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[–]mediumdeviationTwilight Sparkle[🍰] 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

When a Ship is introduced into a fanfic, a blog, or even just an art gallery, it crowds out everything else.

I'm not going to comment on the other two, but for fanfics, I don't think this is true at all. Either you're reading a [Romance] story, in which case the ship is, well, the entire point of the story, and you know what you're getting into, or it's just an incidental detail, in which case that's what it exactly is - a detail in the background. If the fic you're reading doesn't so this, then you're reading a bad fic, the solution to which is very simply to find something better to read

[–]KravenErgeist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In OP's defense, I've often found that the popular ships overcrowd other ships by an overwhelming margin though. When searching for fanart or fan fiction of one less popular or obscure ship, it can be quite aggravating to have to wade through countless redundant copies of the same popular ship that either you don't like or agree with or have just grown tired of. And yes, some websites like derpibooru and fimfiction use filters, but not every website does, and not everyone who posts use those filters correctly, so at best, using filters reduces the number of hits you can get.

[–]suddenly_ponies 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shippers are those who are devoted to romantic pairings to the point that it commonly becomes the theme of their interactions with others in the community, whether wanted or no

TL;DR you don't hate shippers, you hate obnoxious people. Just like when someone says they hate bronies when that they mean is they hate bronies who shove ponies into every interaction.

[–]SeatieBeltApplejack 28ポイント29ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm sorry to hear that you have bad experience with shippers. Most of your complaints sound pretty much like problems you'd have with most youngsters in general. "Kids these days focus so much on X that they ignore everything else." "Kids these days are so intent on believing they're right about everything." "Kids these days don't understand how love works!"

Now I know there's more to it than that, but one thing to remember is that a large number of fans are pretty young. Looking at romance in a shallow way is pretty dang normal for young people and even adults with little experience with it. And in many cases, fics are written as escapism, to a place where romance is that simple.

Personally, I don't have any do-or-die ships. I have my favorites, like TwiJack (I highly recommend that fic for a romance that focuses on things other than scenes of passion), but I'm willing to give just about anything a read.

So basically my advice is to try not to let it bother you. Look at the shallowness, realize it's not unusual and that hopefully those kids will mature into reasonable adults, and enjoy yourself.

[–]CogitationPrincess Celestia 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honestly his "shipping isn't realistic" argument is pretty weak.

Who the fuck wants to watch a couple make a monthly budget?

[–]SeatieBeltApplejack 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think his argument is less that and more "Love is more than cuddles and kisses" which is what most shipfics focus on: dates and physical love.

That's why I suggested "Yours Truly." It's an example of a shipfic where the romance focuses on the emotional and mental aspects rather than the physical. There's no dichotomy of "either physicality or boring taxes," you can absolutely show love blooming realistically without either of those things.

[–]ApplejinxRarity 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wrote a book that slowly and awkwardly shipped Apple Bloom and Diamond Tiara, despite every effort by Diamond and the other CMCs (now well into puberty) to stop it. They became a rather well-adjusted and healthy couple, with Diamond changing the most.

I could write a scene with them making a monthly budget and have it be AWESOME because their attitudes and abilities for such a thing are totally different, but they'd be trying to work together and reach a consensus. Diamond's the one with the fancy mathematics, but she hasn't got practical experience with farm work and might make wrong assumptions.

I admit most people wouldn't be able to do this.

…and on reflection, my whole stock in trade as a writer is making the most of the conflicts and real-life style obstacles ponies might run into, so on at least those grounds I'm not the type of shipper being objected to. I'm sure there's still room for objection, though!

[–]SparroewModerator of /r/mylittlepony 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

So in other words, /u/SnickyMcNibits is a crotchety old man complaining about "kids these days" and yelling for people to get off his lawn?

[–]SeatieBeltApplejack 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahahaha maybe, but my point was mainly that we shouldn't be surprised

[–]SnickyMcNibitsParty Favor[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well as I said I don't have a problem with the concept of shipping in general. Some people find certain pairs super cute, others do not. I even have a few pairs myself that I like.

And yeah, this is more of a "get it off my chest" thing. I recognize that there's a lot of reasonable people who ship, but what I categorize as "shippers" are the more extreme end, and this is more me trying to put it down in writing what I dislike about what they do rather than just being super passive aggressive about it.

[–]IrishB_CubedApplejack 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sounds rather like the internet in general about this fandom. Most fans are pretty chill, enjoy the show, some collect stuff, and like to talk about it among themselves but outside of this, appear as general mundane to everyone else. Who does the Internet focus on, the extreme fan who takes things too far, even though they are the minority.

Most shippers I notice are the same way, they think "hey that's a cute ship pic" or write a story about a particular ship, or have their favorite, but realize no ship is canon, period. However those who take it to far are the ones people tend to notice.

[–]BeheskaFluttershy 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

You made the Princess of maritime affairs sad.

[–]NOTShutup868Applejack 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Cadance is the Princess of the Sea?

[–]BeheskaFluttershy 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, she's in charge of every officially sanctioned shipping :p

[–]Cadenzas_Disciple 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Romantic Logistics up in dis piece.

[–]BeheskaFluttershy 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

... and now I want to buy a boat and call it "Ranch dressing."

[–]the_juicy_sultanaRarity 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Ranch dressing" gets me every time.

[–]PolarisBeaverThunderlane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

SHOO-BEEDOO-SHOOSHOO-BEDOO!!!

[–]the_juicy_sultanaRarity 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

This makes me want some kind of salty old self-appointed guardian of the sea that sits in a lighthouse all the time.

[–]LunarWolvesNightmare Moon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Poseidon?

[–]suddenly_ponies 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then Twilight x Luna got introduced, and the blog has been about nothing BUT Twilight x Luna since.

It's in the middle of telling a story. Of course that's all it's about at the moment. When the story is done, maybe something else will come along.

All they did for 4 seasons is stand next to each other in the background and people are were totally convinced they were lovers.

Or.... they liked the idea and followed their inspiration. This can be done while still knowing that they're not actually canon lovers.

The writers later clarified that they were sisters, a thought that probably never crossed people’s minds because two ponies hanging out together are obviously a couple.

Or.... people aren't as dumb as you claim and KNOW that there are few confirmed relationships in the show, but like love and love stories.

No, X ship is totally canon and you’re simply in denial

This is sounding a lot like my brony defense videos except now I have to do it for shippers. Same rebuttal: how many total people are you talking about who say this? Like 10? You've got a fairly long and detailed complaint here for something that I don't believe is actually a problem.

The way shipping is handled reminds me more of those couples making out in the halls between classes in high school than any sort of healthy relationship.

Wouldn't that depend on the shipper? Some are quite good.

[–]SSJ5Gogetenks 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Getting upset about shipping seems silly to me. It's not gonna stop, period, and I think you're taking it much more seriously than most of the shippers in the MLP fandom do. Come to think of it, I haven't come across any rabid "MUH OTP" crazy people in this fandom yet. That's good. Anyway, apart from the ones who get REALLY mad about their OTP, shippers are just normal people having a laugh mainly.

EDIT: One of my favourite MLP ships is Twilight x Cadence so that should give you some indication of how seriously I take it. It's all for funzies.

[–]FaceDeer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But they're sisters! They'll have inbred foals together! Noooo

[–]MyrandallPrincess Luna 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twilight x Cadence

That's a new one.

[–]SpectrumancerQueen Chrysalis 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like shipping, it can make for really interesting material, exploring (either in art or fiction) how two people interact on that personal level.

When done correctly.

I also agree with all your points.

[–]fastfingeDerpy Hooves 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who spends most of my time in the Harry Potter fandom, this complaint is interesting to me, because I often find myself resorting to MLP in order to avoid the horrible HP shippers. At least in fanfic, if MLP's problem is self-inserts (IMHO anyway), Harry Potter fandoms problem is terrible, terrible shipfics. I have never read a fimfic that was entirely devoted to character bashing. Well, accept for how Twillight Sparkle's awesome adventure feels about Fluttershy, of course. But I think we can count that one out. In Harry Potter fanfic, on the other hand, nearly every Harry/Hermione fic is devoted in large part to bashing Ron. As in, that makes up almost the entirety of the plot, if a plot exists. Of the few MLP shipfics I've read, none of the authors seem to feel the need to make every single other pony who's even friends with the two ponies they ship some kind of horrible representation of ultimate evil. So even when an MLP fic contains a ship I dislike, I find it way, way more readable than a Harry Potter shipfic. The only reason I can read and enjoy a lot of Harry Potter fanfics at all is because Harry/Hermione is my OTP. Even if I had a pony OTP, I feel like that wouldn't prevent me from reading other pairings, because MLP shippers just aren't as bitter and nasty as some HP folks have become.

TL;DR: you've got it easy in this community, and most of your shippers are pretty reasonable compared to elsewhere in fandom.

[–]PheiTwilight Sparkle 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just like really cute Twishy pics like this or this.

[–]TrimmersX7/r/SquaredCircle Exchange User 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't even want to see them constantly having sex? You're disgusting and perverted.

Cute and normal ship pics.....smh.

[–]MyrandallPrincess Luna 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

My favorite example here is Lyra and Bon Bon. All they did for 4 seasons is stand next to each other in the background and people are were totally convinced they were lovers.

I don't think anyone took this seriously. Some people envisioned them as a couple and it caught on, but I've never seen anybody claim it's canon.

In the most recent episode we had a pair of ponies that went shopping together. BAM! instant ship. The writers later clarified that they were sisters, a thought that probably never crossed people’s minds because two ponies hanging out together are obviously a couple.

Again, nobody claims it's even remotely canon. People just love playing around with "What if" scenarios.

The way these characters are being portrayed I just honestly cannot see these characters living each other’s lives, still strong 10 or 20 years down the line. It seems like everyone gets stuck in the idea that a relationship is just a string of ‘passion’ scenes with nothing else to it.

The better fanfic writers handle this well, but you have to keep in mind that those ARE the more interesting parts of a fictional relationship. That's the whole point of romance novels. They're not about how a couple handles their taxes for a good reason. You have to keep things interesting.

[–]JesterOfDestinyLyra 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

but I've never seen anybody claim it's canon.

Erm, do we visit the same subreddit? I've barely seen anyone NOT claim it's canon. In fact those who say they're just friends are very much in the minority. They're stuck between the people who think everyone ships them and the people who murder anyone who dares to not put quotation marks around best friends. When Slice of Life came out, the sub was plastered with "CANON CONFURRMED" circlejerk for at least a weak.

I've seen people claim, that Rarijack is canon and argue endlessly of their validity, all the while changing the definition of the word shipping.

[–]FaceDeer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't speak for everyone else, but I for one find it amusing to go "yay, canon couple!" When we see Lyra and Bon-Bon smooshing their faces together while playing a piano or something. I don't believe they're a canon couple (though I can only assume that the writers are deliberately teasing us at this point, again for amusement). It's just a joke.

The only canon couples that I can think of offhand are Shining/Cadence, Mr./Mrs. Cake, Cranky/Matilda, Rarity's parents, Twilight's parents, and Pinkie's parents. Applejack's parents were probably a couple since they had several foals together and we saw her great-grandparents together in a flashback. The rest is just amusing speculation or fodder for romance that fanfic writers can write without having to care if it's canon.

I read and enjoy plenty of fanfic that isn't remotely canon. Twilight didn't really get caught in a time loop five hours before a second Changeling invasion. Applejack, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash didn't really go on an epic journey through unexplored lands to find a magic flower to cure Twilight of horn rot. And Rainbow Dash didn't really fall in love with Prince Blueblood after getting caught up with him in an adventure to save Equestria from usurpers and discovering that he's really a James Bond-style secret agent in service to the crown. But they were all dang fun things to read about and I'm happy they were written. I wouldn't interpret anything more about what fans believe from that without further evidence.

[–]Evil-DragonTrixie Lulamoon 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Maybe I've got a bit too old for this (I am 33 after all) and I've been left scratching my head over all this 'shipping' stuff. Personally I see the whole shipping thing from the Slice of Life episode to be nothing more than a harmless bit of fun to give a nod out to those that would get the joke of the whole Lyra Bon Bon thing. It's simply just a show and a bit of fun/laugh. I feel like people can sometimes take this show a bit too seriously and need to relax a bit more.

[–]LankygitModerator of /r/mylittlepony 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Probably downvotes galore incoming for me...

I tend to automatically downvote anyone saying something like this. Stop someone acting like some kind of martyr.

In this case, I'm not going to because you are right. (But seriously, predicting downvotes directly increases how many you will receive)

Shippers taking their fantasy pony relationships too seriously caused others to push back against them saying that they don't want to see that kind of stuff. When all is said and done, both sides could do with cooling off.

[–]Evil-DragonTrixie Lulamoon 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Probably too late for an edit from me then oops

[–]PlonqTwilight Sparkle 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I should totally just upvote you and give you Reddit gold out of spite.

[–]Protosega 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You won't.

[–]PlonqTwilight Sparkle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You won't.

You're right.

[–]Patches67 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]bluegreenwookieOctavia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok that is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

[–]Boibi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's so appropriate that it's Haruhi.

[–]kinyutakaPinkie Pie 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wait... You don't hate shipping... You hate people that do shipping...

Isn't that like saying, "I don't hate rap, but all those rappers can go to hell."?

[–]Reginault 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, I find it perfectly acceptable to say "I can appreciate rap music, but the lifestyle that rappers perpetuate is unrealistic, which negatively influences existing social issues."

It's another side of the "love your work but hate your personality" conflict.

[–]SnickyMcNibitsParty Favor[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think "I don't hate League of Legends but I hate Solo Queue" is a better analogy here.

[–]AmorackPrincess Celestia 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sorry, but this is a pointless thread that looks set to do nothing but cause arguments, intentionally or not. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but honestly, I'd kind of prefer if this wasn't the sort of call-out thread on the front page of the subreddit.

[–]Boibi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes sense though. I believe less people like ships than don't. That's not to say they hate them, just that they don't care enough to downvote. This kind of post carries the intent they feel when browsing the sub, so they all upvote it. Voila. Front page post about really nothing in particular, that most people agree with.

[–]LankygitModerator of /r/mylittlepony 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much agree with everything in here. Maybe not all to the same degree, but I would support each point made.

I think the biggest and most important reason in why I don't like shipping is that pretty much all of them make no sense at all. People make jokes about how "bronies will ship anything" and the reason they make those jokes is because it's true. Granted, some ships are obviously supposed to be stupid and nonsensical (Applejack and Bloomberg) but others get taken really seriously while simultaneously being extremely weird if not downright creepy.

All of the incest ships are pretty abhorrent. I know that such relationships can exist in good story telling (Game of Thrones), but all the familial ships within MLP are so stupid and forced that they have no purpose beyond "I want to imagine these siblings romantically in love with one another".

To a lesser extent, all of the "these characters are good friends and would therefore make good lovers" are also shallow and forced. Most people in the world are good friends with dozens of others, but being good friends in no way screams "obvious romantic tension". All of the ships seem so fake and contrived.

Ultimately, all of this put together creates the impression that shippers write their fanfics and make their art purely for the sake of shipping. The forced romantic connection is the beginning, middle, and end of everything they try to create, which doesn't make for anything interesting or exciting. It's utterly one-dimensional.

Some shipping images are cute and some can be funny, but the people who take it so damn seriously sap all the enjoyment out of it by forcing it so hard and getting so angry when anyone challenges their "OTP". It's all nonsense, and as soon as they can come to terms with it then maybe it'll be more fun for everyone else to see.

[–]Reginault 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You may be missing the sarcasm in some of the shipping. There's a reason that Tom x Bloomberg exists, and it's because sometimes it's fun to go to hypothetical extremes with something. It's a lot of "what if" scenarios that you don't have to take seriously if you don't want to.

On the other side of that, a lot of shipping isn't "these two ponies are in a sexual and romantic relationship." Friendshipping is relatively common. Even though the art showing a pair being cute can also be glued on to a romantic ship, that doesn't change the art to romantic shipping.

Either way, you shouldn't be preaching hate against a group just because they like something that you don't.

[–]FabulousJeremy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

TBH Shipping happens in every fandom tho its pretty active in ponies. Though given I can separate the fandom from the show I don't mind it. Shipping can often be cute and have fun results though there's plenty of them that don't make sense and are a walking joke, though I think its a more engaging element of the fandom.

[–]SandtalonOctavia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Re: Shipping is Unrealistic (and other things):

Really, it depends on the execution. Are there stories, etc that are unrealistic? Sure. But there are also some fantastically done stories.

[–]billyfred42Fluttershy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I first got a reddit account because I was here so often. r/mylittlepony is the only sub I visited at all for the first year or so of me using reddit. Back then, it was rare to see one or two ship pics on the front page a day; sometimes, there were none at all. I don't ship ponies myself, and I have no problem with people doing it. But seeing so much of it, especially when I don't really care for it, has driven me away somewhat. I never really check the sub anymore, I just see the posts on my front page diving. It's gotten to the point that I want to downvote ship posts so that I can see other content again.

[–]Rubes2525Fluttershy 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

I do say that shipping is running rampant in the community, but I just don't let it bother me. To be honest, Equestria Girls with their heads-on-sticks style artwork bother me more. People used to make fairly decent human renditions before the first movie came out.

[–]chicostickDerpy Hooves 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

heads-on-sticks style artwork

You could also make the argument that none of the ponies in Equestria look like proportionally correct miniature horses. It's just a (really really good) cartoon.

[–]Rubes2525Fluttershy 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

But the pony forms actually look aesthetically pleasing and were an improvement over previous generations by actually not being realistic. I never said I prefer realism, but the style of Equestria Girls is pretty much a copy of stuff like Bratz, Barbie, Monster High and other stuff most bronies will not even touch. Gotta keep the "acceptable" image of skinny stick figure girls, right? Add to that the weird skin colors that should have not been directly copied from fur colors.

[–]chicostickDerpy Hooves 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Though all opinions are subjective, they are all also valid. As far as "acceptable skinny stick figure" goes? Nah. Tons of cartoons are such gross caricatures of their intent (Hey Arnold, Adventure Time, Steven Universe) that it isn't even worth arguing about.

Besides, love and friendship over all 💖

P. S. -- don't even get me started on the story line. I just pretend deep down it was a side project they did to keep from getting rusty. Started at 4 pm on a Friday. While hung over. But that's just my opinion 😊

[–]Boibi 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They didn't make the movies for bronies. They made them for the little girls who probably do like Barbie and Monster High.

Though I don't really like the art either.

To tack onto the Hey Arnold bit, many of those characters are grossly out of proportion. Cartoons generally are. They actually have to be to show any emotion on the faces of the characters.

[–]Rubes2525Fluttershy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But Hey Arnold isn't as grossly as EQG. Ok, even so, at least Hey Arnold has some variety in the character shapes. The adults look more or less alright proportion wise, and the kids had different shapes and sizes that make them each unique. EQG is just nothing but doll characters for the most part. There is an uncanny feeling to them.

[–]mediumdeviationTwilight Sparkle[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Erm. No. The first reactions to the leaked Equestria Girls designs was complete disbelief, because nobody could believe how bad those designs are. The designs are not bad because they're not realistic. The designs are bad because they're just really bad

[–]chicostickDerpy Hooves 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, I kinda like 'em. But I also like most cartoons. Who cares if Finn looks like a slowly deflating balloon? So what if Mordecai isn't shaped like a real bird? It's just someone's concept come to life. Don't like it? Don't watch it. (And cuddle up for a MLPFiM marathon on Netflix)

[–]mediumdeviationTwilight Sparkle[🍰] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Again, you're conflating poor design with unrealistic design. The problem is the uncanny valley - it's fine for characters to be fully unrealistic, or fully realistic, but doll-like falls right smack in the middle, and that elicits an instinctive creepiness response from people. Then there's the skin color, which makes Rarity look like a vampire and Fluttershy look like she has jaundice, and having them wear the exact same clothes, even though Rainbow Dash would rather be seen dead than strutting around school in a skirt.

For actually good female human designs on either end of the spectrum, see Princess Bubblegum on the unrealistic side, and Wendy Corduroy and Star Butterfly on the other.

[–]chicostickDerpy Hooves 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jaundice was the first thing I thought when I saw Fluttershy too :(

I don't think they look doll-like, personally. They are more child-like, if anything (large heads, large eyes, small nose, no signs of physical maturity/puberty). But we all have our opinions. And that's ok. If we all thought alike we'd all have = cutie marks 😬

[–]HclegendPinkie Pie 7ポイント8ポイント  (14子コメント)

I respect your opinion, but I do think that you was a little biased. Maybe it's because I'm a shipper who happens to be (Mostly) sane and can rationalize and respect others opinions (Point 2).

That and you complain about shipping being shallow, but earlier you said it takes all of the character development away. Which do you want? It not taking all of the development or it being deeper? Not everyone is the next Tolken.

Not that being related and being a couple are mutually exclusive, mind you. Shipping will find a way.

Give me one example that isn't ApplePie and I might believe you on that.* This comment is a little bit scatterbrained because I can't just say "Well that's the minority." since that's a cop out argument. (Although it may be true in this case.)

*That ISN'T the sisters from Canterlot Boutique. Keep in mind that they look nothing alike and we had no idea they were sisters until Word of God happened.

[–]ProfessorPenucci 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

You're kidding, right? There's tons of sibling shipping. Royal Sisters, Twilight and Shining Armor, Big Mac and either of his two sisters (and probably Granny Smith), Flim and Flam, Rainbow Dash and her dad, Rumble and Thunderlane, Diamond Tiara and Filthy Rich, Rarity and Sweetie Belle and their family, the Cake family, the Pie family... When someone says 'every possible ship exists' that's not an exaggeration and incest shipping even seems to be somewhat popular.

[–]Rychu_SupadudeRarity 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I read a Big Mac/Granny Smith story once... Didn't sleep very well that night.

[–]SparroewModerator of /r/mylittlepony 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]Rubes2525Fluttershy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would you? I just nope on out of there whenever I see it.

[–]Phearlock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, what did you expect when you started reading it?

[–]FaceDeer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny, one of the most screwed-up shipping fanfics I can recall reading (that was intended seriously and not as a crazy crack fic) was a Cadence/Shining Armor fic. The one pair of main characters who are actually officially married to each other. The fic was all about the psychological fallout that both Shining and Cadence suffered from after the Changeling invasion and how they overcame it, and I thought it was both really well done and really disturbing (though it ended happily, yay!).

[–]HclegendPinkie Pie 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

And with that my faith in humanity is down the shitter.

[–]HimntorSunset Shimmer 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not even sure 'humanity' is a thing anymore.

[–]HclegendPinkie Pie 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ponynamity?

[–]jmartkdrPrincess Cadence 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Equinity

[–]HimntorSunset Shimmer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's too hard to pronounce.

[–]shvndrgnApplejack 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd have to imagine 90%+ of that is clopfic, which draws in an element of people into more extreme fetishism. It's not too surprising that a subset of those people are into incest.

[–]HimntorSunset Shimmer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What have these darn ponies done to people's brains?

[–]HimntorSunset Shimmer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Talking about shipping

Saying not everyone is the next Tolkien

Does not compute.

[–]kidkolumbo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all a joke to me.

[–]Boibi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shippers are a vocal minority. I don't ship ponies. And I don't go around telling everyone that I don't ship. That's why it sounds like everyone is shipping. The people on the pro-shipping side are more vocal about it.

[–]MissGoldenDragonTrouble Shoes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I applaud you, sir!

I agree wholeheartedly. The shippers have gotten seriously out of hand.

I never had the guts to say anything about it... so, thank you for speaking up, even though it doesn't seem to have been well received.

[–]Azshios 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think there's a case to be made that there are some people who are too aggressive about their shipping, and that it should be kept out of this particular community.

I might have upvoted that post. I'd also note that it seems to me like an appropriate use of the downvote, and if shipping stuff gets upvoted, it probably belongs here.

As I read it, though, the case you made was why you hate people because they like something bad. I don't think I can ever be okay with that. Your "I don't have a problem with the concept of shipping, I just hate shippers" explanation is not a good argument, to me.

I think with a few more clarifications and caveats, I'd agree with many of the points you made, but I don't see it as a problem in the way you do. Some people are very rude and hostile if you ship, say, Lyra and Octavia, because you have violated their OTPs. I don't hate shippers, I just don't like that behavior out of that subset of shippers. They really need to calm down. Many shipping fan works are not very deep. It doesn't upset me, and I'm confused why it would upset anyone. Just move on with your day and engage with the content you like.

I appreciate the effort you put into clarifying your opinions for us, but I still disagree with the post as a whole. If you don't like it, avoid it. If you don't want it here, downvote it.

[–]VahrasApplejack 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post really wasn't necessary at all. What is this meant to do, other than bash or point fingers at those that do enjoy these types of shipping?

As for it being all-consuming, just... why? If someone chooses to shift the focus of their blog, why can't you just stop following them? Why is their choice the wrong one? Because you don't like it? They obviously wanted to shift focus and enjoy it.

This thread has become nothing but opinions where none were needed. It reminds me heavily of discussions between fans of MLP vs non-fans. Either you're going to enjoy it, or you're not. No need to call either side out.

Both side will always have a vocal minority. As much as everything else in existence.

[–]TheKnackermanSugar Belle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Full marks. Completely agree.

[–]uffefl 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need to lighten up, dude...

[–]AsteriskCGY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They also make a game that takes up an unnecessary amount of tablespace.

[–]WobbleTheHuttSunset Shimmer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I need to build an up vote cannon!

[–]2ndPonyAcc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So why make this post at all, dude? There's no point.

[–]DragonbornBronyNightmare Moon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All true. Shipping is normally taken to far. Sometimes WAYYYY to far if you know what i mean.

[–]Christian_He 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? There is shipping in this fandom? All I see is friendship!

[–]HeWho_MustNotBeNamed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Number 2 is the most poignant point for me. Everyone gets shipped with everyone else, whether the couple displays any chemistry on-screen that could remotely develop into romance or not.

I'll let the shippers ship, but I agree it gets annoying often. The example with the sisters in the last episode is one of the worse examples.

[–]HunterTAMUC -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not really an entirely-shipping person but I do have some ships of my own xD