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[–]iamapizza 33ポイント34ポイント  (19子コメント)

What's Africa up to?

[–]TuskenCam 91ポイント92ポイント  (4子コメント)

Counting apparently

[–]laschke 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah they have 1000 more already

[–]Sack_Of_Motors 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know if you heard me counting; I did over a thousand.

[–]dick-nipples 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Africa, you have a massive erection...

[–]Mutt1223 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Proxy wars, malnutrition, and exploitation?

[–]DoubleDot7 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

North Africa and southern Spain would have fallen under the "doing science" part 1000 years ago.

Now they're respectively too busy with religion and doing siestas.

[–]Once_Upon_Time 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Being white.

[–]peekadeek 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hunting their animals to extinction.

[–]Knight-in-Gale 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

by way of tooth extraction.

[–]FetchFrosh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently freezing to death and possibly being ruled by the White Walkers. Hard to say for sure though.

[–]terpin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit at least they're on the map, Asia is suspiciously absent. And doing nothing this entire time, apparently.

[–]toeofcamell 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Getting that Michael Jackson treatment

[–]waamgee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jelqing

[–]mingve 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aids?

[–]toontamer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like they're being a giant bomb to me.

[–]HaikuberryFin 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Though all this time's passed,

Ukraine has retained it's reign

over the region.

[–]polannex 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep Ex / South of France Montpellier University founded before 1137 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Montpellier

Was just there this afternoon for a coffee http://www.ot-montpellier.fr/_objets/tourinsoft/pcu/photos/La-Faculte-de-Medecine---OTM--4-.jpg

[–]hostViz0r 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The elitist version was built two hundred years later.

[–]Blitzsturm 37ポイント38ポイント  (43子コメント)

Reminds me how fast an advanced society can fall when fundamentalist religion gains a foothold. A lot of people in the US find science offensive to their twisted interpretation of their religion and want to stop it. I fear for our future.

[–]midnightrambler108 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm actually optimistic. Non-religious has grown from 16-23% from 2007-2014 in the United States. Up here in Canada we are pushing 40%.

I'm not saying that by having no religion a place is ultimately better. However, if people are apathetic towards it, its generally better for life expectancy.

[–]jgonzosan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm optimistic about it as well. Yes we have plenty of crazy religious people here in the US but I think it's slowly going away. Less and less younger people here and around the world are interested in religion. I'd like to see a day when religion isn't something that stands in the way of progress.

[–]lawerorder 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm saying having no religion in place is ultimately better.

[–]Yost_my_toast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, the US is 1/5 non-religious and its only getting less religious with every new generation.

[–]Dengar96 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

So the earth isn't 2015 years old?

[–]petrichorE6 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Don't even joke about it.

[–]Advorange 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah, we don't need to joke. It's a fact that it's only 2015 years old. /s

[–]java-update 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you stupid? Everyone knows it's 8015.

[–]Northumberlo -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

How long is a year in heaven. Silly christians thinking years on earth are what was counted.

[–]Dengar96 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm only 2 and a half in heaven years

[–]KidK0dy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

But on the other hand you have people like newton who was arguably the greatest scientist to ever live and he was a christian.

[–]redmandoto 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And he also believed in Alchemy and spent a great deal of time searching for transmutation of metals into gold. People are a product of their time. Lincoln, for all he did, believed sincerely that black people were inherently inferior to whites. The great Greek philosophers lived in a society in which slavery was the norm, and they fully accepted it.

[–]toeofcamell 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

As a Christian scientist I take offense I think

[–]Northumberlo -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hope that means you believe in evolution AND god, and not one or the other. I've always argued that anything science proves that is wrong with our understanding, means we've understood it wrong.

Adam and Eve? First microbial lifeforms.

Eve was made from the ribs of adam? Cellular division

Forbidden fruit? Eating other life forms.

Universe was made in 7 days? How long is a day in heaven?

Bible is the word of god? It was written by people who are stupid, corrupt, and misunderstand teachings.

God is love, understanding and forgiveness? Then love, understand, and forgive each other.

10 commandments? Then stop using an ancient book (that was rewritten and re-translated over and over again for thousands of years) to enforce your own rules onto other people.

[–]vostok412 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you a scientist with Christian faith or hold the Christian Science philosophy? Because those don't mingle and will each find the above comment offensive in different ways.

[–]benkauf711 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Atleast we'll be dead! Am I right!??

[–]sexyjohnjohnson 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can't answer; too busy dying.

[–]toeofcamell 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On Easter Sunday my pastor stood up and said, "Arise, awake...death awaits you!" I was scared and confused. Why would a pastor say that to an entire church full of people?

[–]Nightgloom 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes it's scary. In the past, that happened all the time. Science, industrialization and power has been erased and left for the history books multiple times throughout our planet's lifetime. We live in a more modern time, but that does not make us immune to the same societal shifts that impacted lands thousands of years ago.

[–]EarlGreyOrDeath 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Unfortunately, you either adapt or die. Our next challenge will be surviving automation, if we can do that, we have another hundred years to plan for the next shift.

[–]Nightgloom 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

True. We have to figure out how to make our planet sustainable though. We are using so many resources. Oil may be our main concern now, but one day fresh water will be a problem too.

[–]rbt321 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have near zero concerns about water.

Take the sewer pipe, run through treatment magic (available but costly today), and plug it directly into the watermain. Alberta gets damn close to this today though they run it through a river for a bit between the towns/cities.

Farming isn't any trickier if you replace open fields with controlled greenhouses. Again, cost is the preventing factor but no-crop is worse than expensive crop, so we'll pick the expensive crop. Considering food is around 10% of the price it was 100 years ago, I don't think doubling today's food prices would be catastrophic; real-estate values would fall though (more to food means less for mortgage, new buyers would account for that and prices would drop).

As a bonus, front yards become far more interesting when that short bland green mat dies off and people xeriscape; I don't know why people put so much effort into maintaining a dogs bathroom.

[–]corby315 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The US was one of the fastest growing superpowers ever. Religion has always been apart of it.

I think what you are noticing more is the world catching up while the US coasted.

[–]I_Key_Cars 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Flintstones isn't a documentary?

[–]FBAguy13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya I think they key here is the type of religion. Religion is such a broad term we can't really use it to make broad statements. Religion has done some of the best and some of the worst things in history. And I would argue that the good outweighs the bad.

[–]YoureASoldierBodie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except that in 1015 it was Islam that was the primary driver in all the learning that was going on in the Arab/Eastern world.

[–]MouthJob -5ポイント-4ポイント  (7子コメント)

And a lot of people in the US find religion offensive to their interpretation of science and want it to stop.

There are crazies on both sides of the fence.

[–]TheOtherHammer 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

just want to point out that you used the phrase "interpretation of science" there, guy.

[–]toeofcamell 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you remember taking intro to interpretation of science in college?

[–]oragoner 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

When Africa was an icecap.

[–]DoubleDot7 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, Slartibartfast!

[–]Khab00m 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hegemony is what produces science. Religion gave the middle east that hegemony at a certain point, which led to science. Colonialism is what led to Europe's hegemony, and thus science.

[–]Mongobly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And in Africa time just passes.

[–]toeofcamell 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still come the same distance but I'm practicing every day

[–]psyxer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

+1 for Ukraine

[–]flowerturtle 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Turkey was ruled by the Byzantines in 1015.

[–]defaultsuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asia Minor or Anatolia. It only became Turkey when it was conquered by Turks.

[–]AngryScientist -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ctrl+f Byzantine

And there it is.

[–]mrshatnertoyou 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The US has a similar map except the colors are red and blue.

[–]babygotsap 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure, if you ignore the starting of universities and translation of scientific text from history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages

[–]shaundx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting that the Eastern Roman Empire was down with science in 1015

[–]FINALAVENUE 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And Africa just kept counting

[–]area_fifty-one 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Halfway there.

[–]Knight-in-Gale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Caspian Sea is all kinds of confused right now.

I would hate to live right on that line

[–]nuklep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spain bought the industrial revolution with all the gold it had. I see the same fate for the middle east

[–]zeusdescartes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For the loser now, Will be later to win, For the times they are a-changin'.

[–]DonTino 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

North Afrika is more 1932

[–]JuntaEx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meanwhile Africa is busy displaying what year it is

[–]Neltech 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like how the address of Africa changed.

[–]LoLofDragons 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

2015 and Sweden is back being too busy with religion again..

[–]YoureASoldierBodie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You should include Spain in there. It was probably the most advanced society at the time the rest of Europe was going through the so called dark ages.

[–]Knux848 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd put Mesopotamia and the Middle East above Spain, I think. At least before the Mongols sacked Baghdad.

[–]scrumpylungs -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the day comes that it's 100% blue, the world will be a ridiculously awesome place.

[–]Vrilmachine -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its all because of books. Books hate freedom. Books needs to be stopped

[–]RurackMI -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So history lesson here. Yes the map is accurate but things need to be put in context. Around 1015 the Arab and Muslim world celebrated Science. Then two things happen around the same time the Christian Crusades and the Mongol (Turk) invasion by Genghis Kan. The Mongol conquests killed between 30-70 Million people

The estimated World population in 1200 before Khan started his conquests was 450 Million people. Than man and his decendents were responsible for killing 10% or more of the world population. But the deaths were focused on the Middle East and China.

I cannot find the actual number of people living in these areas before him so I am guessing, but how well do you think the US would survive if 35% of the population died over the next ten years. How would we recover if our New York, D.C, Boston, San Fran, and L.A were razed to the ground? If our centers for learning were put to the torch?

Historians are arguing that many areas are still trying to recover from the areas that were destroyed.

And lets not even talk about the death toll Europeans gave to the world in their quest of enlightenment.

But hey this does not fit into the mindset that the Arab world is crazy so...

:Disclaimer I am not a historian.

[–]harmonometer -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

More and more it seems that little saying is universal timeless truth:

History repeats itself.