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[–]_melt 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

If someone from HTC wants to be involved with the sub, that's fine. There is no reason they should or would need to be a moderator. Reddit is not for advertising and promotion, it's for sharing and discussing. I don't understand the hate train going on against the sub creator.

[–]interestingsex 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like the sub creator wasn't responsive to the mods for a week or so when they were discussing involvement of HTC reps

"he (/r/Vive creator) vanished, for almost a week. Wouldn't respond to a single message as we all explained thoroughly why we want to try this relationship out."

When they decided to add the HTC rep on their own as a low level mod "the whole /r/Vive moderator team was wiped out. We've all been deleted, and two randoms were added in our place. A goomba from Mario was added to the banner, along with this new message meant to taunt us/HTC: http://i.imgur.com/tK5CW6k.png"

So I think the hate train has to do with how everything was handled... Had the sub creator responded during the week and said that he/she was firmly against it then those mod members might have left on their own. Had he/she responded to them adding the HTC rep by initiating a new conversation explaining why he/she was absent and the re-asserting that he/she was not interested in having a company rep be involved... that too might have been received better.

TLDR: the mass ban of mods and taunting is stoking the hate train. Source of other side: https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3lb6l8/avoid_rvive/

[–]_melt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does seem a little heavy handed, but if there were actually bribes involved then definitely necessary.

[–]jaxpunk 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Internet is serious business.

[–]oD323[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Super serial! It just upset me enough to call them out on it. I haven't slept.

[–]ilikadapie 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/HTC_Vive is now open for your submissions

[–]MamaiaPool 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

okay. moving on...

[–]interestingsex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's important to hear/read both sides. The /r/Vive mod made some great points about how he/she wants the forum to be run here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/3lbbkb/what_does_that_mean/cv4sreb

On the flip side, the ousted mods express frustration with how the situation was handled here: https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3lb6l8/avoid_rvive/

It seems like both sides made some questionable decisions that understandably caused upset feelings... to which, more questionable decisions and retaliations were made. Just wanted to say I appreciate all of the work that EVERYONE has done with this sub (including the visitors, this community is a shared experience), I have enjoyed visiting and know it's not easy work to make posts and moderate. I realize it's a slippery slope but I think it's okay to get some special attention or perks for doing a job like this as long as they are transparent about it and do not let it influence how members are treated or censored.

As a Valve/HTC Vive enthusiast I hope we can still get some AMA content going, have a direct line to reps at the company and create a singular healthy channel (much like /r/Oculus) where people can check in to stay up to date. The landscape feels a bit fragmented now... I actually get much of my Vive news through /r/Oculus and I'm happy that it's mostly welcomed there. I'm not sure I have a solution but welcome input...

What if /u/500500 offered flair or a tag to /u/JPHTC (a rep from Vive) or made his account "official" in some way that did not involve being a mod. /u/JPHTC/ already said "we would have been happy with that option had it been presented as an alternative" why does this have to be "too late" we can still go this route if he/she would accept it. Could we also consider bringing back some of those original mods, apologize to them and re-focus on the Vive? Maybe if everyone apologized to each other it would help to refocus on the shared interest in VR and this product. I've had emotional and upset moments myself but it's only too late to repair a relationship or adjust paths when you decide not to try or that your feelings are more important than the community and the topic. Can we "repair" /r/Vive for the sake of the community and members like myself who have enjoyed it so much? I have nothing against the other HTC Vive related Reddit subs but this one seemed to be the most active and there is momentum here (likely why HTC reached out) so for the benefit of those who are subbed, who bookmarked it and who already have content that they created and shared here... let's think about some solutions :D