Update: I smashed a window to save dog from a hot SUV. It wasn't a real dog and the SUV belongs to a cop

Ramady · 1日前

I have a lawyer who told me not to talk about it anymore right now.

Well you're off to a good start, aren't you?

MaximumAbsorbency · 1日前

I have a lawyer who told me not to talk about it anymore

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Nowin · 1日前

How many cases in Arizona do you think are going on right now involving a pretend dog in a cop car? One. Yours. Delete this post.

Kovarian · 1日前

Listen. To. Your. Attorney. Don't. Talk. About. It. Period.

RocheCoach · 1日前

Dude, seriously? Delete this post. What's the matter with you?

demyst · 1日前

Thank you for the update! I'm very glad that you have an attorney. Follow their advice, and, if it is advised . . . update us when its all over!

ndjs22 · 1日前

Sometimes I feel like a lot of people just don't understand the kind of crap I put up with as a pharmacist with patients who just don't listen. Then I see posts like this. Stay strong lawyerbros.

matta997 · 1日前

$300 for tempered glass sounds fair, especially if it's OEM. My car was rear ended at 4mph and the PLASTIC bumper was $800 to replace.

NoSpicyFood · 1日前

In this thread: People accusing OP of talking about what happened by telling us the public information as it pertains to his arrest.

Kharmasutra · 1日前

This is hilarious

aarghj · 1日前

just remember…

Police officer’s sole job is to look for possible crimes, or put another way, any possible reason to make an arrest on every person they come in contact with.
just because you are arrested for a particular reason has no bearing on whether or not you are a: guilty of it, or b: actually going to be indicted for it by a district attorney.
You will get your day in court, you have a 911 recording where you are clearly concerned for the welfare of an animal, and you the law on your side. Arizona : A.R.S. § 13-2910 :: It is illegal to leave an animal “unattended and confined in a motor vehicle when physical injury to or death of the animal is likely to result.”

The criminal damage statute!

13-1602. Criminal damage; classification A. A person commits criminal damage by:

Recklessly defacing or damaging property of another person.

Recklessly tampering with property of another person so as substantially to impair its function or value.

Recklessly damaging property of a utility.

Recklessly parking any vehicle in such a manner as to deprive livestock of access to the only reasonably available water.

Recklessly drawing or inscribing a message, slogan, sign or symbol that is made on any public or private building, structure or surface, except the ground, and that is made without permission of the owner.

Intentionally tampering with utility property.

I don’t know that it could be said that you recklessly damaged the property considering the intent of the action.

Here is your get out of jail free card:

13-205. Affirmative defenses; justification; burden of proof

A. Except as otherwise provided by law, a defendant shall prove any affirmative defense raised by a preponderance of the evidence. Justification defenses under chapter 4 of this title are not affirmative defenses. Justification defenses describe conduct that, if not justified, would constitute an offense but, if justified, does not constitute criminal or wrongful conduct. If evidence of justification pursuant to chapter 4 of this title is presented by the defendant, the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act with justification.

B. This section does not affect the presumption contained in section 13-411, subsection C and section 13-503.

Bookkeep · 1日前

but I have a lawyer who told me not to talk about it anymore right now

Yet that internet karma is just so valuable.

I can see how you were confused about a cardboard cutout now.

I still feel really stupid

Good.

Powdered_Donuts · 1日前

Also maybe they will agree to drop the charges if you quickly pay restitution

Powdered_Donuts · 1日前

Do t feel bad the cop is a dick for pressing charges and not just letting you pay

xkrysis · 23時間前

Seems like the reasonable thing would be for you to pay to fix it rather than giving the lawyers 10x that amount to solve it in court. Cops are being dicks here.

mywan · 1日前

Do not delete this or the original post, as it could constitute spoliation of evidence and another charge. Do not respond to me or anyone else here. I'm only mentioning something you can bring up to your lawyer, which STAYS between you two at least till it's over.

You will naturally need to agree to pay for the broken window. On the issue of Criminal Damage part of the defense can include an 'even if' defense that argues that 'even if' you are guilty of Criminal Damage there is a lot of case law you can 'minimally' violate the law to protect others. A dog shouldn't be any different.

For instance, an affirmative defense to jaywalking could be that you went to remove a child standing in the road in imminent danger of being run over. You may even kill someone to save yourself or another person from an imminent danger of being killed by an attacker. Of course you can't use more force, or violate any law, in excess of what is required to defend your own, or someone else's safety.

Your lawyer should handle the relevant case law.

DivinePrince2 · 1日前

I just want to know /why/ someone would have a cardboard cutout of a dog in their car. Like, only freaks take cardboard cutouts with them.

Based on that alone I'm pretty sure this whole thing is faker than a porn star's breasts.

muppity · 20時間前

/r/bestoflegaladvice

DabblesInPacifism · 1日前

OP deserves whatever he/she gets, both for not listening to their lawyer and more importantly for being the kind of asshole that thinks they have a right to destroy people's property. Seriously, what the fuck gives people like you the balls to think that you have a right destroy someone's property when you obviously had zero awareness of the situation. You couldnt even tell it wasnt a real dog, how could you posibly have enough information to justify breaking in? Even if it was a real dog you clearly didn't know what this person was doing or how long they had been gone.

A guy leaves his dog in the car for a few minutes and that gives someone like you the right to break in to the car and pat yourself on the back like you are doing something positive? Man, fuck people like you OP.

Listen to your lawyer.

Keep the down votes rolling.

AshcanMan · 1日前

If you had sincerely apologized when it happened and offered to pay for replacement then and there, do you think that maybe, just maybe, they wouldn't have come after you the next day?

If I recall from reading the original post, neither of these acts were done.

Zimmonda · 23時間前

This is going to get downvoted to hell but societies double standard for pets bugs me, either they're property and the owners can do whatever they want, or they're a weird third class citizen/lifeform and then we gotta talk about all the socially acceptable but fucked up things that people do to pets like cutting their balls off or shaving them or putting clothes on them or restricting their diet/movement. Like morally how is locking a cat in a 600 sqft aprtmnt not also seen as terribad ?

SkyRunnerr · 1日前

Basically. You might be able to get out of the criminal charges. Breaking and entering. Or criminal mischief. Or whatever. Because technically that is what you did. Even though you did not steal anything, you broke and entered a vehicle that was not yours. Your defence is you claim to have acted in good faith to try and save the life of an animal. However there was no animal in the vehicle. Your defence will be to try and prove you believed there was an animal present in an empty vehicle. Which in my opinion, you already lost this case. The fact that the vehicle was empty basically proves your at fault. My bet is that your lawyer may have you pleed guilty to the charges and try to reduce your prosecution as much as possible.

Another possibility is that you pleed insanity and you have to go to some kind of rehabilitation in place of or in addition to what the court decides. Why? You imagined something that was not there.

My best bet is you will definatly have to pay for the repairs of the car you vandalised. This is a must. I hope you do not try to get out of this sinoly because you admitted you were wrong in the above and previous posts. And its the right thing to do in this situation since you acted without thinking.

Next time i suggest doing the right thing and simply calling the police and letting them handle it. When people try to act in place of law enforcment or paramedics, all hell will break lose and shit will hit the fan.

Yes, there are laws that allow a good Samaritan to act to save a life. However, there needs to be obvious signs of distresses or iminant danger for this to be true. Imagining something that is not there really doesnt fall under this category.

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