imatsor 134ポイント135ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                                                  2.5 MILLION "Russlanddeutsche" came to germany in the years after 1990 (nearly 200.000 every year) and until 1997 they've got automatically the german citizenship, even if they didn't speak a single german word.

                                                                  So on top of the efforts to build up the ruine formally called GDR, the germans also had to deal with masses of so called "germans" who didn't even speak a word of german. many of them were farmers with no useful skill for a modern society and you are surprized that the Germans didn't welcome everyone with open arms??

                                                                  [–]Hegel1 49ポイント50ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                  na, he is just one of the losers that didnt cut it here in germany. usually big families that didnt give a fuck about the language, because why if you dont need to.

                                                                  they got money for everything,free housing, welfare, starting money.

                                                                  he is just bitching thinking the new refugees will have it better than they got.

                                                                  they always forget that we had the reunification of east and west germany, they cut social security and stuff, but they were treated very well. if you wanted to make it in 90s germany, you made it.

                                                                  i know a lot russland deutsche, and they only reached social status and riches by integrating, some even cant speak russian anymore because the parents stopped talking russian at home.

                                                                  and that is how you make it in germany, dont have a thick accent, hide your machismo and cut down a little on the aggression, boom you are german.

                                                                  edit: now the guy is mad and telling me he gets a Ph.D. look at how horrible germany treated him and his family.

                                                                  no wonder people turn away from immigrants and refugees when 20 years later they do their Ph.D. and tell you how horrible the nation is that gave them everything they have today.thats cool.

                                                                  [–]windirein [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Nah man. You gotta get free money, free living space and then some and still complain about how you weren't welcome. Because germany was obligated to take in those russians in the first place, amirite?

                                                                  For everyone that fails to join the german society there is a russian/turkish/arab/asian family that managed to do so by actually learning the language and putting themselves out there.

                                                                  People who didn't make it didn't even try and now blame everyone but themselves.

                                                                  [–]Hegel1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  For everyone that fails to join the german society there is a russian/turkish/arab/asian family that managed to do so by actually learning the language and putting themselves out there.

                                                                  BINGO! germany looks after your housing,clothing, food and education.

                                                                  the rest has to come from oneself, but as you can see,we get shit on 20 years later by a dude who gets his Ph.D. now.

                                                                  is it time for a CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE or am i doing this wrong?

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                                                                    [–]Xerodan 20ポイント21ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                    My family are Russlanddeutsche, and it's, for example, definitely not true that we didn't speak German, my grandmother and all of her family for example speaks Plattdüütsch, albeit an old and quite different version of it.
                                                                    A lot of those who came were quite young, 20 at the time, and learned the language quickly.
                                                                    The second/third generation is mostly completely integrated.
                                                                    One problem is that Russian-Germans are usually a close-knit community, and thus they tend to form ghettos, at least the socially underprivileged.
                                                                    Another problem is the cultural divide, since those people who came had basically a mindset still stuck in the 50s. And you can't imagine how little they got when they first moved here. My family got a 1 or 2 room flat, I don't remember anymore which, for 5 people.

                                                                    [–]windirein [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    What do you mean, "how little they got" ? You got the flats for free? Or was that all you could afford? I'm quite wondering what your point is.

                                                                    [–]URPerfect [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                                    Are you sure you are not American? I was under impression that only here people have the audacity to complain about free housing and benefits they never worked for... TIL

                                                                    [–]Hegel1 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                    nope. this is what germany gets for taking in russians while west germany fed the east germans, worked their asses off, had their social security cut,their taxes upped and had to give up the deutsche mark for the greater good ( without euro no reunification, thx france and UK)

                                                                    people like him come always out of the woodwork, read the rest of his comments, he is getting a Ph.D. germany was really bad to him.

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                                                                      [–]noirpied [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Idgi were you supposed to have been given MORE for nothing?

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                                                                          [–]dizekat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                          They gave you citizenship and equal opportunity to get jobs as their own citizens * , which is a lot, lot better than what people had in Russia in the 1990s. * who also had trouble getting jobs you know. You had access to free education.

                                                                          They gave it to you and 2.5 millions others specifically because of the race. Do you have any clue what the fuck was happening in Russia in 1990s? Do you have any idea what your volksdeutsche asses had escaped? The actual not enough food poverty.

                                                                          Germans simply should have applied an equal standard to anyone regardless of their ancestry. Then if they wanted 2.5 millions Russians they could've chosen people who do speak good German and have employable skills, and Germany would have been a lot better off with those people as new citizens. Ethnic driven policies are ineffective as they sacrifice efficiency in the name of ethnic discrimination.

                                                                          [–]windirein [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                          So....why did you move away from russia? Both of them have diplomas, why not stay in russia and help to make it a better country? And I really want to know how you have been "treated like shit". Because you haven't. If you would've been, you would've went back to mother russia because you make it sound like it treated you well. Or what was the reason you left in the first place? Exactly.

                                                                          [–]tecnicaltictac [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Maybe things are changing. "Die Wende" was 25 years ago, since then, a lot of time has passed, a new generation was born. Maybe people in Germany are more open and tolerant than 25 years ago.

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                                                                            [–]if-loop 21ポイント22ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                            germans dont like people that aren`t exacly like them, so many of us got turned back.

                                                                            Enjoy syrians

                                                                            Wait, are you saying Syrians are exactly like Germans and that's why they don't get turned back?

                                                                            Are you saying all the millions of Italians, Greeks, Turks, and whatnot living in Germany are (or were) exactly like Germans?

                                                                            By the way, there are many Eastern Europeans (including Russians) in Germany by now and they're really well integrated (except Roma).

                                                                            we all wanted to live there ..., we just wanted a decent life

                                                                            And that's the reason why some/many got rejected: Economic migrants aren't welcome in general if the economy doesn't need them at that moment, but that's not a German quirk. In the 90s, Germany first had to fix the GDR region before taking in more people (and that's not even really finished yet).

                                                                            [–]boppps 27ポイント28ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                            He means that in order for eastern european man to move to Germany, you have to do some paperwork which may take months, you need university degree, you need language knowledge and lots of money as a start-up capital. And even then there is a chance you get rejected.

                                                                            But those basically worthless "immigrants" from Africa and ME get instant access, instant benefits and etc. Why? Are eastern europeans not black enough?

                                                                            Better taking in a muslim peasant, than a eastern european doctor/engineer. Amirite?

                                                                            [–]SimyK 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Thing is he and his family came as immigrants. So of course there's paper work. You basically always need a degree/enough education have german roots/ money or a job to move to germany or even more so to become a german citizen. Why should it be any different?

                                                                            They didn't come from a war torn country, they werent starving and probably not sleeping in tents. Apparantly (at least it sounds like that) they expected to just arrive here and get a job while germany hat major problems resulting from the reunification.

                                                                            The situation now is completly different. Now you have people who got nothing, not even tents and they got their last bit of money stolen by human trafficers. Winter is coming and it will be really awful when they have to sleep on the streets..

                                                                            [–]verty101 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                            But those basically worthless "immigrants" from Africa and ME get instant access, instant benefits and etc. Why? Are eastern europeans not black enough?

                                                                            I think it might have something to do with the fact that they are refugees and not normal immigrants.

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                                                                                  [–]BaronECM [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                                                  get used to it, these recent "refugees" are full of Islamic extremists just like this guy (who has been in the country for quite a while). Even those who don't consider themselves "hard-core" Muslims still support ISIS, sharia law, and the rest of the bullshit that comes from that barbaric part of the world.

                                                                                  Just look in the videos how they behave- screaming "Allah is great" at the cameras, holding up ISIS flags, making executing gestures with their hands, throwing rocks at police, demanding everything under the sun (the entitlement is fucking unbelievable).

                                                                                  These people don't belong in the west- they don't believe in free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, separation of church and state, democracy, and all the other pillars of the western world. They support honor killings, the rape of children, the rape of women, and all other forms of violence. This is going to blow up in Europe's face on a scale of epic proportions.

                                                                                  [–]abrittain2401 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                                                                                  Aaaand this is why Europe shouldn't be welcoming 100k's of new MUSLIM immigrants with open fucking arms....

                                                                                  [–]kyazu [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                                  It's not the refugees you should worry about. They'll undergo more scrutiny than the average European would,and lack friends and connections within the community. From ISIS' perspective, a refugee is simply not as viable a terror recruit as a European native would be. Beyond this, the Assad regime is hurting more from the sudden downtick in its population. It would be strategically inadvisable for ISIS to do something that would discourage this trend, especially given their stated goal of establishing a ridiculously large caliphate in the middle east

                                                                                  You SHOULD be concerned about the citizens of your own country. ISIS has a strong online presence,and is doing whatever it can to recruit radical Sunnis and anarchists in western countries.

                                                                                  [–]tyroneking [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  Amen to that - the refugees are fleeing from the ISIS fuckers, it's our own stupid citizens that are going the other way. Private Eye says about 700 from the UK have gone to ISIS. MI6 should welcome them back and give them some spare ammo as a gift - if you know what I mean.

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                                                                                      [–]AlabasterBear 17ポイント18ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                                                      He would have been shot for stabbing a police officer if he was a Muslim or if he was a Christian...

                                                                                      [–]Tephnos [スコア非表示]  (25子コメント)

                                                                                      When have you ever heard of a Christian extremist killing people in Europe to spread Christianity (or in a ME country for that matter?)

                                                                                      I think the point is that Islamic extremism happens way more often.

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                                                                                        [–]Thtb 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Welp, doubled last years kill score, go Germany.

                                                                                        [–]heyheyravens [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                                                                        This is only the beginning for Europe and Germany. How many ISIS members have already snuck into Europe already? Everyone is so afraid of standing up to PC liberal bullshit for fear of being labeled a 'racist' that they're now too afraid to stand up for their own self-preservation. Just wait until they successfully set off a dirty bomb at a Christian holy site in Europe and make it off limits for 1000 years from radioactive contamination. Only then will the West finally wakeup to the cancer they've allowed into their borders.

                                                                                        [–]DiscoYou [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        This guy didn't need to sneek anywhere:

                                                                                        After being convicted for his assassination plot, he was sentenced to eight years in prison. He was released early and allowed to stay in Germany, but had to wear an electronic tag.

                                                                                        [–]lostmywayboston [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        Nobody's setting off a radiological bomb, this isn't a movie.

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