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[–]tryanather 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

The point is not homosexuality in itself, but deconstruction of a civilization by attacking and removing its prohibitions and its institutions.

If you look at moral specializations in European people, these can be divided into liberal, libertarian and conservative. Of these three only the conservatives have the moral intuitions to put limits on behaviour: this far, but no further. They are the only ones who impose a "membrane" on the culture (cell) and when nobody is providing this function (as today the conservatives are demonized, prohibited from acting), the cell eventually dies.

Curt Doolittle has done work on this and it's quite interesting. here is his most recent interview. Joe Biden tells us that Jews are behind it :).

[–]brianalmon 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly right. Homosexuality is another cudgel that can be used to chip away at the edifice of western civilization. Homosexuality, transgenderism, the cover-up of black crime and exaggeration of white racism, these are all variants of 2+2=5 and we are all Winston Smith.

[–]Elliot_Loudermilk 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

America is obsessed with identity.

American culture today can be summed up as "Be true to yourself." This translates to, "redefine and reshape your identity by pursuing your ever changing desires."

In the process, people revolt against the structures and institutions that previously defined them, and purchase goods and services that symbolize this transformation to the rest of society.

So religion, sexuality, gender roles, and even biology are on the hit list.

This is why all the hype exists around Bruce Jenner's transformation. "You think he is a he? Well you're wrong- he's a she. Look, she looks fabulous in that outfit ($), with those cosmetics ($), and those new plastic boobs ($$). So take note, she isn't defined by her biology and neither are you. Welcome to the 21st century."

This is why we see the crazies on tumblr calling themselves animal-kin. No reason to believe you were a fox in a previous life other than your own desire that it be so. It's madness-but it's all about identity.

In the absence of the institutions that previously defined man, we are free to pursue our desires, which are much more complicated than we currently understand, and sadly much less fulfilling.

[–]scottlapier 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true. I always saw the whole 'be true to yourself' and self-esteem movements as total horseshit.

Personally, I find it sickening that my generation has taken these cues and interpreted them the way we have. 'Be true to yourself' is supposed to mean be independent and don't let other use petty things to get in your way, not be different for the sake of getting the most attention or being the most 'oppressed'

[–]Atavisionary 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

I feel bad for conservakins who believe that this is what is going to destroy marriage. I mean, I agree with them that marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage only exists because it has a purpose of supporting intact families. Gays aren't intact families, thus marriage for them isn't legitimate. However, even if a small number of gays marry I doubt that would have much impact. Even if it did, marriage was destroyed already in the 70s with the anti-male laws that were enacted. You can't destroy an institution that has already been destroyed.

[–]TiredUnicorn 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah and half of marriages end in divorce, which is a huge costly mess. What's so great about marriage these days? I think it's a horrible idea for most people.

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    [–]MisterKlaw 56ポイント57ポイント  (20子コメント)

    Congress signs permission to "fast-track" controversial trade bill.

    Media goes ape-shit over confederate flag.

    Supreme Court gets off their collective ass and issues multiple historic rulings in the span of a week.

    Our government is better at sleight-of-hand than David Fucking Copperfield.

    [–]billyjoedupree 18ポイント19ポイント  (15子コメント)

    Yep, they released the gay marriage decision so close to the ACA decision simply to provide cover.

    [–]scottlapier 27ポイント28ポイント  (9子コメント)

    This truly has been one of the darkest weeks in the history of the republic.

    [–]billyjoedupree 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

    You mean the end of it. We can't even shrug this off. Roberts has tossed the rule of law aside for the rule of good intentions.

    [–]scottlapier 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You know what they say about good intentions...

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    [–]Joelasaur 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You realize that Roberts dissented on this decision, yes?

    [–]billyjoedupree 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Of course. He did his damage last year and Thursday. As chief justice he set the standard at intentions and feelings, not the rule of law. One can hardly be surprised when the rest of the court follows his pace.

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      [–]Guomindang 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

      How does that work? How is Congress supposed to get the Supreme Court to release a ruling to cover for their legislation?

      [–]billyjoedupree 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Congress has nothing to do with the two different (ACA yesterday afternoon, GM this am) SC decisions.

      [–]Guomindang 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Oh, I thought you were talking about the trade bill. It's probably true of the rulings.

      [–]trphardmode 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Also, the senate stalled the cloture vote until Supreme Court season. It wasn't the court timing that.

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          [–]trphardmode 47ポイント48ポイント  (11子コメント)

          I just think it's interesting how prevalent it is in our media and culture, especially when it's accepted only 5-10% of the population are gay or bi. There's something else going on here.

          The number is closer to 2-3%, the 10% claim was complete fiction.

          [–]UgUgImDyingYouIdiot 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The younger generations are full of lgbt types though, everywhere I go there are trannies and gays working. Literally everywhere, I think there's some hardcore social engineering going on. And I'm in the middle of Iowa.

          [–]stankbucket 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

          But 10% sounds so much better, just like 77 cents on the dollar and 97% of climate scientists.

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            [–]Kill_Your_Ego 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

            1.6% of the population identifies as gay. 0.6% as bisexual. So that's something like 2% of the population.

            [–]Cialis_In_Wonderland -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Do either of you have a source? At least one of you is incorrect.

            [–]Kill_Your_Ego 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

            http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

            Looks like I was slightly off from memory. Bisexual is actually at 0.7%.

            [–]namae_nanka 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Sailer had an article about how teens would put on something else on these surveys just for shit and giggles.

            Of course general public thinks that they are in the vicinity of 20-25% because how else they would be in so many TV shows!!

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              I want to go out on a tangent in order to bring up something significant. Today's result attests to where the court stands on the political rainbow. Cthulhu always swims left.

              Experts suggest that President Clinton will have the opportunity to appoint four new justices. The effects will be profound.

              [–]xwm 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Experts suggest that President Clinton

              Don't even joke about that shit. Short of flashbacks, this statement is terrifying.

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              It is terrifying, but it's happening. If I was forced to bet my net worth on the winner of the next presidential election, and I was given 3:1 odds on the Republican candidate, I'd still bet on Hillary.

              [–]bluedrygrass 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Don't look at her twitter page now if you don't want to puke. It really tells all that is needed about her.

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                [–]Randouem 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Just wanted to share this survey that shows just how dominant the prevalence in media is: "Out of 147.5 hours of original programming on ABC Family in the 2013-2014 season, 62.5 hours—42%—featured LGBT characters or story lines."[1] They aren't the only ones: MTV and FX were ahead with 49%, and behind were NBC at 37%, Fox at 36%, ABC at 34%, etc.

                [1] http://qz.com/274639/why-abc-family-is-a-leader-in-lgbt-inclusion-on-television/

                [–]Guomindang 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I think the answer is more political than cultural.

                Homosexuality is celebrated by the Left because it's an affront to their increasingly feeble enemies. The repudiation of "heteronormativity" represents a radical victory over traditionalism, so of course they would gloat about it. And by spreading this crusade to all aspects of society, they are further consolidating and signalling their dominance over it. And they have no shortage of status-obsessed allies who will constantly bring up the issue to signal how cool they are, as marketers have noticed.

                [–]nyrp 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                only 5-10% of the population are gay or bi.

                More like 2-4%. And they're not all lifers.

                [–]RunawayGrain 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

                It's going to be interesting to see if this starts to swing the US courts overall bias towards women back a bit. Generally all a woman has to do in a divorce is claim spousal abuse to win. So what happens when two women get a divorce, and both claim spousal abuse, since that has traditionally been the silver bullet?

                Edit: clarity.

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                  [–]Scott555 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  You touch on it referencing feminization. Women drive this, as evidenced by the percentage of Bravo viewers that identify as straight and male.

                  I have a hard time with seeing these trends as conspiracy. I think women recognize this intuitively as an effective sorting mechanism. A kind of oblivious self-interest.

                  It's another way for them to say, "just be yourself." They're not attracted to feminine males, and this is one way to get the less suitable mates them to out themselves.

                  [–]balalasaurus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I've seen some interesting comments here but so far I've been surprised that no-one has touched on how this action and the prevalence of homosexuality aside is part of the destruction of the family unit and thus society as a whole. You can bet that soon homosexual couples will be pushing for the same spousal benefits that hetero couples receive. Following that the burden of providing these benefits will become the providence of the state thereby increasing social dependence on it.

                  What will come next will only be the erosion of civilization as we eventually regress into a police state. It seems far out but that doesn't mean it's not possible or even probable for that matter.

                  [–]karen_na_reishou 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  It is about slowly breaking down the once holy marriage.

                  The basis of the modern world is the nuclear family. A Father, a mother and their children. Children from a nuclear family tend to have been instilled good morals and have had a proper childhood. They rarely fall into degeneracy.

                  • Divorce is pretty bad for children.
                  • Being raised by a single parent is pretty bad.
                  • Being raised by gays is pretty bad.
                  • Being raised by parents of different races can be pretty bad (if the races are dissimilar enough).

                  I suspect the next step will be to normalize polygamy. It is not a big secret that many gays are polygamous even those officially married. In a few years the cathedral will tell us how much we can learn from gays and their "open-mindedness".

                  Maybe after that the cathedral will try and legalize peadophillia and beastiality.

                  [–]bluedrygrass 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  In a few years the cathedral will tell us how much we can learn from gays and their "open-mindedness".

                  Maybe after that the cathedral will try and legalize peadophillia and beastiality.

                  Ding ding! Correct answer! I've already seen articles on respectable scientific magaziens claiming monogamy is "egotistical" and "indicative of a needy personality"; and searching around it's easy to see they're already trying to normalize pedophily.

                  Recently it has been declassified to "sexual orientation" on the latest WHO manuals. the same path homosexuality folowed some decades ago.

                  [–]ildiz 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I personally don't have an issue with homosexuals, I have a friend that is one. I do have a problem with homosexuality being used as the flagship to break down traditional ideals of family, by helping to bolster support for other deviations from norm such as hypergamy, polyamory which draw support from the same base.

                  Lastly, It was first about legalising homosexuality, then civil partnerships, then marriage next it will be adoption of children. When all is won in this area out they shall go forth to the next, for we all know animal-kin require skin transplant from an otter to live in harmony.

                  This ever conquering blitzkrieg of lunacy will keep going forward, until people like you and me say enough is enough.

                  [–]Kill_Your_Ego 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  As gays move in to gain children we can hijack their efforts and try to restore paternal kin selection. We just need to make sure that whatever comes out of the mess there is something in it that allows a woman to be able to sign a legally binding and enforceable contract to give the child to the man. The gay uses his sperm in a woman's body, a surrogate or whatever, and the child is owned by the man. Not the woman.

                  Voila we've brought back the patriarchy. Paternal kin selection is back. Then we just need to get some high status celebs to use the same contract with their LTRs so that they own the children. Any woman who LTRs up a high status man, movie star or something, will be very status hungry. So then we trumpet about how amazing this woman is and oh she must have such feels. Love and stuff or something. Tell other women to aspire to that level.

                  At least there would be some way to grant paternal kin selection for those of us who want to be fathers. I really have no idea how to get the gays to fight for paternal kin selection though.

                  It's an idea at least

                  [–]leftajar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I think that the legal system will be forced to address paternal kin selection -- the very first time a surrogate mother has a change of heart, and refuses to turn over the infant to the gay couple, who then sues her. Then it will be the oppression Olympics: women vs gays. I think the gays will win that one.

                  [–]ChiThrowawa 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Good that you and other people are starting to realise that gay propaganda is very much a real thing. In the UK we now have show hosts hired for no reason other than they are gay and gay characters added to dramas/cartoons where previously there were none. It is quite deliberately trying to brainwash people of all ages into thinking that a significant proportion of the population are gay.

                  Think of any other minority and how much attention they receive, or propaganda they spread. I am not anti-gay either but I find the promotion of it disgusting and irritating. Why is orthodox Judaism not promoted in the same way? Why must this particular minority (gays) be treated as special? Why can't this particular minority just keep to themselves and live their lives in peace like all the other minorities?

                  http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

                  I suspect there are number of old gay guys in the media now, who grew up in an environment hostile to gays, that basically want revenge. They want to turn the tables, normalise gay 'culture' and alienate normal people. And because they're gay and have no family, they can save a ton of money, work hard at their jobs, at gaining power and influence in the media, and what you have today is the media playing government by promoting it's own pro-gay agenda, including trying to destroy the careers/repuations of anyone who doesn't echo the pro-gay rhetoric, but disguising it all as "the voice of the people".

                  I feel everything points to the existence of pro-gay versions of Rupert Murdoch running the show.

                  [–]vakerr 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  What a sad sight, a people that turned from rebels into faggots.

                  [–]bluedrygrass 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Without clicking your link, i was thinking of the poor Swedes.

                  [–]i-raped-aaron-swartz 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  This is an uninformed OP.

                  Male homosexuality is not feminine in nature, it's hyper-sexual in a distinctly masculine sense.

                  Changing a man to basically be a woman, at least in terms of sexual strategy.

                  Male homosexuals exhibit 0% of anything remotely resembling female sexual strategy.

                  I also think this is why feminism is so comfortable and 'in bed with' homosexual culture.

                  Sometimes, but also sometimes not. Many feminists condemn male homosexuality as inherently misogynistic.

                  Why is homosexuality such a big topic in today's society? It seems to be everywhere in our media, and a major force shaping policy. ... I just think it's interesting how prevalent it is in our media and culture, especially when it's accepted only 5-10% of the population are gay or bi. There's something else going on here.

                  If you want to learn about the homosexual PR machine a good start is to read After the Ball

                  [–]zephyrprime 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  They act feminine though so that's all that matters. You are correct that they don't utilize feminine sexual strategy.

                  [–]_penseroso_[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I won't disagree with your first point. I'm not an expert on homosexuality by any means. As I said, this is an idea that was rattling around in my brain. I will take a look at your recommended reading, thanks.

                  [–]_penseroso_[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Also, do you have any sources to back up your other points? i.e. that male homosexuality is unlike female sexual strategy? There are many effeminate gay men, so I assumed that they were acting female in all ways including sexual strategy. (hypergamy, anti-slut defenses, etc)

                  [–]i-raped-aaron-swartz 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Male homosexuals have nothing in common with women. Even the lisping, flaming queens are simply LARPing as caricatures of women. Note that this LARPing is one of the reasons for which academic and radical feminists have given for arguing that homosexual men and homosexual culture are misogynistic.

                  Also note that female homosexuals differ greatly from male homosexuals in terms of their sexual behaviors and preferences.

                  hypergamy, anti-slut defenses

                  Male homosexuals are not hypergamous in the way women are. Male homosexuals are simply hyper-sexual and rarely form pair bonds and seem to have an unlimited number of partners and a propensity for sexual depravity that would make the Marquis de Sade blush. Your average heterosexual female does not have a partner count anywhere near that of the average male homosexual. Also, it's women who "slut-shame" other women most of the time and I'm not seeing many male homosexuals who shame their own kind for the excessive debauchery they're known for engaging in.

                  As for sources: they're out there but I'm on my phone so I'll maybe post some later. In the meantime you can Google around or, as I said earlier, read After the Ball. It will open your eyes and it's all information that is straight from the horse's mouth.

                  [–]Interlang 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Homosexual strategy seems to be a strange mixture. Some of them are hypergamous (want richer partners), some of them like to dominate. The whole thing is a dominance competition.

                  [–]bluedrygrass 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  One additional reason, too often overloocked, is that pervertions and deviations like homosexuality and pedophilia are extremely more diffused between the elites than the masses. It's not clear why, but it's like the more high-functioning an individual is, the more probabilities he has to develop deviations.

                  As an example, notice how the almost totality of homosexuals are generally smarter than the average population.

                  [–]vakerr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  You need to present some data for that last claim. I find it highly doubtful.

                  [–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Our society is egocentric. Everyone wants to be heard, and everyone's too sensitive to tell someone else "go fuck yourself" when they are attacked. Religion seems to play a big part in it too, which is why feminists are backing the gay movement; religion tends to look down on homosexuality. Feminism and homosexuality go hand in hand in destroying any sense of unadulterated male authority.

                  Sex is something that's hardly ever spoken about among the masses, just sort of hinted at in small groups, and that kind of mischievous association with a completely natural phenomenon shared by literally everyone leaves it unexplored and, inevitably, feared. In other words, men and women are so afraid of their desires that they need to associate their sexuality with something outside of themselves, yet similar to them: the same sex. It's sort of like an unconscious projection.

                  That's fine though. It just goes to show that we're not proud to be human anymore.

                  [–]NeoreactionSafe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)


                  Male Homosexuality = Fascism -------- Female Homosexuality = Feminism

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Röhm

                  The two most left wing socialist philosophies are the Fascists and the Feminists. The only thing they have in common is socialism. (manipulation of public opinion) The goals are entirely different, but the indoctrination techniques are the same.

                  The opposite is the reactionary who is at the rightmost place in the spectrum. To be pure right is in a sense to know god in the fullest expression of Absolute Truth. (to know nature)

                  Generally things like Monarchy or Aristocratic Republics are pretty close to the natural forces and are therefore closest to Truth.

                  "There are no enemies to the right."

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                      [–]TiredUnicorn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I think the solution is a lot simpler. I think we live in a culture where we don't ever want to hurt any body's feelings or offend them in any way. Hence political correctness, giving "participation" trophies, playing along with gender pretenders, and the like.

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                          [–]hairaware 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It seems like a failure overall though for those powers wishing to control men. Gay men are firstly not attracted to women and thus women lose their power over men. Second the gay community is far more tightly linked then the general heterosexual community allowing for more protests even with a smaller force. It also seems like gay males in general take better care of themselves then their straight counterparts allowing them to be more able to fight or protest if need be.