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[–]Maymaytics 378ポイント379ポイント  (65子コメント)

1) Is this sub fucking with us or are they serious

2) Now I'm super hungry, this is what I get for skipping breakfast and then checking reddit at work.

[–]hoodoo-operator 177ポイント178ポイント  (16子コメント)

Is this sub fucking with us or are they serious

Honestly, I think it's a little of both. Feigning seriousness about an irrelevant topic can be fun.

But then there are always people who take the feigned seriousness to heart.

[–]Gusfoo 60ポイント61ポイント  (11子コメント)

But then there are always people who take the feigned seriousness to heart.

And thus the parody subs become serious over time. And then we get those "Wait,.... what? Are you taking this seriously?" moments.

[–]Cronyx 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

ShitRedditSays, or at least it's primordial form, can trace it's abiogenesis to a thread on the Something Awful forum which was feigning mock indignation about, back then, mocking furries. Specifically, the ones that think they have the spirit of a ten thousand year old dragon or werewolf or something -- therians and "otherkin". Most of those sorts were on Tumblr then as well. When Twilight was all the rage, you were awash in vampires as well. There's a direct lineage from that to the modern SJW tropes. I'm not comparing a guy who thinks they're a wolf to a guy who thinks they're a girl. I'm saying that a lot of the people who, acting as trolls, mockingly supported -- in the most vitriolic and radical tones of combative advocacy possible -- the "rights" of otherkin/therians (I remember one instance of a girl complaining on her LiveJournal that the band of her phone headset she had to wear at her receptionist job hurt her ears. Not her real ones, her spirit cat ears. People piled on to her defense -- for the lulz, mind you -- and harassed her employer) are the ones who graduated on to using the same tactics to "support" -- again, disingenuously, for "the lulz" and troll humor -- the trans demographics. A lot of the strife was actually manufactured to provide an antagonist for their manufactured protagonist narrative. The newbies to the "movement" didn't know that both the most extreme grievances and strife were contrived, as was that the support against the scarecrow antagonists performance. The joke took on a life of its own and escaped the laboratory. SRS... Is a Potemkin village, with well meaning but unknowing denizens.

[–]KingOfWorms 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the dopest meta you ever smoked

[–]justcool393TotesMessenger Shill 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

All I got from that is that "grilled cheese = SRS". Or maybe vampires. I don't know. Which I think I can respectfully disagree with.

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        [–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? 280ポイント281ポイント  (34子コメント)

        1) Is this sub fucking with us or are they serious

        A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire subreddit consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called "grilledcheese" is nothing short of utter blasphemy. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled "melts" because that is not a fucking grilled cheese. I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over reddit and it's been driving me insane. The moment i saw this subreddit this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now.

        You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt.

        [–]steel_shot 220ポイント221ポイント  (22子コメント)

        Here's the thing. You said a "melt is a grilled cheese" Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies grilled cheese, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls melts grilled cheese. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "melt family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of meltae, which includes things from tuna melts to pulled pork melts to chicken melts. So your reasoning for calling a melt a grilled is because random people "call the extra ingredients grilled cheese?" Let's get steak and bacon melts in there, then, too. Also, calling something tomato soup or ketchup? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A melt is a melt and a member of the grilled cheese family. But that's not what you said. You said a melt is a grilled cheese, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the grilled cheese family melts, which means you'd call Philly Cheese steak, beef dip, and other sandwiches grilled cheese, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

        [–]Plexipus 78ポイント79ポイント  (11子コメント)

        You know, this copypasta actually makes me think the "melt" dude was right. If you start adding all these other ingredients to it and still call it a grilled cheese, then you could end up saying that a philly cheese steak or a cheeseburger are types of grilled cheese, which would be silly.

        [–]allnose 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I think the general consensus was that the cheese had to be the star of the show. That would exclude nearly every cheeseburger and cheesesteak, while keeping the bacon or tomato grilled cheeses we all know and love.

        [–]Plexipus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That's my opinion too. Something like a grilled ham and cheese or a tomato basil & mozzarella sandwich would be grilled cheeses, and something like grilled cheese and tuna would be a tuna melt.

        [–]NKenobi 41ポイント42ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Yeah bro the melt guy was always right. The majority of sandwiches are toasted and include cheese as a component. What makes a grilled cheese what it is, is the fact that toasted bread and cheese is all it is.

        [–]FCDRandy 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

        A pepperoni pizza is an open-faced grilled cheese sandwich.

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          [–]bdsorensenPoe's Law, Shmoes Law 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Oh my god I want bacon on my grilled cheese now.

          [–]lolpierandomEvery day, we stray further from god's light 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Then that's a melt.

          [–]bdsorensenPoe's Law, Shmoes Law 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

          What, my grilled cheese with bacon?

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              [–]Mdogg2005 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

              10.3k fucking upvotes, haven't laughed so hard all week.

              [–]smokebreakdrama connoisseur 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

              He's not wrong....

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                [–]emmsterIf you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me. 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Me too. I really want a grilled cheese now.

                [–]LieBaronGCU Found The Fatty 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Is this sub fucking with us or are they serious

                yes

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                  [–]superslab 571ポイント572ポイント  (166子コメント)

                  until then, i'll still continue to say that your grilled cheese is ruined with such a rudimentary condiment. your taste buds must be dead if you consider that something normal to eat with grilled cheese

                  That's incredible. I hope he wears a monocle.

                  [–]ItsSugar 118ポイント119ポイント  (25子コメント)

                  Fucking ketchup plebs refusing to use glorious ajvar.

                  [–]rabiiiii 52ポイント53ポイント  (21子コメント)

                  Ah, so you have tried ajvar? It's delicious and works as a topping and spread. Im going to go have some ajvar right now!

                  [–]larrylemur[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] SHILLIONAIRE [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅ 46ポイント47ポイント  (17子コメント)

                  It's a reference to previous food drama where a guy ranted through multiple comment threads about how great ajvar is

                  [–]ItsSugar 60ポイント61ポイント  (13子コメント)

                  Ketchup shills can't handle the TRUTH. AJVAR MASTERRACE

                  [–]rabiiiii 36ポイント37ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  That is probably my favorite drama of 2015.

                  [–]ItsSugar 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  Top quality drama that got lost in the swirl of GG, Pao hate, and the Fappening.

                  [–]rabiiiii 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Man I get so happy when I see stuff like this grilled cheese thread. Good drama should bring us all together, not tear us apart from within.

                  [–]IDontKnowHowToPMremove flair 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Pfft, the Fappening was sooo 2014.

                  [–]ItsSugar 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  You're right, meant to write "Fattening".

                  [–]IDontKnowHowToPMremove flair 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I figured as much, but couldn't pass up the opportunity to sound like a drama hipster.

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                    [–]inn0vat3 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Oh my god that's hilarious. Got the SRD thread? Reddit search isn't helping me out.

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                      [–]GuyRobertsBalley 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I'm suprised there is even any drama whatsoever surrounding ajvar when it is known that ajvar is a superior condiment.

                      [–]rabiiiii 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I was making the same reference. I'm aware.

                      [–]larrylemur[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] SHILLIONAIRE [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Sorry, carry on!

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                        [–]fiddle_nAllahu Ajvar 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Allahu ajvar, brother.

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                          [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 287ポイント288ポイント  (124子コメント)

                          Let's be real, grilled cheese is super delicious, but it's a quick meal or something you make for your kids. We're not talking foie gras here.

                          [–]drackaer 366ポイント367ポイント  (86子コメント)

                          If you want a -300 post, go put that in the grilled cheese sub. Shit's serious.

                          Another reason why food drama is the best drama

                          [–]lenaroBeliebertarian 103ポイント104ポイント  (44子コメント)

                          wait are they actually serious there

                          it's fucking grilled cheese

                          now i'm wondering ... is there a ketchup subreddit and do they do this shit there too?

                          [–]CallMeOatmeal 100ポイント101ポイント  (30子コメント)

                          Go over there and post a grilled cheese with something on it other than cheese, bread, and butter - I dare you.

                          [–]lenaroBeliebertarian 119ポイント120ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          What about ajvar?

                          [–]happyhappytoasttoast 49ポイント50ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Lets not start this again

                          [–]mgrier123Will shill for keks 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Oh man, have you even tried ajvar? It's like, the best thing since grilled cheese with ketchup!

                          [–]_lilPoundcakeI ATEN'T DED 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'm glad we have ajvar shills here

                          [–]ValuableConversationprofessional sjw 82ポイント83ポイント  (8子コメント)

                          Here's the thing. You called a melt a grilled cheese.

                          [–]Karuta 72ポイント73ポイント  (7子コメント)

                          A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire subreddit consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called "grilledcheese" is nothing short of utter blasphemy. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled "melts" because that is not a fucking grilled cheese. I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over reddit and it's been driving me insane. The moment i saw this subreddit this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now. You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt.

                          [–]isanass 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Pulled from that time an /r/grilledcheese subscriber had a breakdown regarding the difference between melts and grilled cheese sandwiches.

                          Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick/

                          Original BestOf: https://np.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/2orp6j/ufuck_blue_shells_passionately_explains_the/

                          [–]stygmata 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I wonder if this guy actually makes his grilled cheese on a grill, and not in a fucking pan like a plebian.

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                            [–]zaron5551 18ポイント19ポイント  (12子コメント)

                            I make my grilled cheese using nonstick spray since it's easier to get full fat coverage of the bread, do you think they'd hate me for that?

                            [–]CallMeOatmeal 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I think you may be generally in the clear, although a few might snub their nose at you.

                            [–]carrayhay(´･ω･`) DENKO HYPE SQUAD 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Yeah I use aluminum foil and An iron you think I'm in the clear too?

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                              [–]teknrd 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              This makes me want to tell them to spread mayonnaise on the bread before putting the cheese on it. I've never tried it that way myself, but I have friends that swear by it.

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                                [–]phedreYour tone seems very pointed right now. 29ポイント30ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                If there's one thing I've learned after all my time on SRD, it's that people will argue over ANYTHING.

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/ketchup/

                                It exists. Guaranteed there's a fight in there somewhere.

                                [–]Xo0om 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/ketchup

                                Ahh ketchup, was the greatest thing before sliced bread came along. There are few things that can't be improved with judicious use of the food of the gods.

                                Screw the naysayers and the avjarites alike. Poor guy had to defend his sandwich from non ketchup eating troglodytes.

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                                  [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 53ポイント54ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                  I'm almost tempted...

                                  "For the drama"

                                  [–]noisette915 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  Really need a gif of Aragorn in the last battle of Return of the King at the Black Gate turning and saying "For Drama" as he charges into the orc hordes.

                                  [–]elementalmw 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  I imagine the a warboy from "Fury Road" with one of those explosive sprears.

                                  WITNESS ME!!!!

                                  [–]PendantOfBagels 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  You will ride eternal, shinygolden and chromebuttery...

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                                    [–]HyrulianGengar 57ポイント58ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                    I mean yeah it isn't foie gras but you can do some pretty rad stuff with a grilled cheese. I like buttering both sides, putting cheese on top and baking it, makes the cheese outside sorta crunchy and the rest like any other grilled cheese. I add ham too but please don't let /r/grilledcheese know though because adding anything inside of the sandwich that isn't cheese is a bold and risky move that does not usually pay off there.

                                    [–]bethlookneryou say that like it's a bad thing 34ポイント35ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                    I like using mozzarella and pesto on whole grain seeded bread. I also really like Havarti, basil, tomato and a little bit of honey on ciabatta.

                                    Also, sharp cheddar (the kind you get at Whole Foods) with bacon and slices of gala apple.

                                    Goddamn, I love cheese.

                                    [–]HyrulianGengar 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Gooooooood, those sound insanely good. Sharp cheddar is my favorite to use, but havarti and munster are really good too. I basically made a Reuben the other day with no meat, so like a grilled cheese with swiss and sauerkraut and dipped it in Thousand Island, also freaking good. You just gotta watch that the sauerkraut doesn't soggy up the bread or get hot. Corned beef or pastrami would have been better but hey it was still delish

                                    [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    And tacos.

                                    [–]Pdigitalis 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I go my pesto-grilled cheese with chevre and cherry peppers. Highly recommended.

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                                      [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 24ポイント25ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                      Oh man, that sounds delicious. Don't get me wrong... I'm not shit-talking grilled cheese. I'm shit-talking people turning their nose up at using a specific condiment because it's not up to their standards.

                                      [–]HyrulianGengar 24ポイント25ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                      Especially ketchup. I really don't get ketchup. Mustard paste with salt and spices, totally fine. Tomato paste with salt and spices, get the fuck out of here. Like what? Ketchup is fucking delicious and yeah kids like it, but you know what else kids like? Pizza and ice cream and tons of delicious shit I'm still gonna eat. I'm gonna char a steak to well done and put it in a grilled cheese and dip it in ketchup and give all of the food subs at once an aneurysm.

                                      [–]_lilPoundcakeI ATEN'T DED 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I hate ketchup fite me irl

                                      [–]q8pA̭̟̯͖̺y̭͇̘͕͇͔͠ý̬͇ ̟͢ͅL̷͚͖͇̩̩͍͔m͇͈̱̪͉a̜͈͙̝o̻ 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                      I bet /r/shittyfoodporn would eat up your well-done steak grilled cheese.

                                      If you could somehow work in non-traditional tacos it'd be perfect.

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                                          [–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          I'm sure you could put foie gras on a grilled cheese but then you will have people complaining that you made a melt.

                                          [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          In food drama, there are no winners... only casualties.

                                          [–]Assy-McGee 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          More like "meltdowns" amirite?

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                                              [–]IronTitsMcGuintyGiving job security to MetaRedditOncologists 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              I'm quite sophisticated. I use an advanced condiment, Sriracha. Behold my glory. I am a culinary noblewoman of great esteem and valor.

                                              [–]Viking_Lordbeast 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Not only that, you would need a shit ton of ketchup to even begin to mask the flavor of that plethora of cheese. Are his taste buds not capable of tasting more than one thing at a time?

                                              [–]RIPGeorgeHarrison 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              Is there an /r/Iamverysmart type sub for food elitists?

                                              [–]NoveltyAccount5928Ellen Pao was the second chooter on the grassy knoll 42ポイント43ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Yeah, it's called /r/food

                                              [–]DrunkenFrankReynolds 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              found him

                                              [–]027915 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              buzz killington at your service.

                                              [–]dustinyo_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              The anti-ketchup crowd is really serious about making sure everyone else knows they don't like ketchup and they are a better person with a better and more refined palate because of it.

                                              [–]beautifulcreature86 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Seriously, my boyfriend is Swedish and LOVES ketchup. I don't care for it unless it is in a burger. I will dunk that shit on my buns. I'm a Chef and can't share plates with him because the ketchup taste is too sweet. He even puts it on pasta. But you know what? He's the one fucking eating it. Why is it my business. Also, I love hot dogs with ketchup. Ketchup thug FTW!

                                              [–]Vio_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I'm sure he wears two. One over his eyepatch

                                              [–]AngrySiouxBaru 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              I dip my grilled cheese in ketchup. My taste buds are indeed not dead, good sir. Might is propose that you sir, thou, are the one with rudimentary tastes in only requiring bread and cheese to satisfy ones pallet. A meal with only two ingredients!? How pedestrian and proletariat.

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                                                [–]bitterredSRS is the Kanye West of Reddit 125ポイント126ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                You're still replying after saying you don't give a fuck. I, on the other hand, continue to reply because it's funny how upset you are. You must be one of those thin-skinned little guys who everyone fucks with because it's hilarious to see you whinge.

                                                but seriously, learn how to eat a grilled cheese. i bet you put catsup on your well-done steak, too.

                                                Grilled cheese is serious business you guys. And so is steak preference.

                                                [–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                He is doing a really bad job at convincing people that he isn't upset.

                                                [–]HorseCode 40ポイント41ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                God, if I see another thread burning someone at the stake (heh) for liking their steak cooked any other way but rare I'm gonna delete my Reddit account.

                                                [–]cfrydj 62ポイント63ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                So how do you plan to spend your last hour on Reddit?

                                                [–]jsmooth7Billionaires' Rights Activist[S] 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                I wonder if they have like a Reddit Bucket List?

                                                [–]Stellar_Duck 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                After crossing out 'Have someone send me death threats' and 'be linked by SRS' I just need to have someone send me their boobs in a PM and I think I'm done with Reddit.

                                                [–]SteampunkWolfTʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs ɴᴏ sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛɪᴄᴇ, ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴜs. 22ポイント23ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                Whenever I see people shitting on well done steaks, I watch this video of Gordon Ramsay during Masterchef.

                                                [–]mydearwatson616 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                Wow that first one was bordering on medium well? I would have called that medium rare, and I like my steak cool in the middle.

                                                [–]rabiiiii 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Yeah people don't get that well done steaks can be good. It's just that they're really hard to do without overcooking them.

                                                [–]CallMeOatmeal 10ポイント11ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                Why? Ramsay doesn't give his opinion either way on well-done steaks in this clip, he's just judging how well they were able to cook the steaks as directed. I thought you were going to link to Ramsay saying well-done steaks are great or something.

                                                [–]SteampunkWolfTʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs ɴᴏ sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛɪᴄᴇ, ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴜs. 17ポイント18ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                "There is an art in cooking a well done steak. A lot of chefs disregard the importance of cooking it to perfection."
                                                Contrast that with the 'give anyone who wants a well done steak the worst cut and cook it however since they can't tell the difference anyway' attitude you'll often see on reddit.

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                                                    [–]joethesaint 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    for liking their steak cooked any other way but rare

                                                    If there are people who think like this then they are being pretentious wrong. It depends on the cut of beef. Jeez.

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                                                      [–]Ozymandius383 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      God, the "I'm more over this than you are" fight is such a delicious flavor of flame war.

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                                                        [–]out_stealing_horsesshadow boxing the faceless menace that is social justice. 39ポイント40ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                        catsup

                                                        I'm surprised they haven't come to blows on whether to spell it "ketchup" or "catsup".

                                                        [–]bergyd 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        ketchup.... or... catsup?

                                                        [–]TheCutestAboard 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        This better be Montgomery Burns...

                                                        Edit: Good.

                                                        [–]PlexxT 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                        They are completely different things.

                                                        [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        Please, go on...

                                                        [–]56k_modem_noisesfrom the future to warn you about SKYNET 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        One is made of cats.

                                                        The other is Catsup.

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                                                          [–]mrgoodnighthairdoChuckSpears did nothing wrong 115ポイント116ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                          I usually enjoy my grilled cheese with tomato basil soup, but I was way too hungry to make it.

                                                          Hold on just a ketchup dippin second here. He was way too hungry to make a soup, but not so hungry that he couldn't photo document the entire sandwich making process?

                                                          [–]Ahmon 64ポイント65ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                          It checks out. Grilled cheese is a three minute meal. Soup is at least twenty minutes, probably more like four hours for /r/grilledcheese tastes.

                                                          [–]crystal_beachhousefree speech helps the bottom line 109ポイント110ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          Fuck that. All you have to do to make soup is dump it in a pot, throw that shit on high, go jerk off, and when you come back it's done. Grilled cheese has like twelve steps, one of which is owning cheese that you haven't already eaten at like 2 am cause you can't be bothered to cook anything. I have self control issues.

                                                          [–]countchocula86cereal magnate 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          one of which is owning cheese that you haven't already eaten

                                                          story of my fucking life. hey wheres that cheese, oh right I ATE IT BECAUSE I AM AN INSATIABLE MONSTER

                                                          [–]AlwaysDefenestrated 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I just buy more cheese than a reasonable human could possibly eat. That usually ends up being about the right amount of cheese.

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                                                              [–]4445414442454546this is not flair 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                              Well he probably took the pictures of the cheese hours before he decided to make the grilled cheese (because who wouldn't want to brag when they got a cheese windfall?). Then that evening his stomach grumbled and he went "hey, I have a ton of various kinds of cheese!" He had the self control to take a grand total of 1 picture while cooking it and then 1 as he ate it. The soup would have taken a lot longer assuming he's not talking about pre-canned stuff.

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                                                                [–]drunkenviking 60ポイント61ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                Can you assholes stop pissing in the popcorn? It's so obvious on a 3 month old post.

                                                                [–]jsmooth7Billionaires' Rights Activist[S] 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                Oh god there are so many of them now! I should have just waited another three months, to preserve the purity of the drama. :(

                                                                [–]andrew2209Sorry, I'm not from Swindon. 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                Look at the scores now, compared to the scores from the archived bot, there's been some brigading from here.

                                                                [–]SuitableDragonfly 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                And they're all like "ho hum, I just happened upon this post right now"!

                                                                [–]vgman20 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Hey, this is a good thing. Lets us weed out the popcorn pissers easily.

                                                                [–]jsmooth7Billionaires' Rights Activist[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                It's just sad to watch, you know. It's like seeing a fragile alpine flower get stomped on by careless tourists. (And I guess in this analogy the fragile flower is... a guy who is mad about someone else eating ketchup.)

                                                                But you're right, hopefully this helps make a stronger SRD for tomorrow. Also I am getting a ton of karma from this post. So that's pretty nice.

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                                                                  [–]ArchangelleDovakinsubsistence popcorn farmer 43ポイント44ポイント  (41子コメント)

                                                                  Wow, I think they're actually serious about that ketchup hate.

                                                                  [–]onlyonebread 27ポイント28ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                                                  I think a lot people on reddit just hate ketchup for some reason.

                                                                  [–]SharMarali 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  You could replace "ketchup" with any other word or phrase and your statement would still stand.

                                                                  Reddit, where everyone hates everything and OP is always an asshole.

                                                                  [–]bitterredSRS is the Kanye West of Reddit 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  I hate ketchup. It's too sweet. Sometimes I'll have it on a burger.

                                                                  I have come around to mustard recently.

                                                                  [–]rabiiiii 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Have you tried ajvar?

                                                                  [–]iheartdewey 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Stop trying to make ajvar happen.

                                                                  [–]56k_modem_noisesfrom the future to warn you about SKYNET 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  you can't just ask people if they've had avjar...

                                                                  [–]junkit33 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                  Ketchup hate extends well beyond Reddit. For example, ask somebody in Chicago for ketchup on your hot dog. Or a Belgian for ketchup on your fries...

                                                                  Quite frankly I don't really get it. Yes, Heinz and the like is a putrid sugar paste. But you can certainly make ketchup that tastes a hell of a lot better than Heinz. And there are shitty mustards and shitty mayos and shitty versions of every other condiment out there too though, so I don't know why ketchup gets singled out. Probably because it's so popular in the US...

                                                                  [–]CallMeOatmeal 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                  Ketchup is way too sweet, to me it's like putting candy on my dinner. I will, however, use it sparingly sometimes. I'll mix 1 part ketchup with 3 parts mayo for a great french fry dip.

                                                                  [–]out_stealing_horsesshadow boxing the faceless menace that is social justice. 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Sir Kensingtons makes a spicy ketchup that is a tasty revelation. They put cayenne, lime and coriander in it if I'm not mistaken.

                                                                  [–]moriya 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Their regular ketchup is great too. The first couple times I tried it I actually thought it wasn't sweet enough, despite having great tomato flavor, but my tastebuds adjusted over a few uses and now I think Heinz tastes like artificial tomato candy.

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                                                                    [–]simbaforpresident 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    I love ketchup, especially on food with melted cheese. I put it on eggs, grilled cheese, and mac & cheese.

                                                                    [–]Alexispinpgh 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    I pit ketchup on everything. I love to cook and I can make fancy shit and I like going out to fancy farm-to-table restaurants where they serve grilled octopus and local pickled vegetables and all that stuff, but I dip my sandwiches and my breakfast burritos and my sausages in ketchup at home all the time. And yes, it has to be on scrambled eggs or I can't eat them.

                                                                    [–]TheCutestAboard 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    We are ketchup soul mates.

                                                                    Sometimes I put ketchup on sharp hard cheeses.

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                                                                        [–]MacEnvy#butts 11ポイント12ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                        I always use tomato soup for grilled cheese dipping. I guess ketchup would be similar.

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                                                                          [–]KillerPotato_BMW 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          If you dip a grilled cheese sandwich in ketchup, is it still a grilled cheese sandwich?

                                                                          /r/redditkoans.

                                                                          [–]Statoke 42ポイント43ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                          Oh so thats what a grilled cheese is. I've heard it for so many years on American tv shows and online, its just a cheese toasty.

                                                                          [–]fuckthepolis2electric boogaloo 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                          Pretty much.

                                                                          [–]Brumairedᕙ̮̞̗̫̫̖༼̨̖̟̫͍͔ຈ̥̻ل͇̙ຈ̳͔̘̖͖̙̭༽̹̙̯̙̹͟ᕗ̣͓̺̻͔ 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          Alton Brown video? whelp looks like I'm about to jump down another youtube rabbit hole.

                                                                          [–]4THOTIt's really about games journalism if you think about it 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          you should check out Gordon Ramsay's channel, its really well edited and has a lot of neat stuff

                                                                          [–]byrel 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                          No grilled cheese though AFAIK

                                                                          [–]4THOTIt's really about games journalism if you think about it 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          here it is

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                                                                              [–]Droguelike 63ポイント64ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                                                              As a long time member of the /r/grilledcheese community let me say that I'm cool if you use ketchup, I'm cool if you use ham or bacon, if you use onions and so on. As long as the grilled cheese is the bones of your creation I think it belongs.

                                                                              [–]Chair_Aznablejust a big ol' weight-loss shill 26ポイント27ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                              Is the linked thread an accurate depiction of how seriously people take their grilled cheese? Just wondering.

                                                                              [–]Droguelike 38ポイント39ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                              yeah, it can be. There was a big asshole copypasta about how nothing but cheese, bread, and butter should be used. Some people took it to heart.

                                                                              [–]52daysnorth 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                              I want to know who these butter people think they are.

                                                                              [–]boobie_squooze 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              All I wanted was to show people the amount of free cheese I scored, and the resulting grilled cheese. Had I known my ketchup/Frank's compromise would devastate r/grilledcheese, I would have cropped it out.

                                                                              Live and learn.

                                                                              [–]rabiiiii 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              You're upvoted in that thread, I wouldn't worry about it lol.

                                                                              If it means anything you've inspired me to try hot sauce and ketchup with my next grilled cheese.

                                                                              [–]emmsterIf you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me. 16ポイント17ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                              So, since you're the resident expert now;

                                                                              If I put fresh mozzarella and basil on bread, brush it with olive oil, and cook it in a pan, and serve with roasted tomatoes, garlic, and chicken stock, pureed into a soup and cucumber salad with fresh dill, is that meal still grilled cheese and tomato soup?

                                                                              My mother in law and I differ on this question.

                                                                              [–]euphorie 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              It sounds really good, one way or another.

                                                                              [–]Droguelike 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                              Unsheathe your dagger definitions.

                                                                              [–]emmsterIf you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me. 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                              :)

                                                                              I called it grilled cheese and tomato soup. She thinks if it's "fancier" than Kraft singles and a can of Campbell's that I should call it by a fancier name. It's not high end gourmet food to me, though. That's just how my family always ate. We had a backyard garden and a small farm in the family. Baking bread, making cheese, and using fresh herbs and produce is how I always rolled.

                                                                              [–]Aycoth 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                              Find the French name for grilled cheese, start calling your grilled cheeses that. Problem solved.

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                                                                                [–]countchocula86cereal magnate 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                This is a difficult question, I believe the items must be sampled to give a proper verdict, so just....just send along those tasty treats....

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                                                                                  [–]firesquasher 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                  As a long time member of the /r/grilledcheese community let me say that I'm cool if you use ketchup, I'm cool if you use ham or bacon, if you use onions and so on. As long as the grilled cheese is the bones of your creation I think it belongs.

                                                                                  HERECY!

                                                                                  [–]Droguelike 34ポイント35ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                  Hey, if you get to spell things how you want I get to grill cheese how I want.

                                                                                  [–]countchocula86cereal magnate 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                  MELT THEM AT THE STEAK

                                                                                  [–]SteampunkWolfTʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs ɴᴏ sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛɪᴄᴇ, ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴜs. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  HERECY!

                                                                                  http://i.imgur.com/mLwxKym.png

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                                                                                    [–]bitterredSRS is the Kanye West of Reddit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Oh but this classic copypasta disagrees with you

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                                                                                      [–]4THOTIt's really about games journalism if you think about it 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                      I like grilled cheese with ketchup sometimes.

                                                                                      Covers up the taste of shitty shitty cheese.

                                                                                      [–]iheartdewey 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      I like to smother my Mac n cheese with ketchup.

                                                                                      [–]4THOTIt's really about games journalism if you think about it 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      feel no shame brother

                                                                                      [–]iheartdewey 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      I never have. I eat ketchup on everything. No ragrets.

                                                                                      [–]jess_sp 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      If you need ketchup with your sandwich, MAKE A BETTER GODDAMN SANDWICH

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                                                                                        [–]NocturnoOcculto 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        I love that no one there understands that tomatoes and cheese are practically culinary BFFs. Just about anything cheese pairs well with anything tomato based.

                                                                                        If they want to be so pedantic, they should argue that it wasnt made on a grill.

                                                                                        [–]pizzanudepics 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        /r/grilledcheese is always ready to melt someone at the stake for their heathen sandwich ways.

                                                                                        [–]RekdAnalCavity 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                        Now, is it a grilled cheese or a melt

                                                                                        [–]bethlookneryou say that like it's a bad thing 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                        Ohmigod, this could turn into the "is is still toast if it's cold" debate. That was a fun day.

                                                                                        [–]fdelta1Reddit is in the pocket of Big Seto Kaiba 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Here's the thing...

                                                                                        [–]jess_sp 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        down the rabbit hole we go.

                                                                                        [–]Jux_ 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                        OP, how did you find three month old grilled cheese drama?

                                                                                        [–]jsmooth7Billionaires' Rights Activist[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        I was looking through the top all time posts on the sub, and stumbled upon this lovely thread.

                                                                                        [–]krabbbyHere's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        More importantly, how the hell did we not get this 3 months ago?

                                                                                        [–]Gusfoo 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        /u/sciarrillo you should not comment in linked threads

                                                                                        [–]boobie_squooze 25ポイント26ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                                        Alright, people! Time to clear this up.

                                                                                        First, I really enjoy how u/jsmooth7 opened old wounds, dug up my old post, and posted this particular thread up. It was nothing I've ever experienced before. Props to you, OP!

                                                                                        Second, I had acquired a crazy amount of free assorted cheese, and made a couple of grilled cheese, and thought the sub would enjoy it. Most did, save for a select few who proceeded to berate me. One gentleman in particular, (the one who is quoted a couple of times in this post) was especially offended, and was completely unreasonable when trying to talk to him. It got to me.

                                                                                        Yes, apparently some in r/grilledcheese take it waaay to seriously. Some of them act like dictators, it's truly a sight. Most of them are good people, just wanting to share some tasty photos of grilled cheese.

                                                                                        Yes, I used a ketchup/Frank's mixture to dip my grilled cheese in. I am a dipper. Pizza and creamy garlic, toast and coffee, I love to dip. I don't particularly like spicy though, but do like the taste Frank's adds, so I dipped sparingly. But I did dip.

                                                                                        Yes, I am aware of soup. As usual when I have grilled cheese, I like to have soup with it more than anything else. I would have rathered tomato basil with my grilled cheese that day, but I didn't have any and wasn't about to go out to get some. So, screw that shit.

                                                                                        No, I do not like ketchup/catsup on my steak. I prefer my steaks cooked medium rare, with blue cheese crumbles atop. Also, what the hell is catsup anyways? I've never seen it before, nor do I know what it is. Ketchup...catsup...

                                                                                        So, if anyone has any other questions, or concerns on my eating preferences, let me know. I'm happy to clear it up.

                                                                                        [–]Sideroller 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                        I've never heard of dipping toast in coffee. Donuts in coffee? Yes. Toast in egg yolk? Yes. But toast in coffee? It's okay to just admit you're wrong you know? /s

                                                                                        [–]aphoenixrampant blizzard shilling 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        the reason coffee makes it better is because the coffee is hotter than the toast so if your toast cools down at all, a dip can bring the butter back to melting temp. i just don't see any value from the eggs. they're really a condiment. i feel like toast can benefit from interesting ingredients (and some of the toasts on this sub are interesting), but just a plain condiment like that... for me, yuck. it just turns into a toad-in-the-hole without the hole.

                                                                                        [–]boobie_squooze 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        It's gotta be quick dips, my friend. Or else that toast will fall to the bottom of the cup.

                                                                                        [–]halomomma 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        That surprise last drink when you aren't paying attention.

                                                                                        [–]aphoenixrampant blizzard shilling 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                        I don't think anyone here is looking to berate you; you were generally the calmer one, and you kept the drama flowing pretty well.

                                                                                        People here just want to observe the fights, especially over trivial things like ketchup on grilled cheese. That guy went crazy about it!

                                                                                        [–]boobie_squooze 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        Generally, yes. He got to me by the end of it.

                                                                                        Turns out, he was a decent fellow once he relaxed about the ketchup. We're totes besties, now! /s

                                                                                        [–]aphoenixrampant blizzard shilling 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        Surprise, surprise! His most recent comment is like a 12 year old insulting someone on XboxLive.

                                                                                        I wonder if he's gotten his kitchen set up in the last three months.

                                                                                        [–]Cheese-n-Opinion 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        Mate, we're with you; you're safe here. Dip your cheese toastie in raspberry coulis if you want to. It's your life and your sandwich.

                                                                                        [–]boobie_squooze 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Well, I'm not that fancy!

                                                                                        [–]iheartdewey 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Only on Reddit can someone get elitist about grilled cheese sandwiches.

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                                                                                          [–]AaronGoodsBrain 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                          Ketchup is quickly surpassing butter as reddit's most dramatic condiment--anyone ever tried it on popcorn?

                                                                                          [–]simbaforpresident 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          I don't know if it's just a Canadian thing, but there is ketchup flavouring to put on your popcorn.

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                                                                                            [–]idapitbwidiuatabip 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            Grilled cheese got them like

                                                                                            [–]Lor-Zod 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                            I always ate it with ketchup as a kid. Wasn't until I went to camp when I was 10 that I realized other people didn't do it.

                                                                                            People need to find different things to worry about

                                                                                            [–]56k_modem_noisesfrom the future to warn you about SKYNET 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                            Hear me now, cheese eaters of the world, I will cheesify your ears with my tale. Since I was a lad I've eaten many many cheeses and enjoyed them all in their own way. One day, I saw a small boy attempt to soil his pristine sandwich with the Devil's cum known as ketchup. I saved him from going down that dark red, salty path by roundhouse kicking him in the face before dog touched his lips.

                                                                                            TLDR; Ketchup = Devil's cum

                                                                                            [–]MushroomMountain123Eats dogs and whales 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            All the food related subs should just add a big flashing "taste is subjective" sign in their front page.

                                                                                            [–]zxcv1992 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            If having ketchup with toasties is wrong then I don't want to be right.

                                                                                            [–]flirtydodo 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                            the only time i have made it, i used mayo. on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 'this is wrong' and 10 'i should be tarred and feathered for my crimes against humanity" how much of a monster am i?

                                                                                            [–]Bytemite 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            Mayo is commonly used to make a grilled cheese, I think there's an exception clause for it.

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