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[#34|+2165|512] TIL: Men and women experience near equal levels of online harassment, women are more likely to be upset by it. [/r/todayilearned] (reddit.com)
FrontpageWatch が 12時間前 投稿
[–]over-my-head 85ポイント86ポイント87ポイント 11時間前 (64子コメント)
Directly from the Pew Research link that the TIL is sourced from:
Young women (ages 18 to 24) are particularly vulnerable to some of the more serious forms of online harassment, according to our 2014 survey. They are significantly more likely to say they have been stalked or sexually harassed than men, although roughly equal shares of both young men and women say they have been physically threatened or were victims of sustained harassment. Women are also more likely than men to see online harassment as traumatic. Nearly four-in-ten (38%) women who experienced it found it extremely or very upsetting compared with 17% of men.
Young women (ages 18 to 24) are particularly vulnerable to some of the more serious forms of online harassment, according to our 2014 survey. They are significantly more likely to say they have been stalked or sexually harassed than men, although roughly equal shares of both young men and women say they have been physically threatened or were victims of sustained harassment.
Women are also more likely than men to see online harassment as traumatic. Nearly four-in-ten (38%) women who experienced it found it extremely or very upsetting compared with 17% of men.
The Pew Research Center is a reputable source for statistical data compiled through surveys. From Wikipedia:
The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan American think tank based in Washington, D.C., that provides information on social issues, public opinion, and demographic trends shaping the United States and the world. It conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis, and other empirical social science research. It does not take explicit policy positions.
Why was this post deleted from /r/todayilearned?
[–]Pointless_arguments 94ポイント95ポイント96ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
It goes against the "women are oppressed" narrative
[–]TwoTailedFox 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 28分前 (0子コメント)
Why was this post deleted from /r/todayilearned[2] ?
Because the mods are Authoritarian Radical Feminists.
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 7時間前 (29子コメント)
Because the study's results do not imply the headline.
[–]Daktush[🍰] 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 6時間前* (28子コメント)
Results say exactly what the headline says though. Women and men get harassed equally yet women are more vulnerable to it
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-28ポイント-27ポイント-26ポイント 6時間前 (27子コメント)
The study does not show they get harassed equally. The researchers did not measure severity. Nor did they measure frequency. They did measure what types of harassment people experienced, summarized in this graph: http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2014/11/FT_Online-Harassment.png . That does not look equal to me.
The statement that women and men get harassed equally or experience it in equal levels is simply not shown by the study. It may be true, it may be false, I don't know. The study does not show.
[–]Ricwulf 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 5時間前* (13子コメント)
Re-read the title. It doesn't say equal. It says near equal, and the title is right.
EDIT: http://www.pewinternet.org/files/2014/10/PI_2014.10.22__online-harassment-15.png
Women feel more harassed. Men get harassed across the board more excluding in the Stalking and Sexual Harassment category, which I will admit will be scarier (and thus more upsetting) than most other types like being called offensive names. But, for there to be such a large increase in how upsetting it is between men and women doesn't correlate to the 6% more women (men are 10%, women are 16%) in the Stalking and Sexual Harassment categories combined.
So yeah, women probably do get some more harsh harassment, but it doesn't change the fact that they react to it more than men. If this were inversely worded to presume that the women's level of upset were the default to say "men are less upset by harassment", would that have been better? Is this stemming from how the title can imply that women are more hysterical?
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-24ポイント-23ポイント-22ポイント 4時間前 (12子コメント)
They didn't study levels of harassment, only the number of people who experienced it at any level. And even those are not near equal for all forms. For sexual harassment for example, it's 4% vs. 7%. That's 75% more!
[–]smashing3000 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 4時間前* (1子コメント)
If everyone feels differently about abuse, which the study proves, how would you measure levels which would be perceived differently be different people?
The study is valid, it could add more info, what study couldn't? To dismiss it completely as you have, with amused enjoyment, makes you part of the problem, not an enlightened, benevolent giver of information.
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm not dismissing the study, only saying that it doesn't say what you guys think it says. You're right that it may be because it's hard to measure. That changes nothing. The article does not say that men and women experience near equal levels of harassment. Because they didn't measure that.
[–]Ricwulf 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 4時間前 (9子コメント)
For sexual harassment for example, it's 4% vs. 7%. That's 75% more!
And yet, it's still only 7% of harassment.
Are you really trying to imply that the 16% of sexual harassment and stalking that women experience, the 6% more than men, is the reason for such a high difference in the levels of being upset?
Combining both the Extremely and Very Upsetting numbers, you get 17% men to 38% women. That's over 100% more.
100% more upset over 6% more harassment in solely the stalking and sexual harassment numbers. You would imagine that the numbers would line up a little, but that is not a little.
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 4時間前 (8子コメント)
We can argue about statistics if you want to, but the point is that this kind of interpretation is completely out of scope for /r/TIL. It was removed because the TIL title says something that is not in the linked article. Plain and simple.
[–]Ricwulf 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4時間前 (7子コメント)
It's directly there. Look at the title of the graph I linked you.
Women more likely to be upset by online harassment.
It's right fucking there.
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
Dude, we told you three times already that it's about the "men and women experience near equal levels of online harassment" part.
[–]DashFerLev 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間前 (5子コメント)
They do measure the severity.
Women are more likely to be upset by it.
There's no way to objectively measure the severity rather than how bad it hurt the person's feelings.
You aren't an SJW, you're just a troll.
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 1時間前 (4子コメント)
So if women's feelings are hurt more, and this indicates the harassment is more severe, how can one say the level of harassment is at a near equal level?
The main point was that the article never said that men and women experience near equal levels of online harassment. It still doesn't say that. Editorialized titles are not allowed in /r/TIL and the mods removed it. Where's the problem?
[–]DashFerLev 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前 (3子コメント)
http://www.philosophyonline.co.uk/oldsite/pom/pom_behaviourism_wittgenstein.htm
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Whether the level of harassment can be measured objectively at all is completely beside the point. The Pew researchers didn't measure it. Someone put it in the TIL title anyway. Mods remove the TIL post.
[–]DashFerLev 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I feel like you're severely harassing me right now with your disagreeing.
See how that negates the validity of any such statistic?
[–]DashFerLev -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Also I'm sorry for your downvotes. I once posted on SRD without bowing to the might of the ovary and the dogpile hurts.
[–]youdonotnome 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Found the oppressed house wife
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[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 4時間前 (4子コメント)
I'm just enjoying myself. You guys are not interested, I know that. An opportunity to rage about perceived SJW modding has presented itself and you took it. The title violated the rules for /r/TIL and was rightfully removed. You don't give a damn, because you agree with what the deleted post said. You are exactly doing what you're accusing the mods of doing, which is ignoring the rules to fit your personal opinion. With the exception that /r/undelete has no power and the mods do. I'm very much enjoying myself over the irony.
[–]smashing3000 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
People being oppressed brings you enjoyment, you sound like a clown.
[–]akai_ferret 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Opresso the Clown!
He has a hitler stache and makeup that makes him look way too serious.
He beats minority clowns with a squeaky billy club and stuffs a bunch of them in one really tiny clown prison cell.
Then he sprays the audience with a fire hose.
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
You're not being oppressed...
[–]foxh8er 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh fuck, I think I responded to the wrong guy.
It's too early. I actually agree with you 100%, the researchers did not measure severity, and yet still measured greater harassment for several types.
[+]mushr00m_man スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 7時間前 (15子コメント)
The title is clearly editorialized - it implies women are more upset by the same level of harassment. This is not what the study states, which is that women tend to receive more severe forms of harassment.
I agree fully with this deletion.
[–]marful 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 6時間前 (12子コメント)
Quotes from the article:
The more serious forms of harassment are less frequent: 10% of men and 6% of women said they had been physically threatened on online platforms and similar shares said they had been harassed for a sustained period of time, stalked or sexually harassed.
...
It doesn't "imply" anything, it strait up says it!
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
The disputed part is the "men and women experience near equal levels of harassment". The study does not show severity or frequency of harassment is comparable and actually shows unequal levels for specific types of harassment.
[–]marful 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Quoted again, because it was missed the first time:
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
.... Yes?
[+]mushr00m_man スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 5時間前 (8子コメント)
The same paragraph you cherry-picked your first quote from also says:
Young women (ages 18 to 24) are particularly vulnerable to some of the more serious forms of online harassment, according to our 2014 survey.
The article makes several more nuanced conclusions, but does NOT in any place imply or say what is being implied in the deleted thread's title.
[–]marful 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 4時間前 (7子コメント)
The post title:
TIL: Men and women experience near equal levels of online harassment, women are more likely to be upset by it.
The part I quoted from the article:
[+]mushr00m_man スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 4時間前 (6子コメント)
Yes. That's not the part of the title in dispute. It's the first part.
[–]marful 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 4時間前 (5子コメント)
From the study itself:
Overall, men are somewhat more likely than women to experience at least one of the elements of online harassment, 44% vs. 37%. In terms of specific experiences, men are more likely than women to encounter name-calling, embarrassment, and physical threats.
You're right, the first part is incorrect, men experience 7% more online harassment than women. So technically they experience online harassment more. But a 7% difference can be called "near equal", thus the title is not misleading and is supported by the data.
[+]mushr00m_man スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 4時間前 (4子コメント)
Why do you keep ignoring the giant line in the middle that says "Young women experience particularly severe forms of online harassment"?
[–]marful 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
Do men and women experience near equal levels of online harassment? Yes.
Are women more likely to get upset by it? Yes.
Ergo, the title is factually correct. You stated that this was not the case:
But the title is factually correct. Or, is your disagreement with the original post for some other reason?
[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Maybe they do, but the article does not say that.
[–]down_vote_city__ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 41分前 (0子コメント)
Are you able to substantiate any of your opinions or are you just looking to derail the argument? I'm genuinely interested because it seems it's either a problem of density or a problem of willful ignorance.
[–]fraggle-rock 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 6時間前* (1子コメント)
The only difference is harassment against males is less likely to be sexualized but telling a women she is a fat cow who nobody will ever love isn't all that different than calling a guy a fat neckbeard who is a virgin and lives in his moms basement. The difference is the man isn't likely to be as buthurt by the comments or equate it to literal rape or terrorism.
[–]DashFerLev 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
My favorite insults on Reddit are the "HOW DARE YOU BODY SHAME HER, YOU NECKBEARD!" ones.
[+]Batty-Koda スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 11時間前 (14子コメント)
I bet it would be really interesting to know. Kinda a shame this is a community that earlier today upvoted "lol not reading that" and someone claiming giving an explanation was "trashing other users." I would explain, but that'd be trashing you, sooooo wonder away. I'm out.
[–]over-my-head 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 11時間前 (2子コメント)
I just thought there would usually be a flag on the post, noting the regulation being violated.
[–]DashFerLev 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Political.
Anything remotely critical of women, Israel, or minorities is flagged as political and removed.
[–]LILwhut 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
At this point "political" just means "something I disagree with".
[–]jubbergun 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I'll assuming the petty, woe-is-me sulking routine here is because there was no valid reason to remove the post and it's easier to pull the victim card and whine like a little bitch than just own up to the fact that you and your fellows ban whatever shit you feel like banning regardless of the rules.
[–]kayakerjosh 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
The til mod club keeps this sub stocked with the most entertaining and informative content on reddit.
Thanks for your hard work.
[–]Deefry 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Batty-Koda keeps all the drama subreddits stocked with content too.
[+]Eustace_Savage スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
How's that janitor dick taste? Good, I hope?
[–]jubbergun 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Why you asking? Hoping for some of the sloppy seconds?
[–]kayakerjosh 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 50分前 (0子コメント)
It sounds funny, but I have no idea what you mean.
[–]Ricwulf 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
My god you are petty. "Boo-hoo, someone disagreed with me on the internet, I'm gonna go and be salty everywhere!"
Grow up. I'm a petty person myself, but for fucks sake learn to swallow your pride or shut-up. It's what I do.
[–]AssuredlyAThrowAwayworldnews&conspiracy mod 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
Nah, you're just scared that you'll get jumped on by people who are more intelligent than yourself :)
[–]LILwhut 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 59分前 (0子コメント)
So basically most of Reddit?
[–]ellisonch 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分前 (0子コメント)
Can you post a link to where you did explain it? I'd be interested in reading it.
[–]ngl42398 40ポイント41ポイント42ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
SJW mods at it again
[–]LILwhut 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 58分前 (0子コメント)
Something...something boogeyman and your opinion is therefore invalid.
[–]OmicronPersei8 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
This had roughly a 1 in 1 chance of ending up here.
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[+]qevlarr スコアが基準値未満のコメント-28ポイント-27ポイント-26ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
TIL: people in /r/undelete can't read
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Wrong link?
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You... you linked this page? We're already here...
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