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Sid Blair (Crackgate guy) is no longer banned (twitter.com)
ButtsendWeaners が 13時間前 投稿
[–]Pietart 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 6時間前 (6子コメント)
Okay, serious request. If you (or anyone) sees my ass hanging out of my shorts (it's unlikely since I'm pretty careful about this, belts and long shirts, etc), please subtly let me know so I can fix the problem. Thanks! <3
[–]NinjaTheNick 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
In the same vein, please take a picture of mine. I feel like I deserve it for making you look at my crack.
[–]Parryandrepost 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分前 (1子コメント)
Like request: if you ever see me and I sink tell me. I have no sense of smell and will fix it but I need to know.
[–]ScouseSpouse 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分前 (0子コメント)
if you ever see me and I sink tell me.
"Zis is ze German coast guard..."
[–]RevoltOfTheBeavers 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19分前 (0子コメント)
I've actually had a judge do this for me. Thanks, Judge!
[–]OB1FBM 169ポイント170ポイント171ポイント 13時間前* (77子コメント)
Right now it says I'm still banned. I'm assuming (and hoping) that it's because it's not midnight on the west coast.
Edit: To everyone that looks at my twitter, I view twitter as a complete joke and use it for satire. What I say on it doesn't represent how I feel about anything.
[–]CommiePuddin 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 6時間前* (18子コメント)
To everyone that looks at my twitter, I view twitter as a complete joke and use it for satire. What I say on it doesn't represent how I feel about anything.
I wish you the best of luck in convincing your potential* future employers of that.
[–]PterodactylMan 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 6時間前 (10子コメント)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that he's probably intelligent enough to just say "Oh I don't use twitter" in the interview.
[–]mjschul16 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 5時間前 (8子コメント)
Companies look you up, anyway.
[–]PterodactylMan 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
I agree, but there's a lot of ways you can still minimize your detectable online footprint if you want to make the kind of jokes and posts this guy does. I think the whole "just give in companies will look over all your online history and control everything" is just a real unfortunate mental road to go down, just as a personal hangup, so I like pointing out that it's not hopeless.
[–]mjschul16 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
This is true. Not very relevant to Sid Blair anymore, though, given the fact that this post exists linking his name to his twitter account (if it wasn't already before).
[–]GarrukApexRedditor 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 24分前 (0子コメント)
If you choose to minimize your online profile, all that means is that what little does make it out has more influence. And since you're not putting anything out yourself, that means you don't control it.
The correct approach is to flood the internet with your own content. Or legally change your name to Pope Francis.
[–]Elonth -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
this. the most i "maintain" is a facebook i haven't changed since i was in highschool. i don't even have a picture of myself.
[–]chuckburban 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
I had a company pass on me after college because I posted something on LiveJournal about wanting to try to be a tattoo artist instead of working with computers. People do their research.
[–]not_anyone 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
What a horrible company, would you really have wanted to work there anyways?
[–]chuckburban 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I honestly don't remember which company it was, but more than likely no.
[–]ScouseSpouse 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分前 (0子コメント)
What if it was a company hiring him to work on computers?
[–]CommiePuddin 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
He also thinks what he does is comedy, so I would reserve judgement on that account.
[–]steamd-rice -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 1時間前 (6子コメント)
If you're employer asks about your internet usage you're working for the wrong company bud.
[–]CommiePuddin 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (5子コメント)
I don't think it's very wise to pretend that social media is just "on the internet," therefore it doesn't count.
If you touch any kind of public-facing materials for a company, including and especially their social media accounts, they're going to be interested in your personal social media presence.
I mean, if you're willing to put pictures of ass cracks on your personal twitter, I'm not going to hire you to do anything related to showing things to my potential customers.
[–]steamd-rice 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 44分前 (4子コメント)
It's pretty hard to pretend that the peoples veins don't course with FB and bullshit alike. Abstaining from these giant cesspools and actually doing things with your life that YOU yourself can then tell your employer of choice is a far better option. Would you rather revel in stories or show someone you don't give a fuck about a few pictures on your timeline?
[–]CommiePuddin 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 41分前 (3子コメント)
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but if I'm getting ready to hire someone, I'm going to check up on their social media presence. I need to know how they're going to represent themselves (and me/my product) to my customers, so I'm going to see how they represent themselves to the rest of the world.
[–]steamd-rice -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 29分前 (2子コメント)
Assuming they have a presence on social media. Given 80% of the population is on it in some way, what do you do when there's nothing to be googled about the person? Reject them?
[–]GarrukApexRedditor 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分前 (1子コメント)
Pretty much. It's not as if there's a shortage of qualified candidates who have a strong, positive social media presence.
[–]riotingtom 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 12時間前 (25子コメント)
The hero we need, but don't deserve. Do you have any plans for how you get banned next? I really like the fact that I see less asscrack in the mtg world now. Godspeed brother.
[–]Fleme 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 11時間前 (12子コメント)
Well, getting rid of those individuals that disrespect the social contract of personal hygiene and permeate all spaces they occupy with a musky cloud would be fantastic.
If only.
[–]klapaucius 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
What you should do is point and laugh at them and yell "GET OUT YOU FAT SMELLY PIECE OF SHIT" everywhere you go. It'd be a more honest form of harassment than taking creepshots.
[+]xdest スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Maybe he has used his off time to invent a spray that turns the air blue around people that farted, like the coloring in swimming pools when urinating.
[–]klapaucius -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4時間前 (10子コメント)
The hero we need, but don't deserve.
Wow, this whole thread is like the school bully's dad from an old sitcom.
"So my boy called your son a fat queer and shoved him down? Good! Maybe that'll teach 'im to be less of a fat queer!"
[–]riotingtom 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 3時間前 (9子コメント)
This isn't about someone being something that they can't help like a "fat queer." Its about people's blatant disregard for others. If your ass crack is hanging out, you can help it, pull your fucking pants up, it takes just a second.
[–]ScouseSpouse 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分前 (0子コメント)
Its about people's blatant disregard for others.
Yeah, like the guy who took pictures of those people and posted it online mocking them.
[–]klapaucius -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 3時間前 (7子コメント)
If you see someone's asscrack hanging out, it takes just a second to tell them to pull it up. You don't make fun of them specifically on the internet.
[–]riotingtom 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
Its not my responsibility to look at your ass hanging out and help you fix it. What is wrong with you?
[–]klapaucius 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
You're right. Better take secret photos of them to make fun of on Reddit instead. That's the moral thing to do.
[–]riotingtom 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Finally we are on the same page here. Jeez
[–]AttemptedRationalism 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前* (0子コメント)
This still seems analogous to taking close-up pictures of someone's cleavage (no joke intended here) and posting them online without their consent. I don't think "public visibility" is a strong defense for taking part of someone's anatomy that they don't wish to have people focused on and sharing it in such a way with large amounts of people online. I don't know if any of the people in these photos have come forward, but I could imagine they might have gone through some amount of social torment over it, and we do live in a day and age where young people have committed suicide over less, so I think the public body-shaming is a real thing.
I would have supported the ban, to be perfectly honest. Making the - let's call it "Pant's Line" - issue a matter of public discussion is definitely a positive because we should address it, but if that were this person's primary goal, they would have certainly done things differently; the people in those photos are certainly recognizable and the emphasis was humor of a schoolyard-bully variety.
[–]mustafa2812 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I feel like we've had this argument on Reddit before. Maybe there was a post about it a while ago with pictures or something. Really, let's let it rest.
[–]ScouseSpouse 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
But I'm not that busy today.
[–]bobartig -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Do you have any plans for how you get banned next?
Posting lots of pictures of his own crack at GPs, obviously.
[–]dougtulane 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 37分前 (0子コメント)
Since this blew up, do you have any empathy for the people you took pictures of? Have you had any self-reflection on this?
[–]ManaBurnCenter 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Why is 'Satire' the first thing lazy ass unfunny people go to when they try to explain themselves?
Look dude, just say "I think being a dick is funny." It's fine. Being a dick can sometimes be funny, but don't think you're Mark Twain or anything.
[–]millertime4402 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
You have basically just described the purpose of satire.
[–]ManaBurnCenter 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
"For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much — the wheel, New York, wars and so on — whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man — for precisely the same reasons." -Douglas Adams
"No girls allowed unless we're getting hole." - Magic ass-crack dude.
[–]klapaucius 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
It's a shame /r/creepshots doesn't exist anymore, you'd make a good mod for it.
[–]uguysmakemesick 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
You're in luck, brother! /r/candidfashionpolice
[–]Shuko 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (6子コメント)
Ah, has it been 18 months already? Time flies, I guess. I can't remember ever seeing a more contentious and controversial banning than yours. It was a real popcorn fest, that's for sure. Do you plan on playing again?
[–]Matrocles 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
Pretty sure the community was way more divided on Zach Jesse.
[–]ExSavior 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
The vast majority was against the banning. You can't see them now, because the mods deleted everything, but there were thousand plus comment threads filled with people saying that the ban was a mistake.
[–]slowhand88 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 38分前 (1子コメント)
You watch that plus-ungood wrongthink buddy. The mods did what's best for the community. The mods did what's best for the community. The mods did what's best for the community.
[–]Parryandrepost 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分前 (0子コメント)
If you say something enough it's true right?
[–]Love_Bulletz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Shhh. We can't talk about he-who-shall-not-be-named here. The mods might burn us at the stake.
[–]Shuko -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I think I agree about the controversy insofar as how contested the ban was, within the community. It wasn't nearly as popular outside the community, though. Sid's post in /r/funny was one of the highest-voted threads there of all time. Naturally, Wizards doesn't want their brand to be affiliated with convicted rapists, and Zach Jesse provided the community with plenty of cringey exposure. But for some reason, the world loves butts, and when Sid showcased some of the biggest and brightest examples of the MTG community, it was far more popular with the normies than any sort of criminal history controversy.
If Sid hadn't drawn so much attention to Magic with the association people were making between bad hygiene and the game, would Wizards still have banned him? Maybe. But I doubt they'd have given him 18 months if they did.
[+]what__if スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Too late, I'm feeling unsafe & triggered.
Welcome back :)
[–]Karametric 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
You're my hero, welcome back. Everyone but the most hardcore of MTG players can take a joke, and Crackgate was one of the funniest things I had ever seen. I'm sorry that you got banned by a bunch of asshats and called out by Ass Crack Justice Warriors. Keep doing ya thang.
[+]Powelly1995 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
Is this an early unbanning? I thought it was until the end of the year sometime? Congrats by the way!
[–]worldchrisis 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
It was 18 months. GP Richmond was last March.
[–]ElvishSpirit -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh my god I love your twitter brother. Much love. HH
[–]murdercrase -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Your twitter name is the funniest thing ever
[–]dougtulane 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 5時間前 (5子コメント)
He didn't deserve a lifetime ban, I still think it was a jerky thing to do.
When you don't have a waist, sometimes your pants slip down.
While I do have a waist (now) seeing myself in that thread would've ruined my week.
We've had a lot of talk about making Magic a safe space for people to play in, which I agree with. I think that should extend to fat nerds.
[–]klapaucius 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
He didn't deserve a lifetime ban
Well, he didn't get one. This whole thread is full of people complaining about how awful and PC Wizards is that the poor guy can't harass anyone without being kicked out of card game tournaments for under two years.
[–]Sourdust2 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 52分前 (3子コメント)
I am sorry, but I would advocate for players getting official warnings if their crack is out from a judge then a round lose on second offense.
[–]dougtulane 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 41分前 (2子コメント)
Yes! Then we should check hemlines and necklines. And no pants-sagging!
Can we ban gauged ears too? I think they're gross. Oh, and tattoos offend my religion.
/s
[–]InternetNinja92 38ポイント39ポイント40ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
All the comments on this thread that aren't enthusiastically welcoming him back have been downvoted into being auto hidden.
[–]OnSpeakerCrab 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Or you know, people are being assholes and then getting their comments deleted for trolling or deleting them on their own because they are embarrassed for being shit heads.
[–]Dzuri -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
So the majority are enthusiastically welcoming him back. Do you have a problem with that?
[–]thegalli 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 6時間前 (8子コメント)
/u/ob1fbm should rent a booth at the next GP near him and let people make donations for him to take a pic with their buttcrack, then give the money to some kind of relevant anti-bullying charity or something.
[–]zarepath 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
this is genius but kind of mixed messaging
[–]nookularboy 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
On the surface, this sounds like a terrible idea but deep down I would pay for it.
[–]thegalli 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Well if he was doing it just for straight profit I don't see how anyone would let him rent the booth in the first place.
If he were giving the money to charity I think it would be funny and 'meta' enough that probably a lot of folks would pay money to pull their pants down slightly and have Sid kneel down and pray behind them.
[–]klapaucius 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
Anti-bullying charity? But this thread has taught me that /r/magictcg loves bullying as long as it's bullying someone else.
[–]Parryandrepost 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20分前 (0子コメント)
I really don't think his intentions were to bully individuals. If they were I think we would have got photos of faces too.
[–]Rakyn87 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分前 (0子コメント)
I would personally consider it more of a bully-thing to do to walk around in public exposing children and others to inappropriate body parts more so then taking pictures of someone you see doing that.
I'm not really defending either, but I don't think its fair to accuse this subreddit of promoting a bully-friendly agenda just based on what OP did.
[–]flaim 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
anti-bullying charity
Why would he want to do that? That's how he got popular in the first place.
[–]locustPLAGUE -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
No it isn't.
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[–]what__if 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
It's always been an old boy's club ^
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[–]MTGCardFetcher 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Sharpened Pitchfork - Gatherer, MC, ($) [[cardname]] to call - not on gatherer = not fetchable
[–]Thalia_is_my_Waifu 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Lol everything but card fetcher is deleted!
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[–]Shuko 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 4時間前 (31子コメント)
When I was playing at Gen-Con this year, I was sitting next to a heavyset guy whose pants were way down low. Thankfully, the chairs didn't have those little portholes in the back, but when he got up from his chair, everyone on God's green earth saw the poor man's arse. There was a mother and a little girl walking past when he got up, and the little girl turned to look at him, and she squealed and pointed at him, saying "Mommy, look! Mommy, look!"
Her mother hushed her and hurried them on, and I don't know if our man was aware of what had really happened. He just looked around with a confused expression on his face.
I'll never forget the flushed, gleeful expression on that kid's face. It's like she had just seen an albino deer for the first time in her life or something. It didn't traumatize her in the least, but it sure embarassed Mom, lol. She probably took her off somewhere to explain to her why we don't point and yell at people, even if their butts are falling out of their pants. I hope she didn't have a sour opinion of the game because of the incident, though. That's what really upset me about it all, if anything did.
You guys are unlucky. A lot of you don't have waists, so it makes it hard for you to keep your pants up, even with a belt. Us ladies generally have more curvature there, and it's easier for us to find pants that fit, too. I feel bad when I see a guy with his butt hanging out. I doubt they always realize it's happening, and I'd love to let them know so they can fix it, but I don't dare, because I don't want to embarrass them. :(
[–]nick012000 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
You guys are unlucky. A lot of you don't have waists, so it makes it hard for you to keep your pants up, even with a belt.
That's what you're supposed to use suspenders for.
[–]Shuko -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
I really, REALLY want 'spenders to come back. I want some rainbow-striped ones. I don't care if I look like Urkel; I wanna loop my thumbs under some 'spenders!
[–]nick012000 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I want some rainbow-striped ones. I don't care if I look like Urkel; I wanna loop my thumbs under some 'spenders!
If you're running around with rainbow-colored suspenders, I don't think you'll have to worry about looking like Urkel; people will probably just assume you're gay, instead. ;)
[–]MetathranSoldier 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I listened to IfIWereYouPodcast a while ago and they mentioned the suspenders trend as something that could really work for a person to boost their confidence. Also pretty dope idea!
[+]klapaucius スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 4時間前 (25子コメント)
It didn't traumatize her in the least, but it sure embarassed Mom, lol. She probably took her off somewhere to explain to her why we don't point and yell at people
If only the crackgate guy had a decent mother, all of this could've been avoided.
[–]Shuko 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 4時間前 (10子コメント)
Now don't be petty. We know absolutely nothing about Sid's mom, and besides, a person can have a good mother and still turn out rotten. Furthermore, it hasn't even been established that Sid is a bad person. I'm inclined to think he isn't, though taking pictures of people without their consent is generally a social faux pas, regardless of the setting. Were the pictures funny? Yes. But if the people in them weren't willing participants in the joke (especially since they were the butt of the joke anyway), then even funny jokes aren't cool.
[–]Myopic_Llama 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
(especially since they were the butt of the joke anyway)
Not sure if this was intentional, but I lol'd.
[–]Shuko 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
It was, and I'm glad you saw the bit of comic relief I injected into it. :)
[–]hellofriendo1234 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (13子コメント)
Someone doing something you don't like says something about the character of his mother?
Stay classy
[–]PraiseTheKappa 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 9時間前 (10子コメント)
Can somebody please enlighten me why he was banned? This happened before my time..
[–]evildave_666 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 9時間前 (9子コメント)
He posted a series of pictures to imgur/reddit of himself next to fat people playing at a GP with their buttcracks hanging out in the breeze and a lot of people had no sense of humor.
It became the most upvoted thread on reddit of all time.
[–]PraiseTheKappa 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Ohhh! The Buttcrack guy! Right! I have actually seen pictures of him next to them. Didn't recognize him on the twitter pictures!
Thanks for clarifying :)
[–]HydraCord 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 5時間前 (7子コメント)
Holy crap, that got him banned?
[–]klapaucius 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 5時間前* (0子コメント)
Wizards considers "posting pictures of people at a public event to make fun of them without their consent" to be a form of harassment, because it is.
[–]randomdragoon 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 5時間前 (5子コメント)
It created negative PR for the game. It might not be fair or just but that's the #1 easiest way to get banned.
[–]Karametric 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 13時間前 (2子コメント)
Realest dude in the game.
[–]colossusgb -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
And you can't teach that
[–]SirSkidMark -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
I'd have him sign my playmat, given the chance.
[–]Guesty_ 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 9時間前 (5子コメント)
So when can we expect part 2?
[–]Tackman_ 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
Crackgate 2: The Crackdown
[–]alienelement 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Crackgate 3: Crackback
[–]SirSkidMark -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Crackgate 4: A New Dope
[–]-THATONE -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
Followed by Krackgate 3: The Krackening
[–]NutDraw 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
RELEASE THE KRACKEN! On second thought no... Please put it back.
[–]dkac 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Is there a downvote bot in this thread or something?
[–]MeddlingMike 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
Kind of ridiculous he got banned in the first place.
[–]Pap3rkat 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Why is that?
[–]MeddlingMike 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
It was pretty funny and at the same time I don't think there's anything wrong with putting a little criticism on the community as a whole to maintain a certain level of appropriate dress. IIRC he didn't show faces. It wasn't personal attacks or bullying as some have suggested. I saw no need for Wizards of the Coast to intervene at that level.
[+]Pap3rkat スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I would have to disagree with you on that
It wasn't funny at all.
It shed a negative light on the community as a whole regardless of the message that was being sent out.
Regardless of showing faces people can figure out it if it was them or not and the surrounding people could as well.
It was bullying
WOTC should have and did intervene because they are protecting their player base and product as a whole from negativity
[–]MeddlingMike 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前* (0子コメント)
2-5. Sometimes you need to get into some harsh truths if you want to see positive change. Although I recognize that Magic players are an incredibly diverse group of people, I also recognize that the stereotype of being slovenly and unkempt isn't entirely without merit. In all parts of life a certain level of appropriate dress and hygiene is insisted upon and when people in our community fail to meet that general standard it reflects poorly on all of us. If even a few people opt to wear a belt, buy better fitting pants, lose weight, etc.; it's all the better for all parties involved. Maybe a few people were able to figure out who these people were if they recognized themselves in the background or something or went all super detective because they had to find out exactly whose ass crack that was, but I haven't seen anything anywhere with people actively talking about the specific people involved. Here are some definitions of bullying:
"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others."
"Bullying is a form of aggressive behavior in which someone intentionally and repeatedly causes another person injury or discomfort. Bullying can take the form of physical contact, words or more subtle actions."
"Bullying is unwanted, aggressive behavior among school aged children that involves a real or perceived power imbalance. The behavior is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time. Bullying includes actions such as making threats, spreading rumors, attacking someone physically or verbally, and excluding someone from a group on purpose."
None of what happened there fits the definition for me.
WotC has no obligation or duty to "protect their player base from negativity".
[–]sirgog 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
Glad to see that this incident is now over.
The guy was a jerk on one occasion, which doesn't make him a jerk for life - lots of us have done worse things. Happy to welcome him back to the community.
[–]Blastmaster29 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
Yet zach Jesse is still banned.
[+]dFeathers スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Are you seriously comparing "buttcrack dude" and a convicted sex offender?
[–]Blastmaster29 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Considering zach is someone I know personally, and a friend of mine, yes I am. I don't believe people should be punished for things done outside of the game 10 years ago. Especially when they have turned their life around and been nothing but a positive person in not only the magic community but society itself. But the mods have banned discussion on the topic in this sub so I shouldn't say anything else.
[–]klapaucius -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
He got the /r/magictcg mods to say "no disrespectful comments about a rapist allowed", you should be proud of him.
[–]disorder_unit 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 13時間前 (0子コメント)
Good news :]
[–]TameFoxes 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 12時間前 (4子コメント)
Fasstastic!
[–]gruulsloth 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 11時間前 (3子コメント)
Would fantasstic not have been easier?
[–]phenylanin 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
Or we could go hellbent for relevance and use "fat-asstic".
[–]TreeRol 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
BANNED!
[–]mriddell001 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 10時間前 (11子コメント)
Not the popular opinion in the thread right now but:
One would hope he's learned his lesson and doesn't harass more of the Magic community. Good luck going forward, let's hope it doesn't happen again.
[–]falicor 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 7時間前 (8子コメント)
I hope he learned his lesson too.
Taking pictures of people unable to keep their ass crack in their pants is hilarious and should be done at will on a single knee.
Because you should keep your ass in your pants.
And take a shower.
Seriously.
Have all my upvotes. Please. This shit is just gross man, people need to take better care of how they present themselves.
[–]mriddell001 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
I'm an L1 and if this behavior was happening in my LGS, I would not treat harassment so trivially as you suggest. Magic is supposed to be a welcoming environment, not one where people will be mocked and disparaged for any factor.
[–]Rakyn87 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分前 (0子コメント)
I'm actually legit confused what you are trying to say. Are you saying you would aggressively have people fix their pants so they aren't exposing the public to their sweaty hairy assholes, literally, or that you would stop someone for taking pictures if they did.
Because honestly I wouldn't blame you for the former in the least.
[–]JAWISH -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I would avoid you LGS like the plague if a bunch of people didn't have the common courtesy to keep there pants at an appropriate height
[–]mriddell001 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I happily communicate with my players. If you're frightened of public speaking or confrontation in general, I would encourage you to talk to a judge instead to resolve these cases. No player has a license to harass any of my players and I don't welcome that behavior at all.
[+]atlantic698 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
i hope he took this time to hit the gym or hell be dead by 30. a morbidly obese guy making fun of other fat guys is amusing but he probably needs to get his priorities in order and stop eating Twinkies
[–]Mandinder 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
That morbidly obese guy didn't hang his ass out for everyone to see.
[–]locustPLAGUE -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
There was never any harassment. Relax.
[–]fadingthought 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前* (0子コメント)
Dude should set up a booth to sell belts at the next GP.
[–]not_anyone 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh lord, hide yo cracks, hide yo fedoras and hide yo magic cards too, cuz they are taking pictures of everything out here.
[–]shoopmywhoopRLB 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (13子コメント)
Can someone catch me up?
[–]ButchTheKitty 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
He posed for pictures next to peoples exposed butt cracks, said people and people in the community got butt hurt, and his butt got hit with a ban.
[+]thedoh スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13ポイント-12ポイント-11ポイント 7時間前 (11子コメント)
He was banned for mocking/bullying people attending GPs on twitter and Reddit. For a long time the most popular post on Reddit was this guy's, making fun of people at tournaments.
Obviously, Wizards wants to discourage that behaviour.
[–]Mandinder 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 6時間前 (7子コメント)
I would also be keen to discourage wearing inappropriate clothing to a GP. Every person with their ass hanging out at a tournament should be asked to put on appropriate clothing or be removed from the venue.
[+]klapaucius スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 5時間前 (6子コメント)
Inappropriate clothing? You realize that the people in the pictures were wearing jeans/cargo pants/etc and it was just how they were sitting, right?
[–]Mandinder 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 4時間前 (5子コメント)
If your pants don't cover your ass when you sit, you are wearing the wrong pants.
"My pants aren't inappropriate, my dick just hangs out when I stand"
You're going to a tournament where you are going to sit for hours. You are expected to choose the right clothes, and if the clothes and you've chosen don't cover your ass, you have not chosen wisely.
[–]BobMcFail 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
Mocking and bullying is a bit harsh for posing next to your exposed buttcrack and there werent even faces shown as far as Im concerned, furthermore it was only 1 GP.
[–]klapaucius -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
People actually did get recognized from the photos. They were at a Grand Prix and people who knew they were at the GP could tell who they were from the clothing and body shape.
[–]shoopmywhoopRLB 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh I didn't know that was this guy
[+]DaemonNic スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
And nothing of value was gained.
[+]SarahPMe スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17ポイント-16ポイント-15ポイント 13時間前 (7子コメント)
Based on his twitter and the reason for his initial banning, it doesn't really seem like a huge boon to the community for him to return, but being banned from Magic seems crappy and I don't think his initial actions were necessarily malicious, so I am happy for him, sorta.
[–]OB1FBM 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 12時間前 (3子コメント)
My twitter is almost 100% satire. I rarely use it meaningfully.
[–]ButtsendWeaners[S] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
Much love
HH
[–]Neighbour-Totoro 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Whats Hull Kogan doing in the Impact MTG Zone?!
[–]VERTIKAL19 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
I dont know what you mean by this HH, but Heil Hitler seems a bit offensive
[+]OnSpeakerCrab スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
Good on you to judge someone based on their Twitter profile. And props to the people that made this the top comment at the time.
[–]klapaucius 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Good on you to judge someone based on their Twitter profile.
We're talking about someone who mocked people on the internet for being fat and sitting wrong.
[–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 6時間前 (34子コメント)
Never should have been banned in the first place, his banning left a huge stain on MTG among adult players as a community that is too sensitive, PC, and can't take a joke.
[–]jakebeleren 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 5時間前 (9子コメント)
In the future try replacing "politically correct" with "trying not to be an asshole" and see if you understand better.
[–]Wilhelm_Screamer -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 4時間前 (7子コメント)
Pc is not that at all.
[–]klapaucius 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (5子コメント)
And yet people are calling Wizards "too PC" for punishing that guy for being an asshole.
[–]nick012000 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
He wasn't being an asshole, he was bringing attention to a serious hygiene and image issue the community faced. Unfortunately, rather than dealing with it by revising their tournament rules to include a reasonable dress code, Wizards decided just to ban him instead.
[–]Wilhelm_Screamer 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Which they were being
[–]jakebeleren -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
That's exactly what it is.
[–]worldchrisis 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 5時間前 (23子コメント)
His actions left a huge stain on MTG among the general public as a game only played by disgusting neckbeards. He completely deserved what he got.
Nobody on this subreddit understands PR.
[–]Crossfiyah 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Uhh...
...That is mostly true, at least at that level.
If people don't want to be perceived as that....don't be that?
If you don't give a shit how you're perceived, then fuck it. More power to you. But you can't get angry if someone calls you out on something you are actually doing.
LSV was unhappy with his health so he lost a ton of weight. It's hard, sure. But you don't even need to lose weight if you don't want that perception.
Just shave, bathe, and wear a belt.
Are those three things really such an unreasonable expectation to have of someone before they attend a major event for a hobby they love?
[–]worldchrisis -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
No I don't think they are, and I'm not arguing that they aren't. I'm arguing that Blair's actions were mean-spirited and portrayed the game worse than it actually is in reality.
[–]Crossfiyah 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
It did nothing to portray the game either way.
It portrayed (largely accurately) a portion of its most hardcore enthusiasts.
You can't fix problems if no-one points them out, and that's what he was doing: bringing attention to a problem, so that it could be fixed.
[–]worldchrisis -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I think that's giving him way more credit than he deserves. I thought he was pretty obviously just publicly making fun of unsuspecting people.
[+]Stalgondo[🍰] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 5時間前 (13子コメント)
PR is friendlier term for Propaganda. He simply photographed what was there, and that's part of the humor.
MTG isn't some ill-defined social movement that people can project their own meanings onto. Its a card game, we don't need PR.
[–]worldchrisis 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 5時間前* (7子コメント)
The stigma that Magic players are gross neckbeards hurts the ability of the game to attract new players.
And PR is not just Propaganda, it's how you present yourself and what you're representing to the larger public.
[–]klapaucius 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (4子コメント)
It's a card game, we don't need people harassing people at public events by taking creepshots so the internet can laugh at them.
[–]Stalgondo[🍰] -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
Taking photos of people at public events is not harassment. If you intend to define it that way, perhaps you should look around and notice the security cameras watching you at every public event, or the myriad of people taking pictures to commemorate their visit.
The comedic value and intent of his images does not change their nature, as both of those are subjective concepts and thus cannot be used with any degree of accuracy to measure what is or is not "harassment".
[–]klapaucius 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
So in your mind there's no difference between a security camera and running around taking photos of people's asscracks to make fun of them. You don't see any sort of distinguishing characteristics that make those different actions.
[–]Stalgondo[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Again, which part is a distinguishing factor for you? Is it the photograph itself? If so, photos are a common occurrence - there is no expectation of privacy at public events. Is it the intent of the person taking the photograph? If so, you cannot know their intent, you can only guess - and thus your methodology is entirely your own and cannot be prescribed as a solution.
You seem to be taking a lot for granted. Please tell me which specific empirical factors change the situation to one of harassment.
[+][deleted] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
His actions painted MTG as an uptight little kids game with no sense of humor about itself that will never be taken seriosuly by anyong over the age of 16
Nobody on this subreddit understands adults.
[–]jsmith218 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
Welcome back!
[+]thedoh スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
I wonder if he's learned his lesson.
edit: Judging by post history the answer is no.
[–]7thPwnist 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
What lesson is that? That the DCI is a total joke?
[–]evildave_666 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 13時間前 (0子コメント)
Looking forward to his next pictorial...
[+]ABRAXIS228 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
He posed next to peoples exposed asscracks and got banned ? People have No sense of humor
[–]UberCorp 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
I believe the reason they gave was for harassment.
[–]ABRAXIS228 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Ah ok
[–]hellofriendo1234 -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Like other nerd communities, MtG is full of hypersensitive busybodies
[–]CoolybutnotFooly -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
You should make a Calendar
[–]powereddeath -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
YESYESYES
[–]The_Last_Raven 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間前* (0子コメント)
http://i.imgur.com/FYq7M.gif%20
Edit: This is not an endorsement of Sid Blair or the post. I just think Daniel Bryant is funny.
[+]blekkja スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 11時間前 (3子コメント)
Fantastic news. I look forward to seeing what act of bullying he does first.
[–]klapaucius 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
You'd think MTG players would be more anti-bully, but apparently they love harassment as long as it's not directed at them personally.
[–]OssiansFolly -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Hopefully telling some smelly unkempt nerds to take a fucking shower and use deodorant before going out in public.
[+]cromonolith スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 13時間前 (0子コメント)
Nice.
[+]mmrnmhrm スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
'bout time
[+]kazog スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Hail the king!
π Rendered by PID 20501 on app-166 at 2015-09-14 19:20:29.976686+00:00 running bd5c0a2 country code: JP.
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