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[–]teleekom [スコア非表示]  (82子コメント)

You are really pushing it with the big bad subreddit vs. 10 year old girl who can't defend herself. Nobody in that thread could have know how old or what gender the kid is. I honestly just heard obnoxious laughter and made a comment about the laugh without really thinking "hmm I wonder how old is that person, can I comment on this or not?".

I've been to that thread, it's not like the upvoted comments were particularly vile or vulgar. It was just something that really stood up in that video. I think you are really making a big deal out of nothing. It could have ended then and there in that one thread but instead there are numerous posts, tweets and now blogs about such a stupid little thing.

And what is the end goal here anyway? Is this supposed to acomplish something? Should people apologize for making a comment about the laughter? Because honestly, I think you just pissing people off in this subreddit by making them look like some kind of evil child haters or something, which I don't think was the point at all.

[–]Sotriuj [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

My main gripe with that is that he stood for what he did because the behavior needed to stop, as the kid or parents could've saw it and be hurt about it.

So what did he do to prevent a subreddit where 55k+ people are suscribed, and one of this members could be kid or the kid's parent. ? Well he obviously decided to comment it on a twitter account where more than 450k+ people could read it!. Yeah, that's how you do it... how the hell can you defend that? Can't you contact a moderator and ask him to keep that on check?

Are you seriously saying that you maybe made things worse? Because you most definitely did. Had you shut up, we won't be discussing this thing anymore, because it was so amusingly irrelevant that no one will even remember by the day after. Yet thanks to you here we are, discussing it two days after.

And regarding the comment where you say that comments about the kid were removed after you pointed out, here is what a mod had to say

About a solution, here is one: hire a third, completely neutral person you don't have any involvment with who goes through all the comments and curates the feedback for you while you stay away from every single fan interaction that it's not physical. The problem is not with the format the content is discussed, the problem is you can't handle people being negative and get stressed out about that.

[–]nathan0905 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, is it really the best idea to make 3 comments on this thing. He keeps stopping it from dying out. He should've just gone directly to us then his soapbox on twitter. If he didn't want to comment he could've relayed it to a moderator. What he's done here has basically exacerbated a non issue into an issue. Mountains out of mole hills.

[–]LeKa34 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well he obviously decided to comment it on a twitter account where more than 450k+ people could read it

TB did comment on this exact thing in the soundcloud, that was one of his main points. He wanted people to know that he doesn't agree with the subreddit on the matter, even if not saying anything would have been easier.

[–]Wefee11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

TB did comment on this exact thing in the soundcloud, that was one of his main points. He wanted people to know that he doesn't agree with the subreddit on the matter, even if not saying anything would have been easier.

Yeah I sometimes think people willingly miss the points TB tries to make. TB is a Dad and another parent told him his child read nasty comments on the subreddit. TB agreed with the badness of the comments and wanted to be clear that people know his opinion about it. This is not an easy thing, and not everyone might agree with him, but that's how it is.

Some people here are really bad in seeing other points of views.

[–]Wefee11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It sounds to me it wasn't initialized by him, but by the parents/ the kid who did read the stuff. Ignoring an issue that is important in his opinion doesn't really make sense. He wanted to be clear that the kid and the parents are welcome in his fanbase, because the subreddit didn't make them feel this way. A person with power and responsibility sometimes simply can't ignore something, even when hundreds of people think it's overblown.

Maybe I look like a mindless TB-Defender, but I feel like people don't really get the point he tried to make. And I think the points are valid and easy to see. But you might disagree.

[–]shiny_dunsparce [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

as the kid or parents could've saw it and be hurt about it

didn't the mom tweet basically that they didn't give a shit about what people thought of them?

edit: yup

[–]Zankman [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

No normal person attacked the kid.

Those that did were trolls or legitimately vile people and their (few) comments were removed or deleted.

People simply talked about how annoying the laugh was or how it hurt the podcast episode.

So, you're in the right.

Disclaimer: I didn't care about the laugh.

[–]Nivius [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

yes i was annoyed by the laugh.

is that anyone's fault? no. parents could asked her to keep it down. that's common amongst people that have a very booming voice in anyway, and that's a price to have that. but nothing more. i knew of a friend that have a voice that could with enough force be heard amongst 500 people.

if this was just ignored, no comments about it, it would already been forgotten. but now the people here, including me feel blamed for something that is really is nothing. you even point it out yourself tb with what entitlement we use to criticize it. well it was on a podcast, that's it! nothing more, nothing less. it really was nothing! but it is made to a big thing now with all the twitter, and soundclouding and all that...

it was nothing, now its something! and unfortunately it is TB and Genna that made it so. (how many threads have been made about this now compared if you guys just would not comment :/)

[–]Zankman [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

is that anyone's fault? no. parents could asked her to keep it down. that's common amongst people that have a very booming voice in anyway, and that's a price to have that. but nothing more. i knew of a friend that have a voice that could with enough force be heard amongst 500 people.

Yes and I hope that no one is blaming TB for the audio quality or the laugh itself - shit happens. TB said that he will try to prevent audio issues in the future.

if this was just ignored, no comments about it, it would already been forgotten. but now the people here, including me feel blamed for something that is really is nothing. you even point it out yourself tb with what entitlement we use to criticize it. well it was on a podcast, that's it! nothing more, nothing less. it really was nothing! but it is made to a big thing now with all the twitter, and soundclouding and all that...

Thing is, from my POV, is that people posting about it on the subreddit/in the thread is NOT a problem.

It is NOT ideal/great/optimal, since it is kinda harsh and off-topic.

But it is NOT horrible or bullying or whatever, nor is it something outstanding - reactions like that happen all the time, especially IRL.

So, simply TB shouldn't have made it into a big deal about supposed child bullying!

it was nothing, now its something! and unfortunately it is TB and Genna that made it so. (how many threads have been made about this now compared if you guys just would not comment :/)

It is unfortunate, but I still don't think that we are to blame for saying "that laugh is annoying" or because one idiot said "I hope that kid burns in hell".

[–]Nivius [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It is unfortunate, but I still don't think that we are to blame for saying "that laugh is annoying" or because one idiot said "I hope that kid burns in hell".

agree. it was a general criticism about the podcast audio system. and me and prob many other people didn't even know it was a kid, just because a few people took it to far. ban those guys instead!

[–]Deyerli [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

You saw comments that were just outright dickish and were not removed. "Fuck that kid" comes to mind. Some were borderline vile and not removed, most were dickish and mean, but they were plenty, which makes their force stronger to the recipient which now we know was the father.

What was the aim of the comments? Venting? Because it wasn't criticisim, there was literally nothing TB could other than remove the video altogether because the panel had already been recorded. Let's assume it was just venting. If it's ok for them to vent why is it not ok for TB to vent about those people? That's also ignoring the common decency of not being sarcastic to a kid and also ignoring the context she is in. I have already talked about this. People complaining about not being considered while them themselves, did not consider the context and the scenario the kid was in and having zero empathy or consideration. It was not criticism and if venting, it was morally questionable.

Disclaimer: I'm only referring to people that made the dickish comments and those who upvoted said comments, the rest of you are cool. Like Jesse once said, if the shoe don't fit, don't wear it.

As to the reason why TB made his own generalizing comments, he explains it on this soundcloud. It was, as you predicted, a knee-jerk reaction to what he found morally bad. He wanted to stop the sentiment and be as far away as possible from it because he did not agree with it. He wanted to make sure that people, the kid and her parents don't think that he endorses such actions, and so he did what he thought made sense.

[–]Zankman [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

You saw comments that were just outright dickish and were not removed. "Fuck that kid" comes to mind.

Is is anything more than dickish and harsh, though?

Some were borderline vile and not removed,

You even say "borderline" - we all have different perceptions on what is problematic or not. I didn't browse the thread in immaculate detail, but on a few checks it did not contain any surviving "Vile" comments.

most were dickish and mean, but they were plenty, which makes their force stronger to the recipient which now we know was the father.

It does give a bad impression, yes.

What was the aim of the comments? Venting? Because it wasn't criticisim, there was literally nothing TB could other than remove the video altogether because the panel had already been recorded.

Yes and I hope that people did not blame TB for no reason.

Let's assume it was just venting. If it's ok for them to vent why is it not ok for TB to vent about those people? That's also ignoring the common decency of not being sarcastic to a kid and also ignoring the context she is in. I have already talked about this. People complaining about not being considered while them themselves, did not consider the context and the scenario the kid was in and having zero empathy or consideration.

What can I say except: "touche"?

Very good point, I am happy to have read this and have it disspell the one-way nature of my POV on this.

Ugh, just makes it more complicated; doesn't really help though, as it doesn't lower "our" crime, just like it doesn't lower "his".

It was not criticism and if venting, it was morally questionable.

I would not go that far - I'd call it "inconsiderate venting".

That is what this is about, no? "The kid could see it" and "Have some restraint!".

That, along with a lack of empathy and emotional foresight sounds like being inconsiderate to me!

Disclaimer: I'm only referring to people that made the dickish comments and those who upvoted said comments, the rest of you are cool. Like Jesse once said, if the shoe don't fit, don't wear it.

Yeah I am just kinda defending everyone cuz I don't think that it is THAT bad, although as we analyzed the comments, it's not ideal and is harsh...

As to the reason why TB made his own generalizing comments, he explains it on this soundcloud. It was, as you predicted, a knee-jerk reaction to what he found morally bad. He wanted to stop the sentiment and be as far away as possible from it because he did not agree with it. He wanted to make sure that people, the kid and her parents don't think that he endorses such actions, and so he did what he thought made sense.

Yeah, I see.

It was, unfortunately, still all so messy and clumsy.

Although I see why he thinks that way - and think that it is O.K. if he disagrees - I personally just can't move away from the notion that comments like "ugh, annoying laugh" were made out to be "the kid literately must die".

[–]Deyerli [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Yeah, I wrote morally questionable because I didn't know how to express it, inconsiderate sounds way more fitting.

Yes and I hope that people did not blame TB for no reason.

People were blaming TB for no reason, indirectly. Why would they post their complaints about sound quality here then? Why not post them to the actually relevant place that would be the Dragoncon forums/contact list. Dragoncon staff doesn't read this subreddit, they don't care about it. So what purpose does it have then, to post your complaint about audio quality here when there was literally nothing TB could do? Why would you complain about the kid or parents if the annoying voice was only hearable in the recording, once the deed was done? When nothing could be done. It's just like you and I said, inconsiderate venting with no real purpose.

You predicted TB's actions really well. It was a knee-jerk reaction to the inconsiderate comments. Him being a father and also caring about his fans, he could see that real emotional damage could be done, and it did occur. So, wanting to get the hell away, he made a quick comment based on emotions and morality, which helped the fire. He even said in the soundcloud that he doesn't know what to do, because he feels a moral obligation to respond, but knows that doing so only hurts even more. And like himself, I don't know what the appropriate action would be. Because "us" is not a single entity and therefore, we can't mutually apologize.

And yes, it does boil down to a moral problem. A problem about being considerate, because any other variable for those comments doesn't exist as I have already explained why they don't count as criticism and only venting. I think we can say that those comments "started" the "conflict", and TB shot back, and then "we" shot back. In real life, this would be solved by accepting that both sides were idiots and move on, however when one side is like 100* people... it becomes far more complicated.

*bullshit, not actual number but more of an expression.

[–]Zankman [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

People were blaming TB for no reason, indirectly. Why would they post their complaints about sound quality here then? Why not post them to the actually relevant place that would be the Dragoncon forums/contact list. Dragoncon staff doesn't read this subreddit, they don't care about it. So what purpose does it have then, to post your complaint about audio quality here when there was literally nothing TB could do? Why would you complain about the kid or parents if the annoying voice was only hearable in the recording, once the deed was done? When nothing could be done. It's just like you and I said, inconsiderate venting with no real purpose.

Well, thing is, I don't think saying "Eh, mediocre episode, audio quality was bad, unfortunately the kid's laugh kinda annoyed and distracted me" is problematic, nor is it just pointless venting - it's feedback and making conversation.

Obviously, tho, there were harsher sentiments shared.

You predicted TB's actions really well. It was a knee-jerk reaction to the inconsiderate comments. Him being a father and also caring about his fans, he could see that real emotional damage could be done, and it did occur. So, wanting to get the hell away, he made a quick comment based on emotions and morality, which helped the fire. He even said in the soundcloud that he doesn't know what to do, because he feels a moral obligation to respond, but knows that doing so only hurts even more. And like himself, I don't know what the appropriate action would be. Because "us" is not a single entity and therefore, we can't mutually apologize.

Hm, indeed. It is now a tough position to him. I wish some of us could talk to him, just to give him insight on a few different POVs. :/

Ultimately, whether I got annoyed or not, I do still like TB, the content creator and TB, the person, has never given me any reason to dislike him (albeit he has had his annoying moments, haha).

And yes, it does boil down to a moral problem. A problem about being considerate, because any other variable for those comments doesn't exist as I have already explained why they don't count as criticism and only venting. I think we can say that those comments "started" the "conflict", and TB shot back, and then "we" shot back. In real life, this would be solved by accepting that both sides were idiots and move on, however when one side is like 100* people... it becomes far more complicated.

*bullshit, not actual number but more of an expression.

Yes, the medium and the drastic difference in "numbers per side" makes this all the more confusing.

I've thought about making a "poll", to see where the community is at.

[–]Deyerli [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well, thing is, I don't think saying "Eh, mediocre episode, audio quality was bad, unfortunately the kid's laugh kinda annoyed and distracted me" is problematic, nor is it just pointless venting - it's feedback and making conversation.

Alright, that's a good point. Comments like that are not inconsiderate venting, they are conversation points and not necessarily with malicious intent. The top 3 threads were the same topic though, one would think people only need one of the same kind of a conversation point to have said conversation, not three. But still, good point.

Ultimately, whether I got annoyed or not, I do still like TB, the content creator and TB, the person, has never given me any reason to dislike him (albeit he has had his annoying moments, haha).

Same, I have my gripes with TB, mainly how he treats his Twitch chat, but I still like him as a person. He also accepts his problems even though, like he said, he keeps making them, which is understandable because it's really hard to change mentally.

I've thought about making a "poll", to see where the community is at.

Like a poll on whether to apologize or not? And only vote if you "shot" at TB in a comment? That seems hard because there is 2 kinds of apologies. First are the inconsiderate comments about the kid's voice which I think should apologize. But then there is the people who didn't care about the voice but got annoyed at TB generalizing them. If you are on both groups then a mutual, majority apology works. However if you are only in the second group there is no reason as to why you should apologize because you did nothing wrong, you just defended yourself. The one apologizing should be only TB in that case. And that's why it's complicated.

Maybe a sticky post made by a mod where we fight it out with arguments instead of upvotes/downvotes and the "side" with the strongest argument wins and we go from there? Not doing anything and let it blow over? No idea. I do like the idea of an argument colosseum though just because it's funny.

[–]Zankman [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Alright, that's a good point. Comments like that are not inconsiderate venting, they are conversation points and not necessarily with malicious intent. The top 3 threads were the same topic though, one would think people only need one of the same kind of a conversation point to have said conversation, not three. But still, good point.

Thanks, but, likewise, yes, when the same chain of thought appears in a bunch of comments in the same thread, it becomes kinda repetitive and just drives home the notion that the userbase is "obsessed" with how annoying the laugh was.

Alright, that's a good point. Comments like that are not inconsiderate venting, they are conversation points and not necessarily with malicious intent. The top 3 threads were the same topic though, one would think people only need one of the same kind of a conversation point to have said conversation, not three. But still, good point.

Ah, yes, if only acknowledging that you have a problem was enough to change it. :D

vote

I meant a vote, with multiple options, on how we perceived the average/top comments in the OG thread.

  • "Totally normal"

  • "Acceptable but it would be great if people were more considerate"

  • "A bit harsh and inappropriate"

  • "Actively rude and with malice"

  • "Straight up harassment and bullying"

That way, while automatically taking out the "I hope that kid dies" tier of comment, we can get to gauge how the community feels about what is "O.K." and what is "too much".

[–]Deyerli [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The general trend has been on the side of the subreddit however, especially with how people perceive the comments in the original thread. The general consensus has been slightly changing, but that was due to the influx of people from the tweets. I feel like that type of vote would be heavily biased to benefit the "community" but there is no way of knowing that other than to actually try it. So if you want to, go ahead.

Thing is, this is already over. Genna blocked reddit on her network so this place is now officially, no longer officially unofficial. Sad state of affairs really.

[–]Waytofind [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I would not mind seeing some links to the comments that actually "attacked" the kid.

I also wonder if mine from that thread could be considered as such. Which was the 4th or so parent comment from the top down.

[–]Zankman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, TB and some others feel like even "gosh, what an annoying laugh that kid has" is too much.

I see it, yes, as harsh and inconsiderate, since it may potentially be read by that kid and upset them.

However, I don't see it as horrible or actively malevolent.

EDIT:

Sorry, forgot.

No your comment is just fine. Anything more than that could be harsh or rude.

[–]Vordreller [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

And what is the end goal here anyway? Is this supposed to acomplish something? Should people apologize for making a comment about the laughter? Because honestly, I think you just pissing people off in this subreddit by making them look like some kind of evil child haters or something, which I don't think was the point at all.

Towards that question, I urge you to consider how some of the more vile parts of British media work when something happens that they don't like. Vilifying people for having the wrong opinion. Misrepresenting what people said. Pulling things out of context. Establishing a narrative that only takes in to account their accepted view of the situation. Trying to control the entire conversation.

And then compare that to TB's handling of the situation.

The similarities stand out to me.

[–]littlestminish [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think that was much more a matter of knee-jerking to a thing that he was trying to put a damper on. He was very bad a phrasing something through twitter and had a relatively short twitlonger. Most of the twit-longer was dedicated to saying "hey we'll try to improve the audio the next time" or something to that effect. He was just freaking clumsy in the the delivery of what was supposed to be a specific reprisal.

[–]MrRick1781 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Put a 10 year old kid up against anything and the kid will come out on top. Then you can claim that the deleted comments were really bad, without giving examples of them. Then the icing on the cake is to take it to Twitter and comment how big and bad the subreddit is, and how evil it is to comment on a kids laugh. Then let it simmer for couple of days few more comments on Twitter as seasoning, then release a soundcloud that should have been out day one.

As and end goal even if he makes another place for people to comment on his videos, it wont take long before he is complaining about people being people on the internet there.

This has personally lessened my opinion of TB as a whole, maybe a good at the end of the day.

[–]Sacramentlog [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The point of all this is for people to be heard. If they find they do not like something about one of their favourite things they will point it out. But what's the point in pointing if there is nobody else to look. TB only responds if there is something wrong, so let's make it wrong and see what happens and now it happened.

Congrats everyone, you made a mess!

[–]ElvisNeedsBoats [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nobody in that thread could have know how old or what gender the kid is.

The only people that knew FOR SURE was TB, Genna and the panel and even GENNA made a jab at the kid because of her behavior with the "Markiplier" comment.

Yet, I don't seem to hear TB windging on about her conduct towards a innocent, defenseless child.

Like it or not, TB is now a business man in the public eye. PLEASE, just hire a social media person and delete your passwords so you can no longer log in. For whatever reason, you can't mentally handle it. Just do what you do best and make Youtube videos.

EDIT: It was Pewdiepie, not Markiplier.

[–]insadragon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm going to cross-post my reply to a similar comment on TB's tweet yesterday , too much to re-write:

I totally get why people would have issues with a laugh or a voice, although to me it was a non factor since I expect crowd noises at a live panel & seem to have a high tolerance for voices that a lot of people find annoying. Also I do think TB over-reacts sometimes when trying to describe an over-view of a comment section, a good example was calling the criticisms of the 15 min of game "Welp, subreddit seems to hate the new format." when it was more about that particular game.

When I looked at the comments for this live panel video (it was about 150 comments I think at the time) my thoughts were about this: Huh, guess there was someone in there that really bugged some people....scroll scroll.... damn a lot of people.... scroll scroll.... man is this all everyone is going to talk about?.... scroll /end.... Hmm, that wasn't too helpful or interesting, at least it was quick.

But in this case just the amount of comments just talking about that at least vs other things about the video, I'd guess that % of comments would be on the high side, and yes that can easily be a vocal minority as well, but damn that is kinda harsh to see. Seeing a few highly up-voted reasonable criticism comments in a big discussion on the video isn't bad at all, seeing a wall of mostly discussing one random whoever's one thing that grated on quite a few nerves instead of the true matter at hand, also done in the place that the same person is likely to show up. If you think about it who would want to come across that for something so random. What if your tweet/comment to your 10 followers/small sub-reddit got a whole thread dedicated to hating it. Then you add in the factor of age & the apparent fact that the crowd/panel didn't mind, you get the whole paternal instinct kicking in when defending, TB I'm looking at you here (remember his favorite game pick, the instinct is strong with this one) & in this case is pretty justified for that view.

I don't really know if there is anything to be done, except to hopefully take this as a call to reason at least to take into account the subject of the criticism. If it's a random person in an audience or something similar, try to keep it reasonable: just hand out a few upvotes to the decent comments instead of adding a low effort - I agree and was so annoyed - comment to the pile. Try not to create multiple trees of comments, stick with one reasonable criticism thread & probably one joke thread. Maybe be a bit more free with downvotes for ones that can't keep it civil at least, and dump a bucket of downvotes on any troll you see: No feeding, they bite.

TL;DR TB does over-react sometimes but in this case not so much. Also he is channeling his inner Big Daddy, so Would You Kindly be a bit more civil when it's a small nobody in the shadows, it might save TB the effort of getting out the drill.

[–]Snagprophet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also, places like Subredditdrama and the like, who act like they're all following a particular narrative, i.e. on Gamergate etc just blame TB for "attracting this audience" in the first place. So now it's other people blaming us, but also they're tarring TB with this brush too. So it damages his image.

I don't even know what drama is happening. People were annoyed. Some people expressed this more abusively. Subreddit gets generalised by both TB and Genna. People complain. Genna generalises again.

There is no drama involving anyone who posted disgusting comments about the owner of the laughter (I'm saying owner because no-one knew it was a 10 year old girl, although I imagine it could've sounded like someone younger). The only drama is the majority of people active on this subreddit getting shat on by TB and all the other "I always hated TB's fans" people.

Anyway, as for the LauraK drama, where did that take place? I'm fairly sure people were talking about it before the VOD came up, so was that on this subreddit?

[–]Shiroi_Kage [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I honestly just heard obnoxious laughter and made a comment about the laugh without really thinking "hmm I wonder how old is that person, can I comment on this or not?".

Taking it personally.

There were many, many people complaining about the kid in the thread. You didn't make a nasty comment, but many others did. This whole thing is what sparked the controversy, and this audio blog was meant to address it, clarify TB's stance on it, and just muse about it (like he always does in his audio blogs)

I think you just pissing people off in this subreddit by making them look like some kind of evil child haters or something

I think people need to chill and not take it personally. The comments were at the sub's front page for a while and people were angry when those comments were denounced.

[–]pytagoras [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

If only people had criticized the organizer or TB for letting the child into the room instead of dozens of posts ragging on the child itself. You know, some constructive criticism aimed at people who can actually do something. If people had been smart enough to just do that, this mess wouldn't have happened.

You say you can't find any particularly vile or vulgar comments there and that is true to a certain degree. The most offensive ones were removed, but there are still so many posts focused solely on the child which are so incredible misdirected.

This is what ticked TB off in the first place and when people still tried to defend that action in the post regarding TBs first answer AND continued in the "antics" post, it is absolutely reasonable for Genna to completely disassociate the company from this subreddit as these opinions are allowed to stay, either by the inaction of the supposed majority that agrees with TB and his views or inaction by the mods.

[–]Naniwasopro [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

you know, some constructive criticism aimed at people who can actually do something. If people had been smart enough to just do that, this mess wouldn't have happened.

Even non-constructive criticism is helpful. It might not sound the nicest but you can always extract something useful from it.

[–]Deyerli [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Can you? Really? Your comment is shit! Why is it shit you ask? I don't know, but apparently my comment was helpful in some way. If don't give reasons as to why your comment is shit then you can do nothing to fix it, making my comment useless. If I cared enough I'd give reasons but given that I haven't you can safely assume I'm just an idiot who doesn't like your personal reasons. A non constructive comment is more akin to an ad hominem than to an actual criticism.

[–]Luthais [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you suck

i hope you learn from this.

/s

[–]nathan0905 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Many people did criticize TB.