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[–]LuciaDenniardLove Squad 20ポイント21ポイント  (43子コメント)

Just ask them to give you a free corp rename, our corp originally had a racist ticker because our CEO wanted to be edgy, CCP gave us a free rename.

[–]kerbaal 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

The thing is....lots of things are offensive to someone. Hell, when I worked at a university we assigned usernames as first initial, last name truncated to 5.... we got a special request one day: "Please change this users username, as it is a swear in his native language".

Honestly, I never considered "Lynch" a particularly racially charged word itself, and only within the past few years found out some people found it particularly offensive. That is part of the issue.... all symbols exist in the mind of the beholder.

I feel like the most diplomatic solution is always the most bone headed; and exactly what OP proposes. Only statements clearly OOC should be subject to such warnings.

Saying the name of your corp without any statement indicating its anything else is an IC activity fully within a legitimate context.

If only one or a couple of people mentioned the real life events, they are the ones who should be spoken to about it. However, I do think an offer should be made to the corp to ask them "Do you want to change your name to something less likely to cause misunderstandings?"

However, there are a million ways to be offended so, I don't think that sort of change should need to be mandatory; just a courtesy to avoid friction.

[–]Vermino 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

But what if you gave those initials with that offense in mind?
OP's opening about WW2, oppression, nation pride and so much more makes it clear that those aren't just some random initials. They were chosen for a purpose.
I would certainly agree with your point if it turned out that OP just found out that DOKDO was a dispute while being brazilian himself.

[–]SunbeerI'm Fine and You 14ポイント15ポイント  (30子コメント)

Except our ticker isn't racist, and why should we change?

[–]OpenObDutch East Querious Company 11ポイント12ポイント  (29子コメント)

It's a provocation against another country. Is this really necessary in a game about spaceships?

I want to play a game. I want to shot at other player. I don't want to discuss about borders or get shittalk because stuff politicans do.

[–]KantasticMinmatar Republic 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bob akbur

[–]larikiaLove Squad 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

Why is it unacceptable to provoke people in this game? Provocations are 90% of what is in local chat outside empire.

[–]lairosenMinmatar Republic 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

Why is it unacceptable to provoke people in this game?

Provocation should stay on ingame issues. That's the same reason why you'll get banned if you make death threats that aren't explicitly ingame.

[–]jorbleshi_kadeshiPandemic Legion -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Death threats == Political discourse
Political feels == Actual issues to petition over
CCP == entity tasked with keeping everyone's feels intact

This is what /u/lairosen actually believes.

EDIT: I am so embarrassed for this community. We're willing to completely give in to trolls and the like ALL IN THE NAME OF FUCKING FEELS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. Fuck off back to Tumblr.

[–]StingAuer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

CCP doesn't seem to have a problem with provocation, insults, etc related to in-game things. They only have a problem when out of game things are brought into it. Call that guy you hate a filthy fucking goon all you want, don't go calling him a spic.

[–]Pirami -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

DOKDO = corp name. Definitely INGAME ISSUE.

[–]MrYakimoAngel Cartel 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

If it didn't mean anything outside of the game, you'd be right.

[–]Pirami -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It didn't mean anything actually. Because it is just a name of island in Korean.

[–]HerlockGallente Federation 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most MMO's, and I assume EvE works the same, have rules for naming shit within the game universe :

  • don't use insulting words
  • don't try to show up as something you ain't (like naming yourself CCP_Fuzzie)
  • don't use CCP IP names (like Alexandre Noire)
  • and don't use stuff that actually exist

IF you do so, you leave yourself opened to getting petitionned for it. And given the content of the QQ from OP, I feel it's well deserved because half his post is about his national pride...

[–]TROPtasticGoonswarm Federation 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally, that's why CCP cited political issues when discussing the name /s

[–]SunbeerI'm Fine and You 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

Is it? Really? This game has a long standing tradition of people from all different countries banding together with their country-folk, and giving their groups nationalistic names like "Red Alliance" and no one gave a shit, this isn't really any different.

[–]PixelBoomJump Drive Appreciation Society 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes.

[–]SartyvaWormholer 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

you should maybe set for a line first and not disprove the other members of your corp all the time "it's not a political statement" - "it's nationalistic like "red alliance""...seriously...

[–]SunbeerI'm Fine and You 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

Are the Russian groups making a political statement with an alliance name that is literally "Soviet Union"? No, it's just a name that ties them together, they aren't saying that the eastern block countries should be back under the iron curtain.

[–]alliancTriumvirate. 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

But there's nothing political about "Soviet union" or "red alliance". War's over.

There's seems to be a dissonance here between nationalistic and political. Notice how there aren't any alliances that are named after sensitive political issues. If CCP allowed an alliance called "free Crimea" then you would have a point. Similarly, if you wanted a nationalistic name, like finfleet, you could use something like daehanmingu. There's nothing wrong with that, because being nationalistic is not the same as being poetically insensitive.

[–]verbalwhale 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

But there's nothing political about "Soviet union"

Say that to anyone over 40 living in Eastern Europe, or hell, even their offspring.

[–]RaterthemanAmarr Empire 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is real slippery slope potential if we go on with this line of thinking.

[–]StopDoxxingMeThe Bastion 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or to a Pole at all.

The Polish are still pissed as a country.

[–]Popotuni 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Polish have been pissed for how many hundred years now? No one ever respects them. It's just part of life now.

[–]Rhydderch7734Test Alliance Please Ignore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not ongoing.

[–]smithsp86 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

War's over.

Tell that to Crimea

[–]CeleryStickBeatingScope Works 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

poetically insensitive

I don't care! e e cummings is my hero!

[–]jorbleshi_kadeshiPandemic Legion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow that cognitive dissonance has to hurt something awful.

Either allow ALL real-world political things or ban all of them.

I say allow them.

[–]AnslolScope Works 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The difference is none of the other groups have recently positioned carriers and played chicken over the yellow sea with fighters, destroyers, bombers, etc. Stop trying to compare the current situation with issues in the past like they are relevant to eve today.

[–]jorbleshi_kadeshiPandemic Legion 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a provocation against another country.

OH NO POLITICAL SPACEFEELS IN A SPACEGAME ON THE INTERNET.

Who gives a fuck? Why on earth do we want there to be a precedent where anyone can get their fe fees in a twist over some political slight then go crying to CCP to change someone's name?

Why does CCP feel that their intervention in political matters is warranted or desired?

Why do people support this kind of thinking?

If someone's corp name/ticker makes you mad, go blow up their spaceships or HTFU.

[–]Purity_the_KittyTest Alliance Please Ignore 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. If you hate them that much go fucking spacewar on them.

[–]LembaFC 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ffffuuuuck no. Never.

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