Neighbours behaving badly

lucky420 · 4日前

Fuuuuuuuck. This kind of shit is turning me into a crusty burner. I don't want to be crusty and punchy.... On the other hand I camped at 7 & G. El Pulpo was camped kitty corner, inflation Station across from us and a great non theme camp across the other side who were very active. Had great neighbors! This is the kind of thing that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy...

zulelord · 4日前

It is official, I am crusty now. Here are the low-lights from our camp (HPZ 6:30 D corner)

Bike stolen from our camp Tuesday night
Bullhorn stolen from our artcar
Jacket stolen from our artcar
Caught girl pissing in front on my rv. Porta potties were about 100 ft away
Watched a guy ram a girl on his bike. Tore off his fingernail. He started calling the girl a twat. It was clearly his mistake.
So. much. moop.
Each year I hand out glow necklaces to darkwads. This year I had 150 to hand out. Several people flat out turned me down and refused them. dafuq?

I'm thinking about taking a year off

madsci · 4日前

Worst neighbor experience ever. I believe the camp behind us was called Badass Buddha, around 8:50 and J. One of their camp members, an Israeli named Balls, climbed into the tent of one of our people while she was drunk and asleep (after trying repeatedly to touch her breasts at our bar) and had to be hauled out by several of our camp. He came back shortly after and had to be taken out again. It took two talks from a ranger and a visit by sheriff's deputies (with a trespass order) to get him to stay out of our camp.

During the week they pointed their speakers at our camp and blasted shitty trance music all night long, and then left a gigantic pile of garbage including broken glass and a 5-gallon piss jug.

Edit: Photos I took to forward to Placement.

Edit2: To clarify things, since someone on their FB page is saying they had a restraining order against me. I took my friend to Outpost Tokyo to file the report and the ranger came back with us to talk to Balls. After a long talk, Balls immediately ran back over to my friend and tried to talk to her again, with the ranger still there. He had another talk and decided to escalate it to the Sheriff since it was clear he wasn't getting through to the guy. The deputies had a long talk with him and it ended with a trespass order against him saying that he'd be arrested if he came back to our camp. He in turn got a trespass order against my friend out of spite, preventing her from going in their camp - not something she was likely to do.

They're also claiming the trash wasn't theirs, so I grabbed a few pre-burn pictures from their page showing the same items before they were dumped.

Edit3: Ranger Magnum is a badass and a rockstar, just sayin'.

Edit4: Going to keep making updates here for the moment since whoever is posting as Bad Ass Buddha is deleting replies and this is the stickiest place I've got for the moment. He says "this guy had a problem with his slut wife and one of our camp member." I'm assuming he's talking about me here, despite me not being in any sort of relationship with her other than being friends - though I'm totally going to start calling her my slut wife. She'll think that's hilarious. This was never a matter of competition between two guys. This guy came up to the bar and only wanted to know if her boyfriend was in the tent at that moment. I made the mistake of saying that her boyfriend wasn't even on the playa. His look when I said that is the reason I grabbed the hammer.

Edit5: Apparently they've reported my imgur album. I've re-uploaded the images to Flickr, minus the ones taken from the now-private Facebook group in case there's any sort of privacy issue there.

doctor-yes · 4日前

Wow, those are all horrible. I don't feel compelled to apply radical inclusion to folks like that. It's moved down below principles like civic responsibility for me, in terms of importance.

lenburneo · 4日前

As a burgin this year, I was at a bit of a loss with what to do with the eight year experienced burners camping next to me. They left stuff out all week -- beer cans, glow sticks, solar lights and ashed on the playa. I cleaned up what I could but since I was on Burner Express, my ability to absorb trash was limited.

I gently reminded them that their friends left stuff behind on the day they left and they did take everything with them, but how do you encourage better behavior during the week leading up to departure?

They were otherwise very nice and great to hang out with, but it was hard to ignore all the blowing moop.

*edited for spelling

Deckard256 · 4日前

This has been going on for some time. It was at my third burn in 2008 that I first got shafted by about eight people from Denver with 10 bags their trash. I ran into them a few months later and called them out on it, they looked dumbfounded when I did, but they didn't have a bag of their slop explode on them when trying to toss it. They scattered like roaches when they got shamed. People think that this behavior is OK because they pull it in the default world. And this is where building community becomes important, because it's through community that we can keep assholes like this accountable. I'm sorry for your experience, friend, but don't let it get your discouraged, rather, let it be a lesson that just because you see something awesome at the burn, others often don't get it at all. Keeping up with principles is the solution to those people.

MuuaadDib · 4日前

Just like everything, it will be ruined over time by people being people. Regional burns I suspect will be the way to go in the not too distant future, not as popular not as big smaller and more family.

mezz · 4日前

On our way home after the burn we stopped at a diner in Sparks for breakfast, and there were some other burner cars parked there. When we left, some bags flew out of our trailer and we stopped to grab them and find out what happened (everything was secured with straps). Turns out some burners threw their trash bags into our trailer on top of ours, and it wasn't immediately obvious because they were the same type of trash bag. I had to tie their gross wet bags and strap everything down again, and then haul it all hundreds of miles and throw it away. Unbelievable.

cosby · 4日前

Had a campmate threaten me with violence after the Burn while in Reno. Apparently transporting his shit, building a swamp cooler, giving him a tent when his didn't work and setting up said tent with my gf without his help because he was busy pouting. Then he didn't bring my tent back when he finally got his fixed just wasn't enough for him. Left my tent out and didn't put it back into the bag because "I don't know how to fold it." Etc. etc.

savax7 · 4日前

After this year I am officially a grumpy, crusty burner. So many people with no lights on their bikes or themselves. I worked so fucking hard making sure my bike was lit up like a Christmas tree and I see packs of darkwad sparkleponies gallivanting around like they're the only thing on the playa.

I already told the story of the girl who complained I put too much ice in her drink. What I didn't say was that she also complained about how we only had ginger ale and no cranberry juice. Dafuq?

I had another girl complaining that she had a cut on her finger and lost her band-aid. What the fuck do you want me to do about it? Amputate?

We also had every obnoxious asshole who can't handle their drugs/alcohol on our art car. If you can't follow the orders "don't sit on the railing" or "don't grab the ropes" guess what? Get the fuck off our art car. I'm not here to babysit your dumbass.

Every single fucking feather, every single fucking glowstick, every single adhesive jewel that fell off, I HAD TO PICK UP. Burn night I had to walk around our art car, just picking up moop.

I kept dodging darkwads and adopted screaming "FUCK YOUR BURN" a whole bunch. For every bad interaction I had with some fucktard, I had a good one with a group of people who were just down to cruise with us and drink. My Captain and crew pour our blood and sweat into building The Monaco for you, and while we did get a lot of people who were thankful just to climb aboard and take some pictures, the 10% that Mudclub is describing is going to ruin it for everyone.

I love Burning Man, but I fucking hate burners.

jimbo21 · 4日前

Sounds like the kind of things that should be reported to BRC Rangers - make sure you bring these issues to their attention!

flickerkuu · 4日前

I think we need to take a serious look of our out of country guests. I keep hearing over and over again about Brits and other Euros basically leaving shit and trashing the place, quite like the common practice during music festivals over there. People buy cheap tents/chairs and just leave them, because : lolz. This is ruining Burning Man, the Moop and lack of anything aside from fancy outfits and a lust for sound camps is killing the vibe.

CrucifiedKitten · 3日前

We had one set of neighbors that made us wait an whole extra day for their pizza give away. They tried making it up me with some spankings but their duct tape paddle was too tame and they don't rub it out after. Some of other neighbors had too long of a line for donut holes in the morning. Really 5 minutes? Come on guys!

Rotationation · 4日前

Camped next year to double-digit year Burners who had a shade set-up made entirely of EZ-ups staked to the ground with tiny stakes and what appeared to be string. Every time a windstorm blew through (which was often this year) another few bit the dust.

Also, half of our block appeared to be a parking lot for other camps.

And everything was flagged on by Saturday pre-event, it seemed.

Other than that, good neighborhood.

Gtraz68 · 4日前

If someone ropes off a block talk to placement. They will take care of it.

codemuncher · 4日前

Feel free to call the Black Rock Rangers. They can mediate and educate problems like this. And escalate if necessary.

LNT isnt just a phrase, it's the future of the event! Thank you so much for caring!

CSnarf · 4日前

Man, this thread is hard to read. I love my neighbors so freaking hard. God bless 4:30 & B.

FCB_TB · 4日前

One of our campmates had a trailer dropped for them. By the time everyone had left, and the trailer was the only thing there, 20 bags of trash had been piled up next to it.

Theycallhermeekal · 4日前

We had great neighbors for the most part! I was at savages 9 & I nd the only frustration I had was one of my neighbors on the J side started blasting psytrance at 5 am tuesday morning. I was certain that there was an art car parked directly outside of my tent but when I sleepily got out of bed to investigate it was just a couple extremely cracked out guys literally blowing speakers a block and a half away. Blegh.

yasserkhan1 · 4日前

had a goddamn fist fight at our camp. Burning man was indeed better next year. also, whats with all the dark wads?

Twisted-pixel · 4日前

for me the problem appears to be that the dance camps attract ravers...and ravers have never given a fuck about anything or anyone. They came to dance, get mashed of their faces and generally have no belief in the BM principles.

myiuki · 4日前

Trash dome. Really? That's terrible.

mallrat32 · 4日前

9:00 Portal checking in

We were camped next to Ego Trip who were very polite despite being a smaller scale sound camp. Their patrons on the other hand were terrible. On Friday or Saturday, somebody took a shit in front of our van and throughout the week, people were using an RV in our camp as a urinal. The leader of the camp did try everything he could to stay cool with us though.

On Saturday morning a camper from one of the camps behind us pulled up our rent stake (Playa staple) to get their car through. They never asked, nor did they replace it after they got through. They just drove away. Plus, when they were getting the stake out, it was about a foot from my wife's head.

Other than that, there were a few people in another camp near us that used our evap pond with out asking.

revolved · 4日前

I had some great neighbours, and was really sad to hear about all the trash left behind (at camps or on exodus on the roads). It was my first year, so I had nothing to base it on, but I did have to handled a seriously messed up individual on Saturday night. Had way too many drugs, i calmed him down, gave him a drink and a hug and sent him on his way. He then had a breakdown, followed me around and tried to invade everyones tent. Had to be physically evicted from our camp and notified the rangers - no words would penetrate his fog!

bahnder · 4日前

Here's a non-shitty neighbor setup just to make this thread less bitchy; we got in around 2p on Sunday and landed at 245/I directly on the corner between two sets of portos, learned quickly that the 230 set were the road less travelled, so that worked great. Our first burn in '13 we were around 930/J(ish), and wanted to check out the vibe on the other side since we never made it over there that year.

Had a long-time established camp of awesome folks across us at one side (BUI), and our immediate tent neighbors were a birgin couple from LA that were on-point about everything and were awesome, our other neighbor was a 12-year vet who was awesome, and directly kitty-corner inward we had a set of Brochellas who were decent enough, but their pop-up died in the Friday storm; my wife moved their cooler on top of the wreckage to at least keep it in place. Otherwise, no issues at all, except for the RV camp on our other side who we didn't interact with a single time due to the RV wall. Some big-buck rigs wound up going in place there, and seemingly always at 4am shining brights directly in our tent, but that barely qualified as an annoyance.

We did wind up leaving Saturday morning, so I can't speak for any moop, and I'm hoping to hell some dickwads didn't snag our space on Saturday and tear it up after we swept it multiple times before we rolled out.

heathenworld · 3日前

we were next to Ashram Galactica this year.. a camp that I've enjoyed before, but music WAY too loud WAY too late for middle of a neighborhood.. and their crowd of wasted ravers was a hassle. Monday night one of our campers found a girl taking a dump outside his trailer, and others peeing various places. Talks with camp leaders and rangers changed nothing. A fence made of plywood, extra fabric and trash fence at least kept the trashed ravers out of our camp rest of the week. AssRam Galactica (our name for them) would fit right in with bigger sound camps, but I never want to camp next door again.

OverlyPersonal · 3日前

2:30 and I, had a neighbor with a massage parlor setup. Seemed older, maybe in his fifties or sixties, no clothing to speak of. He had a visit from the Rangers early in the week and we were asked to warn women away from going into his setup. It wasn't an issue because he stayed closed up all week, but we did put up a "creeper ->" sign when he reopened on Saturday. Otherwise we had some great neighbors and loved the hood, even if we were the last placed camp for blocks and it was mostly suburban quietness.

esqueish · 3日前

Really minor, but to the art car living next door which beeped/chirped every 12 seconds for the entire burn? I wonder if you have any idea how close you came to having your speaker wires cut.

chickenbarf · 4日前

Did the 8&L location happen to have a truck with a portapotty on the back? If so, I know exactly what you mean.

Smcookie · 2日前

This shit makes me so mad, it makes the last memory of the wee so shitty for so many. We raked and mooped well outside of our camping area, I really hope some fuckhead didn't pullin after we left.

the_real_xuth · 4日前

As to the parking lot I have a couple of thoughts on this:

yes I know that it's technically not supposed to happen
however many of the placed camps literally are not given enough space. Placement seems to assume a homogeneous mixture of public space/art and people but the village I've spend much of my life as a burner associated with is rather art heavy and it is literally a choice of parking cars or getting rid of over half the art (and the personal tent space is so crowded that it's difficult to walk through in the daylight while sober let alone drunk in the dark).
nobody wants to camp immediately adjacent to the portapotties anyway so that makes for a good parking lot space.

CrispyLiberal · 3日前

I've never been to BM and this thread is turning me off. I know I won't be part of the problem if I go, but it looks like I missed the best it was going to be.

Bombasshats · 2日前

Hey-yo,

I'm considering going to my first burn in 2016. I know I'm a virgin/newbie but I'm planning on being super prepared, engaged, thoughful and kind (I'm 30 and a good camper/outdoorsy person. Not 22 only concerned with looking sexy). My ONLY trepidation is the douchebags. They've ruined many a concert/music festival for me, but unlike those situations, where at the end I retreat home to air conditioning, a bed, shower and TV to melt away the frustrations, dealing with the elements on top of all of this might make me rage-y. Is it easy to navigate away from these types, or does going to a major event on the playa mean you will, inevitably, encounter assholery of the highest proportion?

Thanks in advance, hope to see you all next year! Not all of us noobs are bad :)

jonneywashere · 4日前

I camp on 9 & J. It was amazing burn. Amazing vibes. I don't know what all the others here are saying about each others. Sound like they been on another planet. LOL

Hope you guys relax and post amazing stories instead of Hate ones. We had one Hate camp and that's too much... haha

Photonanc6 · 4日前

For the sake of all, maybe administration should give in and order dumpsters for moop. I know it's not part of the history and culture, but it might be less stressful for serious burners so they don't have to contend with tourist garbage.

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