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I'm done with vaping. (self.electronic_cigarette)

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Let me preface this by saying I've been vaping for over 2 years now and have worked in a B&M for over 1 year.

I'm going to lay down some hard truths. This community is full of shitheads and douche bags, and you're most likely one of them. I know I was. The amount of bragging and overall fuckery in this community is worse than a damn college frat. No one cares how low your build is. No one cares how big your cloud is. No one cares how expensive your rig is. You spent 300 dollars on a metal fucking tube so you can stroke your dick about how far you can chuck your cloud. Congratulations. Too bad you can't put that on a resume. I've never met a bigger collection of self entitled morons and conventions are the worst of all. There isn't even a game to it anymore. It's just walk up to a vendor and say "what can I have for free?" and when someone tells you no, you give them a bad review. Fuck you if you do that. You're an entitled shithead and no better than a god damn toddler. People have to work for a living. I know this is a strange concept for a lot of you, but that's how the world works.

I see these kids day in and day out. They work minimum wage at Dominos and vaping is their whole life. They think they can just start a juice company and be lazy fucks their whole life. It's so fucking pathetic. No drive, no ambition, no college, no tech school, no desire to do anything besides post that next insta video so they can get sponsored. Which brings me to my next point, sponsorships and cloud comps. I watched this community change from friendly cloud comps where the winner gets a bottle of juice to cutthroat competitions where the winner gets 10k, yes literally 10k, I'm not being hyperbolic, and the competition ends in physical altercations and actual resentment between groups of people. Over a fucking cloud comp.

Shops, vendors, machinists, everyone in the community who is a part of this "sponsorship" only perpetuates this mentality. I get it though. It's cheap advertising. It's playing on the stupidity of this community to push your own product. I can't count the number of companies who make shit or overpriced products but are insanely popular because they got what's-his-dick (or what's-her-dick) to post an insta video for them. The worst part about it though? The people in this community are too stupid to look at a product objectively and make their own decision about it.

You want to government to take you seriously? You want to avoid regulation? You want to "save vaping." So stop acting like a bunch of god damn children and clean up your act. This community has a victim-complex as bad as SJW's on tumblr. No one takes you seriously because of your own actions. It's not a great conspiracy to end vaping, it's much simpler than that. Vaping is taking money away from a great deal of industries and it's easy to attack this market because it consists almost entirely of morons and fools.

This community sucks, is full of assclowns, and I'm fucking done. I'm quitting my job and moving away from this cesspool. Yes, I'm being crass but I don't give a fuck because I'm severing all ties to this community.

Mods, go ahead and delete this and ban me. I don't give a fuck because I've already unsubscribed.

By the way, if you down vote this because you feel offended or are pissed off at my criticism, you're exactly the person I'm talking about.

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[–]sethninja13iLeaf 30w + Kanger Subtank 608ポイント609ポイント  (163子コメント)

I understand disliking the vapeholes out there. But many of us are people just proud to quit smoking.

[–]OMGEntitlement8 December 2014 188ポイント189ポイント  (97子コメント)

Yeah, same, and of the 6+ people I know who vape, none of them give a shit about bragging on their rigs, or blowing the biggest clouds or any of that shit. All of them are just happy to not be smoking cigarettes.

[–]ravageritual 94ポイント95ポイント  (86子コメント)

Agreed. Don't know if it's our age (35+) but every person I know that vapes could give a squat about clouds, sub-ohms, or what rig someone has. We share what juices we like and lend each other batteries and tanks when in need. To be honest, I've never met a douchey vaper.

[–]OMGEntitlement8 December 2014 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

We're just too old to understand the lifestyle, maaaaaan.

VAPELYFE 420 BLAZEIT I think.

[–]FardoBaggins 38ポイント39ポイント  (67子コメント)

apparently OP has met all of them and then some.

[–]originalBLACKelvisRanger OKR x Lemo 54ポイント55ポイント  (64子コメント)

If he was working in a vape shop I don't doubt it. Honestly that's why I stay away from the local "scene." Its full of a bunch of these kind of people.

[–]SaintAnthonysFire 22ポイント23ポイント  (16子コメント)

Same, the B&Ms are the worst. Run by idiots, idiot employees with absolutely no sales experience or customer relations knowledge, just a plethora of useless information, about things I don't give a fuck about. The customers are all young kids who never smoked and think vaping big clouds make them cool. They hang out and bs with the employees so when people who want to get in and out come by, they look at them like they are inconveniencing them. I hate it.

[–]_Nymphae 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm shocked most B&M stores act like this, considering it's so easy to get absolutely everything I need online. There's a B&M near me that only has 1 register, and takes like 15 min with each customer. I go in for a bottle of juice and I'm there for over half an hour, just waiting in line, and there's only 3 people.

[–]bigsheldyMVP2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've found it's the same way with a lot of the medicinal marijuana dispensaries and generic smoke shops here in California. The people running the shops have little or absolutely zero knowledge of business, accounting, management, etc. and have basically cornered a small part of a popular market and are wildly overcharging for their products in some attempt to make a profit off of their non-existent business plan. I have to blame it on the clientele for these kinds of places, in most other retail/sales industries a shop ran like the way I've seen most B&Ms wouldn't last a month.

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    [–]MightyPenguinSigelei 100w+, Doge X Competition 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly my local B&M is great, the owner is an awesome guy as well as the employees and they all are knowledgeable and helpful to new people. But goodness grief half the time I walk in I meet a cringeworthy 18-19 year old, or some bro that cant stop talking about how hardcore he is...etc etc etc. It sucks. Neither me or my friends are like that, we just have our single setups that we have been using for a long time, not buying new shit every 2 weeks, and enjoy it and are happy its not smoking. Is it fun to blow big clouds? Yes sometimes if your not an ass about it of course its fun! Good flavors while you vape? Good too, but not when people start getting all high society about it and way to into it. Its the same thing as any other hobby, the people that get way to into it and obsessed make everyone else think we all are crazy cringey wierdos, and make us shake our heads at them.

    [–]AndyWarwheels 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A few days ago I went into my local B&M and everyone was just hanging out on the couch, no one was behind the counter. I walked in and they all just looked at me. I jokingly said, "Hi, so who wants to help me?" and they all looked at each other.

    I seriously needed 2 things. It took them longer to get off the couch than it did to help me.

    [–]Lithiar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is pretty much why I stopped going to B&Ms. That, and the last I went to the shop I would occasionally go to and surge on their juice, the guy treated me like I didn't know how to use and wick an RDA despite having stood there trying their juices on the one I was using without any problems. Like I get that they're trying to sell product, but talking down to customers is not the way to do it.

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      [–]satansrapierSig150TC + Mutation X V4 11ポイント12ポイント  (33子コメント)

      My local "scene" consists primarily of the following;

      1. 16-18 year old's, with IPV Minis, blowing clouds at every park and basketball court in town.
      2. 20-somethings who want the bars to look like they have fog machines in them
      3. 30-40 year old's with gas station vape pens (good for them though!)
      4. People who really enjoy vaping as a hobby, but don't feel the need to tell the world about it (this is where I fit in).

      The joys of living in a tiny town in MN.

      [–]wobinidan 11ポイント12ポイント  (20子コメント)

      30-40 year old's with gas station vape pens (good for them though!)

      I guess that would be me. Just bought a 25 euro vape pen 2 months ago to help me cut down on my tobacco consumption, and thought this might be an interesting sub. Turns out I have no idea wtf anyone is talking about. I swear, a mac user would find /r/pcgaming more enlightening than I find this subreddit.

      I'm looking to upgrade to a slightly more expensive model, but I've given up all hope of finding any advice from this sub or /r/vaping. Life's too short to try and decipher all the complexities. I just want to buy something that works and that I don't have to think too hard about.

      [–]GoldenGonzoSapor RDA w/ iStick 50w (Ticking Time Bomb Edition) 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I'm looking to upgrade to a slightly more expensive model, but I've given up all hope of finding any advice from this sub or /r/Vaping

      You could try.... you know.... posting a thread asking for help? Or is that too much to ask?

      This community has always been very helpful to me.

      [–]GunnyMcDuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Gee, that isn't encouraging. I found this sub a couple days ago and was hoping I could gain some insight from the folks here.

      This is literally the first post I've read here, so I'm hoping it is an outlier, but it sounds like it might not be.

      [–]peeled_bananas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Feel free to PM me if you need any advice. I'd love to help someone out, and I don't mind explaining why and how I do things to bring you up to speed.

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            [–]sliD2+Subtank 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

            When you throw yourself into a pile of shit, it's not really the shitpile's fault that you end up covered in shit.

            [–]Arm-the-homeless 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

            You know whats at work here? Its shit tectonics. When two shit plates strike and come together under incredible pressure, what happens Bubbs?

            [–]SoftSell89Ranger/Tugboat w/ Slam Cap 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Just like a shit-rope. The harder you grab it the slicker it gets and the further you fall, covered in shit.

            [–]TheDullard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Shit-quake.

            [–]NPHMctweeds 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Eloquent

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              [–]cptnrogerbaptist 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Vape shop scenes are alot different from ecr

              [–]kuppajavaSubox w FSUSA Neapolitan 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

              apparently OP is actually one of them and his leaving will help thin out the asshats.

              [–]entotheenth 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

              sometimes, I crank my provari and protank up to 7W! living on the edge here..

              [–]candre232010 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Same age bracket, and though I have several friends who vape, I don't know a single vapehole personally.

              However, I did go to a new shop's "grand opening meetup" last year, and I can confirm that vapeholes do in fact exist. It was my first (and only, to date) interaction with them. I'm not sure how to describe the atmosphere, other than "I'm too old for this shit". I'm not sure I would have been into it in my early 20s either, but maybe I'm just misremembering how much of a douchebag I was.

              In any case, being 5 years cigarette-free is all the bragging rights I need.

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                [–]sethninja13iLeaf 30w + Kanger Subtank 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                exactly, the only other people i know that vape are at my college and we dont try to make ourselves out to be some kind of clique, we honestly only talk about it if one of us may have a new flavor none of us have tried or something.

                [–]Harddaysnight199010 months and counting 09/21/2014 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Totally. And my vaping friends are all in that 18-25 target market. We'll talk about the newest tech, our current builds, the new wicking technique. But we're not assholes about it. We're happy to be quit smoking. We congratulate each other on milestones since we quit. I got my friend a bottle of nice juice for his 1 year quitiversary.

                [–]serfingusa 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Vocal minority is out there.

                They are our public image.

                [–]prodiklMVP 2 + Keyfun Lite 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yeah, probably because most of us aren't knee-deep in it. It's a way to get away from smoking and in my experience the "community" has been nothing but friendly and helpful.

                I feel like you'll get 18 year old douchebags in any industry or hobby. Gaming, e-cigs, cars, computers, hell, even books.

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                  [–]mygoddamnameistaken 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Two years ago vaping was about quitting smoking, times have changed.

                  [–]Meoang 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Yeah, I've been vaping for years and I've never encountered people like this. Then again, I don't work at a vape store, so most of the people I meet who vape are just passing strangers.

                  [–]izkariot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Where I'm from, I see more vapeholes than not, unfortunately. Like straight on chucking clouds into bartenders' faces kinda vapehole.

                  [–]GDogg007 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  I know some of the vapeholes. Me I use an eleaf istick and from what I understand it's an old one. I couldn't tell you anything else besides it was black but over time and through use it has turned a cool greenish color. But I do know it works. I know I have an aspire nautilus tank. Only because I have to buy coils for it. I buy one flavor of juice from a local shop and never change it. So if I wanted to brag or boast I think I would be laughed out of whatever group was doing that boasting.

                  [–]Ryan03rr 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  You should see the shit I get from sub 30 year olds about my e-roll.

                  Yet people age 35-dead love it and ask questions because it looks like a cigarette and not a fucking VHS tape. Oh and it can't hit 1.21 jigawatts. That seems to be a issue with the kids.

                  [–]SugarFreeTurkeyDark Horse and TurtleShip V3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  26 here. Fuck those guys. Do whatever you need to do to keep you off the stinkies and if it works for you then its their problem. I would never judge someone for using a device that helps them keep of smoking just because it's not a 200w monster with sub ohm coils.

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                      [–]cwazywabbit74 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      But many of us are people just proud to quit smoking.

                      True, but what OP is saying definitely resonates. As much as there are folks who used vaping as a means to "quit" smoking (like me), there are a plethora of folks who never smoked and have a slightly different mentality. Just saying.

                      [–]IkeyJesus 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I think this is 'police officer syndrome," or "stripper syndrome" where people in the industry only see one side of their 'patrons.' Strippers think all men want to use them for is their bodies - policemen think all people are scum.

                      Bro, you work at a vape shop.. guess what you're going to be talking about?

                      I'm a casual vapor who goes in once a month to buy juice, check out new product, and find out what makes new stuff better. I'm the guy that asks you if there are any awesome new fruit flavors and what the difference is between all the subtanks and likely buys one. I might even sit down and vape with you if you're not a dick.

                      Any 'hobby' has the enthusiasts that are the social outcasts and find respite in a community that accepts them, so they likely try to be at the top of the 'skill' level so they can find praise they otherwise would never find.

                      Now that you're out, if you don't fuel the hate and terrible experiences you've had, you may find yourself seeing people and vapors differently, especially when you're at a concert or walking down the street and see most people with e-go's just getting their nic fix.

                      I wish you the best bro, I don't think you wish us ill, I think you're just burnt out.

                      [–]SlightlySlizzedeVic Vt + Aspire Triton 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Yeah I'm not too into it yet but 2 months without a cigarette or a craving is pretty tight. Been hitting the gym as well.

                      [–]sethninja13iLeaf 30w + Kanger Subtank 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      same here about the gym, i love not coughing up a lung after doing my cardio.

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                        [–]iREDDITandITsucksMVP 3.0Pro + iSub G 58ポイント59ポイント  (15子コメント)

                        No use in trying to reason with him. The guy is a narcissistic loser I'm afraid.

                        By the way, if you down vote this because you feel offended or are pissed off at my criticism, you're exactly the person I'm talking about.

                        I downvoted but I am no where near what you describe. Take a break, grow up, and don't die from hypertension when you get to adulthood.

                        [–]_breadpool_ 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        Right? He's calling everyone else a douche, but I'm afraid he doesn't own a mirror. He claims he's going to quit vaping because he's had to deal with a few assholes, but maybe he should consider quitting life because there's assholes everywhere.

                        His rant isn't criticism, it's him smelling the shit on his own shoes.

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                          [–]Vejious 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          This. And also, i don't need to spend $300 to "stroke my dick". Last time i had checked, pornhub was free. 0_o

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                            [–]greencobblinSigelei 150 / Tugboat V2 1102ポイント1103ポイント  (17子コメント)

                            Bombies Nana' Cream in 3mg

                            Thanks!

                            [–]bill_hilly 158ポイント159ポイント  (39子コメント)

                            For 90% of vapers, it's about quitting smoking. Of the 10% or so that are "enthusiasts", only about 1% act like vapeholes. Don't let the minority ruin it for you.

                            [–]rendeld 48ポイント49ポイント  (20子コメント)

                            The minority is such a loud part of this community though, so its tough.

                            [–]bill_hilly 43ポイント44ポイント  (12子コメント)

                            Not for me. I don't go places vapeholes are known to roam. It's the same way I avoid bears.

                            [–]claythearcTwotonian DNA 40, Mark Bugs GEM 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

                            I live in huntsville, Al. The majority of Vapers here are the huge cloud blowing folk.

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                                [–]ChestigoSigelei 150 & Aromamizer RDTA 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Exactly. I started to quit smoking when my GF became pregnant and had to quit smoking about a year and a half ago. It wasn't fair to her or my baby to continue. Now it has become a hobby, but i don't have to have the latest gear. I've never stepped into a cloud comp and other than winning things on reddit have never received anything free from a vendor. I don't preach to smokers as if I'm superior and I greatly enjoy helping new vapors quit smoking safely. Now I know some vapers that only do it to be "cool" and have no idea what they are doing and are always on the verge of blowing themselves up with an unregulated box. I first try to talk to them about safety if they ignore it and dont want to listen I ignore them and stand a few extra steps away when they are vaping =).

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                                  [–]Arm-the-homeless 449ポイント450ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                  "I am so important that I want everyone to know that I am leaving FOREVER."

                                  I totally get where you're coming from in regards to asshole vapers. I got the same vibes from this post. You're not special and nobody gives a fuck, if you wanna leave, go on then. We don't need a resignation letter.

                                  [–]jdps27Sigelei 150w | Subtank Mini 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Hi, this is Milton with HR. I just wanted to let you know that we did, in fact, need this resignation letter so that we could have /u/PM_Me_Assntitties removed from payroll and made sure he turned his douchewear in.

                                  Don't forget, we're doing bi-annual reviews on Tuesday.

                                  [–]Arm-the-homeless 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Ah, fuck. Sorry. Please dont put this on my permanent record.

                                  [–]remembermelover 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  This should be the top comment. Milton. Ahhh I died

                                  [–]happysnappahMutation X V345, DNA8000 Monkey Spunk Max VG 75ポイント76ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  I've always called this move a flounce. As in, flouncing away with petticoats rustling. GOOD DAY, SIR. It's pathetic. It's even more pathetic when they come back to see if anyone is begging them to stay.

                                  [–]unicornswithkeytars 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  "Fare thee well, Felicia."

                                  [–]PantzzzzlessSigelei 100W, Atlantis 2, Vevo 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Straight outta Vapeton.

                                  [–]frostysauce 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Yep. Urban Dictionary has a entry for it, as does Encyclopedia Dramatica

                                  [–]theorist_complex 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  We don't need a resignation letter.

                                  Fucking burrrrrn. lol

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                                    [–]RusskiBayonet 210ポイント211ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                    Lmao just imagine getting this worked up over this shit.

                                    JUST IMAGINE.

                                    [–]so_sic_of_itOhm's Law? More like Ohm's Suggestion. 107ポイント108ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                    I'M QUITTING MY JOB AND MOVING AWAY BECAUSE REDDIT!

                                    [–]Vomath 50ポイント51ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    IM TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME!

                                    [–]so_sic_of_itOhm's Law? More like Ohm's Suggestion. 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Aww, everybody knows /u/Vomath has the best balls. :(

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                                      [–]superflyTNT2iStick 30W, Subtank Mini & Nano 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      YOU PEOPLE RUINED MY FUCKING LIFE

                                      [–]sgamerNixon RDA + Tobeco SMPL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      That's the best part...we have plenty of people around here who would want a job at a B&M, and then this guy who can't handle the heat of customer service. Pro Tip: Customers are assholes.

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                                        [–]Arm-the-homeless 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        He could have cut his grass or ran on a treadmill or read a book to his kids in the time it took to write this shit.

                                        [–]blzd4dyz 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        He could have met a girl, dated her, impressed her parents, married her on a Saturday, impregnated her on the honeymoon, watched the miracle of life take place, set his kid up with a sweet mod and 0mg juice, and sent the kid away to college with a tear in his eye, in the time it took to write this shit.

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                                            [–]TazDevylCinnamon roll 181ポイント182ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                            Need a snickers?

                                            [–]Too803Indiana 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            My professor didn't find this as funny as I did during his lecture.

                                            [–]FaladorableSubox Mini 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            snickers in 0mg, thanks!

                                            [–]northwest_juicemix masters 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We'll take it if he doesn't want it. Thx

                                            [–]carramrod2012 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            who makes that flavor? does it come in 1.5mg?

                                            [–]TazDevylCinnamon roll 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I know that was a joke, but I got curious and had to google and see, and there's quite a few lol

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                                              [–]project_twenty5oh1Bigglesworth Labs Tundra 114ポイント115ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              This community is full of shitheads and douche bags, and you're most likely one of them.

                                              Well I sure want to listen to the rest of what you have to say!

                                              [–]Sidetracking 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              He couldn't make it three sentences without strawmanning

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                                                [–]sc0lm00JuiceDB (Admin) 78ポイント79ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                While I agree with a lot of what you said, you are cowardly running away rather than acting to better the hobby/industry.

                                                Those who are the most vocal and radical often make up the image of a group. You can look at any scene and see this, be it cars, gaming, whatever. I agree it sucks, and it sucks for people to have a preconceived image of you based on other people. It's the way of the world though. Stand strong and distance yourself from those behaviors. I am an old dude, with a wife, kid, job, mortgage, the works. I am not those guys at cloud competitions, or asking for handouts. The last convention I went to I never asked a single vendor for anything free and spent 6 hours stopping and talking to every vendor I came across.

                                                Don't lump everyone into your jaded cynical view of what vaping has become because you're only seeing half the picture. Associate with decent people and let the others dig their own hole.

                                                [–]forgottenoldusername 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                While I agree with a lot of what you said, you are cowardly running away rather than acting to better the hobby/industry.

                                                And let's be honest, every community has dickheads.

                                                I used to cycle very seriously, hundreds of miles a week. I ended up losing my passion for it because of a few people in my club who took if far, far too seriously and ended up making me dread going out on a ride. One guy specifically would constantly call me out, call me a slacker or a weekend warrior constantly because I didn't go out on rides with him because I would rather spend time with my girlfriend (who at the time was about to move 6000 miles away for a year.). Now don't get me wrong, I can take a bit of banter, loads of the other guys in the club called me a weekend warrior as a joke but at the end of the day it was clear it was a joke and that they were cool with it. This one guy wasn't cool with it. Credit where credit is due, this guy was fit, I'd struggle to keep up or take shifts on the front of group when he was riding. Rather than help me along and suggest tips to improve like the other guys did, he just mocked me.

                                                In the end I stopped cycling. And you know what? I really regret it. Not only did I end up moving away from a solid friend group, but I lost all my fitness and and my passion. Looking back I should have seen that it really was as simply as distancing my self from that specific guy, not the community.

                                                On the upside, it's taught my a valuable lesson. You can join any community and there will be a select few ruining it for others, distance your self from them, not the community you enjoy and lets face it, you wouldn't have started if you didn't enjoy it.

                                                [–]vapingatfiftyCloud Provisions 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Exactly this. I saw it in the four wheeling industry at regional events, always a few assclowns who didn't follow the rules, they end up getting trails shut down and hurting the majority. I saw it in the duning industry, assclowns driving beyond their limits, injuring people. In the gaming industry we have the loud minority of racist, homophobe teenagers.

                                                People will always try to impress themselves, and in doing so, anger others. It doesn't matter the industry.

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                                                  [–]dupedgg 225ポイント226ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                  Ok bye.

                                                  [–]agnl 62ポイント63ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Seriously my sentiment. Wtf is this post? OP, you seem to be as much of a douchebag as everyone else you criticize.

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                                                    [–]ChestigoSigelei 150 & Aromamizer RDTA 139ポイント140ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                    Talking about immaturity and how everyone is a douche when his name is /u/PM_Me_AssnTitties

                                                    [–]Iamabioticgod 56ポイント57ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Irony

                                                    [–]ChestigoSigelei 150 & Aromamizer RDTA 87ポイント88ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                    BYE FELECIA!!

                                                    [–]TubbytheIDDSubbox Mini (White Edition) 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    I really like how everyone flamboyantly yells this when the actual quote was said calmly and quietly.

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                                                      [–]PhilosophVisor 42ポイント43ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                      Sounds like your mad at a specific type of person and are trying to generalize too a whole group. Clearly it sounds like you have a vaping buisness yourself and its not working out so well so your upset.

                                                      [–]miaka1977jYOU'RE TEARING ME APART, LISA! 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I'm thinking you must have had to deal with some really bad people, and I am sorry. I can say I kinda know what you mean. I have been in a B&M before, when I first started, and was pretty much ignored and had to figure things out on my own. I didn't let it deter me from vaping, though.

                                                      I will never enter a cloud contest, but I was pretty proud when I got my first RDA. It kinda felt like a step up. I still primarily use my tanks and non temp controlled coils and blow clouds that aren't full of second hand additives.

                                                      I'm sorry about your experiences that tarnished your views on an entire community. I know this is your throwaway, and I hope you see this. Congrats on quitting smoking and getting down to 0 as well! That is huge, and I would be proud!

                                                      Also, I never presume to get anything for free, but I imagine that it does happen. I would be pretty upset if I saw people abusing the system as well.

                                                      Do well out there in the world, OP.

                                                      [–]mr_punchy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I know im breaking some rules with this and i apologize, but you seem like a judgemental little cunt with the tact of a brick and the social skills of a fresh pile of shit. (Yes, I see the irony in this sentence)

                                                      You are mainly talking about people in their early 20s embracing a new hobby while trying not to die from cancer. Yeah some go too far, but its brand new. They are finding their way.

                                                      So go ahead and fuck right off. We certainly don't need a shop boy telling us the best way to make make headway in legitimizing the industry. I'm glad to see you go. You wont be missed by me.

                                                      Seriously the only thing wrong with this community is 200+ other people found this trash worthy of an up vote.

                                                      Toodles junior. Best of luck in whatever cesspool you land in next.

                                                      [–]happysnappahMutation X V345, DNA8000 Monkey Spunk Max VG 47ポイント48ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Well, gosh, I'm sure going to miss you.

                                                      [–]ryguygoesawry2009 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I'm going to lay down some hard truths. This community is full of shitheads and douche bags, and you're most likely one of them. I know I was.

                                                      ...

                                                      By the way, if you down vote this because you feel offended or are pissed off at my criticism, you're exactly the person I'm talking about.

                                                      Yea, no. I'm downvoting you because you're automatically assuming that everyone here is like the douchebag that you used to be (though, I'm inclined to say you still are that douche). I, for one, do not chase clouds or brag about how low by build is ever. I'm in this so I can have a more satisfying and healthier replacement for the habit of smoking cigarettes. I enjoy the technology behind it. I window shop constantly but only buy new mods when it's necessary. I chat with people about their preferences and try to give suggestions about what could make their experience better. Lots of people in this subreddit, from my experience, are not cloud-chasing douche-bros.

                                                      I'm sorry you've associated with all of the terrible people most of us are sick of and complain about, but get off your fucking high-horse. You don't sound any better than any of them.

                                                      [–]chris19dIPV4 + Marquis RDA 32ポイント33ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      can I have your stuff?

                                                      [–]Arm-the-homeless 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      I'm claiming his pokemon cards

                                                      [–]blzd4dyz 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      But I had dibs on the foil Charizard.

                                                      [–]MemeThemedName 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Fine but I get his Magic cards!

                                                      [–]BigSmileyFaceSigelei 150w + Royal Hunter 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      fine dibs on his fedora... wait.

                                                      [–]ShakerVaporInterstate battery, Sky Jacker coil spring, steel wool, no juice 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Dude, my parents paddled me wen I was a kid for pitching a tantrum like this.

                                                      [–]DrGizmo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I'm just glad to have quit smoking

                                                      [–]DiddlesMcGooSigelei 100w+/Magma RDA clone 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Well... thats just like... your opinion man.

                                                      [–]Jrdprs 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I just like the taste :(

                                                      [–]mtf420PL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Go fuck yourself and GTFO. You sound like "one of them" to me

                                                      [–]vapeosaurus_rex 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      This community sucks, is full of assclowns, and I'm fucking done.

                                                      No, you got it all wrong. The problem here is that we are trying to have a community, made up of assclowns. but give it time, and the d-bags will move along. i have seen this happen before with brand new things in life. The people that get sucked into the trashy commercialism will get bored, and find something different to fuck over and the companies they once supported will go under.

                                                      [–]rumster 19ポイント20ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                      As someone who is new to vaping and trying to figure it out. I 10000000% agree with you. You guys are a bunch of douches. Especially some stores around Chicago. You guys can't even help a newbee without putting me down. You tell me to get this and that without really listening to my problems? When I buy your shit you tell me "ohh... I like that one better because of this problem..." blah... Enough is enough.

                                                      I do have to say though... Reddit folks have been actually really helpful. It's more of the IRL experiences I've had so far that kinda bent me.

                                                      [–]supermasterpigTesla 120W / Velocity RDA 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      I can understand the frustration. I have been in stores that are like that. I have also felt the same way when I go to hobby stores for RC cars or even computer stores. Anything that is a hobby you will find people that are assholes know it alls. If you are still interested stick to ECR, the community as a whole is willing to help and give advice.

                                                      [–]rumster 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      I walked out yesterday from Vape House in Elmhurst because one employee a week ago told me to buy this tank. Than this employee is telling me to get this other tank. I told them my issues with one of these tanks and he said. It went like this:

                                                      Dude your wrong!!! Dude.. I'm telling you my issue with this tank it leaks all over the place. Dude! This tank is great. Dude I am telling you I had this tank for a month and it leaked all over my leather couch. Dude this tank doesn't leak dude. No dude it leaks dude. NO dude you should get this instead dude.

                                                      I swear the whole conversation went for about 5 minutes like this.

                                                      [–]supermasterpigTesla 120W / Velocity RDA 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Been there before, I no longer go to stores. Unless you need it right now I would post to ECR for future item purchases for two big reasons. First, you will be conversing with people who are not making a sale off of you. They are more likely to tell you how it is. Second, everything is much cheaper online then the stores.

                                                      Good luck!

                                                      [–]Akillies294 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      The only store I go to belongs to my friends' mom. It's a "vapor lounge" with chairs and tables and a bar style front counter. You can sit in there all day vaping, not buy a thing, and they won't kick you out. It's a great atmosphere, and they don't try to sell you on things. I've only ever been given stats on items, never been told to get X over Y, even if they have or are currently using it

                                                      [–]0Lonesmoker0 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Dude, as far as I love Chicago for the "mystic" the city have, I had to agree with you: most of Chicago's vape stores are full of douches. Really really bad service. If you have time, search the vape stores near Wisconsin. There are great ones there.

                                                      [–]gardvar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I have had very few positive experiences with b&m stores.

                                                      But reddit I am very pleased with, you just have to learn to sift the douchbags when you are reading. But imo that applies for all of reddit life

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                                                        [–]buffalolsxIPv3, Doge RDA, VJ Northern Lights 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        I may sound like a jerk, but the reason you keep seeing people like this is because you are someone like this.

                                                        I don't have any of the problems you have. Do you know why? Because I don't care about cloud comps, I don't care about conventions, I don't care about how low your build is, and I don't care how big your clouds are.

                                                        I care about providing myself a healthier alternative to smoking, and your plea for attention described as a rant about others makes me happy that's all I care about in this community.

                                                        [–]Vinnymac_vapes 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                        Was this meant for /r/vaping ? I'm only seeing one douche on this sub let's call him OP. Are you upset because no one has sponsored you???

                                                        [–]superflyTNT2iStick 30W, Subtank Mini & Nano 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        I don't get it, I have a giant sticker on my mod that reads "this space available for rent", walk around blowing the biggest clouds known to man, and point out why everyone else vaping is doing it wrong. Meanwhile Cuttwood sponsors a fucking racecar? Idiots. Don't they know I represent this hobby better than anyone else?

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                                                          [–]NixxxioRY4lyfe 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          k byeeeee

                                                          [–]Skullovitch 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Wow, you're name was enough to know that you're an idiot, you didn't need to write that whole diatribe.

                                                          I'm not going to go through point by point, but you're flat out wrong. Vaping can be a tool to help people quit smoking. Vaping can be a hobby that people enjoy and a relatively inexpensive one at that. The community at large is great. People trying to help each other out, motivate them to stay off cigarettes, teach about safety.

                                                          The small number of douchebags you're talking about mostly don't hurt anyone and are really none of you're fucking business.

                                                          I can't speak for everyone, but I won't miss you.

                                                          Later, dickhead.

                                                          [–]whistle_tipsDNA 40 - Subtank 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Someone pissed in his Cheerios flavored juice

                                                          [–]electrobrainsStirlen Mods wood 2x18650s/0.28Ω quad split coils/Zephyr Buddha 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I would vape a Cheerios juice. 0mg piss, preferably.

                                                          [–]icantmakethisupiTaste mvp 2.0, Nautilus Mini 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          I see these kids day in and day out. They work minimum wage at Dominos and vaping is their whole life. They think they can just start a juice company and be lazy fucks their whole life. It's so fucking pathetic. No drive, no ambition, no college, no tech school, no desire to do anything besides post that next insta video so they can get sponsored.

                                                          Excuse me, but fuck you guy. I have a full time desk job, with benefits and decent pay. I have a Bachelor's Degree and a drive to make my dreams come true. I couldn't give a fuck about cloud chucking, or not being able to vape indoors in my state. Thanks to this sub, I'm educated on what's in e-juices, and proper safety protocols of mod usage. I'm not lazy, dumb, or pathetic. Your generalization is offensive to everybody here that's simply proud to have finally quit cigarettes. You, sir, are the assclown.

                                                          You'll take your downvote, and you'll LIKE it. Doucheknuckle.

                                                          [–]thascarecro 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Your post is the main reason i dont go into B&Ms,go to conventions, or even tell anyone i vape. Hey i'm all for people wearing vape shirts, entering cloud comps(silly), or even dripping in a public park. If thats you then have at it! But i just dont want to be associated with those people. My vape stays in the car when i take it with me.

                                                          [–]styroteqe 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          This community is full of shitheads and douche bags, and you're most likely one of them.

                                                          You sound like a presumptuous cunt. Don't let the door hit you in the cornhole on your way out.

                                                          [–]derekhans 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                          I started vaping because I wanted to quit smoking. I toyed with opening a B&M because I saw value in vaping and thought I could do it better than some of the fly-by-night fucktards opening shops and the big name kiosks in the mall.

                                                          Then I met the community. I didn't want to be a part of it.

                                                          I have an eGo One with a Kanger Sub Tank Nano. I moved to that from an eGo 650 passthrough with a ProTank II. It works, it's fine, and no it's not inferior to yours.

                                                          Some kid saw me vaping on the sidewalk outside a restaurant, stopped and started to tell me about how his mech mod giant box was better than my little 40 dollar rig. Who gives a shit?

                                                          I don't rewick/recoil anything. I buy new coils. I mix some liquids, only because it's cheaper, but mainly buy the ones I like. Don't call it "juice", it sounds retarded.

                                                          Don't stop me to talk about vaping. I don't care. Don't walk past me standing outside an airport and say "Hey, hashtagVapeLife?" and get indignant when I don't respond.

                                                          I don't know what happened to set OP off, but I get where he's coming from. Stop being such utter and complete knobs. If someone asks you about vaping, then give them the facts. Don't shove it down their throats. Be as considerate vaping as you would be smoking. Vapedouchery is real.

                                                          [–]thewandererNickClassique Box/ mini haze 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Well he/she just described the the majority of people I have met while vaping, but the other people were for the most part very cool, and really just into it to stop a life threatening habit, and I am one of those people. Hell the first time i got a second hand mod and old ass atty i was in heaven. Of course cloud chasing is fun, and a think a majority of us know what it means to work for a living. Conventions of any type are like what can I have for free for the most part, and the other part are people trying to get to know each other. I would say overall the vaping community is probably my favorite group of people at the moment, because I get on here daily, and read the successes of other people and it makes it easier for me to keep on vaping. Some people actually like blowing big ole clouds.

                                                          [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          OP, I feel you, but I guarantee that those of us 25+ are not like this. I vaped to quit. I bought one mod and one tank. Same one for over 2 years now. This subreddit is 99% better than the people you meet on the street. I would akin your rant to people who play video games and those who are "PC MASTER RACE" cringe wizards.

                                                          My point is, I feel you. I understand, and I know this rage. I hope that you find a nice group of people to vape with that are adults and nice.

                                                          [–]MikeHuntsphishyIPV4 + Sigelei 150w 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          Downvoted cause stereotypical generalizations from mad op.

                                                          [–]PurpletechDrip Drop Drippin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          And this guy just won a giveaway I saw yesterday.

                                                          So.....gonna give that to someone still involved in the community?

                                                          [–]Wonkie 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You may make some valid points, but I think the bottom line is that you're an asshole. Where the fuck do you get off judging kids for working at Dominos without having any secondary education when you work at a fucking vape shop?

                                                          Frankly, get off your high horse and go fuck yourself. My experience of the community has been vastly different than yours, and I don't mean this subreddit. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

                                                          [–]TimothyGonzalez 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          It's funny cause you seem to find these "shitheads" so infuriating that you are leaving forever. I've never even encountered any of the people you describe. You know why? Cause I just go down to the goddamn ecig shop, get some tanks, get some juice. You seem to be the one following these douchecanons on instagram and getting all up into the vape douchebag community, lol.

                                                          [–]jakelmiller1992 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          To act like everyone who poses any interest in vaping is an asshole is extremely obnoxious, but yeah I'm fucking tired of vape t-shirts and dipshits chucking clouds in movie theaters and what not too.

                                                          [–]QMaker 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          OP works in a vape shop. He sees a lot of the guys who hang out in vape shops and go to "cloud comps". His view is biased by his disproportionate exposure to vapeholes.

                                                          I see vape holes rarely, very rarely, because I don't hang out in a vape shop or go to "cloud comps".

                                                          OP can hate those guys all he wants, in fact I encourage it. However, painting all of us with these broad strokes is inaccurate and only serves to display his ignorance of the vaping population as a whole. It exposes his bias in the eyes of those who are just average people who vape.

                                                          I do agree with OP on the cloud chasing and "my-mod-is-bigger-than-your-mod" mentalities. That shit really is dumb.

                                                          [–]IINSULT 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Holy fuck!

                                                          Somebody needs a cigarette!

                                                          [–]XanthostemonMutation X V2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          By the way, if you down vote this because you feel offended or are pissed off at my criticism, you're exactly the person I'm talking about.

                                                          Go fuck yourself :)

                                                          [–]AznGuy76Sigelei 150w / Mutation X v4 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Someone needs a hug and a size 14 kick on the butt

                                                          [–]Aventine 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I have a cheap rig, i'm a college educated, young professional, that also tours with metal bands. I try not to vape around people because i want to avoid the people you speak about. I guess generalizing the entire community is cool though

                                                          [–]maymay666 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Did that make you tired? It sounded like it made you tired. What did you hope to accomplish by this? Was it that all vape douches would suddenly throw down their mods and make a vow of solidarity with the rest of us? I don't care for all the shit heads associated with vaping either but neither did I care for the same type of people when I was a smoker. You know, the "I only smoke organic hand picked tobacco rolled in the finest japanese papers" hipster jack ass. You know what I do? I ignore it until it directly affects me. It's not worth the stress. If you feel so strongly about quitting vaping then just quit. There is no need, and nothing to gain by insulting an entire group of people for the actions of a few. You lost all credibility when you crossed that line. The simple fact is that there are a multitude of douche bags in every aspect of life and you cannot combat them by becoming like them.

                                                          [–]Dr_King_Schultz10/10/2014 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You sound like a really insecure person.

                                                          [–]stickytape0505 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I think your issue is more with the people you know than with the community at large. 99% of communities have shitty people in them.

                                                          The local B&M where I just bought my set up was totally cool, not pushy, not douchey. And I walked in with a little iTaste VW thing while their were a bunch of guys with mechs and huge rigs hanging out. No one did anything but help, recommend juices, ask questions.

                                                          Sorry for your bad experiences, but you shouldn't generalize an entire group because you have had a few shitty experiences.

                                                          [–]DinosaurNecromancer 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          Dude every time I go to the vape store and they give me shit for not being a vaping expert, or when I get shit because I dont want to buy the 500 dollar mod I think this. Also all the people who vape that do it in public or inside and bother people with obnoxious clouds really suck and just ruin it for everyone.

                                                          [–]Angerandhate 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Sound like OP lost that 10k cloud comp

                                                          [–]CranmCorpsChemicalsKanger SUBOX Mini Kit 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Do you know what this post reminds me of... When we were kids playing basketball and the kid who brought the basketball was loosing so he gets all mad and says fuck you it's my ball and I'm leaving.

                                                          [–]edragon20 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Based on the title,

                                                          DIBS ON YOUR SHIT.

                                                          [–]crappy_guitaristIPV D2 & Velocity 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                          While I mostly agree with your views, why stop vaping? You started to stop smoking, am I right?

                                                          IMO, remove yourself from the vaping scene, but continue vaping. Unless, ofc, you don't need it.

                                                          P.s. o can confirm I am a shithead, but not a vaping shithead. :)

                                                          [–]MicchiI steep my juice in my boobs. 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          Too bad you can't put that on a resume.

                                                          "Familiar with intricacies of Ohms Law and how it applies to daily life."

                                                          "Developed fine motor skills and the ability to manipulate small objects with precision."

                                                          BOOM. Resume'd.

                                                          [–]metansKanger Subox / Mutation x V2 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          "Developed fine motor skills and the ability to manipulate small objects with precision."

                                                          "Well I'm certainly impressed though I'm not certain your masturbatory accomplishments are relevant to this particular position..."

                                                          [–]MicchiI steep my juice in my boobs. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Pfffff, that doesn't take any precision, just dedication and biceps.

                                                          [–]SecularPaladin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Awesome!

                                                          [–]Vatigu12/26/2014 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          To begin with it sounds like you're projecting. You realize how much of a douche you are and you are now lashing out. Please finish growing up since it seems like you've grown up a little bit recently if what you describe was what you were.

                                                          Now to address your points.

                                                          I have a good job and work hard. I spent more at vapecan than I got for free. I like clouds but have no use for competitions.

                                                          You said you work at a B&M. You are a (most likely)minimum wage retail employee. You are not better or different from the people you describe. In fact you're a giant hypocrite. They work at dominoes and you work retail. If that's all your skills got you then you're not in any place to speak.

                                                          I'm not saying a B&M employee can't be smart - but seriously retail is retail: know your product and sell it it's not that complicated there's a reason it doesn't require a college education.

                                                          As someone who is effectively the exact opposite of what you describe (And most likely similar to the majority of vapers) and still love vaping. Insulting all vapers for the actions of a few(including yourself) makes you the worst kind of bigot, I suggest you grow up further before you take the next steps into the real world.

                                                          [–]Awesummzzz 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I'm not gonna say I agree but I will say I don't disagree. What you said applies to a lot of people, it also doesn't apply to a lot of people

                                                          [–]IainfixieSubox Mini RBA. 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          The amount of folks ITT making fun of OP is disheartening.

                                                          [–]Crysalim 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          No offense, but as soon as you start categorizing the entire vaping community based on particular individuals, you've already lost the fight.

                                                          I know you're getting a lot of good will with this post, but in the long run, without a change of viewpoint, our cause is better off without you; you may be surprised to learn that you have not ascended above your vapehole streak as much as you think you might have. In fact, I'd argue sentiment like this can be much worse than a cloud chaser or public showoff more often than not.

                                                          [–]Imthemayor 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          This dude would LOVE League of Legends.

                                                          "I QUIT SOMETHING I LIKE BECAUSE YOU ALL SUCK." Sounds about right for the MOBA community to me.

                                                          [–]Planexxe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          If you can quit vaping just because you're annoyed with other vapers, you're a hobbyist. I can't. I'm addicted to nicotine. I use vaping as a replacement for my previous heavy smoking. I don't even think about the "community" aspect of it. It's just something I do to stay off the cigarettes, and I imagine it's much the same for a significant percentage of adult vapers.

                                                          You're obviously a kid. And there's nothing wrong with that, but channel all that passion into something more productive than bashing a bunch a strangers online. It's a worthless and fruitless pursuit.

                                                          [–]burny#ffd700 Ω 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          /r/vaping is over there buddy --->

                                                          [–]viphectSigelei 150w/Tugboat v2 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Lol, someone's butthurt.

                                                          [–]RonBeastly60w rDNA Clone / Subtank+ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Ouch :(

                                                          [–]michiganvapesCoupon code "hardwork" 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I do understand some things you addressed. However this is a GROWING community. I get irritated when i see people throw massive clouds in an Applebees or the grocery store. 10K is nuts for a cloud comp but if its bringing more attention to our community and gets people into it then im all for it. Its not the vaping industry's fault that they end in physical altercation. Spending 300$ dollars on a tube of metal can be looked at as crazy, but so can spending 5k on a watch or 100k on a car. People pay for what they want, quality, craftsmanship and to support someone with an original idea. its not your job to judge them for spending what they want on any item they want. its their money and their choice. The only thing i will agree with you on is that it kind of sucks when people expect free things and get upset when they dont get anything for free. personally, i always give free samples at expos but ive seen enthusiasts get genuinely upset when they didn't get something for free from another vendor. However, it happens. One of the best things about our community is how big its gotten so fast, With any rapid growth of a community some bad apples are bound to be amongst the general public. Have a good day buddy, try to relax a bit. it isnt that serious

                                                          [–]liuur 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I've been vaping for about a year now and still barely know anything about it besides different flavors. If I can get away with vaping a Red Bull instead of having a cigarette and drinking a Red Bull that's all I NEED to know IMO. Most of the people I know who vape do it for the same reasons. Any group that gets big enough has dicks or people who like to brag about how deeply they're into something. I'm just sorry it's turned you off to the whole thing.

                                                          [–]SigmaTheDJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          For me vaping is a replacement for smoking and....... erm, that's it. I can't say I really understand the whole "chucking clouds" thing. Anyone could buy the gear to do that, but what's the point? All I care is that I get nice flavour from my juice and that it satisfies my nicotine addiction so I'm not tempted to go back to smoking.

                                                          [–]Dreamtallica 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          There is Vaping: The Hobby and Vaping: To get off Tobacco. Two different paradigms that often coexist. The Hobby portion of it, depends how far you want to get into it and honestly if you're devoting time to something you enjoy, you take pride in mentioning your progress to people.

                                                          Now, there are ways to mention those things without coming off like an uberdouche, but, that's beyond me to generalize. But, to those who just love to show a build off or a device, who cares? Does it really hurt you that you don't do it? Does it really hurt anyone?

                                                          It might if we all do something to make a stereotype, but the stereotype only exists now is, "How big of clouds can that blow?". People think clouds are cool. It's dumb, but I do too. But, clouds are a byproduct of the fact I vape at 80w. I like that heat. I'm not trying to say I'm better than anyone, because I'm not. If the average joe likes an iStick30 at 1.2ohms then great! Which brings me to my next part.

                                                          Now, just vaping to get off of Tobacco is one thing that is different. They don't care what it is, as long as it works.

                                                          [–]iliketowearhoodiesiPV D2 x Kanger Subtank Mini 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I'm glad I don't know any vapeholes. I have friends that vape but it's all just friendly. We try out each other's rigs, talk about what juice we like. Just a friendly thing to bond over I guess.

                                                          Then again I don't hang out with douche bags in the first place so that might be why I don't experience "vapeholes."

                                                          [–]DarthRTFMΩ <--Golden OHMS--> Ω 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I'm sad to hear that you're going to stop vaping over this...

                                                          You are correct, in almost every way, and I like you feel exactly the same way about the vast majority of the vaping scene. It's become exactly like car culture which I also used to love, but also turned into stupid douchebaggery.

                                                          People don't bother to learn anything, and treat reviewers like celebrities and treat their word as gospel, but they know just as little about the stuff as the viewers.

                                                          I get it, I do, but if you love vaping, you can still vape, and enjoy it sans-vape scene. I do... I don't get involved anymore, but I still vape. It's up to you, but don't quit just because of the people if you really enjoy it.

                                                          Here's an internet high-five, and a bro-hug (no-homo) from someone who feels your pain... Fight the good fight, and keep vaping.

                                                          [–]Eliquidmaster4.5 yrs vaping 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You make some points that definitely need to be addressed by the community. But like usual...we have gotten lost in the commotion and have all forgotten the amazing side of vaping we all loved 2 years ago. The fact that we all quit smoking because of it and the amazing flavors we can now vape! Don't give up on vaping and go back to smoking. Maybe take a break from the social side of it.

                                                          [–]Nosfet 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You dont have to be part of a community to enjoy vaping. I was never part of a tobacco community when I smoked cigs.

                                                          [–]lonelliott 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I can agree with a lot of what he said. I travel a shit ton for work. Like 3 weeks a month. I go to vape shops all over the country and its always the same thing. Sure, there are some great vape shops but the majority of them look like an 18 year old opened a store and just lets his friends hang out. Talking shit about my setup as I walk in to try their wares. Its no good for anyone.

                                                          [–]bbcard1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I like you. You seem sensible and your arguments are cogent and well articulated. Post more often!

                                                          [–]LatnemurtsniMechModMasterRace 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You're a cool dude. Most of this "community" sucks.

                                                          [–]ItwasMothmensMVP 3 Pro + Triton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I just got an MVP 3.0 Pro in the mail today. I posted a picture because I was excited that I got an upgrade from my pretty now ancient itaste SVD. Some guy proceeded to call it a 'piece of shit kit'.

                                                          After talking to him for about 20 minutes, I realized our mindsets were pretty different about vaping. This guy was all about cloud comps and chasing the biggest clouds possible. He told me he spent $1000s on devices, batteries, and diy juice. He still smokes cigarettes regularly as well.

                                                          Me on the other hand; I've been off cigarettes for 4 years. Started out with a Blu cigalike, then an ego-twist, a VAMO v2, itaste SVD, and lastly a MVP 3.0 Pro. Vaping isn't a hobby to me where I spend money and want all the latest RDA/RBAs. I just vape to stay off of analogs and upgrade when necessary to newer technology.

                                                          I have no qualms with people who want to chase clouds and all that, but I know where the OP is coming from with these elitists who feel the need to talk down to those that don't care for such things.

                                                          [–]SteamBeard 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Ha ha ha ha Bravo my friend. I've been saying pretty much the same thing for quite a while now. There are vaper's that i love, But as a whole the community is fucking worthless. Carry on my wayward son, carry on

                                                          [–]xBOYD 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Is it weird that the voice I heard when I read this was Kyle from South Park?

                                                          [–]johnnywatts 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I think when you say you're "done with vaping", you really meant you're done with the community.

                                                          I rarely ever post in this sub, but I vape all day every day. I think most people who use vapes don't have any attachment to it beyond quitting cigarettes.

                                                          Just this last Saturday, I was in a bar in the middle of bumfuck nowhere (Oshkosh Wisconsin). There was a dude there who must've been 70+ using a subtank with a box mod chucking clouds.

                                                          I seriously doubt said dude spends his time bragging about his subohm build and "massive clouds brah" on Reddit.

                                                          [–]FL_SportsmanDark and Mellow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          i have been vaping for 3-4 years now. I almost gave up in the beginning because it was such a hassle to get a decent puff. Pre Egos and protanks. I did give up for a while.I don't have time to wrap super mario triple diamond x coils or whatever. I came back mostly because cigars stink. I want something i can pick up and use without struggling. I live in a college town and you cant walk into the vape shops without the dorm bros being in there chucking fat cock clouds. I was in one afternoon to grab some aspire coils cause they just work and there was a lady and her husband in trying to quit smoking with an big ass stick mod he had sold her. he had all these giant double battery mods out with giant tanks showing her how big his clouds were. She was on the verge of walking out and i interrupted his useless sales tactic. She had no desire for all that and he just didn't get it. I said look at what i have, and explained its somewhat small, you can vape without sounding like a tornado and it doesn't roll off the counter when you sit it down. Vape bro was pissed but the lady walked out spending less than $80. I have spoken with her a few times since and she has thanked me every time. I was at a point of starting my own shop at one time. I had bought 100 Evods when the were the thing. The change in the community changed my mind about a vape shop. I am willing to help people but i just don't see the love of competition vaping. But BRO its Healthy. No, doing stuff in moderation is less dangerous. Your just an ass hole and everyone around thinks all vapors are asshats because of you. I dont even post on the /r/ecig forums for that reason anymore but this just caught me in the right mood.

                                                          [–]Xafilah 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Filthy casual.

                                                          [–]JonSlang 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          For real, I don't get why vaping is considered a hobby. Vape enthusiast? Sounds ridiculous, most of these kids at these shops are chumps. Do people consider smoking cigarettes a hobby it's more like an addiction. My girlfriend used to work at a shop as well and I can tell you that most people that hang out at these shops think vaping makes them look so cool and another thing they weird me out by how much they're into vaping. Seriously you have nothing better to do but chill in a vape shop for hours. I hope you guys understand that the people in the shops are not your friends they see you as dollar signs.

                                                          [–]Renfah87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Couldn't agree more. Makes me sick to see what this industry has turned in to

                                                          [–]AnoK760 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          sounds like you hate douchebags... not vaping.

                                                          [–]3Five9sThree5Nines 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Well said, I wish you nothing but the best.

                                                          [–]camerajunkie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Majority of vapers I meet are decent folk, every so often I see a pack of 2 at the b&m, but that's just the b&m.

                                                          Eating brunch with the wife and my sister this past Sunday. A young guy comes to eat at a table outside with his girlfriend, starts puffing on his E-Vic VT, not chucking massive clouds. Notices us, and politely apologizes. I say no big deal, its not blowing in our face and I show him my Reosmods, that was it. We politely nodded and continued with our Sunday brunch. NBD.

                                                          I rarely see vapeholes, when I do they're at the B&M, and even the owner doesn't want them there, but he can't say no. They tried to make fun of my beard, owner defended me because we're cool like that and have mutual respect. The young guys where assholes even if they weren't vapers. They where surf douches. Douches will always exist. Self entitled 90's/00's kids will always exist, in every generation. I guarantee you when we were younger we where probably just as bad.

                                                          [–]QuantumDisruptionSMPL x Orchid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Upvote because the community was bound to piss someone off this much and this is fucking comedy.

                                                          [–]fancy_lad_loves_you 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          That too bad sexy. Goodbye handy?

                                                          [–]SMELLS_LIKE_FARTS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Funny thing about this pointless diatribe is that you did it to yourself by immersing yourself in the worst parts of the vaping world. That and you sound like a whiny child. Grow up.

                                                          [–]Orderdrake 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          We could all bash this guy like he bashed us. But think just for a second. What happened to this guy to finally make him "snap"? Feel bad for the guy. I bet he was like a lot of us and this was a interest of his. To bad a someone or a few really got under his skin.

                                                          [–]enigmatic360I'm not a dragon. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You do sound like an asshole. I don't know who you're associating with but by any logic you must be an idiot yourself. I haven't met more than a handful of vapors around me who irritated me. Then again I have an actual objective in life, I don't work in retail.

                                                          [–]949000Aero 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          >Decent points about how people in the community give vaping a bad name

                                                          >Username is pm_me_assntitties

                                                          [–]quarterbreed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          For some reason I read that like a response from a yelp review about Amy's Bakery.

                                                          [–]philefluxx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          WoW loses 5 million subs and the vap community goes to shite.... Coincidence or Chopper 4?

                                                          [–]MarixD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          My computer is faster than yours, and my car... Wait, never mind, I drive an old Buick.

                                                          [–]anthonyalmighty 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Now THIS is a rage quit.

                                                          [–]latiii 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Bro I hear you! Lol there are so many douche bags who all they do is brag and blah blah blah. But there are people who are on the other on the flip as well. I've met some pretty good people out there who are really friendly and a bunch more who are really helpful. But I understand why you'd be angry.

                                                          [–]redbicDavid @ www.Giant-Vapor.com 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Sorry you only know assholes. You need to broaden your horizons.

                                                          [–]KingJacobThe1st 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          And he's saying we're the shitheads...

                                                          [–]dr_bloodmoney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I don't know, my local B&M seems pretty fucking cool. When I first went in they talked me out of buying super cheap shit as well as super expensive shit. They set me up with a good package and let me try so much juice, I had to tell the guy I couldn't take it anymore. Later I went back and the guy in there taught me how to build coils and wick and spent a lot of time doing it. Lots of people just hanging out there vaping and talking. When I tried to buy some top of the line dripper, dude told me to hold off and learn about it first. Sold me the Tobeco Plume Veil clone instead and said it was perfect for "where I was at". I think OP's shop must have been different.

                                                          [–]creamywizard 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          this is such a ridiculous generalization.. and vaping is not a lifestyle it's not even a hobby to most people. Tt's just a thing that people like to do, like watching netflix or eating celery

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