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Sid Blair (Crackgate guy) is no longer banned (twitter.com)

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[–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (34子コメント)

Never should have been banned in the first place, his banning left a huge stain on MTG among adult players as a community that is too sensitive, PC, and can't take a joke.

[–]jakebeleren 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

In the future try replacing "politically correct" with "trying not to be an asshole" and see if you understand better.

[–]Wilhelm_Screamer -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Pc is not that at all.

[–]klapaucius 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

And yet people are calling Wizards "too PC" for punishing that guy for being an asshole.

[–]nick012000 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

He wasn't being an asshole, he was bringing attention to a serious hygiene and image issue the community faced. Unfortunately, rather than dealing with it by revising their tournament rules to include a reasonable dress code, Wizards decided just to ban him instead.

[–]klapaucius -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Right, and middle-school bullies are actually good people, helping other kids out by letting them know that they need to act less nerdy.

[–]nick012000 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's an invalid comparison. People running around with their asses hanging out is a valid hygiene issue; other people will have to sit in those chairs afterwards, and if your ass is hanging out of your pants, you can spread germs that way. Additionally, it looks horrible, and it presents a major image issue.

If Wizards was serious about wanting to get more female competive players, they should stop fucking around with the SocJust Feminism bullshit, and start cracking down on players who run around with their asses hanging out.

[–]klapaucius 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What does feminism have to do with any of this?

[–]Wilhelm_Screamer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which they were being

[–]jakebeleren -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's exactly what it is.

[–]worldchrisis 7ポイント8ポイント  (23子コメント)

His actions left a huge stain on MTG among the general public as a game only played by disgusting neckbeards. He completely deserved what he got.

Nobody on this subreddit understands PR.

[–]Crossfiyah 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Uhh...

...That is mostly true, at least at that level.

If people don't want to be perceived as that....don't be that?

If you don't give a shit how you're perceived, then fuck it. More power to you. But you can't get angry if someone calls you out on something you are actually doing.

LSV was unhappy with his health so he lost a ton of weight. It's hard, sure. But you don't even need to lose weight if you don't want that perception.

Just shave, bathe, and wear a belt.

Are those three things really such an unreasonable expectation to have of someone before they attend a major event for a hobby they love?

[–]worldchrisis -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No I don't think they are, and I'm not arguing that they aren't. I'm arguing that Blair's actions were mean-spirited and portrayed the game worse than it actually is in reality.

[–]Crossfiyah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It did nothing to portray the game either way.

It portrayed (largely accurately) a portion of its most hardcore enthusiasts.

[–]nick012000 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can't fix problems if no-one points them out, and that's what he was doing: bringing attention to a problem, so that it could be fixed.

[–]worldchrisis -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that's giving him way more credit than he deserves. I thought he was pretty obviously just publicly making fun of unsuspecting people.

[–]Stalgondo[🍰] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (13子コメント)

PR is friendlier term for Propaganda. He simply photographed what was there, and that's part of the humor.

MTG isn't some ill-defined social movement that people can project their own meanings onto. Its a card game, we don't need PR.

[–]worldchrisis 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

The stigma that Magic players are gross neckbeards hurts the ability of the game to attract new players.

And PR is not just Propaganda, it's how you present yourself and what you're representing to the larger public.

[–]klapaucius 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's a card game, we don't need people harassing people at public events by taking creepshots so the internet can laugh at them.

[–]Stalgondo[🍰] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Taking photos of people at public events is not harassment. If you intend to define it that way, perhaps you should look around and notice the security cameras watching you at every public event, or the myriad of people taking pictures to commemorate their visit.

The comedic value and intent of his images does not change their nature, as both of those are subjective concepts and thus cannot be used with any degree of accuracy to measure what is or is not "harassment".

[–]klapaucius 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

So in your mind there's no difference between a security camera and running around taking photos of people's asscracks to make fun of them. You don't see any sort of distinguishing characteristics that make those different actions.

[–]Stalgondo[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Again, which part is a distinguishing factor for you?
Is it the photograph itself? If so, photos are a common occurrence - there is no expectation of privacy at public events.
Is it the intent of the person taking the photograph? If so, you cannot know their intent, you can only guess - and thus your methodology is entirely your own and cannot be prescribed as a solution.

You seem to be taking a lot for granted. Please tell me which specific empirical factors change the situation to one of harassment.

[–]klapaucius -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll just get a team of harassologists to come in and run full empirical readings on the Non-Consensual Photo Harassment Quotient (NCSPHQ) of Blair's non-consensual photos. If it's under 8.5, then your scientific hypothesis will be supported.