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[–]tigereyeearth 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

this video is super lame. moon landings super fake. just cause some people can fly up in the air does not mean they can fly all the way to the moon.

[–]parrhesiaJoe 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

But we've been 1% of the way there... the other 99% must be a piece of cake. We could probably do it on the first try, amazingly... but we'd probably lose the telemetry data... and the films... and the specs for most of the vehicles... and the space suits... And then we'd probably not go back for half a century or more because that super makes tons of sense.

[–]tigereyeearth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

if you can jump you can fly. that's my motto.

[–]Rockran 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

We could probably do it on the first try, amazingly...

Apollo 11 wasn't their first flight

It's called Apollo 11 for a really good reason, try figure out what that reason might be.

[–]metabolix 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

You again....

[–]tigereyeearth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

hiya

[–]Rockran 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Likewise.

But am I wrong?

NASA didn't just go from LEO to the moon in a single mission, they started easy and went a little further, bit by bit, testing and tweaking till they managed to first orbit the moon with Apollo 8, to landing with Apollos 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17.

[–]BigLebowskiBot -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.

[–]parrhesiaJoe -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Landing and taking off was a first, and that is the thing we'd never done... land on something and take off... quite a feat.

[–]Rockran 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You make it sound like landing and NOT taking off was ever going to be a plan.

Prior to Apollo 8, they'd never orbited the moon, quite a feat... Right? But that's the nature of taking things in steps, you do something you'd never done before each time.

[–]parrhesiaJoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes... and if something went wrong on one of those steps, I would not have expected the government to just give up. I would expect them to fake it.

IF, however, they really wanted to convince people with something that REALLY couldn't have been faked, it would have been SOOOO easy. Every film faker in the world knows that it is 1000 times harder to fake videos from two different angles, and faking two people filming each other without computers is downright impossible in 1969, but they could have done it so easily. Also, they could just show us the originals, and we could tell that they were authentic... but they are lost.

[–]Vitalogy0107 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh, just like they lost all of the WTC debris. Like they lost JFK's brain. Tons of crucial evidence happens to go missing.

[–]Rockran [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I would not have expected the government to just give up. I would expect them to fake it.

Why wouldn't they just... I dunno, fix the problem and try again?

faking two people filming each other without computers is downright impossible in 1969

I don't follow.

If the astronauts used strings to simulate low gravity on the moon, why would this be 1000x harder to fake if they used two different camera angles?

Also, they could just show us the originals, and we could tell that they were authentic

What would be a sign of authenticity versus forgery?

[–]metabolix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yep, its the same kind of deception as 9/11. The cognitive disonance is big.