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[–]DualPsiioniicValkyr x Zephyr OTP 75ポイント76ポイント77ポイント 1日前 (46子コメント)
Guys, come on. Whether the art style is to your liking or not this picture is hardly indecent or lewd compared to a fair amount of stuff that has been on the sub. There's been plenty of cutesy/chibi warframe fanart before but suddenly a load of people in the comments section are basically comparing this to fetish porn.
[–]arcquenOne woman party 44ポイント45ポイント46ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
a horrible place is referenced in nearly every thread, but cute non sexual images?
Too far reddit, too far.
[–]DualPsiioniicValkyr x Zephyr OTP 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
and despite the fact that Rebecca and Megan have put several anime/manga inspired cutesy warframe girls on prime times fanart section people are suddenly disgusted at seeing some completely decent fanart. It's not like the entire sub is filled with this kind of thing, the occasional posting of a certain type of art style is fine but for some reason this is the one type that some people simply wont accept.
[–]KuryakaI am mad scientist! Chaos and destroy! 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Relevant Prime Time where all of this might have started.
[–]rockstar_nailbombsCowgirl... In SPAAAAAACE 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
didn't you know, anime hate and animephile hate is the new flavor of the month, fedora and neckbeard hate is so last year
[–]LorsCarbonferriteKira Kuin: Baitsa Dasuto 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
Yeah, a lot of people on this thread are anti-anime, not anti-weeaboo. I understand being anti-weeaboo, but anti-anime is just ridiculous. I'm just waiting until the wars start, then, I will pop my popcorn upon the flame threads, and then I'll salt it with the large amount of salt that will surely be produced.
[–]Etzlo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
you gave me an idea man... I see forward to all the popcorn I gonna be eating
[–]SnakeDemandsAnswers 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
And yet everyone was fine with the sexualized Kubrow.
[–]Abedeus 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 1日前 (20子コメント)
But... I can see that it's a FEMALE portrayed in this drawing.
And as we all know, female artwork is always sexual and perverse no matter what the content is or what the author's intention was, as in this case it might be mildly humorous "what if" situation.
Also I love how you can detect how (some of the) people here propagate the stereotypical American media state of mind.
Grimdark universe with blood and limbs flying everywhere? Okay, we like it!
Someone drawing a cutesy art with a character from said grimdark universe in a comedic situation? THE HORROR, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
[–]SunajaRage Kitty 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
And as we all know, female artwork is always sexual and perverse no matter what the content is or what the author's intention was
Reminds me of this video.
[+]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 1日前 (18子コメント)
Damn, you caught us! All of us who didn't like this picture are all shills for the massive global conspiracy to suppress everything that doesn't fit the mass-media narrative!
Please. If you're so upset by 'some people' generalizing everyone who likes this, then shouldn't you not generalize in return?
[–]Abedeus 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1日前 (17子コメント)
Okay, I won't generalize if you don't like it.
You were one of those people who said that "MUH STORY IS SO DARK, PLS NO CUTE STUFF". You find it an artwork of a Nova drawn as a loli more offensive than said blood, gore and violence in the game and universe in general.
[+]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 1日前 (9子コメント)
Because that's exactly how I phrased my criticism. You don't seem to be understanding my point, so I'll try explaining myself as clearly as possible. The reason why I am against this post and have made the comments I have is because I believe this drawing adds nothing of value to the Warframe community. If you want to join some other community to look at art of sexualized little girls, be my guest. But don't drag that shit in here. To clarify: blood and gore is not offensive to me. Things being cute is not offensive to me. But a) I don't think that they mixed well in this particular instance, and b) I don't even think this is 'cute' to begin with. It is creepy.
[–]KingMe42Can I build you a ladder, so you can get off my back 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20時間前 (8子コメント)
Fan art has plenty of value in any community. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not valuable. Did you know Nova was fan concept? Did you know Zephyr too?
[–]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 19時間前 (7子コメント)
I mean, the 'value' of art is pretty much entirely constituted by whether or not people like it. And I've been with the game since it entered open beta, and unless I'm remembering things way wrong the Nova and Zephyr concepts were not originally introduced as little girls.
[–]KingMe42Can I build you a ladder, so you can get off my back 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19時間前 (6子コメント)
You are wrong actually. this was circulating around before nova was released as her inspiration. And guess from where it's from.
[–]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 18時間前 (5子コメント)
Let's just agree to disagree. This thread is starting to get old and it's obvious nobody is changing anyone's mind.
[–]KingMe42Can I build you a ladder, so you can get off my back 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 18時間前 (4子コメント)
I literally just proved you wrong. But ok.
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13ポイント-12ポイント-11ポイント 1日前 (6子コメント)
I think that you're missing the point here.
[–]Abedeus 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
Is it "I'm offended that people like drawings that I don't like"?
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16ポイント-15ポイント-14ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
It's "I don't like that subreddit dedicated to my favorite game is constantly being filled with barely related trash"
[–]walldough 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
The only thing worse than all the "barely related trash," the constant stream of years old first person bugs, screen shots of skyboxes everyone has seen a thousand times over, is the toxic bullshit on display in this thread, and dozens of others.
At least the people posting sky box pictures or fanart, or whatever are trying to contribute something. Only thing happening here is everyone forgot to be excellent to each. Now we're lucky if a mod enforces that golden rule.
This is so dumb. Thanks everyone.
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13ポイント-12ポイント-11ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
This is so dumb.
Yeah, that's exactly what i mean. With only difference that i would choose abscence of content over mountain of worthless trash. It's up to users like us to decide "what's good and what's junk". Don't know about you, but i've decided that this is junk which doesn't contribute anything to this subreddit. My reasoning is somewhere in this thread, probably under "downvoted" spoiler. Not sure what do you expect from moderators, but if they can teach kids to use voting system as it was intended - that'd be nice.
[–]walldough 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I think I'll take whatever over people throwing a pissy fit over anime junk not meshing with their Warframe head canon.
I'm sure you "know where to put it."
[–]Abedeus 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Not sure what do you expect from moderators, but if they can teach kids to use voting system as it was intended - that'd be nice.
Well I for one downvote shit that doesn't contribute to discussion, like whining and complaining that others enjoy stuff I don't enjoy.
Get RES and filter out [ART] tags. Or, I dunno, don't look at them?
I know, it's tough when you only want to look at grimdark bloody edgy muscle men in powersuit shooting monsters, those filthy lolis are just disgusting.
[–]KuryakaI am mad scientist! Chaos and destroy! -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
This has been a thing for a while especially with UDPR's art, but I haven't seen it get this bad.
[+]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
So just because there's worse, we can't complain? Look, its obvious from the up/down votes how the majority of the sub's population feels, but when content you don't like continually gets up voted to the front page, the comments section is the only place left to voice your displeasure. As for the content itself, we're talking about a horrifically mutated woman from a grim-as-fuck universe being drawn as a flowers-and-sunshine little girl in a way that may or may not be suggestive. Surely you can see where the down votes/dissent comes from. And like it or not, all too often there is an underlying amount of innappropriateness in fan art (especially anime-style fan art), and I'd rather voice my displeasure now then wait to see if the sub slides down a slippery slope.
[–]GodOfDumbnessWho said the Japanese have to love tentacles? 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
That's the thing. The downvote is for things that DO NOT contribute to a certain topic or subreddit. IT IS NOT A "I DISAGREE" BUTTON. You are using the downvote INCORRECTLY if you are downvoting things that YOU do not agree with.
[–]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
Did I say I downvoted for disagreeing? No. I downvoted because I don't think this drawing adds anything of value to the community. You are free to disagree with me on that subject (but not downvote for it!). PERHAPS before you go CAPITALIZING random WORDS for EMPHASIS you should PAUSE to consider that someone could BE following the rules while having AN opinion you don't like.
[–]GodOfDumbnessWho said the Japanese have to love tentacles? -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1日前* (2子コメント)
You're using the capitalisation wrong. PAUSE pause WORDS for EMPHASIS words for emphasis Perhaps should be italisized. It is NOT random. I did capitalize "incorrectly" incorrectly but it is emphasis. The fact that you understood that it was emphasis tells me that the message got across.
I was also commenting on how your comment was being downvoted despite being a valid opinion. However, this ticked me off:
Look, its obvious from the up/down votes how the majority of the sub's population feels, but when content you don't like continually gets up voted to the front page, the comments section is the only place left to voice your displeasure.
Placing negative comments is fine. However, it can be ascertained that you downvoted this post (and as you have stated in reply). The post IS related to Warframe. It is fanart of warframe. The downvote button is not there to show your displeasure, but to show that the post has no relevancy on the subreddit. Therefore, you have downvoted incorrectly.
There are multiple posts below that are downvoted despite being completely valid such as Savletto, but your comments are being hit the hardest.
I will recognise that the last comment was directed at the wrong person. However, you are not much better than most.
EDIT: It is hard to punctuate things in text.
[–]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
Wow. I hate to break it to you, but as a matter of fact I do understand how to use capitalization for emphasis; I was poking fun at your use of it, because at the time I thought your comment was criticism directed at me. As for why I chose to downvote this post, it strikes at the core of why upvotes/downvotes are not an optimal system. From the reddiquette:
take a moment to ensure you're downvoting someone because they are not contributing to the community dialogue or discussion.
There's a lot of room there for interpretation. I don't think this post contributes to the community. I mean, we could sit here and debate the theory of reddit for hours (or just go to the sub for it), but that's besides the point. I'm fine losing some comment karma to make an argument I believe in. I do appreciate you acknowledging your mistake, I had no idea that you meant to chastise people for downvoting me.
[–]GodOfDumbnessWho said the Japanese have to love tentacles? -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
True, it is very vague. My interpretation was: If someone is simply spamming something unrelated or just spewing hate for no logical reason, they should be downvoted. I suppose that this post can be seen as not contributing since it is not a tip or question for help and does nothing to gameplay. But I see it as under the umbrella of Warframe. A sub-section if you will.
I probably should have noticed that people who downvote comments don't actually see the reply in their inbox.
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 1日前 (10子コメント)
I think it's "we are tired of this shit" type of situation. You know, this point of history when people who is tired of some shit start saying how they're tired of this shit.
[–]DualPsiioniicValkyr x Zephyr OTP 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 1日前 (8子コメント)
Tired of... fanart? Fanart consistently gets posted to this subreddit and as long as it's appropriate (and often sometimes when it isn't) it is perfectly alright. Artwork like this gets on the front page of the sub because people like it and vote for it, there's warframe related content on here for all different types because, after all, this is the warframe sub.
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 1日前* (7子コメント)
Reply was addressed to this deleted comment. It will fit here just fine.
I'm talking about this trend as a whole. Here, on this subreddit.
I can see distinction between authentic fan-art that represents the game and its vibe (1, 2, 3) from tasteless abuse of basic human instincts, certain fetishes and such, where anime, of course, excels everything else in the internet these days (1)
Fan-art i always appreciate, but i'm tired of anime knockoffs with no value other than karma farming and self-promotion taking valuable space on subreddit that i like. That's my position here.
Edit: Spelling. I edit almost every post, english is not my native language and i usually have many mistakes that i can't left untouched. Also, for some reason i can't add more links to the examples in this post, i will add them here instead: https://4x.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/3k3cij/rollers_attack_by_updr/cuusnmr
[–]arcquenOne woman party 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
soooo.. why are you replying to an entirely different person than the one who made the comment?
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[–]arcquenOne woman party 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
so wait.
what you're saying is I shouldn't be asking you this because you weren't talking to me, but it's completely okay for you to randomly reply to a person who wasn't talking to you.
huh.
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
I'm talking about this very branch of comments where you went off-topic just to pester me.
[–]arcquenOne woman party 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
no more off topic than your comment in my opinion, but eh, whatever, I don't really feel like having a "who gets the last word" fight. Opinions are opinions
[+]SavlettoI care about Warframe and that's why i criticize it. スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
For some reason i can't add more links to the examples in this post, i will add them here instead: http://toirekomoru.deviantart.com/art/warframe-nova-girl-393483149 http://udpr.deviantart.com/art/Warframe-Helios-526279270
[+]RaulHambrientoI AM BULLETPROOF スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Exactly. Straw that broke the camel's back. Except now the camel, straw, and farmer who put it there are little girls.
π Rendered by PID 12578 on app-172 at 2015-09-10 14:17:05.931348+00:00 running 7fa2ce2 country code: JP.
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