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[–]muchcharles 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 2時間前 (30子コメント)
Did HTC offer to pay you for the mod spot?
[+]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 2時間前* (29子コメント)
Absolutely not
Yay, it looks like he posted the mod log to take something out of context and get a downvote brigade on me. Choo-choo!
[–]catchavirus 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Of course not. Just some "Great Vive perks" right?
[–]muchcharles 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 1時間前* (0子コメント)
Holy shit, disgusting if real.
[–]muchcharles 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1時間前* (2子コメント)
How do you respond to this, alleging they offered your perks (t-shirts? free Vives?)?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3lb6l8/avoid_rvive/cv4tavu
And the mod mail dump? https://i.imgur.com/qHcwAfc.jpg
[–]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 12分前 (1子コメント)
I respond by saying we just naturally assumed he was talking about the "perks" of the partnership being said graphics and communication. Anyone suggesting otherwise clearly already has decided on a more dramatic story.
[–]muchcharles 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10分前* (0子コメント)
Unless they just read the text of the bribe, where graphics, communication is offered, and then there is a specifically called out separate offer for "perks for the pre existing mod team."
[–]muchcharles 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 2時間前* (19子コメント)
What does he mean by bribed? The FTC could have a huge problem with this if they paid or gave gifts and it wasn't disclosed, judging by their stance in recent undisclosed payments to YouTube vloggers and product placement on mommy blogs by diaper companies etc. You could be personally held liable as well if you took perks, though by changing the banner to a corporate one with trademarks you might have sidestepped the liability. Maybe that was why they offered up the banner first.
[+]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 2時間前 (18子コメント)
Not entirely sure. We wanted to add him solely because it would be beneficial for the community in the long run and would make communication easier for us.
[–]Kuratagi 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 2時間前 (12子コメント)
What will happen to the posts that shows the competitor as better options when a HTC employee is admin of the sub?
[–]TheFlyingBastard 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
This was one of the things I was thinking too, but I didn't see as much of a problem as moderator rights can easily be revoked. This was just for the sake of communication.
[+]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 2時間前 (10子コメント)
Absolutely nothing - I'm a fan of all HMDs and there wouldn't have been any bias in moderation. Part of the plan was already to allow discussion on all headsets, much like /r/oculus
[–]linknewtab 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Part of the plan was already to allow discussion on all headsets, much like /r/oculus
Not so sure about this one. Why would we need several general VR subs? I would actually prefer r/oculus to become more Oculus focused once the Vive is out and the Vive sub gets more populated.
General VR discussions could then move to /r/virtualreality
[–]-null 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Sounds great in theory, but /r/virtualreality is fairly heavily biased against Oculus as far as I can tell. It would be great if we could have a single VR sub though instead of everything being split into different subs.
[–]Kuratagi 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 2時間前 (7子コメント)
You, maybe, don't work for HTC. It's not the other admin case. Sincerely what it seems is that HTC want to take control of the community of /r/Vive for his "official" announcement channel. In the beginning will be subtle, don't hope it'll continue like that.
[–]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間前 (6子コメント)
That's unfounded, though. Hard to take control with an account that essentially only has access to modmail for communication. They wouldn't poison a relationship with their small group of passionate supporters so early in the game.
[–]muchcharles 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前* (5子コメント)
What do you mean by essentially? I thought there were only two levels of mod permissions on Reddit, and both levels could manage ban lists etc.
[–]diggexpat 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Well, take it to it's logical conclusion. HTC bans someone, that person complains, and the rest of the team sees it, and the jig is up. It's not like they can slyly slink around in the background adjusting the message as they see fit. People would revolt instantly and HTC would be removed just as fast.
[–]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間前* (1子コメント)
https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/18wmu5/new_feature_moderator_permissions/
I interpreted the "access" part to mean ban lists.
[–]Kuratagi 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Do you understand that this is the answer anyone will give if they pretended to take control over any matter? This is good for you, trust me! I think that a open discussion presenting pros over cons is necessary first. Your position maybe is emotional.
[–]muchcharles 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前* (3子コメント)
How would it make communication any easier? When you say it gave them limited powers what do you mean? Did it allow them to delete posts, and potentially criticism?
[–]RIFT-VRZENITH 01 Developer[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
We were previously emailing our contact and some people were getting missed or not CC'd, and our admin also wanted us to keep sub discussion to modmail
[–]Xyyz 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
It's 2015, you couldn't find a better way to have a group discussion over the Internet than forming a moderator team together?
[–]muchcharles 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 2時間前* (0子コメント)
That is really sketchy to give the corporation censorship powers in exchange for that. You know they can message the moderators at any time as a group without resorting to email by prepending a hash tag to the subreddit name (i.e. #vive)? It was added in 2010:
http://www.redditblog.com/2010/02/moderator-messaging.html
[–]Xyyz 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
How come nobody on the moderator team said he could join the team but you couldn't accept any perks?
[+]CsmicPerspective スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Literally the only thing I saw in the mail dump was an offer to help design the banner. Christ, if that was it and I'm not missing something that's a huge stretch to call that a "perk". Give credit in description to who designed the banners, and you're done.
What perks or bribes is the admin talking about because I see nothing.
[–]muchcharles 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1時間前* (1子コメント)
Based on the messages, the banner was separate and was offered up as a token of good will before any mod permissions were given. They then mentioned additional perks in exchange for being made mods.
[–]CsmicPerspective 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分前 (0子コメント)
Yup you're right, and I was linked to where it was discussed.
Makes a lot more sense. Could have been handled with a bit more maturity, but the admin did the right thing then in terms of spirit anyways.
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