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[–]OfficialHitomiTanaka 1361ポイント1362ポイント  (270子コメント)

Judging by these comment, surfing seems like a fun an easy hobby to get into with a welcoming community.

[–]SplatterSack 210ポイント211ポイント  (27子コメント)

Point Break sums it up pretty well.

Source: I've seen Point Break.

[–]ThaFuck 538ポイント539ポイント  (133子コメント)

For real. I mean, I get that this kid might have done something against the sport's etiquette. Perhaps even dangerous.

But the comments about "localism" and "outsiders" and the violent repercussions of upsetting that seemingly fine balance of "respect" really does make the whole scene seem like some pathetic dick waving contest hinged mainly on pulp-culture movies. Which is equally lame.

I mean shit. It's the ocean. I think the fact that people think they own it is just as bad as people who come from somewhere else and think they own it.

Edit: RIP my inbox. Most are level headed replies. Some, however have trouble with reading comprehension. So before you reply: my first sentence should make it clear I acknowledge the kid is in the wrong. The rest of the post is no longer discussing the clip, but the ongoing discussion in here about surfing culture. In fact, just read the post I replied to and try to keep a grasp on context.

[–]MidnightRofl 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live in Kona, Hawaii . Its pretty welcoming just as long as you don't play yourself out to be a douche and try to show off, just be humble and don't cut off anyone in the water. It's always nice to talk to the "uncles" too.

[–]Dr_SnM 46ポイント47ポイント  (20子コメント)

It depends on the break as to how important these rules are. Some waves are very dangerous and so dropping in on someone could cause them serious injury. Whereas others are just good fun and people need to lighten up.

[–]faithle55 62ポイント63ポイント  (8子コメント)

That clip was not, in any sense, 'good fun' unless those two were friends.

[–]brettryan21 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

In the second part of his explanation, the "others" and the "people" the Doctor referred to could be replaced with "less dangerous waves" and "the locals", respectively, for clarification. He's suggesting the local surf community should not be so hostile to outsiders in areas where a surfer's lack of experience has less potential for catastrophe.

Edit: words and wording

[–]Dr_SnM 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thank kind sir for clarifying what I meant. You were much clearer than I.

[–]Maestro3780 42ポイント43ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lifelong surfer here. Neither I nor any of my buddies have ever harassed or bullied anyone for being a tourist. If someone seemed to be doing something either dangerous to themselves and/or others, we'd simply paddle over to them and suggest they not do whatever it is they're doing.

The only time I ever pulled what one might call a dick move was due to the following scenario. I was out on a relatively calm day, which means good waves were in short supply. The beach where I was surfing had a large section roped off with buoys and clearly marked "SURFING ONLY". In that area there was only me and some random guy on a boogie board. I didn't really care that he was technically breaking the rules, considering it was just the two of us. That is until the first decent break when he carved it real hard and cut in front of me just as I was jumping to my feet. So I pulled back on my board and bit my lip assuming it was an accident. Well he did it again. At that point I said something like "hey man there's plenty of room here for both of us. Let's spread out." So I paddled away from him. The next break he does it again. This time I say "look dude, I tried to be nice about this but next time you're gonna get clipped." Well wouldn't you know it, the idiot did it again. So this time instead of pulling back, I stood up and tagged him in the temple with the nose of my board. I get to shore and he starts coming at me cursing and yelling like clearly wanting to fight. At that point a lifeguard jumps out of his stand and tells the guy he had been watching us the whole time and that he thought I was being more than patient letting him slide so many times. At that point, the asshole boogie boarder tried bucking up to the lifeguard. Well after eating a bit of sand, he was finally escorted out of the surfing area.

I tell you this little anecdote because from this short gif there is no telling what this guy did or didn't do prior to this. It may be that the guy who shoved him was just being a dick for no reason. But I doubt it. Given the shit eating grin on the white guy's face, I'd be willing to wager he had it coming. Most surfers don't give a shit if you're riding the same waves we are as long as you're safe and respectful. Another possible scenario as someone already suggested is that they're friends and just messing with each other. Either way, I found it to be pretty funny.

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      [–]ThisCopIsADick 32ポイント33ポイント  (68子コメント)

      Most surfers are really nice people and will typically tell you what you did wrong before acting way, however, just like most sports there are places (leagues) for beginners, intermediates, and advanced. Again, like any sport, you should understand your level and understand where you are in the water. Although this guy is just a dick or that guy had dropped in no him a few times and he was finally over it.

      [–]u8eR 65ポイント66ポイント  (63子コメント)

      It's the fucking the ocean. It's not like he went onto an NBA court during the middle of the game to see how well he could dribble. He's surfing in the middle of the fucking ocean.

      [–]Salty_bones 38ポイント39ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Yeah, but there's a line up for a reason. It's like waiting your turn to go and some asshat cuts in front of you. That's not cool. Especially if there are tons of people in the water and the sets are far apart.

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            [–]GlazedDonutGloryHole 109ポイント110ポイント  (55子コメント)

            My uncle moved from Iowa to Kona, Hawaii after marrying a gal who was born and raised there. Even with a wife who was a native, it took my uncle a good year to really be accepted by some of the other surfers there and be able to surf a few "local only" spots. He's a super chill dude who makes friends everywhere he goes.

            There is a lot of racism towards anyone who isn't a native Pacific islander.

            [–]laihipp 41ポイント42ポイント  (12子コメント)

            even if you were Hawaiian some areas you'd have to 'earn your time' people in some spots can be really clickish

            buddy is from Diamond Head area and I know he's had problems up in north shore area for example

            [–]probablyredundantant 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

            How do you earn time? Wax the locals' boards, make them drinks, walk behind them with palm fronds for their own personal shade?

            I obviously have never been to Hawaii or on a surfboard.

            [–]blasto_pete 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Fucking show up enough times and sit around watching everyone else get their turn and hope eventually they will let you have a go without being dicks.

            [–]strumpster 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Crowded surf spots are crowded for a reason, usually.. The waves are awesome!

            People get pissed when they don't get to catch a wave for a long time.

            My solution: surf a crappier break that Perle don't care about.

            Let these chumps fight over waves. I'll be down the coast having a good time.

            Edit: touchtype

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                [–]420inthe808 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I live in Kona. The only "locals only" spots are like Lymans, Banyans, and Honls, and even there the locals are still nice and share the surf. Just don't be a dick and most people will show aloha! Good vibes and good times bradda

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                  [–]lawanhawizy 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Just started work with a client in Hawaii. Very much an 'us vs them' mentality.

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                    [–]Leopoled 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Just like dota2

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                      [–]tapport 373ポイント374ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Who else was ready for a shark attack?

                      [–]Chemicalien 516ポイント517ポイント  (33子コメント)

                      Back off, Warchild. Seriously.

                      [–]iGiveZeroFuckss 389ポイント390ポイント  (26子コメント)

                      SHOOBIES

                      [–]Justicles13 117ポイント118ポイント  (9子コメント)

                      Always getting sand in the potato salad.

                      This reminds me of the episode with the Secret Surf Spot

                      [–]AlcoholicEngineer 52ポイント53ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      Why would you care if there's sand on John Cena?

                      [–]girtgirtgirt 122ポイント123ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      I think you're confused. He said "potato salad" as in, the WWE wrestler. You seem to be thinking of John Cena, the delicious side dish.

                      [–]Donny359 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      What's the deal with John Cena? Did I miss something? This whole past week I've seen his name way more then normal! I'm out of the loop. I want to be in the loop. Somebody let me in the loop

                      [–]wuzuphomi 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Hahaha oh god I'm laughing too hard over that

                      [–]TechnoCowboy 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      🎺🎺🎺🎺

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                        [–]khaitto 54ポイント55ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        Freaking Rocket Power. Damn I miss that show.

                        [–]timpturbose 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        You only think you miss it

                        [–]l64l 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        I watch it late at night on Nickelodeon occasionally along with Cat Dog.

                        It's still good.

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                          [–]pikameta 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          We are riders... on a mission...

                          [–]missbteh 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          something something Something Something PREPARE TO COUNT DOWN ROCKET POWER!

                          [–]satansheat 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          you never snake someone in the pit brah.

                          unless you are this snake in the pit. if so you are not to be fucked with. http://imgur.com/eK3yctK

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                            [–]asp821 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I really wanted the other guy to hop on his surfboard and ride away. 🏄🏄🏄

                            [–]HippopotamicLandMass 1674ポイント1675ポイント  (738子コメント)

                            It looks like the first surfer dude dropped in on the second dude. You can see him clearly look to his left (our right), and see the other guy, and not yield. That's a basic surfing no-no.

                            EDIT: That having been said, if somebody cuts you off, do your best to avoid them. No shoving! That's a basic life no-no.

                            That having been said, if you're in Hawaii and you see the [very rare] grey goose, don't bother it; let it be. That's a ne-ne no-no.

                            Link to surfer etiquette

                            If there's more context footage of this incident, I'd like to watch it, but this perspective is all we're likely to see.

                            EDIT3: Not Hawaii. Sunzal Beach, El Salvador. Apparently, it's happened before.

                            ~~EDIT2:

                            As others have commented, surfing localism in Hawaii can get downright uncivil. It's true that if an outsider -- and even a "Hawaiian urbanite from Honolulu is considered an outsider on Oahu’s famed North Shore" -- breaches surf etiquette, he's risking vigilante punishment. In an example of what should be considered extreme, a local admitted to "beating a non-local surfer so severely that he was taken, critically injured, to a local hospital". Yikes.

                            Although such advice seems nearly un-American and against the spirit of free public access,

                            "you just need to know your place. It’s good to surf at the same spot a lot so you get familiar with people. When you go somewhere new, if there are local surfers there, respect them. You might be in their backyard. If there are old timers, respect them as well. They could’ve been surfing there for 30 years."

                            Similar point of view:

                            “It’s kind of a catch-22,” Jaquias said, admitting that foreign surfers travel from afar, spending a lot of money to surf Hawaiian waves. “But at the same time,” he said, “you gotta pay your dues. You don’t come here and jump right up into the line up and be like you own it, like you’ve always been there.”

                            I'd like to think that #NOT ALL LOCALS become violent or dickish when outsiders visit their spots. Nonetheless, there are assholes everywhere there are people, and as /u/lonesurfer posted, sometimes, one of them happens to be a local asshole surfer. Now, I wonder how that La Jolla guy would behave if he went to Hawaii? How would that guy be treated in turn?~~

                            This is a special EDIT: for /u/CuzRacecar , may your waves be always open; may you have the best barrels ever.

                            [–]Bowlslaw 452ポイント453ポイント  (447子コメント)

                            Maybe...but natives do that to foreign surfers all the time.

                            [–]Otiac 182ポイント183ポイント  (414子コメント)

                            I've never been, but I've heard that natives hate 'foreigners' quite a bit there?

                            [–]czhunc 201ポイント202ポイント  (162子コメント)

                            Some natives locals may feel a small amount of hostility for non islanders. Make sure to read the description.

                            Edit.

                            It's been pointed out that this incident took place in El Salvador, not Hawaii.

                            In my mind, it makes it even worse when Hawaiians travel to other countries just to push white people off their surfboards. What a world we live in.

                            [–]Darcsen 52ポイント53ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            That guy got a fuck ton of hate from the local community, and the local news channels put him the fuck down.

                            [–]ililiililillililii 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Holy shit, I've seen that guy. Ice is a hell of a drug.

                            [–]Sciensophocles 51ポイント52ポイント  (69子コメント)

                            Jesus H Christ. Had no idea it was that bad.

                            [–]yiajiipamu 37ポイント38ポイント  (41子コメント)

                            It generally isn't that bad, I have family in Hawaii and used to go there annually, I've only seen one encounter like this. I think that most Hawaiians don't go around acting like this, but a lot do harbor ill will towards foreigners so when something happens they'll dump it out on whoever pissed them off and use it as an excuse.

                            [–]Ether165 49ポイント50ポイント  (30子コメント)

                            We're not foreigners in our own country are we? "Same team, Farva man! Come on!"

                            [–]Chard121 43ポイント44ポイント  (15子コメント)

                            We are according to people who hold on to the fact that the US basically said, "this is ours now" and annexed Hawaii in 1898.

                            [–]TheCrispyDud 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            Hey after 100 years it became a de jure part of the American Empire, or something like that.

                            [–]Goliathus123 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            As has been the case for literally every civilization to ever exist.

                            Name any country, the founders didn't just set up shop in an open area while the locals peacefully walked away.

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                              [–]Theyreillusions 9ポイント10ポイント  (12子コメント)

                              It definitely wasn't always our country...

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                                [–]Sciensophocles 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                I'm sure it's not always like this. The pure, unfiltered vitriol just shocked me. So much hate.

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                                  [–]czhunc 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                  I mean, 1. I'm sure this kind of encounter is very rare and 2. holy fuck this guy clearly has his own issues going on. What's really amazing to me is that he seems to have a girlfriend who just kind of stayed in the background and waited for his tantrum to die down. People are strange.

                                  [–]Mjt8 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Eh, it's more common than you'd think. When I went to school in southern california the students from Hawaii were pretty notorious for drinking and starting fights for no reason m. They talked a lot like the guy in the video.

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                                    [–]The3asyLife 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    That's a pretty poor representation of the locals here...I'm a haole on the big island, and I've encountered nothing but friendly, helpful, and kind people here. Doesn't matter if you're black, white, brown, blue, purple, there's always a shitter that represents his/her culture in a negative manner....

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                                      [–]BadJuju8274 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      If you're visiting Hawaii, Maui's a good place to visit it's pretty tourist friendly, I especially like tourists. Just make sure you don't look too touristy, try to use this guy's outfit, not this and you'll fit right in. Source: Live in Maui, local Filipino, my uncle is Caucasian.

                                      [–]l64l 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      I already knew what video this was going to be before I clicked.

                                      For the record, i've been in that exact park with my very white tourist family, and no one fucked with us at all the entire week we were there.

                                      [–]kbuis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I'm thinking someone needs a little therapy. I'd recommend a therapy dog, but, well ...

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                                        [–]yertles 82ポイント83ポイント  (121子コメント)

                                        For the most part it isn't a big deal, but I wouldn't want to find myself somewhere rural around natives as a white person. Most people are fine but it isn't hard to find examples of race-based aggression/violence by natives against "foreigners".

                                        That said, it's an awesome place and everyone I met there was great, and I spend most of my time nowhere near the typical "tourist" places.

                                        [–]Mendrak 78ポイント79ポイント  (64子コメント)

                                        I'm white and live in Hawaii, it's very rural where I am and have never had any problems.

                                        [–]PlantfoodCuisinart 152ポイント153ポイント  (46子コメント)

                                        I'm white and grew up there and never had any problem either. All starts with not calling people "natives".

                                        [–]BarfReali 109ポイント110ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        Doesn't it depend on if you have a Mahalo Rewards Card?

                                        [–]Wakafanykai123 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        It helps. Beyond Paradise is a great movie if you want to understand more.

                                        [–]Equalizer079 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        I watched that movie for the first time in years the other week. It didn't click for me back in high school but now it almost hurt to see some of the things they showed. Iceheads, the weird homeless guy. Ronnie boy especially, I knew too many good kids like him growing up who just couldn't keep up with the times.

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                                          [–]Ifuckedthatup 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          ehh, Ive had friends who lived there and got a lot of shit for being haoles

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                                              [–]Sootraggins 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Some of the beaches are dangerous to visit since they're for 'locals only.'

                                              [–]Jumbo_Damn_Pride 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                              I lived there for a summer and I saw it a lot. I didn't surf and generally kept to myself, but they tried to fuck with my older brother a lot. He's a lot bigger than I am (6'1", 225lbs and a former D1 linebacker). Idk if they were trying to prove they were tougher than "Howlies" or what, but they were definitely not accepting.

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                                                [–]Live_Z_Or_Die 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Locals only

                                                [–]Snowy88 25ポイント26ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                Really? I was visiting a good friend in Hawaii and I went surfing for the first time on honoli'i in Hilo. I must have looked like such a scrub but when I was showering off in the out door showers this huge like 6'5 native dude covered in like tribal tattoos and stuff comes up to me and like asks if I had a good time and we had a nice little chat. He was a such a cool dude.

                                                [–]Katrar 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                There's definitely no shortage of genuinely nice native Hawaiians, unfortunately there's also no shortage of severely racist, angry native Hawaiians. The good generally outweighs the bad, though, at least from my experience (4 years on Oahu).

                                                [–]notthathungryhippo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                yea brah, but you know to stay out of waianae like the rest of us.

                                                [–]Keios80 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                There's definitely no shortage of genuinely nice native Hawaiians, unfortunately there's also no shortage of severely racist, angry native Hawaiians.

                                                So, pretty much like everywhere else then?

                                                [–]Noneleft7 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                You probably weren't getting in peoples way like the dude in the GIF. That and there are shitty people everywhere.

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                                                  [–]tiga4life22 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Ohana means fam--grlgrlgrlgrlf

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                                                    [–]vorpib 189ポイント190ポイント  (70子コメント)

                                                    And this is why surfing is so difficult to get into. Seriously, I went for some lessons and I was given more of a lecture on how to treat the locals because the waves essentially belong to them.

                                                    [–]HippopotamicLandMass 69ポイント70ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                    I feel that. As a beginner, I started at quiet beaches with crappy waves, or went to nice spots like this when at times nobody but my group was around. I had the freedom to screw up without causing anyone any trouble. It's why parents teach their kids to drive in giant empty parking lots. Alas, Hawaii, unlike many other places on the mainland, is full of visitors with free time to surf, and wildly different skill levels. I guess it's a little like learning to drive by starting on the streets of Manhattan.

                                                    [–]h2orat 41ポイント42ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                    So how would this be any different than learning to ski on a mountain? Understanding that there are places within a mountain where people who are more advanced can go, but there are still large areas where people of all levels have to traverse and get along. If someone of higher skill came down and purposefully knocked over a beginner for no reason, even his friends should kick his ass.

                                                    [–]Samopal_Vzor58 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    In skiing the right of way rule is pretty solid. Slow it down in the high traffic areas, don't cut someones line, if someone inexperienced cuts your line it's a "shit happens" kind of thing.

                                                    Maybe there's just more room. But as a more experienced skier, I'll get around you, not demand you get out of my way.

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                                                          [–]OneManGOONsquad 101ポイント102ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                          So, by "etiquette" you mean "what the native locals want to happen or they'll fight you"

                                                          [–]FlySneedle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Nope. Almost every surfer worldwide knows proper surfing etiquette and that includes not dropping in on someone when they're deeper than you on the wave. Don't talk about something you know nothing about.

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                                                            [–]mikejones72 150ポイント151ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                                            Um its the ocean...not a fkn backyard. I like my local mtb trails...alot. When I see someone on the trailwhere I typically rise...its not cool to be an ahole to them. This surfing mentality is childish.

                                                            [–]seancanada 41ポイント42ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                            As a mountain biker and snowboarder, it's tough to use the former as an example, the latter is better.

                                                            Snowboard halfpipe, there's a lineup to drop in, it's your turn, you drop in and hit your first and biggest air, only to approach the other wall to see that some other guy has dropped in on your run.

                                                            Tell me that isn't obviously asking for a gentle shove. People just don't do it if they've watched how it works for 5 minutes. Doesn't happen.

                                                            [–]renegade7879 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Yeah I feel like that is what people are missing here. Similar to a half-pipe, when surfing there is a very limited amount of space (and time) inside which you can surf. It's not like a mountain trail that has plenty of open areas where you can quickly pass others or just keep your distance.

                                                            [–]enragedmanatee 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            So wait, "dropping in on a grommet" is actually a decidedly un-swood thing to do?

                                                            I'll never look at California Games 2 the same way again.

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                                                                [–]Amosral 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                Don't fuck with Da Hui.

                                                                [–]bastion72 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Here's some good examples from a classic movie.

                                                                [–]moeburn 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                I learned almost all of this from a King of the Hill episode about surfing.

                                                                [–]quadraphonic 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                Surfers sound like dicks.

                                                                [–]That_Texas_Guy 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                Today's surfing forcast: We are only receiving 10 -11 waves today, next set of waves not coming until later this week.

                                                                [–]lonesurfer 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                Ah, man, I am not proud of that story. I don't know what came over me, but usually I'd never put my hands on someone else or trash them to their children. I definitely should have handled it better.

                                                                THAT SAID

                                                                If some dude dropped in on me like the first guy in the gif, I'll come up to you and say "you should look at the wave over your shoulders before you get on it, this and this person has priority, etc." This actually happened to me like 2 hours ago. I didn't get pissy, didn't splash water at them, didn't bodyslam them.

                                                                If you put your hands on me like the second guy, I'm coming up to you to break something.

                                                                [–]kula_shakur 68ポイント69ポイント  (64子コメント)

                                                                Fuck Hawaii in general. I lived and worked there - doing the daily, regular guy thing - for a long time. My grandparents on both sides have lived there since the early 1960's. My parents lived there until they were in their 30's and we still have extended family throughout the islands. We have history in Hawaii, is what I'm saying.

                                                                That being said: Hawaii is the single most backwards, racist, out-of-touch-with-reality place I have ever experienced. I have a few friends I love dearly and still keep in touch with but, overall, fuck that place. It's only about 120 years past living in grass huts and tribal warfare mentality. It's brutal, it's unsophisticated, it's culturally vapid. It hasn't progressed enough to be a real place for real people. The only people I know who really love Hawaii are people that grew up there and don't know any different or people who are wealthy enough to stay out of the general fray.

                                                                I left eight years ago and never looked back.

                                                                [–]SmartToaster 76ポイント77ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                It's almost like it's an isolated island chain in the middle of the fucking Pacific Ocean.

                                                                [–]watchnickdie 49ポイント50ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                On the other side of the coin, you have an entire culture being boxed up, packaged, and sold to the hundreds of thousands of tourists that come to the islands every year and treat it like the entire place is a theme park. Imagine having your beautiful island home and unique culture be invaded by foreigners who walk in like they own the place, tear up thousands of acres of land for their hotels, just to invite more ungrateful foreigners who treat your country like a Chuck-E-Cheese for a week or two before flying back home and complaining to all their friends that the locals didn't bow down and kiss their foreign feet for the opportunity to serve them their homeland on a sesame seed bun.

                                                                What's backwards is that their culture has been getting taken advantage of by billionaire tourism moguls shoving money into the right pockets since before anyone currently living on the island was born. I doubt you'd be very happy with foreigners, either.

                                                                [–]aloha_niigah 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                This was a response i was looking for in this thread. Another point of view. Thank you

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                                                                  [–]ModernLifeDating 30ポイント31ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  God I lived in Oahu for 1 year and felt the same way. I am so glad to see someone else share the same opinion. I have never met such a large group of uneducated people in my life. I left and I will never live there again but I will vacation. My final say is Hawaii is great for vacations but SHIT for living.

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                                                                      [–]BlueVape 435ポイント436ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                                      http://i.imgur.com/jd7mx1P.gifv

                                                                      [–]fleckes 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      Majestic

                                                                      [–]tapport 65ポイント66ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                      Easy karma right here. Whats the source?

                                                                      [–]GuerillaEmpire 42ポイント43ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                      Bum Fights?

                                                                      [–]awry_lynx 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      agreed with the other guy, really fucking lame. someone paid the homeless guy a bit of money to do it, basically just making fun of someone who probably has mental issues

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                                                                          [–]gredgex 60ポイント61ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                          Reminds me of the Rocket Power where they went to the secret beach and those elitist surfer assholes tried to fuck with the Shore Shack squad. They even got sand in the potato salad.

                                                                          [–]Bear_naked_grylls 79ポイント80ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                          Localism in surf culture is fucking brutal. Sure, it looks like he dropped in on that guy, but fuck that's a bit of an over reaction. There's a bunch of cases where localism has gone way too far.

                                                                          [–]shphunk 215ポイント216ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                          So many people advocating for the native who was dropped in on. You know how many times this has happened to me in California? Hundreds, how many time was I a dickhead? None, Because I am a civilized human who can calmly talk to the guy or ignore it because Im not a colossal douche canoe.

                                                                          [–]TheGold05 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                          I'm in the Los Angeles area and when I was trying to learn how to surf, the beaches were so crowded that if I wasn't allowed to drop in on anyone, I'd basically never get to ride, ever, because there was always someone coming in.

                                                                          [–]RCantHandleTheTruth 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          Sounds like it's just overcrowded. Even if it weren't so territorial you'd get like one wave a day. Why wouldn't you just want to find another spot?

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                                                                            [–]fundip2012 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            california is another world...it's like 3 people on a wave is normal

                                                                            [–]WOT_IF_UR_LEGS 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            Not really though.... We have etiquette. Its crowded, but people still respect eachother

                                                                            [–]cumjunky 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Depends on the beach. Touristy beaches will have a person for every 10 feet of wave.

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                                                                                [–]BarryMcCackiner 92ポイント93ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                Surfing locals are the worst for this type of stuff. I've actually had more negative encounters with surfers than I have had with golfers concerning etiquette. Shit happens out in the water, but the surfers can really be indignant about it.

                                                                                [–]nickmarx12345678 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Yeah I've recently started getting in to it and I just wish amid the yelling when I fuck something up they would at least give a pointer or two on ya know...how to not fuck it up anymore. I don't want to piss them off anymore than they want me pissing them off, like shit man help me not fuck you

                                                                                [–]GOBLIN_GHOST 45ポイント46ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                It's even worse when you get a former surf local who moves inland and thinks the same kind of bullshit is tolerated at skateparks. I once had a pookah-shelled dickbag try to tell me that I had to bring a 6-pack if I wanted to skate in the guerilla cement park behind my house.

                                                                                [–]Gaelicthunder 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Hmmm, I understood dick bag and 6-pack. I'd call that a good start

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                                                                                    [–]ohyouresilly 55ポイント56ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                    That's pretty impressive to be able to surf and shove someone then just keep on surfing.

                                                                                    [–]TheMaltese 40ポイント41ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                                                                    I thought surfers were supposed to be the epitome of chill

                                                                                    [–]not_a_doornob_either 72ポイント73ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                                    Here in SoCal, they are mostly right wing frat bros.

                                                                                    [–]TheMaltese 27ポイント28ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                    Soooo the whole surfing dream is dead?

                                                                                    [–]not_a_doornob_either 29ポイント30ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                    Surfing is still fun, if you can get in the water with only a few people around. Happens less and less. The dream isn't dead, really. Just the idea of happy surf bums is pretty much non existent for the most part around here.

                                                                                    [–]turbodude69 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                    why? this is really interesting to me. has the surf culture completely changed in the last 20yrs? i thought surfers were mostly just potheads that didnt give a shit about anything but smoking weed. kinda like most of the snowboarders i've met.

                                                                                    [–]not_a_doornob_either 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                    Honestly, it might just be decades of bitterness building up for me. The crowds just seem so much worse. Then again, the water seems colder, and the dawn patrols are forced. Where I live is a pretty affluent area with a few dirtbag areas (where I can afford to rent) so I might just be jaded.

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                                                                                      [–]sativan 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                      The dream is alive

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                                                                                          [–]here4DaBacon 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                          So Point Break is a real thing?

                                                                                          [–]DUBBZZ 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                          Da Hui

                                                                                          [–]stoopid_dummy 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          Dick move.

                                                                                          [–]terattt 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                          Sure got a lotta tude for a guy in rainbow shorts.

                                                                                          [–]Long_Drive 111ポイント112ポイント  (39子コメント)

                                                                                          He cut him off.

                                                                                          [–]drewxhawaii 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                          No, he dropped in on him.

                                                                                          [–]spewintothiss 34ポイント35ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                                                          In surf lingo, this is known as getting burnt, or snaking.

                                                                                          [–]-UncleArgyle- 263ポイント264ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                                                          Actually, this is snaking.

                                                                                          [–]spewintothiss 50ポイント51ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                          Good lord please give me the source on this

                                                                                          [–]-UncleArgyle- 70ポイント71ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                          Escape from L.A.

                                                                                          [–]tinyheavyistiny 25ポイント26ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                          It's an amazing movie and Snake Pliskin is featured in the game Broforce! I'd highly suggest checking it out if you like old action movies.

                                                                                          [–]Bear_Masta 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                          Not to mention a huge amount of Metal Gear was influenced by these films!

                                                                                          [–]HiCaptainPlanet 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                          Whoa. The main character from most Metal Gear Solid games is called Snake. And on Metal Gear Solid 2 he gives out a fake codename "Pliskin".

                                                                                          [–]b4gelbites_ 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          Were you not aware of this? Solid is based off of Snake Pliskin. Always has been.

                                                                                          [–]DikFistinHotPockets 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          Yeah. The Metal Gear franchise is basically a rip off of the Escape From New York/Escape From L.A. movies.

                                                                                          I'll sum up the plot of Escape From New York, and tell me if this doesn't sound like the plot of a Metal Gear game...

                                                                                          In the near future crime has gotten out of control, so the U.S. government evacuates the island of Manhattan and turns it into a gigantic maximum security prison where the inmates run wild all over the city.

                                                                                          On it's way to a peace summit between the U.S., China, and the USSR, Air Force One is hijacked by terrorists with the President aboard. The President, unbeknownst to almost everyone, has a briefcase with him containing an audio tape describing a new super weapon, whose information could be disastrous if it falls into the wrong hands.

                                                                                          The President is able to escape from Air Force One in an escape pod which crash lands into the middle of Manhattan, along with the info about the new secret weapon. The deranged leader of the criminals inside Manhattan, known only as "The Duke of New York," reveals that he has captured the President and is giving the government 24 hours to meet his demands of releasing all of the prisoners in exchange for the President and his briefcase.

                                                                                          The government then calls upon Snake Plissken, an Ex-U.S. Special Forces veteran and an old war hero, who is to go on a one man sneaking mission into the dangerous island of Manhattan, rescue the President, and return with the info on the super weapon. Snake has also been injected with a deadly nano-explosives, which will detonate, killing Snake, if he doesn't return with the President within 22 hours. The reason for this is that Snake was serving life in prison for attempting to rob the U.S. Federal Reserve, and completing this mission will grant him a full pardon.

                                                                                          Along the way Snake has to battle a number of weirdos and eccentric villains and eventually double crosses the government by stealing the tape with the info about the new weapon and destroying it.

                                                                                          Snake also, you know, looks like this.

                                                                                          And talks with a gruff ass voice like this.

                                                                                          He also fights with CQC, like this.

                                                                                          And as the coup de grace, really enjoys his cigarettes and cigars...

                                                                                          [–]tinyheavyistiny 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          I always wondered why the look so similar.

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                                                                                                    [–]guitarmanzee 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                    He "dropped in" on the local looking dude.

                                                                                                    Whoever is closest to the peak of the wave (where it's breaking) has the right of way in the lineup.

                                                                                                    Snaking is seeing a wave, paddling past someone who would have right of way, and putting yourself closer to the peak of the wave than the other surfer. Technically you have the right of way on the wave, but technically you just snaked someone and you're an asshole.

                                                                                                    [–]wwwwwwx 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                    snaking where i'm from means paddling quickly to the inside when you see the guy go for a wave, so that you are closer to the peak and thus have priority. For sure still a dick move to do that.

                                                                                                    this is a classic drop-in.

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                                                                                                        [–]terattt 74ポイント75ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                        Boy, this sure makes me want to pick up surfing. /s

                                                                                                        rolls eyes

                                                                                                        [–]FlashMFGordon 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                        everyone is disappointed

                                                                                                        [–]SicilianEggplant 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        Except the Hawaiians defending their waves.

                                                                                                        I'm sure there's proper etiquette and all that, but just because someone is an idiot it doesn't allow others to be assholes (unless perhaps that kid was repeatedly and intentionally being an idiot).

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                                                                                                            [–]Maui_Boy 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                            I grew up surfing in Hawai'i. Hawai'i might have invented localism but I can tell you now that it has subsided a lot. I mean WAY less violence now then when I was growing up. I surf all over now and I can tell you Australia and California definitely have climbed their way to the top of localism. Lunada Bay in California is a perfect example. Even the golden gate bridge in San Francisco is a locals only spot.

                                                                                                            [–]ihavea_purplenurple 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            This would be such an entertaining contact sport

                                                                                                            [–]chaseeb91 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            I've never surfed but but I skateboard and if you drop in at the wrong time because you're not paying attention bad things happen. Not because they're mad but because someone else is doing the same thing from another corner and next thing you know some little kids dad is pissed.

                                                                                                            [–]dylanstrouble 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                            I'm white and live in Hawaii, I've been told it's not cool to surf in certain spots alone. There are definitely spots that are local only. I haven't necessarily been a victim of racism but the term Haole has been thrown around quite a bit. If taken in and out of context it can be a very offensive term and also one of Aloha.

                                                                                                            [–]maschine01 73ポイント74ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                                            Hate crime. White surfers matter.

                                                                                                            [–]robinbl2 52ポイント53ポイント  (36子コメント)

                                                                                                            I've heard about Hawaiian locals like this

                                                                                                            [–]gepgepgep 48ポイント49ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                                                            This is everywhere. Even in stuck up places like Newport/Huntington, California.

                                                                                                            Even had a time where locals would get into fight with the Pros when they were out practicing.

                                                                                                            [–]Rugger420 24ポイント25ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                                            Yeah every beach town has its group of "locals" who will start trouble with outsiders

                                                                                                            [–]RarelyReadReplies 34ポイント35ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                                            Wow, surfing culture seems horrible. It's good to know that the TV shows got it right though I guess.

                                                                                                            [–]ArrenPawk 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            Surfing culture is just like any other culture in that there's a vocal asshole minority that makes the whole hobby look bad. I've had my share of douche encounters on the waves, but for every shitty interaction, I've had five really awesome sessions where everyone in the water practices aloha and cheers you on for nabbing the set of the day.

                                                                                                            [–]ataraxy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            welcome to the O.C. bitch

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                                                                                                                  [–]dj_tommyg 27ポイント28ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Not just Hawaiian. Lots of Australian locals are like this too. But as mentioned above, there is an etiquette to follow.

                                                                                                                  [–]rrepulsar 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Surfers for some reason have this reputation as being laid back, in tune with nature, chill people. Couldn't be further from the truth. I grew up in La Jolla and every other surfer is a complete fucking asshole.

                                                                                                                  [–]jayperr 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  These comments have made change my mind about the surfer image. No more "chill and laid-back surfer dude" for me, now it's more "aggresive and territorial asshole dude" instead.

                                                                                                                  [–]bnuiransder 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  It pisses me off that there are a lot of stupid people in Hawaii who are just so damned racist. It makes the rest of us Hawaiians look like idiots.

                                                                                                                  Sadly, a lot of the times that I see a guy being a jackass to someone... hes like.... huge so I just walk away...

                                                                                                                  [–]Unavillafied 84ポイント85ポイント  (88子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Surfers are on par with bikers when it comes to being assholes.

                                                                                                                  [–]up9rade 115ポイント116ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                                  relevant with much satisfaction

                                                                                                                  [–]wolfraisedbysheep 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Did he seriously brake-check a bus while riding a bike??

                                                                                                                  [–]ThaFuck 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  You got to wonder about the sanity of a person who intentionally break checks a fucking bus with a bicycle.

                                                                                                                  [–]Angry_Robot 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Yes his bike deserved to get crushed, and I hope they burn in hell!

                                                                                                                  [–]Fresherty 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Yup, but on the other hand - at least in Poland - the guy in a bus would probably lose his driving licence just from what I see in the gif. It doesn't really matter how much of an asshole biker was.

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                                                                                                                        [–]boxer_rebel 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                        dang...beware the locals

                                                                                                                        [–]a_fonzerelli 65ポイント66ポイント  (75子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I love how hostile native Hawaiians are to tourists despite the fact that their ENTIRE economy is reliant on them. I've had drunk locals threaten to beat me up on more than one occasion for no reason other than not being a native.

                                                                                                                        [–]odnalyd 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        The racism here is bad. It's mind boggling.

                                                                                                                        [–]TheSecretMe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        You clearly don't live in a tourist town. They might support the economy but most of the time that means they act like the scum of the earth.

                                                                                                                        Living in a touristy place is like having your entire city turned into a bad neighbourhood.

                                                                                                                        [–]malaihi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I love how hostile native Hawaiians are to tourists despite the fact that their ENTIRE economy is reliant on them.

                                                                                                                        You need to understand the native Hawaiians were self sustaining people. They had absolutely no problem sustaining their culture until foreigners came and FORCED them to become dependent on the American way of life. My ancestors suffered through that period and it is still very recent.

                                                                                                                        The native language and ways were banned, people hanged for speaking their native tongue and just being Hawaiian. In transition to American culture, the natives were broke and had to pretty much relearn a whole new way of life.

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                                                                                                                          [–]packniam 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                          I get that there's a rules system in place, but at the same time native Hawaiians need to relearn what the "aloha spirit" means. I've been stationed here in Hawaii for almost a year and have had more run-ins with arrogant locals from just being on their turf than I care to count. And by their turf I mean following the normal rules of merging on the H1 freeway. and by being a white guy.

                                                                                                                          [–]goodtago 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                          The white surfer took off in front of the Hawaiian surfer which is universally considered to be uncool in surfing. However, the point of this video is that Hawaiians beat down mainland surfers and this is absolutely true. If you surf with an Hawaiian friend and everyone knows that, you are welcomed and treated like a local. If NOT, then depending on the area (Waikiki, for example) they will kick out in your face, push you off waves, gang up on you in the water, or run you down with their boards as you paddle out and try to kill you or at least send you to the hospital. Personally, I would never consider surfing there without a local ticket, so to speak, to the surf beach in question.

                                                                                                                          [–]hombrenlasombras 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                          What a douchebag

                                                                                                                          [–]kaiseresc 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                          the lannisters send their alohas.

                                                                                                                          [–]space_drone 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                          Based on reddit, the surfing community is overrun by immature bullies who were ignored by their parents. The more "the locals" get upset, the more I want to fuck up "the line."

                                                                                                                          and that fucking vernacular...

                                                                                                                          [–]_fuckallofyou_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                          Been surfing for 10 years. There's always some asshole out there who thinks he owns 100 yards in either direction.

                                                                                                                          [–]avatars_are_faggy 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                          Surfers seem to be a bunch of self important douchebags. Fuck surfing anyway. Might as well live in Compton.

                                                                                                                          [–]myxomatoast 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                          Well I'm a surfer and a bunch of my friends are surfers, and I know nearly all of them as kind, genuine people. I've surfed for years and never seen physical violence, but I have seen a lot of respect for the ocean, safety, and other surfers. So I'm not offended, but I definitely feel like there's a perspective that you're missing here.

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