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[–]RedBullRyan [スコア非表示]  (52子コメント)

[–]lucidorlarsson [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

£2020?

IT'S A SIGN

[–]TheLeviathongLiterally Cameron [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Yes, it is the date where Jeremy will come back from the dead to rise to the throne of his almighty kingdom.

The Jezzarrection.

[–]ocharles [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Not to be confused with the Jezzerection, which is something entirely different.

[–]TheLeviathongLiterally Cameron [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't say they're totally different. They both involve inexorable rises for example.

[–]xJ-Babyx [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

You lucky bastard haha.

I imagine the bookies must be losing money hand over fist today with those initial odds.

[–]RedBullRyan [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Ladbrokes stand to lose £100k on it. I mean the losses for my shop were at least £5k alone.

Edit: The losses are £100k, not the payout. This is negative profit on a market, which is rare as the odds are set up and adjusted throughout an event to always draw a profit from a market, regardless of the outcome.

[–]Man-aliveLib Dem [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

£100k doesn't sound like much.

[–]interiorlittlevenice [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they probably make about 100 times that every time Britain fails to win the World Cup.

[–]PaleWolf [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Losses as in pay outs, or payouts minus the bets on other candidates?

[–]omaca [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A whole hundred thousand?

Oh wait... they've just made that amount again, off the backs of gambling addicts.

[–]Duke0fWellingtonTory | British De Gaullism [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Lucky bastard. First round is on you, eh.

[–]rappersdoGet back in the sea, you finned cunt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Holy shit

[–]Serex123VHEMT [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

You must be pissed for only betting £20.

[–]Man-aliveLib Dem [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

£2k profit - I reckon he/she will be pretty pleased.

[–]PokehFace [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

For sure. Nothing to be pissed off about with £2,000 heading your way.

[–]Man-aliveLib Dem [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Unless it's in 2 pence pieces. In one bag, dropped from about 50ft above your head.

That may deflate you somewhat.

[–]RedBullRyan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm chuffed with £2k. The minute I start thinking I should have bet more is the minute I start doing crazy bets I can't afford to back.

[–]Pressed_JuiceHave you wrecked a restaurant recently? [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Holy fuck, hats off to you mate.

[–]can_triforceLabour | /r/MHOCLabour [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How much of this will you be donating to Corbyn Labour? ;)

[–]LolworthCorbswellite ⚒ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

After champagne is paid for... £0

[–]I_done_a_plop-plopSuits without ties does not get my vote [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ooh you jammy sod. Nicely done. Mine's a Guinness please

[–]j1mb0b [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wow! Well done. Two questions:

1) What made you choose this?

2) What other bets have you got?

[–]aapowers [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Fuck a duck! When his candidature was announced, I said to my friends that I might put a bet on! Just a tenner or something.

I openly sighed with mild hindsight-driven disappointment as I tucked into my bacon sandwich...

[–]tomu86 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope you ate the sandwich correctly or the right wing media might vilify you! :)

[–]Kingy_whoRed-Green Labour [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Jeremy has been a force for redistribution, just by being elected.

[–]TimanfyaTrade Unions [スコア非表示]  (60子コメント)

RIP Greens.

[–]yo_radical_one [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is what I was thinking.

Lots of the mainstream new-Labour, Labour voters will move to the Tories, but lots of radical leftists from say the Greens and SWP will move into the Labour camp.

[–]taboo__time [スコア非表示]  (32子コメント)

Is Jezz a climate skeptic?

EDIT No.

[–]samloveshummus [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

No, I think the person you're replying to is referring to the fact the left wing voters are going to come back to Labour from the Greens.

[–]wjoe [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

No, he has pretty strong environmental policies, closer to the Green party than New Labour. As a result of that, and his general left wing appeal, it's likely that the Green party will lose much of their support to Corbyn Labour, particularly the "protest votes" they picked up in the last election.

[–]taboo__time [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Yeah I can see a lot of Greens switching.

[–]Vandbg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am one - voted Green at the last election, joined the Labour party today (having voted as a £3 supporter).

[–]trunkatedelepha [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

He has some strong environmental policies, but also wants to reopen open the coal mines, which sounds confused at best.

[–]taboo__time [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

[–]signet6 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How would that work? Not letting any CO2 be released into the atmosphere? Recycling it into something else? Or is it a type of coal that releases little CO2?

[–]NoPyroNoParty#GreenSurge [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He doesn't. He suggested it's something to look at but nothing more than that.

[–]Pressed_JuiceHave you wrecked a restaurant recently? [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Good of Corbyn to mention Ed Miliband. Andy Burnham looks like he's about to cry.

[–]Anivia_is_not_kfc [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

He was heart broken :( maybe Corbyn will offer him a place as the shadow health minister as the current one resigned.

[–]Pressed_JuiceHave you wrecked a restaurant recently? [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I wouldn't be surprised if he has offered, Corbyn has even stated he would like Miliband back in the shadow cabinet as Energy secretary. It's just a matter of if they'd accept under leadership of Corbyn.

[–]M2Ys4UPirate Party UK [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Milliband said he'll stay on the back bench, after discussing it with Corbyn on Thursday.

[–]DriveIn8 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Burnham is still Shadow Secretary of State for Health (as of right now anyway), the guy who resigned was one of his underlings.

[–]bundleofantijoy [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Well, it's nothing if not decisive.

People have long been complaining about slimey careerists who say whatever they think they need to to succeed. It will be fascinating to see how the public at large responds to a leader who is categorically not that.

[–]TheLeftFoot-of-BobbySinn Féin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I really hope he doesn't fuck up. He might realise that he has to compromise on some of his principals to unite the party.

[–]OuijaTable🌹 Social Liberal [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Well, with a victory this insanesly decisive, we know it's a totally legitimate victory and not down to Tories for Corbyn or any such nonsense.

Lets see what happens!

Although I do thank Tories for Corbyn for all the money they gave to the Labour Party, I suppose.

[–]usrname422015 = worst year for centre-left ever [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Breakdown of results. He won decisively in all three categories. This is definitely not just Tories for Corbyn.

[–]beleaguered_penguin[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you remove any one category, he would have still won on the first round.

If you restrict it to just one category, he would have won on the first round unless you restrict it to just members.

If you restrict it to just members, he would have needed just 1,009 second or third preferences to be able to win. Nobody but Corbyn could have won in the second round.

That is one hell of a fine victory.

[–]Duke0fWellingtonTory | British De Gaullism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Christ, it wasn't even close.

[–]pandelon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

FIVE TIMES the number of votes from registered supporters as all the others put together! Decisive is almost not strong enough a term.

[–]Archybaldy [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

It's going to be difficult to mount a "tear labour apart" campaign with that big of a margin.

[–]20quid [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

It's a big margin of a very small section of supporters. As illustrated here.

If the voters decide to tear labour apart, then they will. There is no indication that the breakdown of Labour supporters is in any way similar to the breakdown of Labour leadership voters.

[–]Archybaldy [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yes but specifically talking about Labour infighting. It's difficult to have traction inside the party against Corbyn with that 60% margin. So the next step (after sorting out the mp's) is to look outward.

[–]AwsumoYou either agree with me entirely or you are an evil nazi [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

all the money they gave to the Labour Party

I very much doubt that the £million or so earned even paid for the cost of the checks on the legitimacy of new members.

[–]Suddenly_Elmo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Er, those checks were carried out by CLP volunteers, it would have cost them precisely nothing.

[–]CarpeCyprinidae [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even the positive cashflow effect (contributions paid upfront, salaries and consultants are paid in arrears) will have been beneficial to the party treasury. This will have been a costly quarter for them. Having an income stream defers the pressure.

[–]_Born_To_Be_Mild_ [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

Liz Kendal 4.5%. Ouch. Blairism is dead.

[–]JC5 [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

Sort of. I bet if Umunna had run in the place of Kendall he would have got a lot more of the vote, Kendall's just quite a poor politician.

[–]bottomlines [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I think she was hard done by actually. She's not that poor really. But she got painted with the "Tory" brush right from day 1, and it seemed to stick. But you could see in the debates that she definitely isn't a Tory, and all she was concerned about is that Labour have to WIN in order to counteract the Tories.

[–]TheThinker1Socialist. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh how glad I was to see Kendall get 4.5%. What an indictment to the centrism espoused by the likes of Blair. The easy part was winning the Labour election, the hard part of winning 2020 is just beginning. That said, for all calls of Corbyn being unelectable, I think he is the best for the job and he might just pull it off.

[–]Kobrag90 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I was genuinely worried she might be popular.

[–]_Born_To_Be_Mild_ [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The establishment really pushed her, to see her do so badly is not a good sign for them and the breadth of public debate. We're about to great things I never thought possible in the neo-liberal world.

[–]ThetonnI Miss Gladstone and Disraeli [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

She ran Blairism without Blair, which just ended up as an -ism devoid of meaning and effectiveness.

She ended up standing for nothing but electability without any convincing proof that she could deliver it.

[–]Cleddyf [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

As someone pointed out over at /r/worldnews, Labour is now led by Tom and Jerry. What a gift to the tabloids.

[–]LolworthCorbswellite ⚒ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Jesus Christ. They should've had a pact not to run together for that reason.

[–]EsoteriCola"Have you tried raise VAT and kill all the poor?" [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh this is Gold.

[–]Dr_Jre [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even better than the bacon sandwich debacle!

[–]TheInfernalRainOld Labour /Green (-7.5, -4) [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

Here's to proper, Labour principles!

[–]LolworthCorbswellite ⚒ [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

No need to be pessimistic! ;-)

But seriously - very well done. I really hope this works for Labour.

[–]labiaprong[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Do you say this while sniggering under the duvet?

[–]LolworthCorbswellite ⚒ [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Not at all. I don't always succeed but I try to be politically colour blind.

[–]CtrlFforMirror [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well that's the important thing. If you can at least be civil, regardless of your opinions/views, you show far more maturity than many.

[–]TheRadishBrosHeartless Young Conservative [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

That victory was a bigger landslide than expected! Say what you like about Corbyn's policies, he's a fantastic speaker.

[–]gereth [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Not sure what to make of Corbyn. While I agree with him on many issues there is a lot that concerns me. Refusing to condemn the IRA, negotiating with Argentina over the Falklands, and some of his economic polices are the biggest problems Corbyn has for me.

[–]Rognvaldr14Modern Fascist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

His Foreign and Economic policies are really fucked up, but he's got 4.5 years before he puts anything in a manifesto, so let's see what happens.

[–]semajdraehsDemocratic left, pro-science, -9|-3.9 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I would have favoured negotiation with Argentina, the islanders should have their British Citizenship for sure, that island is British, but the whole full is really about potential oil around the island and that's something that you can't stake a claim to just by saying "well British people live on that island". It's like the whole South (?) China sea issue, let's stop pretending anyone gives a shit about the crappy islands, get round a table and hammer out an agreement over that oil.

IRA is a different matter, he should condemn them. He could even half dodge the question and condemn all sectarian violent terrorism in Ireland or just condemn the Prov IRA and Real IRA. I'm a little disappointed.

[–]LinuxMageEEA [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

As a Lib-Dem, I wonder if MP defections are coming our way?. Tim is known to be on the left of our party, and we are now wringing our hands with glee at the thought of gaining MP's from Labour.

[–]semajdraehsDemocratic left, pro-science, -9|-3.9 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Defecting from a dying party to a dead party isn't exactly brilliant thinking, I expect Labour defections to Tories more than Lib Dems and part of me wonders if there'll be any SNP defections to Labour.

[–]DriveIn8 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you want Chuka Umunna you can have him :P

[–]onbetamax [スコア非表示]  (23子コメント)

Uniting the party is now Corbyn's first and only priority.

[–]Jimmyjamjames [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

It will take a while, the first thing he will have to deal with is a New Labour rebellion which i will bet will happen within the week.

[–]xJ-Babyx [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Fuck them, he has complete and utter legitimacy to put true left wing principles on the map.

[–]sirjimmyjazzReunite Pangea [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

If history has taught us anything, it's that nothing good comes from a leader coming in, throwing out the existing cabinet and replacing them with people who only agree with them.

[–]OuijaTable🌹 Social Liberal [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Corbyn has said a dozen times he's got no intention of doing that. There isn't going to be a purge of blairites.

[–]sirjimmyjazzReunite Pangea [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know, I was just replying to the guy with the 'fuck them' sentiment.

Of course Corbyn isn't going to do that, he's not an idiot.

[–]KojimaForever [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Breakdown showed he had a majority in all areas, so that's a solid start.

[–]whencanistopI like pretty flowers[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Everyone who spoke there talked about uniting behind the leader. They're all very worried about it.

[–]JeremyCorbynUpCorbyn [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

I smile

[–]labiaprong[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hell hath no fury like a Corbyn scorned

[–]dodriohedron [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Andy Burnham looked like he was going to cry.

[–]sosr [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's his dreamy, long, maybelline eyelashes; he always looks like he's going to cry.

[–]Man-aliveLib Dem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Good to see you don't forget your roots and come to Reddit first to reap the praise.

[–]HPB-1.88, -0.97 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thy cup runneth over with 1st round votes, Annointed One.

[–]Nosferatii [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Labour Party Leadership Result

Jeremy Corbyn - 59.5%

Andy Burnham - 19%

Yvette Cooper - 17%

Liz Kendall - 4.5%

[–]thesmartestdonkey [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Go Corbyn! Progressives stand united!

Edit: auto correct and I have never been friends.

[–]mushroomchowYour Caustic Disillusioned Chum [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Good. Won't vote for him, but appreciate the fact that the left is now led by somebody with conviction.

[–]MattN92 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

appreciate the fact that the left is now led by somebody with conviction.

I appreciate the fact that the left is now led by somebody who is actually left.

[–]mothermilk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Now if only the right could do it too we could have politicians that are worth something and actually make decisions, rather then u-turning with every newspaper headline. I may resent everything Thatcher stood for but at least I respect her for standing for it.

[–]Quicks96Liberté, égalité, fraternité [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Blimey! I voted for someone who actually won something, its better than X Factor!

Vive la Corbynlution

[–]MimesAreShiteSpineless Social Democrat | Feminist SJW type | Corbyn Acolyte [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I know, I'm not used to this. I think I've backed the loser in every other thing I've voted in.

[–]tdrulesleft centre with nowhere to go [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I even voted for the wrong person to become head boy at school. This is a weird feeling.

[–]nikodante [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If nothing else, some truly interesting years to come.

[–]sockpupet999 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

£3 well spent.

[–]RightWing4DownvotesCameronesque [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I reckon he still might have won even if you hadn't voted, and you could buy a pint in Wetherspoon's with the money you saved.

[–]OuijaTable🌹 Social Liberal [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

He won decisively in all categories of voters. Entryism from left and right had nothing to do with his victory. Its totally legitimate.

[–]thebeesbollocks [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

God so much pessimism in this thread. For the first time in years we have a leader that stands behind his principles and isn't just spouting the same old PR bullshit. He might be divisive but at least he'll try and bring back real Labour values.

[–]Pressed_JuiceHave you wrecked a restaurant recently? [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm really looking forward to Wednesday now.

[–]usrname422015 = worst year for centre-left ever [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

They've actually done it. Fuck.

The only option

[–]pennyservices [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

A lot of Corbyn's ideas are straight out of Lib Dem manifestos of old. Remember when you used to opose tuition fees and nuclear weapons too?

[–]ivanspoemorange booker [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Time for the libs to retake the centre.

[–]CultureShipinabottleFreedom is participation in power [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

"C’est magnifique, mais ce n’est pas la guerre: c'est de la folie."

[–]FMN2014Small-c conservative | Euroscepticism/Federalism/STV/Localism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's beautiful, but it is not war: it is madness

For those of us who don't speak enemy.

[–]iTAMEi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I could google it but is this quote something to do with the charge of the light brigade?

[–]Aspley_HeathKipper4Corbyn [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

Jamie Reed a member of the shadow cabinet already quit the frontbench...its happening!

[–]imbasicallyhuman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Imagine wanting the ability to opt out of funding the armed forces, yet being forced to fund mining unions - even though you want green energy. The poor old man must be confused.

[–]20quid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Welp, I'm going to run off and start a turnip field. Prepare yourselves comrades, it's going to be a cold winter ahead.

[–]semajdraehsDemocratic left, pro-science, -9|-3.9 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

2020 Predictions (plz disagree like crazy, but don't downvote, they're all opinions):

  • Greens and TUSC face severe electoral damage (though they're not exactly healthy anyway)
  • A few labour MP defections to tories, maybe one to lib dems, a few go independent, lots of rogues. Don't think this "coup" will materialise though.
  • A mild drawback from the UKIP ex-labour voters, IF Corbyn plays his cards right
  • A medium drawback from the SNP ex-labour voters
  • Some Labour voter defections to the Lib Dems
  • Nothing to do with this, but I think win or lose the referendum UKIP will suffer a voter loss, either it loses it's primary purpose or it fails it's primary purpose. UKIP ain't a one-trick pony persay, but I think we can all agree a significant proportion of it's votes come from the issue it's named after...
  • Bounceback of Libdems to a certain degree

Overall I think who wins 2020 will actually be decided by the Chinese crisis right now, if the economy tanks and world recession hits again the Tories will face major setbacks (even though it's not their fault, troubles of the time are oft blamed on the ruling government), if we go into another serious recession I struggle to see the tories winning a majority.

If I had to place a bet I'd go for a coalition next government, Probably Tory/libdem, secondly Labour/SNP, possibly Tory/UKIP, Tory/DUP or Labour/Libdem.

Wildcards: War with ISIS, Terrorism, Syrian Civil War, The Irish Situation, Cameron's renegotiation with the EU.

[–]SavannaJeff[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I was hoping for some actual discussion, but instead there's nothing but shitposting.

[–]EmMeo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm completely there with you.

My personal opinion is the opposition isn't taking Corbyn as a serious threat, even though out of all the candidates he's the one that has the most opposing views. The fact he won by more than a landslide says a lot about the labour voters, but I wonder how much sway that will get with ex labour voters - and the population. They might see him as too radically left or whatever, but underestimating him as a threat seems like a very obvious mistake to make.

Either way, looking forward to future debates, and I think next election will be very fun to follow.

And on a final note, I love that Labour have voted in someone who apparently every single party loves (albeit for different reasons)

[–]ButlerFish [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He polls well among people who didn't vote at the last election and UKIP voters, which is both a blessing and a curse. A blessing because those people are a bit floaty. A curse because non-voters don't vote, and UKIPers will swing away again when he commits to staying in the EU.

[–]radagast60 [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

A reported sonic boom has been heard at Tory HQ. Turns out it was all the champagne corks popping.

[–]grabberfishPanarchist [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

No, the Tories have been warning against voting for Corbyn. That he is now leader, they will be worried, not celebrating.

[–]james_snuts [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No they will not be! They are absolutely buzzing about to this, capture the centre and everything right of it. They'll be in power a very long time.

[–]MyDeicideSome issues are too complex for common sense [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The overton window. It moves.

[–]Tomarse-5.88 -4.92 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah. I think all that Tories for Corbyn stuff was a bluff that has been called. A blairite opposition would have left a lot of common ground that has now probably gone.

[–]neutronstarnekoPragmatic Social Libertarian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Tom and Jerry :)

He'd never get my vote but I do like his style a lot.

[–]LolworthCorbswellite ⚒ [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Anyone else surprised that Cooper came 3rd behind Burnham?

[–]regenjimBottom of the pyramid Socialist [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It came out exactly how I expected it to, Yvette murdered her whole campaign when she started dropping the gender card left right and centre

[–]IjustwannastayinbedScum, apparently [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why did she think being openly racist towards the majority of her electorate and being sexist towards half her electorate will endear her? Answers on a post card.

[–]LordMondandoWishes the Children's Crusade the best of luck. [スコア非表示]  (51子コメント)

Islamism and Immigration.

That'll be what does him in.

I love how he shouts, and he's already attacking the media too.

Edit: Oh god, everything I wished for, he's already taking a hard stance on the refugees.

Edit 2: And he's making his offerings to the unions. BAKERS UNION REPRESENT!

Edit 3: Media bad, yuth good. Fucking hell this is magic.

Edit 4: First resignation from the front bench. https://twitter.com/jreedmp/status/642649854624309248

ONWARDS COMRADES.

[–]ColonelMolerat [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

To play devil's advocate -

In the resignation letter, Jamie Reed mentions his work on nuclear power. If Corbyn is staunchly anti-nuclear, I can understand why somebody dedicated to it would resign.

(Though the line 'Our party owes far more to Methodism than to Marxism' indicates a more general dislike of Corbyn's policies)

[–]lukasz90 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't put it down to a dislike of Corbyn's overall policies or his Methodist religion. Jamie Reed believes, like Corbyn and rightfully so, that he is there to represent his constituents in Copeland.

The Sellafield nuclear complex is the largest employer within Jamie Reed's constituency and Whitehaven (his hometown). The neighbouring constituency is Barrow-in-Furness, which is where Vickers the shipbuilders is based and the majority of nuclear submarines and warships are manufactured in the UK. The shipyards in Barrow-in-Furness are the largest in terms of workforce and are due to undergo expansion thanks to the Trident programme, increasing jobs in the region.

The cancellation of Trident, a switch away from nuclear power to 'green energy' and re-opening the coal mines will negatively affect job prospects in the west Cumbria region.

These are policies that Corbyn seems quite committed to and will clearly negatively affect Jamie Reed's constituents and the communities as a whole. It's plain to see that Jamie Reed couldn't possibly support a man who's policies are quite possibly going to ruin Cumbria, his constituency and his home.

[–]taboo__time [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Ireland's going to be weird.

I'm not clear on his position on climate change.

I wonder what he says on Russia?

I expect he'll be meeting up with all the New Left in Europe.

And yeah he's bound to say something odd on a Muslim issue.

[–]FMN2014Small-c conservative | Euroscepticism/Federalism/STV/Localism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ireland's going to be weird.

I'm not clear on his position on climate change.

I wonder what he says on Russia?

And yeah he's bound to say something odd on a Muslim issue.

Somehow I think he'll lay the blame at Britain.

[–]Money_on_the_table [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

What's he saying about immigration? I can't watch the speech ATM

[–]LordMondandoWishes the Children's Crusade the best of luck. [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Nothing directly, but he's coming out as very pro refugee. I imagine he'll try and frame the issue entirely as a refugee one. Which will go fucking amazing no doubt.

[–]creamyjoshyNordic Capitalism, Social Democracy, Proportional Representation [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it will go well. I'm not sure where I stand on this, but I feel the country is very divided on the issue, with little middle ground. Ripe to capitalize political points on.

[–]macrosocial [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Next up, no vote in support of bombing Assad, oops, I mean ISIS.

[–]borges136 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"We are going to reform ourselves as an Abba tribute band and continue this work in the future." wut?

[–]cdwood90 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's referring to a joke they made during one of their Hustings.

[–]itsjh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I really can't see Corbyn winning a GE.

[–]michaelceltic1888 [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

The only problem I have with this result is the potential for Corbyn to take votes away from the SNP. It's a great result for real Labour voters.

[–]grctest [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

If they knock off "we won't form govt/work with the snp" then they'd probably get even more seats. Imo it comes across as labour won't work with Scotland at all..

[–]michaelceltic1888 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

My point is that Corbyn is a great leader and I would definitely vote for him if I wasn't already swayed by the SNP. There's a lot of people that voted SNP as a protest to labour and might turn back now that they have a real, Labour man at the head of the party.

[–]grctest [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If this is truly a shift to the left, then you may be right.. But they've a lot to prove considering they've been red tories up until now..

[–]hollowcrown51Centre left I think [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't think it will. SNP supporters I know are saying it's a good result but they're still staunchly SNP. I expect this will be the same for most of Scotland.

[–]LaszloK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Kezia Dugdale should stop some of that

[–]naraic42Tired of Corbymania [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I personally am conflicted. On the one hand, this means five more years of Tory rule at the next election. On the other, the butthurt from some corners when Corbyn decisively loses will be immeasurably entertaining.

Of course, if Corbyn actually wins I might have to move country. I've no desire to live in a recreation of 1922 Germany.

[–]Aspley_HeathKipper4Corbyn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gosh the BBC are really going for this "where are all the women in the senior positions?" angle here..

[–]ashstronge [スコア非表示]  (48子コメント)

Has David Cameron stopped laughing yet? I bet he is just gleeful with this result.

[–]simsim44 [スコア非表示]  (42子コメント)

I wonder if he will be in 5 years. I'm not saying Corbyn could win outright, but a lot more sympathy has to be on his side after Osbourne's cut public services to the bare bone.

[–]ashstronge [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I doubt it, but who knows. A lot can happen in 5 years

[–]Azlan82 [スコア非表示]  (37子コメント)

Handing over the falklands to Argentinan control (50% he stated) is enough to put a huge amount of folks off him.