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Video[Video] Autistic high school basketball manager nails 6 three-pointers in the final 4 minutes of his only game, ever. (youtu.be)

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[–]FugginIpad 151ポイント152ポイント  (2子コメント)

Felt some real, honest to god frisson from that. Misty eyes and all. I work with autistic kids and their families - this moment is just majestic.

[–]Dinewiz 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The moment the coach points to him and the crowd goes crazy in support of him is so moving. And everytime he shoots*, they go crazy. Every time he scores, crazier still then go bat shit insane when the whistle blows. It's beautiful, it really is.

[–]GeminiLife 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

:)

[–]UsagiMimi 93ポイント94ポイント  (23子コメント)

This may sound depressing but it's not meant to. I'm on the autism spectrum as well. I've never really had friends around me, or anyone to push me forward. There was a lot of abuse growing up (I'm 28 now, been alone for 10 years). I am very happy he got to experience that and one day I hope I can experience something like it as well.

[–]Zelmont 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn bro. Hope ur doing good now

[–]MedicinalHammer 12ポイント13ポイント  (18子コメント)

Sports are a fantastic way to build friendships and camaraderie like we saw in that video. Perhaps there are some local recreational leagues you can join?

[–]UsagiMimi 21ポイント22ポイント  (17子コメント)

Yeah, not going to do that. Too much social anxiety. If there's a place and more than two or three people at said place, I will not go to said place. Super sensitive to sound and smell, and if I can't keep track of what's happening visually well... I start to literally panic. It's like getting claustrophobic.

Everything I do well... I do well in private, heh.

[–]Danog123 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about golf? Not too many people around there!

[–]WE_ID 2ポイント3ポイント  (14子コメント)

e-sports? :)

No, I'm just joking. Most communities are terrible.

[–]brancowlord 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

Seriously, gaming has some of the most toxic communities I've ever seen.

[–]WE_ID 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

They really do. Something to do with competitive environments and the Online Disinhibition Effect I imagine.

[–]brancowlord 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Most likely. I've recently been playing a lot of Black Ops 2 with my friend, and we stay in gamechat just to keep it interesting. I've been trying something lately where I just act positively towards everybody, and it's surprising the amount of people who start off being complete assholes who become really chill to play with the moment you show some kindness and general friendliness. It makes me wonder how many people in gaming communities are toxic just because they're so used to it that it becomes normal to them. :(

[–]WE_ID 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, it's hit or miss with kindness for me though maybe my game of choice (dota) is part of the reason why it's hit or miss.

[–]brancowlord 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Could be. I remember kindness could be veeerrrryyyy difficult in serious teamwork-oriented games. Left 4 Dead comes to mind as a game rife with seemingly justifiable frustration at strangers because of something so petty as their skill level. At the end of the day it's only a game, but it could get infuriating.

[–]WE_ID 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah there's "kindness" and "rightness" and often the two are at opposite ends of the spectrum. "Stop feeding faggot" is very unkind but could also be very true given the context of the situation (the stop feeding part not the pejorative). However, "no it's ok don't worry about it" is really nice but might not get shit done.

[–]Miyelsh 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hell of a generalization there.

[–]brancowlord 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Give me an example of an online game that doesn't have a shitty community.

[–]Miyelsh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Project Reality, Counter Strike, Starcraft, Killinng Floor, Runescape, Arms, etc all have great communities imo

[–]UsagiMimi 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of sorts, yes. I am very particular though of my surroundings for obvious reasons. At one point I could play UT/UT2k3/2k4 at tournament levels. Same goes for battlefield. Star craft and Warcraft 3 as well. However I am incredibly anal. In WC3 for instance, I'd make an online account and play random ranked matches until I lost. Then I would delete the account. The most I ever had was 83 wins without a loss.

Now I dabble more in MMO content, pushing things like savage content in FFXIV.

[–]WE_ID 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm pretty anal like that too; when I was playing X-Com I would restart every time a character would die. It was AWFUL trying to finish that game.

[–]UsagiMimi 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Plus... there's a lot of extra things as well making me not want attention from any sort of e-sports community. Transgender, male to female, legally female now. Autistic, etc. Quite the list. So lately I just stick to doing things with my LGBT clan in FFXIV.

[–]WE_ID 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus yeah, stick with more tolerant groups for sure. Many e-communities are shitty to people they are more or less similar to. Let's not mention how they treat people with vastly different life experiences.

[–]vonFitz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Check out Moe Norman- pro golfer with autism.

[–]stomachless_hunger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of us never experience something like this, so take heart. There is a reason people talk about moments like this forever- they are rare and wondrous things. I've never been carried on anyone's shoulders or cheered by hundreds or watched in action by strangers who grew misty-eyed because of my performance. Doesn't matter who you are or where you come from or what you've been through- you're lucky to have a moment like this to hold on to.

[–]Laz3rfac3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not alone

[–]ironykarl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good luck. I definitely hope it works out for you :)

[–]MPS186282 58ポイント59ポイント  (1子コメント)

I caught it at "Never this different. Never this wonderful."

[–]GazerOfStars 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here. It was a nice video, but right as the narrator said that, wham- Frisson time.

[–]smashbro713 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

Comedy sketch inspired by this. http://www.thebirthdayboys.com/gallery/autistic-basketball-player/

[–]PossumMan93 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I WAS WONDERING THIS hahahah why don't they just play him more haha

[–]thegoodendedhappily 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Choked me up a little bit. Great story. Great kids in the crowd cheering for him as soon as he came off the bench.

[–]ladybow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's when the tears started streamin for me, then and seeing the crowd get progressively more excited for him throughout the game

[–]fascist_unicorn 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

My youngest brother is autistic, and looks like he'll end up tall, maybe in 10 years, this can be him :) Great crowd, being so nice and supportive of this kid.

[–]Mintilina 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

How come he wasn't on the team as a player in the first place? That's fucking amazing!

[–]Jedimastert 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably because he was a hella good manager. I bet he hyped up the players like no one else could

[–]TheDemonClown 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because they never realized he had any skill. A lot of athletic programs wouldn't even have allowed him on as a manager, much less let him suit up for a game, because of his special needs status.

[–]MedicinalHammer 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I truly doubt that. I coach high school sports and we've had autistic kids on our team. These kids have been some of the most skilled and hardest working players I have ever seen, but each one has struggled with the same two things: strategy, and defense. He was most likely a liability in a game situation, but obviously has some skill and was thankfully able to show it off on that awesome day :)

[–]sombresaturn 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

High school basketball manager with autism

People-first language :)

[–]chrispyb 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

So, a coworker went to school with this kid, and apparently he (the kid in the video) just turned into a giant asshat after this, walking around like he was total hot shit all the time

[–]DrWhiskeydick 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my high school we had kids on the baketball team who didn't do very good at all but still were giant asshats and walked around like they were hot shit, and they didn't have autism.

[–]MedicinalHammer 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's the thing with autistic kids, some times they don't always act as you think they should. Let him enjoy it. I had a kid with Asperger's on my swim team, seriously not a good swimmer, but he called himself the "god of backstroke". It used to frustrate the hell out of me, but he simply really and truly thinks that. Eventually I started playing along and it was so much easier for me to manage him as his coach.

[–]lnt_[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'm going to start calling myself "god of backstroke"

[–]Saxi 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome video but makes me sad all the time he missed while helping for years but never getting to play.

[–]HiImDavid 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

How could someone watch this and not be smiling ear to ear.

[–]jchazu 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Too busy crying

[–]mirrorwolf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hard to smile when you are a blubbering mess

[–]WickedCitizen 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Makes you wonder what he could have done if allowed to play like any other player.

[–]MedicinalHammer 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are reasons he isn't playing. They don't just sit him because he is autistic, he sits because he most likely struggles with strategy and defense. He was probably given a fair shot like any other kid but wasn't able to keep up in some ways. No doubt the kid can shoot the ball though

[–]Damn_Croissant 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right. Just because you are good at H-O-R-S-E, doesn't mean you are good at (HS) competitive basketball.

[–]nosoupforyou2116 2ポイント3ポイント  (25子コメント)

I live in Rochester and this kid got the name "J Mac." He actually took on an inflated sense of self importance after this event. He's a jerk.

[–]Rain12913 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

......

Do you not know what autism is? People with autism tend to have severely impaired social skills and to have a hard time understanding the little social etiquette rules that come innately to the rest of us. This kid didn't have an "inflated sense of self-importance" and he isn't a jerk.

[–]davorzdralo 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

You do understand that "jerk" describes behaviour, and that the cause of the behaviour is completely irrelevant? Everyone has a Freudian Excuse.

[–]Rain12913 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

Try to think about this for a second. You're saying that a mentally handicapped person who doesn't understand social norms can be a jerk. Oxford Dictionary defines "jerk" as "a contemptibly obnoxious person." "Contemptibly" is the keyword there, as someone who is rude or obnoxious as a result of a mental deficiency is not a jerk.

[–]davorzdralo 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I fail to see how your interpretation changes anything. "Someone who is behaving in a manner worthy of contempt". So?

[–]Rain12913 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Contemptibly" is defined as "deserving contempt." The word is included in the definition for this very reason that we're talking about here. Not everyone who is obnoxious or rude is a jerk; only those who are also deserving of contempt are. What this means is that in order to be a jerk, someone's obnoxiousness/rudeness has to have been the result of a bad attitude, a lack of concern for others, willful ignorance, or some other contemptible circumstances. If, however, their obnoxiousness/rudeness has been due to something like autism, then they are not deserving of contempt (as people who lack sufficient awareness of social norms and possess a deficient theory of mind, they can't be blamed for their social faux pas).

Other examples of this distinction: animals cannot truly be jerks. You often see cats jokingly being called jerks on Reddit, but we know that cats can't actually be jerks because they lack agency and consciousness in their behavior. They certainly can behave in ways that we interpret as obnoxious and rude, but it would be silly to hold contempt towards an animal that doesn't even possess a theory of mind.

[–]davorzdralo 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sigh. Everyone acts as jerks for the exactly same reason: that's how their brain is wired. If autistic people get off the hook, why not other people? They can't choose to have a different personality any more than autistics.

[–]Rain12913 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've edited my last comment since you replied to it, so you may want to check it out for clarifications.

Now you're beginning to enter the domain of a free will vs. determinism argument. Of course, the argument can be made that nobody is responsible for anything they do because they're also not responsible for the physical reality within their brain (which is itself the engine of their behavior). That's not what I'm suggesting here. What I'm suggesting is that, unlike people whom we would normally consider to be jerks, people with severe autism and similar developmental disorders behave the way they do because of deficiencies in their theory of mind.

If, for example, a person with autism sees somebody crying and pushes them out of the way in order to get to something they want, that isn't because they're hateful and uncaring; it's because they're unable to understand that the other person is a conscious entity who is capable of feeling emotional pain. They're unable to perform the (quite complex) cognitive task of placing themselves in the shoes of another person in order to try and understand what wants and needs that person may have (and what sorts of things might cause them emotional pain). Hell, many people with autism can't even imagine what emotional pain is like, because their own emotional experience is either nonexistent or severely blunted.

Does that make more sense?

[–]davorzdralo -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I understand what you're saying, I just disagree with your conclusions.

[–]Rain12913 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Which part of my most recent comment do you disagree with?

[–]GraspinglySilver 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He was my AAU basketball "assistant coach" a few years ago, he's still a facebook friend. HUGE sense of self importance

[–]MedicinalHammer 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He has that because he is autistic, he literally doesn't have the hardware to tell him to try to be humble. Every single autistic kid that I have ever coached has had a high level of self importance. They aren't mean or jerks, they just literally can't hold a humble perspective.

[–]MedicinalHammer 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Autistic people already have an inflated sense of self importance, so of course it inflated after this. All of the autistic kids I have coached have all been like that, but they were absolutely not jerks. They weren't mean or anything like that, they just think absurdly highly of themselves sometimes. If you think he's a jerk for being autistic, then you're kinda being a jerk.

[–]nosoupforyou2116 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you go into restaurants and demand free food just because your name is "J-mac" and people should know who you are, you're a jerk. I don't care if you're autistic.

[–]davorzdralo -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, that's not how it works. By that logic, we're jerks if we say sociopaths lack empathy.

[–]MedicinalHammer 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I mean, I wouldn't call a sociopath a jerk either. That person is mentally ill.

[–]davorzdralo -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

OK, that's hilarious. Would you also not call crippled people slow, because they have a physical disability? Like, we should pretend they are sprinters on par with Bolt? Where do you draw the line at denying reality?

[–]MedicinalHammer 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

No need to be a dick, dude. I just try to be conscious of the words I choose and see the whole picture. An autistic kid who has an inflated ego isn't a jerk in my opinion, and quite frankly, I think it's a pretty rude thing to say. Yeah, the ego inflation can result in some cocky behavior, but considering the fact that they don't have the hardware to change that, I'm not going to label this person as a jerk. Just like I wouldn't label a sociopath a jerk. I can see why some people would, but I wouldn't. I dunno man, I feel bad for them that they don't have the ability to have the full human experience. Just because you're kinda right doesn't mean you aren't being an asshole. Might as well call an infant an idiot because it can't talk. I would never do that, but I can see why some people would. That's how I choose to see the world. Feel free to disagree.

[–]Gravee -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're not in a thread about something cool that you did and he's not here badmouthing you, so I guess I just don't see it.

[–]benttwig33 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

In a happy sub of all places!

[–]fruxzak 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of the stuff on this sub doesn't do it for me, but this was pretty spot on!

Thanks!

[–]dmorg18 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Best post on this sub in a while. Thanks for sharing.

[–]legobreath 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is beautiful. I'm a sobbing, frissoning mess.

[–]vandoh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thats some serious frission! Hair on my arms, legs, and head standing on end, nipples hard, eyes watering, and a huge smile.

[–]advanceman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you OP.

[–]benttwig33 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got put In , immediately destroys other team. Praised as a fucking champ, literally everyone loves him. What a fucking badass! Must have been amazing to be in that gym, let one be him!

[–]Pasalacquanian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, goosebumps all over. Amazing post.

[–]PepperJackson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've got to be careful with this AAA bona fide frisson inducing stuff man! That was incredibly heartwarming, the type of story you always hope is happening when all you hear about is the latest shooting. Thank you for showing this to me.

[–]SirCharlstonWeathers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the little things in life. This game probably meant the world to him and to an extent his teammates, coach and family. Tugs on the heartstrings.

[–]TheHawthorne 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

EPIC

[–]Bseagully 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd hate to be the kid told to guard him, because you block one shit and you'd be like public enemy #1.

[–]Chumpenstein 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wonder if the Boondocks 'Ballin'' episode ending is based off this.

[–]1fastman1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad for him man

[–]d-bone01 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aw Rochester is really close to where I graduated high school too!

[–]Sex-Haver 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

While this did make me feel all tingly I wonder what the crowd's reaction would've been if one of the players on the other team would've swatted one of his shots into the stands. It's sort of a tough spot to put the other team in, making them decide if they want to play 100% against the mentally handicapped kid. Maybe they were already down by 20 or something.

[–]AidenR90 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS is why i subscribed. Thanks OP. Stellar post.

[–]savesthedaystakn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was the best god damned local news story of all time.

[–]eatcrayons 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

This video makes me cry every fucking time. This video, and the one where the lady finds her cats after that tornado as she's being interviewed on the news.

[–]stomachless_hunger 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Link?

[–]croquetica 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably this one.

Maybe it's cause I'm a dog person, but this one is much more emotional to me.

[–]Black_Apalachi -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

So... Is the autism related to him being a basketball ace?

[–]DannyXopher 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure! Autistic people have trouble coping with the world - it's overwhelming. On one end of the spectrum it's not understanding social cues, but on the other end, it's everyday life overstimulating you. Routine becomes the ultimate comfort, and it might be more pleasurable to do the same thing 1,000 times before trying something new.

So this kid loves basketball. He does this three point shot every day, because it's comforting. And good for him, because basketball is all about repetition. He might not have a fade-away jumper or even be able to dribble with his left hand, but hell if he can't make the shot he practices.

So yeah, I would guess that his autism helped him perfect his three pointer - because he liked to practice. If he was focused in on the game enough, his autism might have even helped him ignore the the crowd and pressure of being on stage. He seems like he;s on the more mild side of the autism spectrum as well.

[–]rabidbasher -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing. Got nothing from this.