Genna has banned reddit.

StandingCow · 8時間前

This is probably the only way to keep TB off it from his main PC... assuming she did it via their router or some sort of parental controls. Now if he also can't get to it via his smartphone we should be golden.

This should significantly help TB's mental health since he just couldn't help himself.

Still though... my god has this all been blown out of proportion.

Edit: Good idea to listen to this, TB just put this out about this entire situation: https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/mental-health

Nimbal · 6時間前

Here's something I'm honestly wondering about: How are viewers supposed to give feedback beyond YouTube's simplistic "like / dislike"? YouTube comments are disabled, this subreddit is all but abandoned by the Bains and the "About" section on the YouTube channel has a single contact address that only seems to be meant for business inquiries.

Do they expect us to compress it into 140 characters and tweet them? Do they want feedback at all?

Flashmanic · 7時間前

This has been a great example of how everything on the internet gets blown waaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

TB overreacted to the comments about the podcast, the subreddit overreacted to TB's comments. Then Genna and TB both overreacted to the subreddit (again).

In other words, this has become, like most things on the internet, a shitstorm for absolutely no reason. And now the result is TB has cut himself off from his audience even further than he already has done.

Darksoldierr · 5時間前

Why tweet about it?

Herlock · 5時間前

I like TB and Genna (although I don't quite follow up what she does), but this is plain stupid.

What's the point of advertising a router ban (which can be overruled very easily anyway) ?

"I banned a certain domain"

that's just fishing for "which one did you ban ?"

Was there really a need to escalate things like this ? She could have done it and that's all, what good comes out of throwing gasoline at the issue ?

I don't understand this attitude. While your random anonymous redditor can say stupid thing, they are public figures and should know better.

TB is a smart person, I expect him to know better than this how social medias work.

It's even more ridiculous that this comes from a completely insignificant issue to begin with. It's been blown out of proportion for no good reason.

Interference22 · 5時間前

Some of the condescending replies take the cake: "I've heard Reddit is really toxic." Coming from Twitter, the foremost source of internet hate in a generation, that's a bit rich.

ComputerJerk · 5時間前

For people who have repeatedly said that Twitter is a terrible platform for discourse, they sure seem to believe in having as little actual discourse as humanly possible.

I'd say good riddance since they've been nothing but a pox on their fanbase recently, but it's not going to stop them from sniping at us from Twitter.

It's OK though right? Because if I'm a "Real" fan I'll create a twitter account and have absolutely zero productive interactions?

Atlare · 7時間前

Her account has also been banned from the subreddit.

aullik · 5時間前

I hope she blocks twitter next.

Its really sad to say, but the critical tb just doesnt seem to be able to take criticism

CBCronin · 6時間前

Didn't want to think this before but, whole thing feels as if it has more to do with what occurred during and as a result of the reddit blackout than this issue at all.

You don't silence your only reliable means of critique, so that you can live in a twitter echo-chamber, and expect your level of quality to remain high. "Twitter is a horrible medium for sharing ideas", how many times have we heard this?

SeaJayCJ · 7時間前

Remember when TB said he'd stop reading the subreddit? Maybe he actually will now, haha.

DeMilan · 5時間前

Sorry for being somewhat off-topic, but what the hell happened? I've seen some posts indicating that some reddit-related drama happened but that's all I know.

An explanation would be great!

NonRock · 7時間前

The only thing I find interesting is how many people that replied to the tweet refer to reddit as a bad place.

croppergib · 7時間前

It's like they're the Amy's Bakery of Youtube right now. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

Arathian · 6時間前

This whole thing is retarded.

Some people thought a whatever person, little girl apparently, was annoying. This somehow leads to a shitstorm.

I am out, good luck.

kk__ · 6時間前

wow, TB overreacted, threw a tantrum and his wife banned him from reddit. This seriously sounds like TB acting like a child and his wife treating him like an overprotective spoiling mother.

mortavius2525 · 4時間前

It's sad that it's come to this. Because it was completely preventable.

You know what would have fixed this entire thing?

If TB and Genna had not been vocal about it on twitter.

That's it. That's where the fatal mistake was made.

I understand from TBs recent soundcloud that there were some disturbing comments about a child on the subreddit. I never saw them, but I was late to the discussion; I believe TB when he says by then they were either downvoted or deleted.

I don't blame TB for not wanting child hate comments on the subreddit bearing his name. Whether he's involved or not, the fact it has his name on it creates an association.

What they SHOULD have done, is contacted the mods privately. They should have said something like "We don't like these comments here. We request that you remove them; if not, we'll be forced to disassociate with the subreddit (as is their right)."

Now, some people hate any kind of moderation on reddit. But when the reddit is as closely tied to an individual as this one is, it's different. It's not like this is a general subreddit like /r/gaming or something. Anything posted here can be associated with TB, good or ill.

Anyways, presumably the mods would take a look at the comments and remove them, as they probably fell under rule #5.

The end result? The offending comments would have been removed, no one would have known TBs concerns, and the goal would have been accomplished. Nothing would have blown up, no one would be complaining about people complaining, etc.

PS: I find it slightly annoying that these past few days seem to have generated comments that enraged Genna and TB so much they've left reddit. Especially when for months, virtually every week there would be a new post here about someone thanking TB, or praising him, or some such. It's like all those good posts were just completely forgotten about, because a small number of jerks made the front page.

ElmoTrooper · 6時間前

Wait so we can actually say shit without worrying whether TB will call us horrible people? Cool. I was worried it was going to happen every other week. So many people tried to be respectful in their responses, communicating their feelings, and this is what TB takes away from it? People here love him, man, and it sucks for them to be burned so often.

konraddo · 5時間前

This is getting out of control. And my humble opinion is they hire experts to help them, rather than believing that they can resolve everything on their own.

For one thing, they need a communications manager to assist them in external communications. TB is a star but not just a reporter so people don't just focus on your work. They aLao focus and judge your appearance, personality, as well as what you do, who you meet, etc. The best way to resist things that you don't want to know or see is to let someone else to look at them and not tell you that. That person cannot be anyone who exists in your non work life because that person will forget and share with you those horrible things at dinner or bed. And this is not what you want to happen.

GiantSquidBoy · 4時間前

Or just stop going on reddit... it's not hard. I don't like certain websites, and I don't go on them! MAGICAL. I'M A WIZARD.

Zankman · 6時間前

Sad state of affairs and as some others have said, this was all blown out of proportion (first by them, then by us, then by them again).

It's sad that a simple disagreement on what comments are "too mean" has led to this.

Literately the only thing they needed to do was say:

"In our opinion, the average comment in the relevant Podcast thread is a bit too mean, even if the authors didn't intend it that way. Please, try not to be too harsh and inconsiderate, as your throwaway comments of mild annoyance might be very painful and hurtful for someone, since who knows who might be reading the thread.

We understand that there are some audio issues with this episode and we will, as per usual, do our best to prevent more of the same in the future."

If only they had responded this way and prevented any of this nonsense.

Thing124ok · 2時間前

I'm sorry this sounds so much like TB is a nuaghty kid it's hilarious.

bathrobehero · 6時間前

Here we go again. What's the use of telling it to the world on twitter that she blocked reddit? If they were unable to come to the source of the problem and communicate, what could they possibly hope to achieve by talking about it on twitter to a different demographic who doesn't know any better?

From now on I'll avoid/skip any content from TB that is either outside of gaming or even remotely serious and keep watching his otherwise great gaming content.

ngauge · 6時間前

Im over it all now. Im no longer subbed to TB's channels on Youtube and Twitch, or his Twitter. Im just over he's antics and the way he seems to court controversy.

There was a time when i appreciated the content he made and the point of view he brought to subjects. But now it just isn't worth the emotional baggage that goes along with it. For a while now ive come away from his videos feeling pretty crappy about things, and i no longer want to associate with something that causes that.

Maybe one day it'll be like the good ol' Blue Plz days and we can all sit down and talk openly about games (and only games) and what make's em good/bad. But until then im out TB.

Lynks31 · 5時間前

EDIT: After listening to TB's soundcloud, I have to again think about other factors, and not spill shit without knowing the full context. I apologize.

QyuBurt_ · 5時間前

To start with I didn't really give too much of a shit, but at this stage they are shooting themselves in the foot a bit. This entire situation has been blown incredibly out of proportion, and at this stage the only way to actually get involved with any of TBs videos is via Twitter, which I don't fucking use.

I'm losing interest in his channel to be honest.

RedheadAgatha · 4時間前

Bye, Genna o/

Nivius · 7時間前

And /r/Cynicalbrit have banned genna.

this is a real soup of events

FinalXevv · 6時間前

Glad I won't have to see another overblown rant on twitter about a few isolated mildly offensive comment, which are usually downvoted.

Couldn't give less of a shit about his sanity or whatever, just want to enjoy his vids without his drama queen tendency.

Valiantttt · 7時間前

Sad that it has been blown up so much but I guess it is for the best.

Although I regret looking at some of the twitter replies because my god, that is a toxic bunch of replies.

KingGak · 6時間前

Works for me. Hopefully we can be done with this affair now.

Talk about first world problems.

PotCounts · 53分前

To the moderators that kept this place clean. Thank you for the hard work.

InvisiblE182 · 6時間前

That is probably good thing, but they really should take away TBs twitter again. He said multiple times that it is the worst medium for sharing opinions. He is right and it really is not working out for him.

thefluffyburrito · 3時間前

I used to come to this subreddit to comment on any videos TB came out with. Knowing that this subreddit is really no longer connected to TB in any way is really strange.

If there's one thing that will alienate TB from his community it's his ego getting too out of control. First he silences reddit, next he silences twitter after a comment there annoys him, and then everyone gets fed up that they have no way of communicating or providing feedback and they will leave. Reading about this whole situation makes him sound like a gigantic hypocrite for his attitude of lumping everyone into the same group and sifting out only negative comments.

Singami · 3時間前

Never have I felt so threatened to be someone's fan.

I wanted to buy one of his shirts once. But I've realized that - like it happened with one e-celeb already - he or Genna might just randomly lash out on me, if I leave a comment they won't like. If reading a bad comment from a fan hurts TB, then imagine how hurtful it must be to be attacked by someone you held as part of your daily routine. Imagine that happening, when you own a shirt with that person's brand.

ExplosionSanta · 6時間前

Fine by me.

Whenever TB and his audience interact with each other, the result is unpleasant.

Just keep doing what you're doing and pretend we're nice people.

Ekaros · 7時間前

Good for them and good for us.

DeoFayte · 5時間前

Little reminder that the people we look to for entertaining content and opinions are still people.

I think that's a mistake but I don't know either of them personally, maybe it is for the best.

Quite frankly anything that encourages this wind to die down and the sub to go back to discussion about Totalbiscuits content instead of discussion about his personal actions is a step in the right direction.

TweetPoster · 8時間前

@GennaBain:

2015-09-10 01:53:18 UTC

Did everyone a solid tonight and blocked a certain domain from the network level. Hoping this improves matters for everyone involved.

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Regal_Elkstone · 5時間前

So the question is.. when does it end? Youtube got closed off, the Unofficial Subreddit has now been blacklisted. Twitter will probably follow it some point soon

I enjoy TBs content, he does good work with a great consistency but this level of publicity does seem to have a serious unhealthy effect on him and it's nothing to do with vocal minorities or even the drama spats like this. It's just the steady inflow of high expectations and wide demographics that while you can please most of, you can never please all of it which isn't great for someone with such a high bar for self moderation

Which is sadly going to be there for as long as TB is still being talked about. Not really much anyone can do

Helmite · 4時間前

This is pretty ridiculous. She may as well block their connections to Twitter as well considering past shenanigans. You'd hope people in this sort of business would be more PR savvy by now, but this stuff has really only managed to make lots of bad impressions.

Also it's great how rather than discuss things with people on here they'd rather just dump on Reddit from their Twitter chairs. Fabulous.

Hoshiyuu · 3時間前

You know what? I am okay with this. I enjoy TB's content, but god, he is such a whiny hypocrite that does the exact thing he set out to stop.

We have extremely competent and reasonable mod running this sub, and those who want to join a discussion will find their way here eventually. This is a subreddit on Reddit, the only thing TB and Genna can do is not come here themselves, they can't control everyone else.

And seriously, arent Genna suppose to be the mature one of the duo? This whole "hur look at me I am banning a certain you-know-who who is totally-reddit because no one side with my husband even if he's the one who is blowing things out of proportions" while tweeting it in an very baity attention seeking way is the last thing I would expect from her.

f0rmality · 2時間前

Is it just me or is everyone else getting sick and tired of their melodrama? I mean ffs it's an Internet forum, get over yourselves.

MrFancyPantsu · 6時間前

Quoting Joe Shmoe The Third here: "lol, this is gr8. TB is such a child you have to block a website so he doesn't look at the comments he doesn't like and get mad." So true.

MARsDoesNothing · 3時間前

To be honest that's kinda pathetic. TB is close to 30 years old, he shouldn't need netnanny to keep him from making an ass of himself.

Mobius04 · 2時間前

Genna and TB should do whatever they feel is necessary for their welfare and peace of mind. If that means having less contact with the subreddit then that's what's going to happen.

In the unlikely case they glance at this thread, you made the right call. Take care of yourselves.

Linkin_G · 1時間前

I found it funny that the guy called reddit internet cancer while using Twitter lol. The irony.

Nilja · 1時間前

I believe this to be wise if they're not mature enough to handle feedback or the opinions of others. We'll hear less about us getting carpet blamed for the actions of a few individuals, and they can go about thinking whatever they think is 100% correct.

seign · 1時間前

All of this drama is way over the top and ridiculous. TB should simply stick to doing what he does best, giving in-depth, well thought out and spoken reviews of video games. On the flip side, the community could do well by sticking to discussing said reviews and leave the silly personal stuff out of it.

All of this over a kid laughing? ugh...

NewGuy1414 · 57分前

I agree with the person who suggested a community manager. It's really their best option. Too bad they won't be able to to see suggestions like this now that they've blocked reddit off.

redenti · 7時間前

i suppose it's for the best.

Ceraunius · 6時間前

Eh, honestly I'm not surprised. This is probably for the best for both parties.

TB will be happier because, by his own admission, he has little in the way of self-control when it comes to digging for negative feedback. As someone who is a content creator himself (though not anywhere near on the level of TB, obviously) I can understand that entirely. Even if you get 100 comments saying you did a good job, there will always be that one comment that sticks in your mind. Someone calls you a dick, or says your content sucks, or that you have no talent what-so-ever, and that's what stays with you. It's not healthy, but it happens. After beating fucking cancer, I'd say TB's earned the right to block out people he sees as having a negative impact on his mental health.

On our side of things, we can be more honest and open about what we think. I know for a fact that people here have played things very safe for fear of being seen as unwanted by TB Senpai. I'm not saying this means everyone should start being complete dicks, but at least now maybe we'll see some more honest opinions.

But ultimately, it's not TB's interaction with his fanbase (or lack thereof) that I continue watching his videos for. I watch the channel because he consistently puts out high-quality content about PC ports and issues that matter to PC gamers.

There's also the co-optional podcast, of course, which I tune in for because the play between TB, Jesse and Dodger remains amazing, especially when they have a good guest on. I vote for making Crendor and Jim Sterling permanent members of the show.

Gijsdj98 · 4時間前

this is just stupid...

NoVeMoRe · 4時間前

And there i was, thinking it was finally over with TB's latest soundcloud, but apparently not. Here we go with another wave of unneeded drama...
All of this certainly does leave a very bad taste in my mouth, so a few bad apples managed to spoil the bunch and now we're all getting thrown under the bus by them, wtf?

I'm sorry, but as someone who had nothing to do with the most recent drama and even downvoted all the offensive comments, i'm actually kinda pissed now at the fact that we all got the boot and will no longer have simple and direct means to share content, give feedback etc. to them anymore.

If you want to distance yourself from your subscriber base, sure i can understand that somewhat, but you could at least do it in an less assholish way and not right after some major drama had finally passed.

It's been about 7 or so years since i've started to follow TB's content and this is actually the very first time i'm honestly really pissed and really disappointed at them.

some_canuck · 4時間前

you just keep digging the hole even deeper...

Phugu · 3時間前

TB has changed. Back then I had the feeling he was "one of us": A gamer, a guy that is not afraid to to say what he thinks.
Now to me he is more like a bitter, political correct Youtuber.

It's not fun to watch his videos anymore, it does not seem like he is having fun making them anymore. I still watch them, they are still good in a way, but they are not fun.

He dishes out but can't take punches. I miss the old TB.

malfurionpre · 3時間前

For someone who criticise a lot, TB sure can't handle any (nor Genna apparently)

That's pretty sad ...

Pharmakokinetic · 2時間前

Gee, maybe because every single time someone makes a decision and explicitly states it's the loud minority of people making it difficult to want to sift through certain content on the subreddit, that same loud minority makes a thread like this and every comment is just bitching about how much they must hate their fanbase? Check my comment in the last thread where Genna, in her subsequent tweets to the one saying she's done with the subreddit, explicitly states she's fully aware it's not the entire community:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/3k8hqy/wow_i_am_so_done_with_this_socalled_subreddit/cuvtct3

But still, everyone ignored this and hung onto the one main negative bit. The exact same thing all of these comments are chastising TB himself for. And the same people who keep saying that tweeting to 450k followers about something a subreddit with ~55k subscribers aren't realizing how statistically insignificant their "loud minority" is: you're not going to be alienating most of the moderate people or the browsers. Some, yes. But again, it's such a small part of the fanbase that can't get it through their skulls that bitching about bitching about bitching about bitching might not be the best way to improve this "image" of yourselves you're all so worried about maintaining for whatever reason. You're statistically insignificant and if it affects your viewership: oh well! Too bad he lost those ~100 completely irrational people to one reason or another.

Keep crying "thought police" and whatever other nonsense, hold up the mirror and actually look at the whole context instead of just reacting to things and maybe you'll mitigate the cycle before it spirals completely out of control unnecessarily like this. You guys did this to yourselves.

metaldragon199 · 4時間前

why is there always drama over tiny idiotic shit in video gaming communities

why cant we just stick to the games

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