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KhalBeorn が 17時間前 * 投稿
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[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 15時間前 (96子コメント)
Stoners are always trying to justify their drug habit. It really pisses me off when they hide behind religion to do it, particularly mine. Seriously, fuck off.
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 15時間前 (95子コメント)
Whoa, I made it very clear that my faith and my "drug habit" are separate parts of my life, and was looking to see what kind of reception I would receive from others in regards to something that has been demonized for far too long. Not very unlike asatru or any other non-Christian faith in this country. I get a strong sense you're associating an herb used for medicine across the country to heroin or meth. I know you're the grumpy one but it seems you're uneducated when it comes to cannabis and it's general user
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
Opinion from another stoner: Don't care about to what he's saying. He may have his thoughts about it, but neither him nor anyone here can say what you can do or what you can't. You can honor the Gods the way you like and it's something between you and them. If they will accept your offerings or not, it is not up to us to say. It's aaall between you and them.
I don't use cannabis on the rituals because my kindred is against it and, as long as I am not breaking any rules or annoying anyone, I will continue to do what I want.
[–]FusRoDuuhNot Cool Enough for Funny Flair 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 15時間前 (14子コメント)
Ok, but you were looking to see how well the reception is of this. Would you prefer he change his opinion so you can be coddled or are you truly trying to find how your practices fit in the heathen mind set?
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前 (8子コメント)
He definitely gave a very strong reaction, and in that sense I have no qualms. I do not care for him saying in any way or shape that I'm using my faith as an excuse to do hard drugs. If he thinks I'm doing the equivalent of shooting black tar heroin in my veins, that backwards view is also fine, what is not fine is right out of the gate accusing me of saying I'm into asatru and heathenry simply to justify my substance use.
[–]MediumSizedDipper 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 14時間前 (2子コメント)
His reaction was probably due to the fact that you explicitly state that you "openly practice/read/commune while under the influence of ganja", and imply that the usage of your drug of choice is key to the way that you practice your faith. Tying marijuana and heathenry together in this way does seem as if you're trying to continue your drug usage under the guise of it being a part of your heathen faith, which as far as I know has no historical precedent.
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 14時間前 (1子コメント)
I can see that, but I also stated in a lower comment that I make sure they don't feed each other so to speak. I'll smoke, go for a hike and sit down and decide to crack my copy of elves wights and trolls, these two things overlap in my life. I don't smoke to get high so I can then practice, they just some times happen together
[–]MediumSizedDipper 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
Your initial post didn't make that clear, and unfortunately some of us have had experiences with people trying to use our faith as a 'shield' against those who would condemn them for their drug usage. As you can tell from aleglad's reaction, it is not appreciated. I'll stand by my statement that the ultimate decision is in the hands of whoever is hosting the event you will be at, or the kindred you are wanting to join.
[–]metalheadeBeach Heathen 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (3子コメント)
I'll just tell you that's how he reacts every time. I wouldn't take it too personally.
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm not, especially after enjoying his podcast
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 14時間前 (1子コメント)
And it's the welcome every permission seeking junkie is going to get every single time. I will make good and damn sure they do not feel welcome here.
[–]metalheadeBeach Heathen 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
Lol
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
Permission seeking junkies have no place in Heathenry. Go ruin something else.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 15時間前 (4子コメント)
He wants permission, just like every other fucking junkie who's asked this same stupid question. Fuck him.
[–]metalheadeBeach Heathen 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 14時間前 (3子コメント)
He wants permission? From who? You, and "your" religion?
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 14時間前 (2子コメント)
It is classic permission seeking behavior. Fuck him. Permission seeking junkies need to kill themselves instead of trying to ruin Heathenry.
[–]metalheadeBeach Heathen 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 14時間前 (1子コメント)
You're making an assumption about him, being belligerent, and making the rest of us look like ignorant assholes because apparently you don't know enough about weed to discuss it maturely. Religious context and blah blah blah is one thing, but holy shit you really flew off the handle here.
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't give two fucks if he wants to smoke a joint. What I will not tolerate is a permission seeking junkie dragging their shit into Heathenry like it's fucking anything goes hippy Wicca whateverism. Don't like it, I don't give even the slightest of shits.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 15時間前 (78子コメント)
Shut the fuck up. I am not "uneducated." I hate stoners trying to hide their shit in my religion. Don't like it, too fucking bad. Go waste someone else's time and take your idiot bullshit with you.
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 15時間前 (77子コメント)
Where the hell am I trying to hide anything here? What bullshit are you even talking about? I'm glad you answered the general question though, according to you weed is horrible and I have to use my own faith as a Fucking excuse to smoke. I haven't seen someone flip this much shit over something since my friend came out to his Pentecostal family. God's forbid I come ask a simple Fucking question about the reception of a normal fucking thing in the faith in general. I don't know what stoner beat you or slashed your tires, but stop projecting that shit on the majority of everyday and average cannabis users who don't want to hide in a closet to use a substance safer than alcohol.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 14時間前 (76子コメント)
Permission seeking junkies need to take OD where they can't get medical assistance. Fuck off.
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 14時間前 (44子コメント)
This type os arrongance is certanly to be expected from you, but this type of manner is not.
I am saddly impressed.
[–]MediumSizedDipper 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 14時間前 (30子コメント)
Seconding this. Being abrasive is one thing, but actively telling someone to kill themselves is pretty shitty behavior.
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
Everyone of us has something that is pretty shitty when it comes to personality, and /u/Aleglad's angsty behavior is his particularity that I hate. :)
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 14時間前 (19子コメント)
I didn't actually tell him to kill himself. I just said that junkies ought to. It's cheaper than wasting money on their "rehab." Can't say I'd miss them either.
#NoSympathy
[–]MediumSizedDipper 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 14時間前 (11子コメント)
You repeatedly called him a junkie, and then said that junkies should kill themselves. You clearly have some personal issues with drug usage and users that you need to sort out, don't take it out on some random dude who wandered in.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 14時間前 (10子コメント)
Don't like it? Too fucking bad. I have no use AT ALL for junkies profaning something holy to justify their habit. And, yes, I said junkie. Go cry to someone who gives a shit.
[–]metalheadeBeach Heathen 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 13時間前 (6子コメント)
Alright, I'll gather up all the other stoners around here and we'll all smoke so many marijuanas that we'll all OD together. We'll film the entire thing while ritualistically having godsex with the lady Freja. Just to piss you off. /s
Telling people to commit suicide, especially over something as trivial as pot, is unbecoming of someone of your intelligence. Stop acting like a fucking cunt, mate.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 13時間前 (5子コメント)
Let me repeat myself, since you are obviously too dense to have gotten it. I do not give a shit that he smokes weed. What pisses me off is the permission seeking behavior and trying to use religion to condone the behavior. That is what makes me angry as fuck. Hiding behind religion, or even trying to find "the right kind of people" to condone his behavior is disgusting. So, yeah, I want bad things to happen to him for that. Very bad things. Don't like it? I do not care. I am sick and fucking tired of stoner fuck ups trying to hide behind religion to justify their habit as something "spiritual." Fuck that and fuck anyone who even remotely thinks it's okay.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 14時間前 (8子コメント)
Well, it would save me the effort of hiding a body in a bog.
[–]MediumSizedDipper 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 14時間前 (7子コメント)
It's over the line and you know it.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 14時間前 (6子コメント)
This is me not giving a shit. It's also how I feel about white supremacists. Got a problem with that too or is okay for one kind of fuck up to screw things up but not another? I don't give two shits if he smokes himself so stupid he shits his pants. I won't tolerate permission seeking junkies dragging their drug habit into something holy and making a mockery of it.
[–]smilesbot 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 14時間前 (5子コメント)
Aww, there there! :)
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (4子コメント)
AAAAWWWWW!!! :D
I FOUND MY BOT! <3
[–]smilesbot 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前 (2子コメント)
Yayy! ☆゚.・。゚(^・ω・^ )。゚・☆゚.
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前 (1子コメント)
OH, GODS, YOU ARE FAST TO ANSWER!
I LIKE YOU! :D
[–]ThorinRurikssonThe Diplomatic One 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
You found it, and you lost it. I'm sorry, Marcel. I know it was your new pet, but you know the rules. You can weep at its grave if it makes you feel better.
[+]alegladThe Grouchy One スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 14時間前 (6子コメント)
I have no use at all for permission seeking junkies trying to drag their shit into Heathenry as if it's anything goes whateverism they think is nifty today. Fuck them.
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (5子コメント)
I am 100% against lowering Heathenry because of stupid people (see other ones such as: Wicca, Racists, pseudo-pagans and christianized heathens) and I learned here how and why to hate them, but acting all angsty isn't 'highering' our religion either.
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 14時間前 (4子コメント)
This is me not caring. I don't give two shits if he smokes himself so stupid he shits his pants. I don't care if you do. I do get SERIOUSLY pissed off when people engage in permission seeking behavior to shield their drug habit under something sacred and holy.
[–]marcelmiranda<Funny flair> -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 14時間前 (3子コメント)
Same thing when people come here to Valhalladated, right?
Anyway, you need to cheer up. Meet my new friend /u/smilesbot. He'll cheer you the fuck up. <3
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (28子コメント)
I love how you said to od on a substance you can't technically on, so I can't get medical assistance, which by the way, cannabis is recognized for medicinal use, and in a lot of places covered through medical assistance to treat people's illnesses and issue's
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 14時間前 (27子コメント)
A decision that was rushed to without sufficient evidence of actual benefit that would satisfy real science not blinded by an agenda. But, yeah, please go smoke yourself so stupid you shit your pants. Maybe I'll get a laugh if something extra tragic happens to you. Actually, the idea of that fills me with wonderful, sadistic glee.
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 14時間前 (26子コメント)
You're right, as each state marches legalization forward, year after year on the back of the science that cannabis is worse than cigarettes and alcohol and has no use in relation to cancer, seizure prevention, and mental disorders...oh wait.
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 14時間前 (25子コメント)
Blah blah blah. There is inconclusive evidence and it is rushed to legalization on speculation, not evidence. None the less, this is nothing more than an attempt to distract from the fact that you are seeking permission for your habit by trying to find people who approve of your behavior. You are the worst kind of person possible. You disgust me. I have no use for your worthless ass.
[–]metalheadeBeach Heathen 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 13時間前 (12子コメント)
There is not a word you just said that is correct.
[–]KhalBeorn[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13時間前 (11子コメント)
You are as backwards as the worst hillbilly I have ever run across, I do not have a junkie habit, I do not seek permission for anything I do, least of all from you, I came here to be open and polite and ask for a general guidelines on interaction with groups in regards to a subject I did not find discussed previously here.
[–]m0rgaine 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I have a lot of respect for you but your comments on this thread are out of line, rude, and inappropriate. I also have little tolerance for people who use religion as an excuse for crappy behavior, but telling people to kill themselves is really shitty. And you're factually incorrect, marijuana is not an addictive substance and also not something you can OD on. Addicts are sick people who deserve treatment and a certain level of compassion. They obviously do shitty things, and they make terrible choices, but unless they murder someone they don't deserve to die.
[–]alegladThe Grouchy One -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Actually, you can OD on THC, but the quantity is insane. It takes something like 400+ tons of pot to hit that point. Anyway, I will get back to the point: I don't give a shit about whether someone smokes pot or not. I do give a shit when they come around here seeking permission or passing their drug habit off as somehow "spiritual." Throughout every last bit of this, not one of these potheads has done anything but lob justification after justification for why their habit is acceptable. Not one of them has had the balls to say "I don't need to justify my action, I like the way it makes me feel." Not one of them. They never do. It's always the latest hippy crap and pseudo-science about how it's "safer than X." Those or the people I would actually respect. The rest, those seeking to justify their behavior, earn nothing but contempt. Those trying to hide behind the legitimacy of religion for that justification are the ones that I want to see horribly mutilated for my entertainment.
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