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[–]Dude-Lebowski 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ask him what wallet he prefers.

[–]pietrod21 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

"admit"--->"say"

[–]kynek99 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

confesses

[–]its_bitney_bitch 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pleads guilty

[–]Symphonic_Rainboom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sberbank (biggest russian bank) CEO German Gref pleads guilty to owning bitcoins

Thanks, our work here is done.

[–]5tu 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

If any bank director responsible for guiding the future hasn't spent a few hours purchased some to try, as a share holder I'd be asking questions on if they're capable of leading a business through a rapidly changing fintech world.

Bitcoin has the potential to change banking and it's not going away, if bitcoin doesn't do it for some yet discovered reason an even better successor certainly will.

[–]Bitcohen 28ポイント29ポイント  (6子コメント)

this implies that he launders money into terrorism

[–]JadawinUK 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

For Americans, everything implies terrorism, just not what they themselves do.

[–]m-m-m-m[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

today, we are all terrorists.

[–]bitdoggy 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

How much is small for him - 1000 btc, 10000?

[–]m-m-m-m[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

place 5 of top 5 best paid CEOs in Russia, his salary for 2012 was $15M according to russian wiki entry

[–]PotatoBadger 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

place 5 of top 5

i.e. "5th"

[–]m-m-m-m[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes i just merely translated what's written there on his wealth. he's far from being a poor guy.

[–]n0mdep 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

His dirty little secret.

(Meanwhile everyone else keeps quiet.)

[–]muyuu 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

"I am one of the victims, I have a small amount of bitcoins," he said, noting that in recent years this cryptocurrency has seriously devalued. "Only one currency in the world has devalued more that the ruble — bitcoin," he joked.

Sorry for your double whammy loss.

[–]zombiecoiner 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well the cheap price fetched by our oil exports has hit the Bitcoin country hard and a greatly underemployed labor force requiring payouts from the Bitcoin treasury hasn't helped either. Just kidding. #fiatworldproblems

[–]lucasjkr 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

why don't you think those problems wouldn't occur in a bitcoin denominated world?

[–]mustyoshi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Bitcoin will stop the drought, triple our crop yield, and cure cancer, don't ya know?

[–]fone-btc 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Devalued compared to 2010? Really? When speculating, never buy at the top. Did he buy BTC with customer deposits?

[–]mustyoshi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

never buy at the top

Every new high is a top until it's not.

[–]muyuu -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Devalued compared to 2010? Really? When speculating, never buy at the top. Did he buy BTC with customer deposits?

Where did he mention 2010? He says he's down big time in his rubles and his bitcoins so maybe not 2010?

[–]Qewbicle 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look closer at the statement.

[–]muyuu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Erm. Can you spare me the riddles?

[–]Qewbicle -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's amazing how many people can't read a comment within context. Hey dude. I understand everything you just stated. For the laymen.

compared to 2010

Saying, hey look back a little further to 2010 and see if you still call it devalued.

never buy at the top.

In essence stating that if you say it has devalued at this point you likely bought at the top. This also reiterates point one.

Did he buy BTC with customer deposits?

Rubbing in the ignorance that this CEO dude has, kind of left field but not totally, if CEO dude can't look at the whole when it's in front of his face, then he likely makes other mistakes and could potentially be a risk.

My note:
This ignorant risk applies to those that are incapable of seeing the answer in front of them, blindly passing judgement.
You probably blame the other kids parents when your kid messes up. Maybe you should have taught them to think, if you got the skills.

[–]Dumbhandle 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is a lot of hatred for banks in here. They are partially old technology that breeds some corruption. But they provide a valuable service to established businesses by lending cheap money for fueling growth, weathering downturns in the economic cycles and seasons. Banks are not going away if crypto supplants fiat, because loan officers lend money, overwhelmingly wisely in the US. Sure there are bad sectors, deals, etc., but that is not the majority.

[–]magrathea1 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

overwhelmingly wisely in the US

LOL

[–]paperraincoat 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

...overwhelmingly wisely in the US.

Cost of financial crisis, $12.8 trillion. And that's just the most recent one.

[–]StoryBit -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

These numbers mean nothing ..., it's like saying the cost of building a Death Star is $8.1 quadrillion.

[–]eragmus 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe some elaboration is in order, then? :)

Abstract:

The 2007-09 financial crisis was associated with a huge loss of economic output and financial wealth, psychological consequences and skill atrophy from extended unemployment, an increase in government intervention, and other significant costs. Assuming the financial crisis is to blame for these associated ills, an estimate of its cost is needed to weigh against the cost of policies intended to prevent similar episodes. We conservatively estimate that 40 to 90 percent of one year's output ($6 trillion to $14 trillion, the equivalent of $50,000 to $120,000 for every U.S. household) was foregone due to the 2007-09 recession. We also provide several alternative measures of lost consumption, national trauma, and other negative consequences of the worst recession since the 1930s. This more comprehensive evaluation of factors suggests that what the U.S. gave up as a result of the crisis is likely greater than the value of one year's output [$15 trillion].

Excerpts:

Better Markets Inc. (2011) estimated the cost of the crisis at $12.8 trillion, counting the output that was lost and the output that would have been lost if not for extraordinary fiscal and monetary interventions. However, we do not consider avoided output loss a cost of the crisis because this ìlossîwas not actually realized. Given how we define the costs of the crisis, the benefits of the extraordinary policy response are already factored into the output loss calculation.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO 2013) reviewed the literature on the cost of previous financial crises and determined that the costs associated with the most recent recession should likely fall within the range of a few trillion dollars to more than $10 trillion. Although the costs of past crises guide our estimates, we are primarily concerned with the cost of this specific crisis. We believe that the five years of data since the beginning of the recession, and a forecast of the return to trend, provide enough information to form a more accurate estimate than an average of past crises that have diverse, situation-specific factors at play.

Boyd and Heitz (2012) find $7.3 trillion to be the lowest conceivable crisis cost estimate using similar methodology to this study. We employ slightly different assumptions about the counterfactual path of GDP and its forecast past 2012 and put less emphasis on arriving at a lower bound, remaining careful not to overstate the costs.

https://dallasfed.org/assets/documents/research/staff/staff1301.pdf

[–]StoryBit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, it's informative.

[–]jmw74 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care if banks still exist, I just want them to stop holding people's money.

[–]bitsteiner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If he only took advice from Prof Bitcorn.

[–]holytransaction 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not bad not bad.

[–]vsviridov 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dat title...

German Gref, CEO of Sberbank (biggest russian bank), admits to having bitcoins.

FTFY

[–]Disabled_gentleman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Only one currency in the world has devalued more that the ruble — bitcoin," he joked.

Haha what a class act, funny guy. The Russians are our friends, the bitruble would be awesome for bitcoin.

[–]amossleep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes i heard about it

[–]ErinPatrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But also that he was "one of the victims".. speak for yourself dude. If Bitcoin fails then ya some people will lose money. Jury's still out though. Guess he shouldn't have invested more than he was willing to lose.

[–]crbncll -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not surprising - bitcoins are cheap nowadays and the potential profit is great. The same is true for a lottery ticket, but I think the chance to make profit with bitcoins is many times bigger than winning a lottery. Good luck, everyone!

[–]Dumbhandle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banks are going to have to ride the wave. Sounds like he will be prepared.