Genna has banned reddit.

StandingCow · 4日前

This is probably the only way to keep TB off it from his main PC... assuming she did it via their router or some sort of parental controls. Now if he also can't get to it via his smartphone we should be golden.

This should significantly help TB's mental health since he just couldn't help himself.

Still though... my god has this all been blown out of proportion.

Edit: Good idea to listen to this, TB just put this out about this entire situation: https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/mental-health

Darksoldierr · 4日前

Why tweet about it?

Nimbal · 4日前

Here's something I'm honestly wondering about: How are viewers supposed to give feedback beyond YouTube's simplistic "like / dislike"? YouTube comments are disabled, this subreddit is all but abandoned by the Bains and the "About" section on the YouTube channel has a single contact address that only seems to be meant for business inquiries.

Do they expect us to compress it into 140 characters and tweet them? Do they want feedback at all?

Flashmanic · 4日前

This has been a great example of how everything on the internet gets blown waaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

TB overreacted to the comments about the podcast, the subreddit overreacted to TB's comments. Then Genna and TB both overreacted to the subreddit (again).

In other words, this has become, like most things on the internet, a shitstorm for absolutely no reason. And now the result is TB has cut himself off from his audience even further than he already has done.

Interference22 · 4日前

Some of the condescending replies take the cake: "I've heard Reddit is really toxic." Coming from Twitter, the foremost source of internet hate in a generation, that's a bit rich.

Herlock · 4日前

I like TB and Genna (although I don't quite follow up what she does), but this is plain stupid.

What's the point of advertising a router ban (which can be overruled very easily anyway) ?

"I banned a certain domain"

that's just fishing for "which one did you ban ?"

Was there really a need to escalate things like this ? She could have done it and that's all, what good comes out of throwing gasoline at the issue ?

I don't understand this attitude. While your random anonymous redditor can say stupid thing, they are public figures and should know better.

TB is a smart person, I expect him to know better than this how social medias work.

It's even more ridiculous that this comes from a completely insignificant issue to begin with. It's been blown out of proportion for no good reason.

Count__Duckula · 4日前

So youtube has toxic users, this subreddit has toxic users....yet twitter hasn't? DONT MAKE ME LAUGH

ComputerJerk · 4日前

For people who have repeatedly said that Twitter is a terrible platform for discourse, they sure seem to believe in having as little actual discourse as humanly possible.

I'd say good riddance since they've been nothing but a pox on their fanbase recently, but it's not going to stop them from sniping at us from Twitter.

It's OK though right? Because if I'm a "Real" fan I'll create a twitter account and have absolutely zero productive interactions?

DeMilan · 4日前

Sorry for being somewhat off-topic, but what the hell happened? I've seen some posts indicating that some reddit-related drama happened but that's all I know.

An explanation would be great!

CBCronin · 4日前

Didn't want to think this before but, whole thing feels as if it has more to do with what occurred during and as a result of the reddit blackout than this issue at all.

You don't silence your only reliable means of critique, so that you can live in a twitter echo-chamber, and expect your level of quality to remain high. "Twitter is a horrible medium for sharing ideas", how many times have we heard this?

Agent_Dale_Cooper · 4日前

I think it would have been better if she had blocked reddit without the announcement.

It seems like the difference is between leaving the room or leaving the room while flipping everyone off as you go.

SeaJayCJ · 4日前

Remember when TB said he'd stop reading the subreddit? Maybe he actually will now, haha.

Thing124ok · 4日前

I'm sorry this sounds so much like TB is a nuaghty kid it's hilarious.

Linkin_G · 4日前

I found it funny that the guy called reddit internet cancer while using Twitter lol. The irony.

NonRock · 4日前

The only thing I find interesting is how many people that replied to the tweet refer to reddit as a bad place.

Arathian · 4日前

This whole thing is retarded.

Some people thought a whatever person, little girl apparently, was annoying. This somehow leads to a shitstorm.

I am out, good luck.

konraddo · 4日前

This is getting out of control. And my humble opinion is they hire experts to help them, rather than believing that they can resolve everything on their own.

For one thing, they need a communications manager to assist them in external communications. TB is a star but not just a reporter so people don't just focus on your work. They aLao focus and judge your appearance, personality, as well as what you do, who you meet, etc. The best way to resist things that you don't want to know or see is to let someone else to look at them and not tell you that. That person cannot be anyone who exists in your non work life because that person will forget and share with you those horrible things at dinner or bed. And this is not what you want to happen.

aullik · 4日前

I hope she blocks twitter next.

Its really sad to say, but the critical tb just doesnt seem to be able to take criticism

ElmoTrooper · 4日前

Wait so we can actually say shit without worrying whether TB will call us horrible people? Cool. I was worried it was going to happen every other week. So many people tried to be respectful in their responses, communicating their feelings, and this is what TB takes away from it? People here love him, man, and it sucks for them to be burned so often.

Atlare · 4日前

Her account has also been banned from the subreddit.

bathrobehero · 4日前

Here we go again. What's the use of telling it to the world on twitter that she blocked reddit? If they were unable to come to the source of the problem and communicate, what could they possibly hope to achieve by talking about it on twitter to a different demographic who doesn't know any better?

From now on I'll avoid/skip any content from TB that is either outside of gaming or even remotely serious and keep watching his otherwise great gaming content.

GiantSquidBoy · 4日前

Or just stop going on reddit... it's not hard. I don't like certain websites, and I don't go on them! MAGICAL. I'M A WIZARD.

croppergib · 4日前

It's like they're the Amy's Bakery of Youtube right now. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

NewGuy1414 · 4日前

I agree with the person who suggested a community manager. It's really their best option. Too bad they won't be able to to see suggestions like this now that they've blocked reddit off.

Zankman · 4日前

Sad state of affairs and as some others have said, this was all blown out of proportion (first by them, then by us, then by them again).

It's sad that a simple disagreement on what comments are "too mean" has led to this.

Literately the only thing they needed to do was say:

"In our opinion, the average comment in the relevant Podcast thread is a bit too mean, even if the authors didn't intend it that way. Please, try not to be too harsh and inconsiderate, as your throwaway comments of mild annoyance might be very painful and hurtful for someone, since who knows who might be reading the thread.

We understand that there are some audio issues with this episode and we will, as per usual, do our best to prevent more of the same in the future."

If only they had responded this way and prevented any of this nonsense.

kk__ · 4日前

wow, TB overreacted, threw a tantrum and his wife banned him from reddit. This seriously sounds like TB acting like a child and his wife treating him like an overprotective spoiling mother.

ngauge · 4日前

Im over it all now. Im no longer subbed to TB's channels on Youtube and Twitch, or his Twitter. Im just over he's antics and the way he seems to court controversy.

There was a time when i appreciated the content he made and the point of view he brought to subjects. But now it just isn't worth the emotional baggage that goes along with it. For a while now ive come away from his videos feeling pretty crappy about things, and i no longer want to associate with something that causes that.

Maybe one day it'll be like the good ol' Blue Plz days and we can all sit down and talk openly about games (and only games) and what make's em good/bad. But until then im out TB.

mortavius2525 · 4日前

It's sad that it's come to this. Because it was completely preventable.

You know what would have fixed this entire thing?

If TB and Genna had not been vocal about it on twitter.

That's it. That's where the fatal mistake was made.

I understand from TBs recent soundcloud that there were some disturbing comments about a child on the subreddit. I never saw them, but I was late to the discussion; I believe TB when he says by then they were either downvoted or deleted.

I don't blame TB for not wanting child hate comments on the subreddit bearing his name. Whether he's involved or not, the fact it has his name on it creates an association.

What they SHOULD have done, is contacted the mods privately. They should have said something like "We don't like these comments here. We request that you remove them; if not, we'll be forced to disassociate with the subreddit (as is their right)."

Now, some people hate any kind of moderation on reddit. But when the reddit is as closely tied to an individual as this one is, it's different. It's not like this is a general subreddit like /r/gaming or something. Anything posted here can be associated with TB, good or ill.

Anyways, presumably the mods would take a look at the comments and remove them, as they probably fell under rule #5.

The end result? The offending comments would have been removed, no one would have known TBs concerns, and the goal would have been accomplished. Nothing would have blown up, no one would be complaining about people complaining, etc.

PS: I find it slightly annoying that these past few days seem to have generated comments that enraged Genna and TB so much they've left reddit. Especially when for months, virtually every week there would be a new post here about someone thanking TB, or praising him, or some such. It's like all those good posts were just completely forgotten about, because a small number of jerks made the front page.

QyuBurt_ · 4日前

To start with I didn't really give too much of a shit, but at this stage they are shooting themselves in the foot a bit. This entire situation has been blown incredibly out of proportion, and at this stage the only way to actually get involved with any of TBs videos is via Twitter, which I don't fucking use.

I'm losing interest in his channel to be honest.

InvisiblE182 · 4日前

That is probably good thing, but they really should take away TBs twitter again. He said multiple times that it is the worst medium for sharing opinions. He is right and it really is not working out for him.

LolFishFail · 4日前

I don't mean to be an asshole, But I'm out of the Loop, what exactly has happened to cause this? I thought the subreddit was generally a good community, but I've not been very active here in the last couple of weeks.

Darkenmal · 4日前

Good move I guess, but this whole thing has been handled very poorly by the both of them. Extremely condescending and making many of the same moves that TB has decried for years. Not impressed.

Lynks31 · 4日前

EDIT: After listening to TB's soundcloud, I have to again think about other factors, and not spill shit without knowing the full context. I apologize.

Nivius · 4日前

And /r/Cynicalbrit have banned genna.

this is a real soup of events

Singami · 4日前

Never have I felt so threatened to be someone's fan.

I wanted to buy one of his shirts once. But I've realized that - like it happened with one e-celeb already - he or Genna might just randomly lash out on me, if I leave a comment they won't like. If reading a bad comment from a fan hurts TB, then imagine how hurtful it must be to be attacked by someone you held as part of your daily routine. Imagine that happening, when you own a shirt with that person's brand.

AzureNinja99 · 4日前

Funny, because TB has said in the past that judging an entire site by a couple of crazy people (tumblr specifically) is wrong. The hypocrisy is absurd.

FinalXevv · 4日前

Glad I won't have to see another overblown rant on twitter about a few isolated mildly offensive comment, which are usually downvoted.

Couldn't give less of a shit about his sanity or whatever, just want to enjoy his vids without his drama queen tendency.

KingGak · 4日前

Works for me. Hopefully we can be done with this affair now.

Talk about first world problems.

RedheadAgatha · 4日前

Bye, Genna o/

DeoFayte · 4日前

Little reminder that the people we look to for entertaining content and opinions are still people.

I think that's a mistake but I don't know either of them personally, maybe it is for the best.

Quite frankly anything that encourages this wind to die down and the sub to go back to discussion about Totalbiscuits content instead of discussion about his personal actions is a step in the right direction.

AdriftSC · 4日前

Is it so hard to disagree and move on with your life? TB is the most reasonable person i'm aware of and now he does these outright childish things. Way to lose my respect.

KynElwynn · 4日前

Hypocritical painting with broad strokes.

penguished · 4日前

What's wrong with this subreddit? I think half the things I've ever posted here are like "Glad TB is recovering" or upvoting stuff like that.

So... yeaaaaah. This seems silly.

Valiantttt · 4日前

Sad that it has been blown up so much but I guess it is for the best.

Although I regret looking at some of the twitter replies because my god, that is a toxic bunch of replies.

Helmite · 4日前

This is pretty ridiculous. She may as well block their connections to Twitter as well considering past shenanigans. You'd hope people in this sort of business would be more PR savvy by now, but this stuff has really only managed to make lots of bad impressions.

Also it's great how rather than discuss things with people on here they'd rather just dump on Reddit from their Twitter chairs. Fabulous.

PotCounts · 4日前

To the moderators that kept this place clean. Thank you for the hard work.

rhysbane00 · 4日前

I personally see no problem with what Genna has done, Reddit is causing psychological damage to TB, he IS in therapy for such issues. If he is having compulsions to look at the reddit and therefore undoing the therapy then she should do anything to stop that until the therapy is complete and he can actually deal with social media. Its that simple to me regardless of whatever has gone (and I think it was blown all out of proportion and a bit stupid on both sides, but its hardly the first time there has been reddit drama) on. So its not like its important lets move on the subreddit can continue as it is just without their involvement. So can we just shut up and move on?

thefluffyburrito · 4日前

I used to come to this subreddit to comment on any videos TB came out with. Knowing that this subreddit is really no longer connected to TB in any way is really strange.

If there's one thing that will alienate TB from his community it's his ego getting too out of control. First he silences reddit, next he silences twitter after a comment there annoys him, and then everyone gets fed up that they have no way of communicating or providing feedback and they will leave. Reading about this whole situation makes him sound like a gigantic hypocrite for his attitude of lumping everyone into the same group and sifting out only negative comments.

ExplosionSanta · 4日前

Fine by me.

Whenever TB and his audience interact with each other, the result is unpleasant.

Just keep doing what you're doing and pretend we're nice people.

Rancid_Tomato · 4日前

By posting it on Twitter this is essentially a petty final act of last-word retaliation. Genna's actually done this sort of thing before.

I love this comes after TB's apparently very calm, very mature audio response. I can imagine him recording that with her pacing back and forth in the background, hair wild and eyes ablaze.

NocturnalQuill · 4日前

I'm confused, why Reedit? People fucking worship the ground he walks on here. Has he seen r/pcmasterrace? If I was him and I felt bad about myself, this is the first place I would go

Ekaros · 4日前

Good for them and good for us.

malfurionpre · 4日前

For someone who criticise a lot, TB sure can't handle any (nor Genna apparently)

That's pretty sad ...

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